Is MGTOW really the only option left?

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

Eric Lauder wrote:

I apologize for the initial distrust.

After seeing this I now offer you my apologies. I am glad we can both “man up” the way real men do.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

hadenough1969 wrote:

Hello All,

I have been checking this thread all day and the responses have kept me going. I am stronger now than I was last night when I first posted. I have been listening to a lot of sandman videos while driving today. I have been reading other threads and contemplating all the words of wisdom on this thread.

I feel like I have had the “link” ripped out of my head. The shock of what the real world is has been very extreme. Nevertheless, I have hope now that it will get better, the pain will lesson and eventually I will be able to deal with all of this. I have hundreds of miles to go and so many things to still sort out…but I am not dead yet. I can still put 1 foot in front of the other. I will keep moving forward, albeit at a very slow pace, but I will not give up. Whatever time I have left on the planet, I must find a way to redeem the wasted years and make the remaining ones the very best they can be.

Again, thank you my brothers.

You are going through an emotionally tough time, my brother, and will find a lot of the support you need here in this forum. These men, including myself, have gone through tough times and still came through it and are willing to help others as much as we can. What you will find here you won’t find on women’s forums. The help, support, and yes, the love men can have for one another as brothers. I am poorly equipped to give much help that is useful and wished I could do more but pretty much everything has been covered. I wish you success in your divorce. Remember, you have almost 18,000 men on your side.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Maraudrz1 wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

I apologize for the initial distrust.

After seeing this I now offer you my apologies. I am glad we can both “man up” the way real men do.

No problem, brother.
Well, the only problem is that at such point we should drink beer, but we cannot since we’re online! 😀

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

hadenough1969 wrote:

Hello All,

I have been checking this thread all day and the responses have kept me going. I am stronger now than I was last night when I first posted. I have been listening to a lot of sandman videos while driving today. I have been reading other threads and contemplating all the words of wisdom on this thread.

I feel like I have had the “link” ripped out of my head. The shock of what the real world is has been very extreme. Nevertheless, I have hope now that it will get better, the pain will lesson and eventually I will be able to deal with all of this. I have hundreds of miles to go and so many things to still sort out…but I am not dead yet. I can still put 1 foot in front of the other. I will keep moving forward, albeit at a very slow pace, but I will not give up. Whatever time I have left on the planet, I must find a way to redeem the wasted years and make the remaining ones the very best they can be.

Again, thank you my brothers.

Be strong, and within an year you’ll laugh about that.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

Eric Lauder wrote:

Maraudrz1 wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

I apologize for the initial distrust.

After seeing this I now offer you my apologies. I am glad we can both “man up” the way real men do.

No problem, brother.
Well, the only problem is that at such point we should drink beer, but we cannot since we’re online!

I just love the way men can settle their differences.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

Well guys, several weeks and a lot of study later, I can answer my own question.

MGTOW is the only option left.

Thanks for all the support and encouragement.

[nick123Participant 137]

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I am halfway through my second divorce from a covert narc. Getting ready to lose everything again for the second time. 2/3rs of my life now gone, wasted by these 2 evil women. You would think it would be easy, cut and dried walk away from all women forever and never look back.

Yet day and night I am still wrestling, trying to come to terms with all the lies I have been fed for over 4 decades. Trying to accept that the women who were my grandma’s and what I saw between them and my grandfathers no longer exists on this planet. Trying to beat it into my brain that there is no “someone special” out there, if only I could just find them. Trying to stop thinking that if I would have made better choices, if I had taken more time, if I had been stronger, then I would have found a better person. Trying to come to terms that there are no good women left on this planet, no matter where you go or how hard you search.

I am struggling to believe it impossible for a woman to love a man for who he is. They can love what he does, love how he makes her feel at times, but truly can never love a man the way a man can love a woman. If this is true, then what I saw lived before me as a child wasn’t love, but something else. It looked like love to me, but apparently it was not?

I am telling you guys, it is REALLY HARD to come to terms with all of this. It is keeping me up days and nights, distracting me from work, pretty much spinning my head in circles all the time. How long does it take to get through this? How do you finally come to terms with it? How do you get to the place were you no longer see, care or notice there are any women on this planet?

How do you reconcile, “It is not good for man to be alone” with “It is too dangerous to be involved with women?” How do you become a non-feeling hardened robot that finally just stops giving a f~~~ about any of them? How do you start seeing them as just a piece of meat to be used and then discarded?

How do I get there guys, and how long will this mental back and forth purgatory last?

Thanks

I feel your pain as i too was involved with a narc. Join this forum….shrink4men, it will help you a lot s it did me. Good luck.

[TwistParticipant]

Nick,

I don’t have any answers for you. But I can assure you that you are not alone in your thoughts. Only one divorce for me, but the thoughts and feelings are the same.

When you realize the entire belief system you were indoctrinated in was false, it is a very bitter pill.

I did not embrace MGTOW because I wanted to. I had to.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

OP, I’ll answer as clearly as possible from the lens I view the world through. I am still married to the only woman that I’ve ever said that I loved. I had a near miss during my Sophomore year of High School, and I got gut hooked at a different school two years later.

24 years after the nuptials I laid down the law and said in no uncertain terms that I was done with being disrespected. If I leave her World ends, as does the current way of life of my youngest child. Any hesitation on my part is based on concern for the kid at this point.

I included so much back story because for me that is the reason I’m here. I would NEVER bother with another woman again. It’s not a matter of MGTOW or not. It’s a matter of who is going to be the most important person in your life.

You have to make your own decision based upon two facts.

1 – Any time that you put a woman above your own interests she will gladly take advantage of the benefit that you give her.

2 – You will never be more important to any woman than they are to themselves.

Make your decisions from this point based on those facts.

I have spent a quarter century taking care of a person that sometimes doesn’t seem concerned about my happiness. The only time that I become number one is when her lifestyle is threatened. It seems pretty opportunistic, and after over half of my lifetime I can vouch that she’s one of the better one’s.

MGTOW isn’t a path of loss or denial, it is a path that guarantees you maximum realization of YOUR desires for yourself.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[Anonymous 14]

hadenough1969 wrote:

How do you become a non-feeling hardened robot that finally just stops giving a f~~~ about any of them?

We aren’t robots – we are freemen able to do whatever and whenever the f*ck we want.

You obviously haven’t suffered enough – get married again and get back to us.

[nick123Participant 137]

Twist wrote:

Nick,

I don’t have any answers for you. But I can assure you that you are not alone in your thoughts. Only one divorce for me, but the thoughts and feelings are the same.

When you realize the entire belief system you were indoctrinated in was false, it is a very bitter pill.

I did not embrace MGTOW because I wanted to. I had to.

Sorry but i think you reqad my post where i had copied and pasted the op post in order to answer him, which i did at the end.
i suggested he join up shrink4men where a lot of light can be shed on his situation which will help him in understanding what this narc woman did to him. it helped me!

[SimpleLifeParticipant 439]

Good advice here. I can’t really add much other than to say as a fellow divorced man I can empathize with your current state. It’s difficult to fully let go of the illusion of love.

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

Well, it is starting to get easier as the attorney bills and demands pile up. This Bitch is going to drive me into the ground just like the first one and ruin me, my family and my entire life.

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