Lots of MGTOW aren't very MGTOW

[SubtilitasParticipant 101]

Keymaster wrote:

I already said it above ^^^ on this page.

“Sharing your life with your beloved wife” is the very anti-thesis of MGTOW. . In a marriage (or relationship) the entire point is to not GYOW.

Oh, I see 😉 Ah, I knew, just when I wrote this, that I should have added or specified the following:

Of course when writing this, I had all the men in mind who find themselves in an (abusive) marriage and, due to that, have found a mindset equal or similar to the one of many men going their own way. It is clear for all that such a man, who seeks to regain his sovereignty, will, as I have mentioned, hopefully act accordingly and release himself from marriage. And if they do not do so, there certainly is a number of reasons present not to release himself (It ain’t always easy, nah?). So, I was talking more about the will and the mindset rather than the situation a man is in and which he wants to exit if he “gets aware of himself”, if that makes sense.

So even a man who so far fulfills the anti-thesis of a MGHOW in his life may actually have found the ideas and guides provided on this website to be fitting and natural to him, however, it may not be possible for him to let this anti-thesis, as you say, behind him. I would hate to call these men Blue Pillers.

[Anonymous 54]

If someone has never been married, there is no way they can comprehend what is like to get yourself unmarried. It is a hell I would not wish on anyone.Those who have been through it know what Im talking about.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Interesting topic.

We are a diverse group, in terms of age, experience, goals etc.
We all learn differently.

Of course we will all have varying degrees of knowledge and adherence to MGTOW.

We remain here because MGTOW adds value to our lives. Otherwise we would be gone.

I’m glad we have such diversity of talent and experience. We can all learn something of value.
You guys are very insightful and this is a great place to learn.

[Anonymous 54]

Here Here!!!

[sequoiaParticipant 467]

Well I’m calling you out trader,I think that you are full of s~~~
I tested you Friday night with some trading strategy without response,I do not think that you know anything about trading. And if you think you can take any money off the likes of us you are well mistaken.

Was cut and carried for a dozen years so therefore, twelve years a slave

[Repulsive RalfParticipant 356]

I wouldn’t class myself as voluntary MGTOW, I had it thrust upon me.
Mother gave me away at 18 months, took me back at 3 for a couple of years then put me in Children’s homes. After that I would be kicked in the stomach by her new husband.
Consequently I didn’t learn how to interact with women, and when I did I would run a mile after a couple of weeks as I have Reactive Attachment Disorder.
I never felt part of the human race so always went my own way.
The difference is, I always feel bad about it, miserable that I didn’t have the loving wife and kids I thought was a human right and necessity for happiness.
You guys have helped me see my life can be something to be proud of rather than ashamed of so even if I am not a high ranking MGTOW, I am grateful to you guys for making me feel better about my lot in life.

[sequoiaParticipant 467]

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

I didn’t have the loving wife and kids I thought was a human right and necessity for happiness.
You guys have helped me see my life can be something to be proud of rather than ashamed of so even if I am not a high ranking MGTOW, I am grateful to you guys for making me feel better about my lot in life.

I am so glad that you found us and we could help you, then you become the next generation to pass that message on,and in return we feel better about our lot in life.

Was cut and carried for a dozen years so therefore, twelve years a slave

[sequoiaParticipant 467]

The OP could be the hanging man, and we could profit on the spring and hammer, candlestick charts of course!

Was cut and carried for a dozen years so therefore, twelve years a slave

[,Participant 1301]

Keymaster wrote:

What is exclusive to MGTOW?
Preserving one’s own sovereignty above all other things.

Aye! Hear Hear!

Keymaster wrote:

“sharing your life with your beloved wife” is the very anti-thesis of MGTOW.

meh, perhaps. its a western compromise when ‘really good’ or ‘perfect’, the ends justify the means.
It’s just so rare. Like the Unicorn or Sasquatch finding and taming.

Everyone, especially governments fear the independent and joyful man.
Men despise you.
Women want what you exude.
Governments want it all.
> Sovereignty allows for MGTOW ways.

I think that you could be Sovereign and be a Sheik with wives a plenty but hard for me to conceive of being MGTOW-ish without being Sovereign over yourself. But I don’t see these two concepts as mutually inclusive.

I consider me as MGTOW in training/learning. I have the Sovereignty down other than paying some thousands of dollars. Meh: and worth it.

HS sweethearts> 9 yrs dating> 28 yr marriage, I thought it was permanent.
Nah, like I said, its really rare.
Now: Free, Independent, Sovereign, Unc~~~ed, I’m not 100% MGTOW by someone’s thinking, but I Don’t Give A Flying F~~~ how I look to them.
Virgin>2017

with joy/without hate

[,Participant 1301]

trader1913 wrote:

Please be wary of people claiming that they have the ‘solution’ to men’s problems. The male mind desires to be enslaved on a subconscious level and so many MGTOW convince themselves that something else other than themselves will solve their problems. The reality is that the only one that can solve your problems is YOU.

The OP referred to The male mind desires to be enslaved on a subconscious level and so many MGTOW convince themselves that something else other than themselves will solve their problems…. that may be the femnazi brainwashing but I do not concur with that implied social contract at all.
That part of the statement is very dangerous to accept without calling it out even though he QUALIFIED it with words that followed.

I do not respect or agree with that part-statement. No matter the qualification that follows.

with joy/without hate

[Anonymous 54]

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

I wouldn’t class myself as voluntary MGTOW, I had it thrust upon me.
Mother gave me away at 18 months, took me back at 3 for a couple of years then put me in Children’s homes. After that I would be kicked in the stomach by her new husband.
Consequently I didn’t learn how to interact with women, and when I did I would run a mile after a couple of weeks as I have Reactive Attachment Disorder.
I never felt part of the human race so always went my own way.
The difference is, I always feel bad about it, miserable that I didn’t have the loving wife and kids I thought was a human right and necessity for happiness.
You guys have helped me see my life can be something to be proud of rather than ashamed of so even if I am not a high ranking MGTOW, I am grateful to you guys for making me feel better about my lot in life.

Take Pride in your self! We are all Brothers here equal.

[sequoiaParticipant 467]

OP would you buy on a three river bottom, or three black crows?
Well would you punk,go on make my day!

Was cut and carried for a dozen years so therefore, twelve years a slave

[bladeParticipant]

Thank you km . I do what i do for the sake of my children and father. Just having a moment . I love my community really . I am aware i am having a moment and will snap out of it .

Big thank you to all you guy’s . There is no place that helps like this anywhere. Wether we agree or disagree on a thread it’s good how it remains in that thread .
I don’t agree with the op but like this because it shows diversity of opinion and freedom of thought .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[~BSParticipant 3266]

every journey begins with a first step or steps. obviously, some people aren’t going to be as far along as others, especially given the sheer number of men that are waking up every day. Lets have some compassion for our brothers whos eyes may have just been opened, leaving them still floundering about uncertainly, and provide guidance as they travel down the mgtow path.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[UnbelievableyetnotParticipant 512]

Some are angry that women rejected them, some have been devastated by divorce, many are just opportunists that feel alienated by feminism/women and so latch onto any group that will accept them. I suspect that many MGTOW are part of the latter and are one blowjob away from going back to the plantation.

MGTOW is about going your own way, yet countless MGTOW are obsessed with going someone else’s way. They want to go Trump’s way, the Tradcon way, the ‘real equality’ way. It is as if they have not understood the teachings of MGTOW at all; that most ways are designed to take advantage of men so you must go your own way.

Please be wary of people claiming that they have the ‘solution’ to men’s problems. The male mind desires to be enslaved on a subconscious level and so many MGTOW convince themselves that something else other than themselves will solve their problems. The reality is that the only one that can solve your problems is YOU.

The teachings of MGTOW!

[sequoiaParticipant 467]

~BS wrote:

every journey begins with a first step

And so does every confidence trickster, if I find that you are trying to con joller I will rip your head off!
Sorry Keymaster but I do not trust this guy.

Was cut and carried for a dozen years so therefore, twelve years a slave

[sequoiaParticipant 467]

Keymaster ask him about an inverted three Buddha bottom, if he says that is sweet, move quickly!

Was cut and carried for a dozen years so therefore, twelve years a slave

[Anonymous 24]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Quit telling me what to do f~~.

The ultimate irony of this thread is that this got 32 likes.

To recap, OP says that some men here are not very MGTOW because they live their lives in a manner in which they have given up their sovereignty to a degree that they let others tell them what to do, people get upset having to face this fact, and then this comment gets 32 likes.

Lots of autism out there boys, lots of autism. Good luck with that.

[bladeParticipant]

Lots of us have kids so our mgtow journey is different .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

You all need guitars, fleshlights, tents and dutch ovens.

Ha

I have the first two. 😀

Do you mean the cooking implement or putting a chick’s head under the covers before you blow ass? 😀

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

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