Inherently Sick

[Anonymous 1]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

So the Gods are fallible then?

In my opinion, Yes. Sometimes we are overcome by Passions, Anger (Red Pill Rage) and we do something that we later on regret. We may know what we are doing is wrong at the time and still do it anyways.

I believe this was the purpose of Mythology in the olden days. It teaches us that life is a struggle. We struggle for Wisdom and Virtue, but we also fail. The important thing is that we continue struggling for what we know is right.

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Anonymous wrote:

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

So do I, my people are Pagans(now Lutherans). This is what Constantine wanted when he composed what we now know as the bible. One religion, one language, one mind set. Easier to control the Empire. Similar to what the new order is trying now. No borders, one international language, no currency(microchips), and no genders.

Yes, I have noticed that too. The agenda has never changed. One World, One God, One Gender, One Race, One Currency etc.

Whether the Bible’s true or not, this was mentioned why the angels came down and confounded the languages. The people were building the Tower of Babel in order to reach Heaven, and obtain knowledge.

[Anonymous 54]

They come from within your own mind.

Do not blame Gods.

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5066]

Anonymous wrote:

They come from within your own mind.

Do not blame Gods.

But we were synthesised by the Gods no? If so, they therefore have to take some responsibility for the mess we have created in this dimension.

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Anonymous wrote:

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

So the Gods are fallible then?

In my opinion, Yes. Sometimes we are overcome by Passions, Anger (Red Pill Rage) and we do something that we later on regret. We may know what we are doing is wrong at the time and still do it anyways.

I believe this was the purpose of Mythology in the olden days. It teaches us that life is a struggle. We struggle for Wisdom and Virtue, but we also fail. The important thing is that we continue struggling for what we know is right.

Do you believe in other dimensions? This one being the most testing and evil of all.

[Branched offParticipant 10927]

Anonymous wrote:

They come from within your own mind.

Do not blame Gods.

I know what you are saying but the forces of nature are bigger than you. I gave up on Jesus and his mates 21 years ago when I took the local vicar climbing on a sea cliff and a storm came in. All the prayers and hymns and good intentions that man taught of could not save one ant on that cliff that day.

Aside from physical forces of nature there are other natural drives. Much that your ancestors felt and thought and lost and won has shaped who you are. You can’t utterly vanquish these forces and they are bigger than your mind alone. Sometimes you can control them, sometimes not. The gods are bigger than you but not omnipotent always.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Anonymous 1]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

I agree, you are taking a more Gnostic approach(if you want to label). We are all God’s, there is no right or wrong, only decisions made. Religion is a man-made concept, there is over 30,000 denominations of Christianity for example. I am more trying to the crux of why people do such evil things, it can’t be just freewill, these traits needed to do atrocious things, where have they come from?

Colin, I believe that Evil is indeed a choice of Freewill. Even the hypothetical situation where some one was Possessed by a Demon or Jinn that caused them to do Evil. They still made a choice to invite that Demon into themselves. It still comes down to Freewill, even with the old “Devil Made Me Do It” argument.

[Anonymous 1]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Do you believe in other dimensions? This one being the most testing and evil of all.

The Ancient Norse called this Middle-Earth (Midgard) for a reason.

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The old gods are in their root the personification of the forces of nature. They therefore make a good deal more sense than the escatological monotheist’s god who invents imperfect people to test them while being at the same time omniscient and therefore knowing who will pass and fail the tests. That guy must be really bored by now.

The forces of nature gave us our “good” and “evil” tendencies. We are creatures like other creatures. We have our own challenges. Dogs are better than us at some things and yet they will steal your food if you leave it on the floor.

These traits are not sinful of themselves. Do not listen to the mind controllers who want you to hate your nature. They are neutral and what you make of them is what counts. Jealousy is good for us when we do not let it conquer us. -why invest in a wife if you are going to be happy letting chad impregnate her? It is right you hate chad if he does this. It is also right you make sure she does not get your money in the divorce -guard it jealously. You had better be angry with chad. Killing him might make sense unless you live in the world today where you will be caught and punished for what is actually his doing. A wise man understands the gods, understands himself and can maximise the successful use of his innate tendancies.

Try the Nordic web or weird (Wyrd if you like strange -not weird!- spelling as many pagans seem to for some odd reason)if you want to understand why you are who you are and why stuff happens, maybe even what may happen though that is no certainty because it is not yet woven unlike the monotheistic “It is written” . Weird is a old concept and very powerful. You won’t get your head around it easily at first. It is a very sophisticated concept dressed up in an old myth about women who spin next to a well next to a big tree.

Do not think the ancients were dumb. Their language of philosophical explanation was just different and less evolved. There is free will, some things are inevitable and there is always the twist of fate bringing back the pattern sometimes to what it must be regardless of your best or worst efforts. Its harder to grasp than monotheistic fate -“god decreed it, so it will be”.

You are not inherently sick my friend. You are inherently wired to compete for evolution. You are not the perfect model, but you are wired to try to improve.

Good post. You are talking more about survival of the fittest, do what you need to do to survive. I am talking extreme cases such as genocide, child killers, necrophilia etc These are borne out of survival instincts, borne out of control, spite, frustration, power, and above all evil. Theses aforementioned acts can be labelled as absolute evil, but as mentioned, we as a species can’t be absolutely evil, nor good.

[Anonymous 54]

My thoughts are ALLWAYS stonger than any outside force.

Demons, or what have you.

We all own what our Brain creates.

And if you are weaker than that,

I dont need to know you.

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5066]

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Old Heyoka wrote:

They come from within your own mind.

Do not blame Gods.

I know what you are saying but the forces of nature are bigger than you. I gave up on Jesus and his mates 21 years ago when I took the local vicar climbing on a sea cliff and a storm came in. All the prayers and hymns and good intentions that man taught of could not save one ant on that cliff that day.

Aside from physical forces of nature there are other natural drives. Much that your ancestors felt and thought and lost and won has shaped who you are. You can’t fight these forces and they are bigger than your mind alone. Sometimes you can control them, sometimes not. The gods are bigger than you but not omnipotent always.

Have you read the Bible and any of the Gnostic scriptures?

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Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

I am talking extreme cases such as genocide, child killers, necrophilia etc These are borne out of survival instincts, borne out of control, spite, frustration, power, and above all evil. Theses aforementioned acts can be labelled as absolute evil, but as mentioned, we as a species can’t be absolutely evil, nor good.

Inner nature, personal choices and fate have united to cause these people to mess up mightily.

Hitler is the classic example. Had an obsessive narcissistic personality, had an abusive father, lived in his own head but learn to get into others, happened to come to just the right place at the right time to lead a powerful political movement that cost his country and people more than it gave them and set back the science of differences in people by 100 years.

He wasn’t absolutely evil. In another time and place he might even have been almost normal. What has happened to you and to those around you makes a big difference. Hitler never chose to let a demon in. He just made some choices that seemed good at the time to the guy he was in the position he was. One led to another.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Branched offParticipant 10927]

I have read almost all of the bible many, many times. I sat on my mother’s bed every morning till I was 16 reading the bible. The gnostics never grabbed me though.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

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Anonymous wrote:

My thoughts are ALLWAYS stonger than any outside force.

Demons, or what have you.

We all own what our Brain creates.

And if you are weaker than that,

I dont need to know you.

Define weak. We are too complex to be 100% strong/weak, happy/sad etc all the time. Our Neurotransmitters, hormones etc are forever trying to achieve homeostasis. There is a coward and a lion in all of us. There is no absolutes.

[Anonymous 1]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Good post. You are talking more about survival of the fittest, do what you need to do to survive. I am talking extreme cases such as genocide, child killers, necrophilia etc These are borne out of survival instincts, borne out of control, spite, frustration, power, and above all evil. Theses aforementioned acts can be labelled as absolute evil, but as mentioned, we as a species can’t be absolutely evil, nor good.

There has been many studies on what drives these people. The Serial Killer phenomena. These people are Psychopathic. They are addicted to the “Rush” that they experience when raping and murdering children.

The Jimmy Saville types.

If you look into the most heinous Evil crimes in any time period you will find a smirking Psychopath is usually the cause of it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

I agree, you are taking a more Gnostic approach(if you want to label). We are all God’s, there is no right or wrong, only decisions made. Religion is a man-made concept, there is over 30,000 denominations of Christianity for example. I am more trying to the crux of why people do such evil things, it can’t be just freewill, these traits needed to do atrocious things, where have they come from?

Colin, I believe that Evil is indeed a choice of Freewill. Even the hypothetical situation where some one was Possessed by a Demon or Jinn that caused them to do Evil. They still made a choice to invite that Demon into themselves. It still comes down to Freewill, even with the old “Devil Made Me Do It” argument.

Then “evil” is like any other tract. Subjective. What is deemed evil to some, may be justified in another.

[Anonymous 1]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Then “evil” is like any other tract. Subjective. What is deemed evil to some, may be justified in another.

No, I believe Jimmy Saville knew what he was doing was Evil. That’s what got him off. He knew he was committing evil and getting away with it. It’s a big “Rush” to these people. They are addicted to Evil.

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Branched off wrote:

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

I am talking extreme cases such as genocide, child killers, necrophilia etc These are borne out of survival instincts, borne out of control, spite, frustration, power, and above all evil. Theses aforementioned acts can be labelled as absolute evil, but as mentioned, we as a species can’t be absolutely evil, nor good.

Inner nature, personal choices and fate have united to cause these people to mess up mightily.

Hitler is the classic example. Had an obsessive narcissistic personality, had an abusive father, lived in his own head but learn to get into others, happened to come to just the right place at the right time to lead a powerful political movement that cost his country and people more than it gave them and set back the science of differences in people by 100 years.

He wasn’t absolutely evil. In another time and place he might even have been almost normal. What has happened to you and to those around you makes a big difference. Hitler never chose to let a demon in. He just made some choices that seemed good at the time to the guy he was in the position he was. One led to another.

Hitler though believed he was doing a good deed, ridding the world of the sinful Jews in particular. Goes back to my point about subjectivity.
I am trying to read Mein Kampf at the moment, very articulate man, hard reading.

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Anonymous wrote:

There has been many studies on what drives these people. The Serial Killer phenomena. These people are Psychopathic. They are addicted to the “Rush” that they experience when raping and murdering children.

True. That rush of reward chemicals has got misdirected in these also slightly abnormal people. The rush is there for good evolutionary reasons. Preserve you life, mate save your child, gain resources should all get you a big rush of the good stuff.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Branched offParticipant 10927]

Colin Combover in a Coma wrote:

Goes back to my point about subjectivity

The world we know is only our brain’s interpretation of its sensors’ information and what it has learned from life.

This also explains some clever people being libtards. -its here their experience and what they learned took them.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

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