Indian parents pressuring me to marry, need advice…

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  • #499689
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    Jan Sobieski
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    My understanding is that is to protect the females from men who promise marriage just to get sex.

    If I had a dollar for every time I was thought to be gay…

    Don’t get married.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

    #499695
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    Puffin Stuff
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    You have an overbearing family who are trying to manipulate you and use you for their own benefit. They are not looking out for your best interest.

    You need to leave ASAP and not talk to your family for at least two years to gain your independence and let them know that your attention on them is dependent on them treating you as a human being.

    It’s a hard pill to swallow and I have read a lot about the Indian culture so have heard it is hard for a male to leave the family. That the man is supposed to marry and take care of their parents.

    The old rules don’t apply anymore. Ask the young women, they know. The feminists have been pushing their wares world wide for decades.

    It’s time for men to help each other.

    Learn to be independent that is the path to freedom.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

    #499697
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    NerdTunneler
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    LOL..What happens if you tell them you are gay? or perhaps, you can convince your parents and sister to part with a certain amount of money every month to support “your wife” because you dont have enough to live by…

    I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

    #499698
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    Anonymous
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    My understanding is that is to protect the females from men who promise marriage just to get sex.

    If I had a dollar for every time I was thought to be gay…

    Don’t get married.

    What you’ve identified has always irritated me. All we hear from the feminists is that women are equal to men and can do every thing that a man can do, but then women need protecting in the form of laws that favor them and customs that help prevent them from “being taken advantage of.”

    Also implicit in what you’ve written is the marginalization of the male sex drive. Men who want to get laid are demonized and called names like “creep.” Women who want to get laid are strong and independent. Plus notice how much that marriage thing is all about long term benefit to the woman and behavior modification for men?

    Sorry but that’s just bad for you in every way possible. Plus India has government funded abortion. Your potential wife could abort a kid without your permission, knowledge, or endorsement. That is absurd.

    #499705
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    Stealth
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    Don’t marry under pressure from other people.
    Trust me, I did it.
    When it backfires years down the road, the disaster created will be your lot to clean up. You will be robbed of several years of your working existence and will look back at your youth as one big crater. You’ll wake up wondering who you are, and *might* recover by the time you’re in your forties or fifties.

    Your internal voice is alarmed enough to post here. Listen to that. That is the voice of truth. Tune out everything else. Completely ignore it.

    If you can’t ignore it or it becomes a problem, Get away and travel the world if you need to. No matter if you lived out of five-star hotels, It will be less expensive, and good for you. You’ll gain even greater strength and self-respect, and you’ll learn so much about yourself and the world that you’ll be in a position to create the life you really want to have.

    Don’t become another Indian guy who on his death bed looks back wondering why he threw his life away to please his parents. It really is this critical.

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

    #499711
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    OldBill
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    The only power your parents have is the power you allow them to have.

    If need be move out.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #499721
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    Anonymous
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    She’s married right now and quite frankly makes her husband her slave.

    That is a worst case scenario. Absolutely, DO NOT Marry Her! No Hymen, No Diamond! Demand a better deal. You are only 23, you deserve to marry a Virgin woman (preferably 16 – 20 years of age). If they are insistent and meet your demands then think about compromising. What is the worst they can do to you? Kick you out of the house? Immediately, start planning financial independence strategy, you need to have a contingency plan worked out for your worst case scenario.

    #499727
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    Faust For Science
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    Just to clear up, I don’t live in India, I was born in the UK. Sorry, I should of mentioned that earlier. But I’m still ethnically Indian (grandparents are from there), family is incredibly blue pill, and Indian chicks were never attractive to me in the the first place.

    Good. While there is s~~~ going on in London. From what I understand the rest of that nation is mostly okay.

    Okay. Being in the UK, your situation is much better. I take it you parents want you to marry an Indian girl? If so point this out and ask if they are open for you to have to an interracial relationship. If so, then you can use this as a way to stall, by saying ‘I have to see who is out there’, until you can be financially independent.

    #499731
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    Prefer Peace to Piece
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    It is not your parent’s life.
    It is your life.
    Don’t ruin your life by trying to make someone else happy. Make yourself happy.

    You can be respectful when you talk to your parents. But again, it is your life. Make the best of it.

    #499732
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    Anonymous
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    Another good stall: demand an 18 year old u.s. virgin.

    #499735
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    Singularity
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    My dear friend. Having more than three times your age in life, it is important to note, that your happiness is what is paramount. It is your life, not your parent’s life. You do with it what you want to do. Stand up for your rights, take your shoes off and feel the ground beneath your feet. Their ideology is based on an extremely out of date ancient traditional system that will in the end enslave you for the rest of your life if you so decide to let it be that way.
    I left home at 21. Got a job, continued school, toured the world, enjoyed life to the fullest on my terms not someone else’s terms.
    In the beginning, it will be very emotionally hard. That’s how it is. It’s part of being a man and becoming independent. It is a right of passage.
    My advice to you is to get your own apartment, perhaps with a good friend to share the costs. Plan your life’s goals. Become self sufficient.

    In the beginning your parents will be very angry with you. That’s how it is. My parents were the same way, but time has a way of healing all wounds.

    The Internet is a very powerful tool. You can look up on how to find independence as a young adult. The key is to have a goal and a plan B to use if needed. Develop a support group that shares your interests.

    Good luck…

    #499745
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    Anonymous
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    She’s married right now and quite frankly makes her husband her slave.

    That is a worst case scenario. Absolutely, DO NOT Marry Her! No Hymen, No Diamond! Demand a better deal. You are only 23, you deserve to marry a Virgin woman (preferably 16 – 20 years of age). If they are insistent and meet your demands then think about compromising. What is the worst they can do to you? Kick you out of the house? Immediately, start planning financial independence strategy, you need to have a contingency plan worked out for your worst case scenario.

    Yeah I suggested 16 year old virgin and property. And it has to be a fit, attractive virgin.

    This deal with social pressure only works if men are setup with something good and society stands behind it. It doesn’t work when men are pressured into garbage goods and take all the liability, and it’s all on the woman’s whim.

    Society has to decide.

    Want to be able to pressure men into marriage? Fine, then girls have to be pressured to be virgins and get married at 16, and to be fit, and to have sex with their husbands daily as a routine. There can’t be no fault divorce, no charges of domestic violence or rape. Society has to step back and decide since men are pressure to marry, because it’s a benefit to women, that society can’t then pretend men aren’t superior to women, and as such a husband has full rights and authority over his wife, and nobody has a right to interfere with that, barring very extreme and rare cases.

    If society can’t agree to that, and we as MGTOW do not tell society to do this, then men must have the freedom and choice to NOT interact with women and NOT get married.

    Truthfully, not having to get married is the best possible course for men. Marriage always sucked, was always a burden. It’s idiotic for society and women to pretend it’s good for men while having to pressure men into it. Only women can be stupid enough to give up what they had out of greed. They are the farmer that killed the golden goose. Once the goose is dead, it’s not coming back. No more marriage for women. It’ll take 50 some odd years of them begging men and treating men well to get that old deal back.

    #499761
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    Anonymous
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    Oden, listen up, marriage is temporary, a broken family and divorce rape is FOREVER!

    The contract of marriage is so molested and convoluted you may as well be living with a f~~~ing gun to your head!

    At no time time in these times of iniquity should rational man get married!

    The rules have all been changed making marriage nothing but a slaughterhouse for men!

    It’s your blood, spill it any way you like!

    #499763
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    Anonymous
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    Truthfully, not having to get married is the best possible course for men. Marriage always sucked, was always a burden. It’s idiotic for society and women to pretend it’s good for men while having to pressure men into it. Only women can be stupid enough to give up what they had out of greed. They are the farmer that killed the golden goose. Once the goose is dead, it’s not coming back. No more marriage for women. It’ll take 50 some odd years of them begging men and treating men well to get that old deal back.

    That’s right! Odin listen to Phoenix. You deserve a young healthy Virgin Bride and some valuable property or assets from the Bride’s Father. This is what they OWE you for the risk of Marriage. A just compensation for your risks. Of course, not marrying at all is better for you in these troubled times.

    #499765
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    Singularity
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    I’m going to disagree. Demand nothing! Material objects have no value in comparison to your liberty, choice of life direction, your emotional stability of being forced into a relationship with a women you do not love.

    If you accept to trade in your entire life over property, remember that you participated in your own demise.

    #499776
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    BrainPilot
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    Odin,
    As a mgtow who once had to threaten to join the military, leave the country and change my name in order to get my family to back down from some similarly unreasonable demands, I can share with you what I learned from that experience. At the time, I was backed against a wall and I was anxious and uncertain about how it would end. But when I said I would leave, join the military and change my name, I meant it. It may not be necessary to do the drastic things to hold onto control of your own life. But you must be willing to do the things you have to do to get them off your back, otherwise it doesn’t work. It’s hard to explain how they know, but when you say it and you mean it, they know. It is their ability to know that you mean it that causes them to back down.

    I believe that whatever you have to do (however hard, lonely, frightening or unpleasant) to live your own life, it’s still the better option than to have your life dictated to you by someone else who does not have to live it. If you cave in and do what’s being dictated to you, it will make everyone around you happy EXCEPT YOU. You know this already, but it’s hard to accept because these misguided people are supposed to care about you. And they probably do care about you on some level, but they care about what they want just a little bit more. They may even think they know better than you do how you life should be run, but they don’t. They can’t.

    If you decide to cave in and comply with what’s being dictated to you now, it will not end there. With that action, you will have shown them that whatever else they care about is more important than you are. Or, that they know better than you do. You will have sent them that message. You will have shown them that YOU AGREE that you are less important than what they want, or less capable than they are to run your own life. And so, there will be more demands. Your parents/family/wife will then be dictating to you that they want kids/grandkids. Then they will dictate to you that you must buy and pay for a bigger house and better schools for those kids etc etc etc. They will never stop once you show them that you and your sovereignty and your goals don’t matter even to yourself.

    It is all well and good to want the best for your kids, but the decision about when to have kids, and with whom is, and should be yours … because it’s you alone who will have to bear the burden of all the consequences of those decisions. They will not be there to share the load with you.

    If you do say “no” to them, they will not like it. They expect and feel entitled to make your decisions for you. They’ve already shown you that. You can expect them to bitch and complain about it and use every form of manipulation available to them to get what they want. But if you say “no” and say it consistently, they will (eventually) get a different message. They will eventually get the message that your decisions are not their’s to make. That will take some time and you will have to be consistent with your “no” answer. (Inconsistency will only make them try harder). If you are consistent, you will eventually come to a place where they stop pressing you. They might still think your decisions are theirs to make, but they will accept that they are not going to get to make them, and will stop trying.

    They WILL NOT disown you, ESPECIALLY if you are their only son. Trust me on this one. They are not going to give up their only son.

    Philosophically, try to remember that a man is not defined by when he says ‘yes’. He is defined by what he says ‘no’ to. This may be harder to understand as a young man, but you’ll understand it well as you age. If every color presented to you is your favorite color, you don’t have a favorite color and cannot be defined by your favorite color. If you say yes to every religion presented to you, you cannot be defined as a Hindu, Jew, Muslim or Christian. If you say yes to every political philosophy presented to you, you cannot be defined as Democrat, Republican, Communist, Socialist etc.

    Lots of people who are Christians, or Communists, or Jews or socialists think that these things are great and that you should become one of them. All of them have at least a few members that will pressure you if given the chance.

    But your favorite color, your religion, your political orientation are all personal decisions made by you that define who you are. These decisions are yours only yours to make. Marital status is also a decision that defines who you are, is enormously personal, and is ONLY yours to make for the exact same reason. Defining who you are is accomplished by what you say ‘no’ to and is a set of decisions ONLY for you to make.

    “No” is where you stop, and something else or someone else begins. Keep saying it, and meaning it, and those people pressuring you will eventually give up. If you mean it and are consistent, they will eventually respect it. Since they can’t really go get another son off the shelf, they don’t have much of a choice. 😉

    But if you cave in here, they will NEVER respect you again, and their demands and expectations will only grow…

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #499780
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    Polish MGHOW
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    @odin our brothers have given you a good advice, so I won’t be repeating it. But there’s something I can add to all of this: take a step back, as even if you put aside MGTOW (as your family is blue pill af), how can you be pressured to marry a girl you don’t even know? And what’s more – you should only marry whom you love (and are loved back). Especially since you live in UK. Your family should know, that the local culture rubbed off on you (Disney), so you want to be happy in your marriage… I think that could be a good argument for your blue pill parents. So, just stall until you’re ready to become independent. And you’ll have to. I know it’s hard thing to do, but to become a man (and future head of a family) you need to have a strong character. Otherwise you’ll end up like your sister’s husband.

    tl;dr GYOW!

    #499813
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    Singularity
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    What this video in it’s entirety. Then you will know what to do.

    #499815
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    Eric Lauder
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    My advice is to man up.
    “Man up” meaning being a man and STAND FOR YOUR RIGHT TO NOT MARRY.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #499823
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    Eric Lauder
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    Demand a 16 year old virgin and a massive dowry/house.

    Force them to put their own skin in the game. It’s easy for people to tell others to do something, but people tend to be far less interested when they have to invest and put themselves at risk.

    If they want you married, then they better give you title to the house. A man needs property before he can be married after all.

    ^THIS^

    It’s exactly like stealthing: you have to ask an huge price.
    You have to draw a list of demands that “could kill a bull, if the bull could read it”.
    And when your parents will not be able to satisfy it, tell them that they’re disrespecting you by offering you a spouse that isn’t worthy.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

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