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PS, it is not a Christian thing and definitely not anything like Scientology. I’ve never seen a crucifix in a lodge and I’ve been in hundreds. I know many members who are Jewish and a few who are Muslim. In fact there is a Jewish Lodge in my city.
I’ve been through all the degrees of masonry except the 33rd. Most of them are just witnessing an allegory about the Old Testament. The 33rd degree is an honor confirmed for service to the fraternity or the community.
The Dockyard bar has a s~~~ atmosphere and is full of c~~~s
The majority of places in Manchester are like that now.
If you go back to the 1990s and even to a lesser extent the early 2000s it still was a brilliant place for nights out.
Problem is the gang problem closed many places then the last few laces I use d to go closed 2007 onwards.
Now it is all just poncy bars, the old dive rave places used to be brilliant for having a laugh no on judged yo gave a s~~~ about clothes and all that crap.
Of course past glories are well known so people still flock to Manchester even though by and large it is now s~~~.
If raves and clubs were your thing you could go in a place on your own and talk to people you had never met and have a proper laugh.
As stupid as it sounds the edge and down right danger was part of what made it I can remember being in the Music Box on Oxford Street (it’s now a tesco metro) (the top end of oxford road past the palace is actually oxford street) in the early 2000s standing for the first 40 minutes with the other ravers eye balling the moody mossside gangsters -doing the famous manc walk about on the spot before kicking off. Next thing I know its 5am sat in a dingey corner covered in sweat with a load of gangsters and their biatches all of our t~~~.
Manc was like that even the gangs liked a f~~~in party mate.
MAnchester’s reputation for both the good and the bad is very very well deserved if anything its underestimated in both camps.
Dam shame what they did to this town.
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Anonymous38As stupid as it sounds the edge and down right danger was part of what made it I can remember being in the Music Box on Oxford Street (it’s now a tesco metro) (the top end of oxford road past the palace is actually oxford street) in the early 2000s standing for the first 40 minutes with the other ravers eye balling the moody mossside gangsters -doing the famous manc walk about on the spot before kicking off. Next thing I know its 5am sat in a dingey corner covered in sweat with a load of gangsters and their biatches all of our t~~~.
Manc was like that even the gangs liked a f~~~in party mate.
MAnchester’s reputation for both the good and the bad is very very well deserved if anything its underestimated in both camps.
Dam shame what they did to this town.Haha. Sounds like my youth, on steroids. I always thought in my head Manchester would become a little London. Hence why I bought property here. The poseurs and ponces aren’t for me but if they pay my mortgages then it’s all good.
I always thought in my head Manchester would become a little London.
Yeah that’s it although I live din London 1995 to 1999 when at university (came back to manc in the summer) and I had a proper laugh in London I used to go raves at 414 on coldharbour lane , then over in east london used to be loads of
raves in Dalston and around old old streetwe got cleansed out and the f~~~in hipsters moved in about 10 years ago
Sam i n London all places a I went closed years ago now.
Was never quite manc but still had a laugh
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o lets cut out all the bulls~~~ about illuminatie and I’ll tell guys as much as I can.
The illuminate is real and was established in 1776-some say it was a splinter group that had its roots in freemasonry. Which may or may not be true.
Illuminati gets misused as a catch all term for the Kabaal of big pharma, banks, and former chancellors and rime ministers who are the hidden hand and meet every year at the bilderberg group meetings.
The level of control and which bits of conspiracies are true and which are exageration is debateable but even the blindest of the blind realises that the world isnt really controlled by a few sock puppet leaders in London, washington etc.
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I am also a Freemason and Master of my Lodge. I hold the 32 degree in Scottish rite. Soli2DE, I agree with you brother, it is a wonderful organization and a first class fraternity. So lets cut out all the bulls~~~ about illuminatie and I’ll tell guys as much as I can.
1. To belong you must be a man, in most jurisdictions at least 19 years old. What church or religious tradition you belong to is irrelevant, but you must declare your belief in God. We don’t want anyone who has drug or alcohol addictions and no one who has been convicted of a felony.
2. The process of becoming a master mason requires three ceremonies know as degrees. Following these ceremonies the candidate is taught what happened and it must be memorized and examined. Many candidates fall by the wayside with this. When the memory work is completed the candidate passes to the next degree. Upon completion of the third or master mason degree the candidate is a full voting member of the lodge.
3. Like any organization there are operating expenses and annual dues are required. Unfortunately many members lose interest in it and fail to pay their dues. Average dues costs are about a $ 100 a year.
4. Once a man has become a master mason their are other related organizations he can join. Scottish Rite, York Rite, Shriners, Eastern Star.
5. We do all kinds of community service and charities, the largest of which is the Shriners Hospitals for handicapped and burned children. All jurisdictions operate Masonic Homes for elderly members and widows to spend their last years in comfort. A member is taken to his grave with a touching ceremony of final goodbyes.
6. It’s a strong lifelong fraternity, that’s works for each other and protects each other. As well as widows and orphans.
Yes, I’m proud to be a mason. Now that I’m alone it provides me with a social life without the risk of dating and marriage. I would highly recommend it to any man who meets the requirments.All that is true and can be found on Google.
I’m sure there are many masons who are goo decent people.
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The masons have different handshakes to idnetify what level they are?
When they greet another mason in the street they say I see you are a travelling man or may ask how old is your mother.
They have other ways they won’t tell you of identifying if you are really a fellow mason.
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Anonymous54The masons have different handshakes to idnetify what level they are?
When they greet another mason in the street they say I see you are a travelling man or may ask how old is your mother.
They have other ways they won’t tell you of identifying if you are really a fellow mason.
So thats why you asked how old his Mother was! Hah
I thought you were starting some s~~~. As usuall.hahaAll the myths about it being elite dangerous secret society is swords to plowshares bulls~~~, perpetuated by people who know nothing about it.
I will answer any questions you guys have that I possible can. I may have to get back to you this evening. I’m playing golf today.
Thank you Swimcat. I would ask, what are the best things about being a Mason, for you? List as many things as you want. Also, have you experienced the typical cliques within your lodge/other lodges, or are people generally very open-minded and non-exclusive? I also detest the usual social games people play.
I am too much of an individual thinker and introvert to get along with the average person, but I do think if around other decent, honourable men I would feel at home.
All the myths about it being elite dangerous secret society is swords to plowshares bulls~~~, perpetuated by people who know nothing about it.
I will answer any questions you guys have that I possible can. I may have to get back to you this evening. I’m playing golf today.
Thank you Swimcat. I would ask, what are the best things about being a Mason, for you? List as many things as you want. Also, have you experienced the typical cliques within your lodge/other lodges, or are people generally very open-minded and non-exclusive? I also detest the usual social games people play.
I am too much of an individual thinker and introvert to get along with the average person, but I do think if around other decent, honourable men I would feel at home.
The best thing about is the lifelong friendships I’ve made. They were there for me 100 percent when my wife died. My son has become a member as well and we have that activity in common. There are parties and dinners that its just nice to see everyone and just shoot the breeze. The community service projects and fund raisers are fun as well. Being master of the lodge I am responsible for degree work, which is done from memory, and is a lot of work, but its great when it all comes together.
The masons have different handshakes to idnetify what level they are?
When they greet another mason in the street they say I see you are a travelling man or may ask how old is your mother.
They have other ways they won’t tell you of identifying if you are really a fellow mason.
Like many masons I wear a ring that identifies me. When I meet another Mason I ask him what lodge he belongs to, and talk about the fraternity. I’ve never met a man who pretended to be a mason and was not. And yes there are handshakes that identify you. That I cannot discuss here.
The masons have different handshakes to idnetify what level they are?
When they greet another mason in the street they say I see you are a travelling man or may ask how old is your mother.
They have other ways they won’t tell you of identifying if you are really a fellow mason.
So thats why you asked how old his Mother was! Hah
I thought you were starting some s~~~. As usuall.hahaNo. Just saw that post. It is was a legitimate question and I got his point. All good gentlemen.
I like Freemasonary and would get involved if I still lived in Hollywood. The Hollywood Cemetery Lodge has a “cross like” window:
You read the old testament?
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I am also a Freemason and Master of my Lodge. I hold the 32 degree in Scottish rite. Soli2DE, I agree with you brother, it is a wonderful organization and a first class fraternity. So lets cut out all the bulls~~~ about illuminatie and I’ll tell guys as much as I can.[etc]
The usual simplistic handout for the gullible.
If you know that much about it and really are in the loop, then declaring yourself and ‘telling all’ would be the last thing you would do.
[Secret handshakes] That I cannot discuss here.
Compare with previous statement.
Not so open and above board after all.
I first became interested in Freemasonry when I learned that Mozart was a Freemason as a way to avoid the system of music at the time where you had a benefactor that paid you to play serious music.
Mozart was admitted as an apprentice to the Viennese Masonic lodge called “Zur Wohltätigkeit” (“Beneficence”) on 14 December 1784. He was promoted to journeyman Mason on 7 January 1785, and became a master Mason “shortly thereafter”.
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What is the main purpose of current Freemasonry? What does a member actually do at a meeting?
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
PS, it is not a Christian thing and definitely not anything like Scientology.
It certainly isn’t a Christian thing, that’s for sure. ‘I worship the Morning Star’.
Now what – or who – could that be a reference to? There is a reason that the Catholic Church long condemned freemasonry as diabolic.
A ceremony in which the initiate (note the emphasis) swears an oath in which he accepts that his entrails may be torn out should he reveal the organisations secrets, is most certainly cult-like.
The 33rd degree is an honor confirmed for service to the fraternity or the community.
‘For service to the fraternity’ indeed.
What is the main purpose of current Freemasonry? What does a member actually do at a meeting?
At the lower levels, it is unlikely to be anything of great importance. Local events, a few business deals perhaps, or assisting a small town politician.
The higher levels are a different matter. If you wish to delve into that, there is a wealth of material available online and from alternative booksellers.
It shares many of the same goals as Zionism, with which it has very close links.
I first became interested in Freemasonry when I learned that Mozart was a Freemason …
The ‘Magic Flute’ was a masonic allegory. He died in mysterious circumstances shortly afterwards.
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