Lots of MGTOW aren't very MGTOW

[trader1913Participant 1577]

Hitman wrote:

i mistook trader refering to blue pill guys as opposed to US here..
but the title of the thread was already begging for a reply..
i took the bait..
instead of the info.

I am sorry my friend; the title was something made out of emotion. It is something that i have seen develop in the mgtow community. I was warned by older MGTOW about men that would try to divert attention away from men onto other causes.

My first thought always comes to the well-being of men, achieving male-liberation and removing restrictions on men that are unneeded. I love stealthy’s posts (his username is now ‘he who says no to all things’) on ghosting. He gave his account of transitioning from blue-pill to red-pill and how this affected his interactions in the work-place. I think these posts provide practical solutions to what many mgtow can face working with blue-pill colleagues.

[GrumpyParticipant]

John Woods 13 wrote:

so I’m always in a bad mood and don’t want to drag y’all through my misery

Said no woman ever..

It is good to hear your doing good though.
Im just keeping an eye on my popcorn atm.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Hitman wrote:

(laughing like a lunatic..)

I’m laughing my ass off here too. I’m with you on that one. Let’s hope we never find out.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[HitmanParticipant]

trader1913 wrote:

I am sorry my friend;

i am as well.
peace .

[trader1913Participant 1577]

FrostByte wrote:

If your worried about what other MGTOW are doing with their MGTOW then isn’t that ‘latching on’?

I am not particularly worried. It is the weekend and the markets I trade in are closed. So, i made this thread for some discussion.

What other MGTOW do is rather inconsequential to me, but it is only human to consider the view points of others that are similar to you (going their own way).

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

trader1913 wrote:

Then I see many MGTOW, usually new, only being MGTOW because they have been inconvenienced in life. Some are angry that women rejected them, some have been devastated by divorce, many are just opportunists that feel alienated by feminism/women and so latch onto any group that will accept them. I suspect that many MGTOW are part of the latter and are one blowjob away from going back to the plantation.

This may very well be true.

Anonymous wrote:

I fundamentally agree with the title of this post. If a man has religion, a wife, a serious girlfriend, is in the military, or cheer’s on a politician who is not going to change much of what enslaves us, then yea, these people are not very MGTOW.

This might also be true.

BUT, Please remember that this website is not some exclusive private pure 100% MGTOW club.
As stated by the great KeyMaster himself, MGTOW SAVES LIVES! How could it save lives then if everyone on here were fully developed, fully self reliant, zen MGTOW?

The answer is, it would not. It is exactly for the OTHER guys, the “on the fence”, “purple pill”, “undecided”, “struggling” men that this site is most important. It’s their life that is being saved when and if we can convince them to take that red pill. From thre on, it’s up to them to go their own way.

So I say let them “latch on”. At worst, they’ll post some s~~~ that you can chose to ignore. At best, some of the knowledge and wisdom of our members here will rub off on them and one day it might save their life.

There, my f~~~ of the day was given.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Anonymous 24]

John Woods 13 wrote:

trader1913 wrote:

Then I see many MGTOW, usually new, only being MGTOW because they have been inconvenienced in life. Some are angry that women rejected them, some have been devastated by divorce, many are just opportunists that feel alienated by feminism/women and so latch onto any group that will accept them. I suspect that many MGTOW are part of the latter and are one blowjob away from going back to the plantation.

This may very well be true.

THX 1138 wrote:

I fundamentally agree with the title of this post. If a man has religion, a wife, a serious girlfriend, is in the military, or cheer’s on a politician who is not going to change much of what enslaves us, then yea, these people are not very MGTOW.

This might also be true.

BUT, Please remember that this website is not some exclusive private pure 100% MGTOW club.
As stated by the great KeyMaster himself, MGTOW SAVES LIVES! How could it save lives then if everyone on here were fully developed, fully self reliant, zen MGTOW?

The answer is, it would not. It is exactly for the OTHER guys, the “on the fence”, “purple pill”, “undecided”, “struggling” men that this site is most important. It’s their life that is being saved when and if we can convince them to take that red pill. From thre on, it’s up to them to go their own way.

So I say let them “latch on”. At worst, they’ll post some s~~~ that you can chose to ignore. At best, some of the knowledge and wisdom of our members here will rub off on them and one day it might save their life.

There, my f~~~ of the day was given.

Well said John, thanks for the balance.

[bladeParticipant]

See lady lurkers.
We are men . Sometimes we disagree . But we work s~~~ out . This disagreement will be left in this thread . We remain as brothers . As we hit other threads this is forgotton .

WE ARE MEN

WE ARE MGTOW

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[MrMeParticipant 651]

Go your own way, the way you want to.
Be the person you want to be, focus on self improvement.

But, be aware of the traps society set for us.

Im a stripper, who’s working on his masters degree.
Who am I to judge you?

[InRedPillWeTrustSpectator 978]

Listen lots to read regarding this post from you guys, however me being new and purple pill, I will say this…I firmly believe in MGTOW after finding this site, I may not be the best at adopting it, but the point is I found it, and I will use whatever I can to make it work for me. Also be entertained mildly, and adopt some of the great principles that all you guys put out there, no matter how old you are, or where you are on your road. To me it’s a lifetime learning curve, there will be old timers and there will be new comers, we all can learn and enjoy some things

Savage

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

trader1913 wrote:

The male mind desires to be enslaved on a subconscious level

lol nah, f~~~ that enslaved s~~~. We just want easy pussy. Don’t conflate the two.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Not a problem here for me.

You all need guitars, fleshlights, tents and dutch ovens.

Ha

I only care for two things to keep me happy. Computers and video games. And If some f~~~wit whats to tell me that those things are not productive, then blow me. Beats partying and f~~~ing dumb whores on the side, with a side order of stds. That and to watch the kill your family channel.

My money, my way, my path only.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[Anonymous 54]

You mean there rules? Oh s~~~.

Go your OWN way.

How the f~~~ are there any rules in that.

Im a Bass player. I have the biggest dick

[GrumpyParticipant]

Meh
I am what I am.
Apparently I am a walking contradiction, I am OK with that.
How others see me is how they see me, I can’t nor wont change their perceptions of me regardless of what I do. It is really none of my business what others “think” of me.
I am dumb enough to think I know s~~~, yet wise enough to understand I know very little, and learn from everything.
In the big picture of time, the universe, and everything I am nothing. In the smaller picture of my life I am everything, and every interaction shapes ME and directs where I go. I am ok with that.
Some rules are meant to be obeyed, most are meant to be challenged.

One day, when they bury my tired grumpy old ass, someone will stand up and pronounce that “He lived his life they way HE wanted as best HE could”, and hopefully they carve “quit breathing my air f~~~ers” on my tombstone.

Until then I’m just going to play my little piano and sing my little songs.
Thank you Frank Sinatra and Ray Stevens.

-Edit-
Oh and thank you Popeye

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Anonymous 18]

OP

The title of your thread is plenty to get you heat.

The whole ‘one blow job away’ back to plantation is over played on the realms far beyond this website.

And I would happy revert back to blue pill and call her my sweetheart while my b~~~~ are being licked. F~~~ mgtow for the 30 seconds my nuts go through some spastic motions in a beautiful woman’s mouth.

Besides if you need to measure your dick with the rest here about how hardcore of a mghow you are – brother you do not need this website.

Preach to the world, just not here.

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

coolthingy450 wrote:

Not a problem here for me.

He who says NO to all things… wrote:

You all need guitars, fleshlights, tents and dutch ovens.

Ha

I only care for two things to keep me happy. Computers and video games. And If some f~~~wit whats to tell me that those things are not productive, then blow me. Beats partying and f~~~ing dumb whores on the side, with a side order of stds. That and to watch the kill your family channel.

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My money, my way, my path only.

Ah man, that’s my favourite show! And I agree with you, if someone tells me that what I enjoy is dumb or that I should be doing other s~~~ instead I just ignore them.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Atton wrote:

The fatal flaw in men is they will almost never identify as men and advocate as men for men.

The idea of “men” as a socio-political identity group is EXACTLY the same as the idea of women, LGBTQi2, PoC, la Rasa, etc. as a socio-political identity group.

The strength of men is that we do not depend on our identity as men, we depend on ourselves as individuals.

This, my friends, is a battle between the supremacy of the individual and that of the collective. What ever way you may claim to be going, to hew too closely to a group identity, be it “men”, MGTOW or whatever, is to go the wrong way.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I’d say that this distinction is pointless. Those that come here because they are scorned and only want a group to latch on to will leave. For those of us that have stayed here for a very long time, we will stay. Eventually men come to this realization. For some men it takes a divorce, for others it takes one too many crazy girlfriends for a man to realize that women aren’t worth it. The reason they’ve abandoned women isn’t important, the fact that they’ve started living life for themselves is important.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Lots of MGTOW aren’t very MGTOW….. Then I see many MGTOW, usually new, only being MGTOW because they have been inconvenienced in life. Some are angry that women rejected them, some have been devastated by divorce, many are just opportunists that feel alienated by feminism/women and so latch onto any group that will accept them. I suspect that many MGTOW are part of the latter and are one blowjob away from going back to the plantation.

Anonymous wrote:

How the f~~~ are there any rules in that.

The OP is a good post, IMO, so let’s take a moment to consider those points.

When trying to define “what is MGTOW”, it easy if you keep what is EXCLUSIVE to MGTOW separate from what alot of people experience.

For example, remember the 4 phases of MGTOW??
Situational awareness…. Anger… acceptance… etc.

Well, EVERYONE goes through these phases, say, when a loved one or family member dies. The phases are not exclusive to MGTOW. Going through a dry spell is not exclusive to MGTOW. Being unattractive, bald, short, broke is not exclusive to MGTOW. Many MGTOW have money, are tall, are doctors, with hair, so all that stuff is a wash and doesn’t make a “MGHOW”.

What is exclusive to MGTOW?
Preserving one’s own sovereignty above all other things.

In order to do that successfully, some “rules” come into play.

• Absolutely no marriage contract
• Absolutely no cohabitation with a female – do not give her a key to your place
• Date if want – and sex if it’s free – but if it threatens your sovereignty, get the f~~~ out
• Don’t speak to, engage or debate with combative women or feminists
• Do not reward a (violent) bitch with your time or attention.
• Exes are exes for a reason.
• Guard your sperm like Fort Knox.
• One chance. One Chick. Per lifetime. No exceptions.
• No caving.
• “No” as the default go-to response
• No simping or white knighting
• Women are a secondary consideration at best
• Female approval has as much value as her disapproval. None.

etc.

ALL of those things are good rules to assist in preserving one’s own sovereignty above all other things: The MGTOW primary directive.

So even though it’s wrong to project and open with “rules” on to MGTOW, the exclusive and distinguishing thing about MGTOW – which separates MGTOW from everyone else – is for a man to preserve his own sovereignty above all other things. That makes certain “rules” (or guidelines) OK, and it’s not so dictatorial.

Clarity is required on this, because everyone ELSE who talks about “MGTOW” lists off a mile-long list of stupid s~~~ that is not exclusive to MGTOW. They talk about everything but the primary directive.

MGTOW can’t get laid. They’re all losers, short, broke, bald, rejected, fat, basement dwelling masturbators…. Jesus Christ that’s the Woman’s March!! MGTOW don’t even hold parades or public events.

The primary directive of MGTOW: preserving one’s own sovereignty above all other things. Whatever rules you need to make that happen. And what makes you NOT-a-MGTOW is any choice you make that comes in the way of that.

• F~~~ing without a condom.
• Having a live-in girlfriend.
• Dropping what you’re doing to run across the street to ask a pretty girl out.

… and on….

In order to know if he’s “MGHOW”, any man can just ask himself if he is consciously making certain that his sovereignty, choices, decisions, successes and failures are architected and governed by him as much as possible. He’ll know the answer to that.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 54]

I dont like rules.This just happen to be were Im at in life.

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