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I would back this up a bit and ask the more relevant question. How does Money (fiat or otherwise) relate to the MGTOW experience. Having money makes life easier but as mgtow and men we don’t need much. As MGTOW we are free of the “trad-con” collar around our necks waiting for a leash to be snapped onto it by a woman. We don’t need to spend thousands to woo a woman, more thousands for her wedding, more debt for cars, fashion or decoration with a buttload more debt from a “McMansion” so the woman feels satisfied. The quiet truth is no matter what, she won’t feel satisfied of fulfilled. She will always feel that the world owes her a perfect princess life.
Women are the driving force behind the worlds economy because they have NEEEEEDS so the situation we find the world in is a combination of women’s driving consumerism, trad-con men willing to die to meet their woman’s NEEDS and psychopaths in banking industry willing to destroy the worlds economy for the sake of illusory power.
So what advice should we give younger mgtow?
1) Work for yourself, or if not work for an employer. You will need money to take care of life.
2) Avoid all debt when you can, especially credit card debt.
3) Invest in real estate but not before you can put at least HALF the purchase price down.
4) Remember that owning property means taxes which are also like paying rent but only to the state for the right to live on your property.
5) As a mgtow you will accumulate money quickly if you live modestly.
6) If an investment seems too good to be true – ITS A SCAM!!It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Anonymous0I am firmly in the physical exchange camp primarily because whenever a fiat currency fails, society always returns to gold as wealth and silver as money. Digital money and bitcoin is all fine and well but what is left after the electricity and batteries have run dry. You cannot run the system without power. It is a weakness in the system. Physical gold and silver can always be traded. Conveniently, no. It is weakness. Will we be in the Stone Age? No. Society and commerce will just be slower.
Also, The life span of any fiat currency system is at most 75 years. One generation. The dollar was based on gold until 1971. — 2015 minus 1971 equals 44. 75 minus 44 equals at most 31 years – of life left for the present fiat system of world currency barring any Black Swan event like running out of oil. Sadly, war is one of those black swan events.
How does this relate to MGTOW philosophy? We are already going our own way. To me, this is not just a rant against women but a way of life to survive a coming financial collapse. After such an event, physical commodities are more valuable than any form of money. Water, food, shelter, weapons, even a simple fire are all valuable, tradable commodities. As an example, what would be your first priority if your ship sank and you were marooned on an uninhabited island. Would it be Bitcoin wallet, currency, gold? No your first priority would be water. Then food. Then shelter. The Red Pill Awareness of MGTOW is not just against Feminists.
Currency depends on circumstances. We presently live in a society that values creature comforts (read that as women desire those comforts). At some point in the not too distant future that may change.
When one man shares another learns .Read. Post. Learn. That is my rant for today.There is no option to just be a hunter-gatherer in the system because everything is owned and controlled. There is no option but to work for landed gentry.
Yep, and we keep hearing that the hunter-gatherer system and whatever else is so awful and capitalism is so great. I for one, am not saying that capitalism is evil and that it should be utterly destroyed and rot in Oblivion! I’m just saying something is f~~~ed up. I go to school as a kid where they slowly feed this idea into your head that you have to become a specialist in something (a specific cog in the machine) and then after accumulating debt going to college, I can go into the workforce and earn government tokens that don’t have any real value, they constantly become less valuable as inflation skyrockets up, so I have to “invest” to fight this. In order to build wealth, we are told to invest in stock so we can perpetuate the system further and then finally get a return later in life. After we bust our asses for our tokens, we can enjoy our wealth in retirement now that we have used up our youthful years. This is the “good” route. The one where my specialist skills don’t phase out and my country doesn’t send me into a war to protect their special interest. (Yes, I know, the last bit is straying off topic, so I’ll move on)
Can someone get ahead and build wealth? Yes, and congratulations to them, you worked for it and earned it. Are all employees evil and want to oppress their workers? Do I think wealth is evil? No. I don’t think so. Is this current system is something I should be skeptical of and something I should try to be less reliant on? Certainly. If nothing else, I’ll have my wealth diversified and that usually seems like a good thing. Are there pros and cons to every system? Are there some good and bad aspects to them and areas where maybe they could be tweaked? There’s gotta be. Some of the comments make it out like you have to accept [insert preferred system}, and that is it.
I don’t understand how some guys talk about past systems like they are completely terrible. Sure their technology/medicine wasn’t advanced (that sucks), but at least they grew up close with their family and tribe and when they defended their people in battle, they knew what they were fighting for (can we really say that if we ever, god forbid, get drafted?). People took care of each other and you didn’t have to worry about your wife suing you and taking half your tokens and other stuff. Life was shorter but it was also simpler.
DISCLAIMER: This is not a suggestion that we go back to such a system. It’s just a comparison trying to demonstrate some pros/cons.
Another point (said in a light joking tone): Maybe people that disagree with us aren’t dirty goddamned collectivist, Nazis, or have a Rush Limbaugh shrine in the basement they use to pray for ideas they can use an argument against other people on the internet.
When a person does the work for you, and you take the money that they have earned, and then pay them a small percentage out of it, you have confiscated the fruit of their labor, without which you wouldn’t have made any money.
So now capitalism and profit are bad, are they comrade? Who is the individualist and who is the socialist, again?
I don’t know if you’re forgetting, ignoring or just unaware of the fact that the person who is working in a factory, a farm or a service job for the capitalist wouldn’t have any work to do at all if the capitalist hadn’t started the business, identified the product or service, purchased the tools of production, leased or built a facility, done the research and development, funded the creation of prototypes, paid for market testing… need I go on? None of these things would happen at all if it weren’t for the capitalist… your glorious, intrinsically valuable and highly entitled worker wouldn’t have f~~~ all to do if it weren’t for someone willing to take on the risks to create the job for them.
You say we should distribute the income from a venture evenly among everyone who had any part in its production. it doesn’t matter if you spent eight years getting a PH.D. in physics, developed a revolutionary new process and got a patent and a Nobel price or eight years lazily pushing a broom… you’re equally valuable, is it?. Talk about people confiscating your productivity,,, you don’t want to pay a few percentage points of tax but you claim to be willing to let the stoner buss boy who got hired yesterday take home the same amount of pay as the executive chef who spent years and hundreds of thousands of dollars turning his restaurant dream into a reality.
I guess you must see yourself as the buss boy because if you were the chef… if you had ever created anything of value, I can’t help but think you would feel differently.
So yeah, let’s just tear down the whole system and we can all go back to being hunter gatherers… the “Original Affluent Society” without money, interest, taxes, wealth or any sort of material possessions at all. Sounds great, huh? Of course, 90+% of the human population would have to die for the land to sustain those who remained… but I guess you don’t care about their intrinsic value so long as you can convince yourself that you’re right, huh?
It’s no wonder people who believe such things are angry at the wealthy and see anyone with passive income as being brigands. If that’s not r-selected thinking, I don’t know what is.
Now we’re at the point where I’m starting to think I’m being trolled. Nobody could be this self-.contradictory and mean it,
BEER: “So now capitalism and profit are bad, are they comrade? Who is the individualist and who is the socialist, again?”
ME: Apparently, it’s you, because you believe that people should pay rent on things that they own in the form of land taxes, and you have been a statist from the get go, attempting to justify every single piece of legislation that creates the framework, the 10 planks of communism.
BEER: “your glorious, intrinsically valuable and highly entitled worker wouldn’t have f~~~ all to do if it weren’t for someone willing to take on the risks to create the job for them.”
ME: People did things before capitalism was invented. How did they have “f~~~ all” to do without the existence of capitalism?
BEER: “I guess you must see yourself as the buss boy ”
ME: Here we go with the Ad Hominem again. You have no argument, so you have to resort to discrediting the speaker. If you actually had any facts, resorting to attacking the speaker wouldn’t be necessary, not to mention all of the name calling and condescension is akin to the behavior of school children. Let’s behave like men rather than boys, shall we? First off, when I joined the US Navy I became an aircraft electronics technician, finished in the top of my class and chose orders to Japan. By the time I got out, innovations in electronics coupled with Chinese sweat shop style slavery and production made electronics cheaper to replace than to repair because of planned obsolescence. Quick, name an electronics repair place near your house. You can’t. One likely doesn’t exist. It would be great if you would stop attempting to deflect the subject at hand to discredit me, because it would show that you have something logical to say, and actually possess information. Anyone can possess insults and degradation, even children.
BEER: “you claim to be willing to let the stoner buss boy who got hired yesterday take home the same amount of pay as the executive chef who spent years and hundreds of thousands of dollars turning his restaurant dream into a reality. ”
ME: Once again you try to frame me as having said something that I didn’t say. First off, all property was founded on conquest and genocide. That means from the beginning, no one actually purchased the land, but instead decided to either murder someone, or run them off of it, which means truly, no one has a right to the property. Ragnar Redbeard expressed this pretty well when he defined how people come to power over others. That means right off the bat that the sale of the land to the current owner has no legitimacy. However, if a piece of land is uninhabited, it is reasonable for a person to live on it. Secondly, it doesn’t really matter how much work you did to build your business. Without workers, you would not have a business. Why should anyone work for you instead of for themselves? People are starting a game of Monopoly where all of the pieces on the board are already owned, and the rules are rigged for them to lose. The real game is extracting production from other people, and deceiving them into handing over the fruits of their labor. Meanwhile, legislation purchased by the previous conquerors has criminalized the option for people NOT to work for someone else’s business. If that isn’t serfdom, I don’t know what is.. and the only way to escape it is to harness the labor of others? That means you are either the master, or the slave. I do not wish to be either, but the collective compels me to upon the threat of violence. It’s the equivalent of you and I being in a room with food in the corner, and me telling you that you have to perform a service for me or you can’t have any food.
Attempting to frame me as communist/socialist has failed you at every turn. It doesn’t matter how cute you think it is to call me “comrade”, the book that I linked “The Creature from Jekyll Island” exposes the evils of Socialism to the highest degree, and is filled with the absolute facts about it. World Socialism is the objective of the bankers, who literally *are* plank number 5… but you support every single piece of legislation that constitutes the legal framework, and claim to be an individualist, a libertarian, and for capitalism. You have to choose a side sir. You can’t be on the side of the bankers (the collective), and the side of the people at the same time. You’re either against the legal framework of the 10 planks of communism, and for capitalism, or you are simply a conveniently programmed social drone, verbally repeating the social programming to perpetuate the status quo. Make up your mind, Beer. As for me, I’m not for either. I have already stated this fact using this exact quote on this posting:
“Capitalists wish to enslave you by owning and controlling the resources you are dependent upon. Communist/Socialists wish to enslave you through an authoritarian government that owns and controls the resources you are dependent upon. Neither one of them want you to be independent, and they both wish to confiscate your labor”.
Psychopath capitalists even wish to force the common people to have to pay for water, while draining and selling water from public and municipal sources, like the CEO from Nestle. What happens when your profit system leads to a giant corporation hellbent on controlling 100% of the world’s food supply, but already now controls 75%? Is that communism? What’s a monopoly? Please think about this, Beer. Really take the time out to think.
There is no option to just be a hunter-gatherer in the system because everything is owned and controlled. There is no option but to work for landed gentry.
Another point (said in a light joking tone): Maybe people that disagree with us aren’t dirty goddamned collectivist, Nazis, or have a Rush Limbaugh shrine in the basement they use to pray for ideas they can use an argument against other people on the internet.
Lol. This is exactly what I was talking about when I was referring to “Ad Hominem”. Perhaps I shouldn’t have compared someone else to a Nazi, but when they say something that is almost identical about how people who do not produce more than they consume don’t deserve to live, I have to break out the facts. A comparison like that isn’t “Ad Hominem”, it’s a legitimate comparison and I provided a video clip as proof. If a person does not wish to be compared to an ideological system, they should not mimic it’s philosophies to the almost exact T. On a side note, people who do not work are not producing anything.. even if they are getting paid because someone else is doing the work for them. The system is an astronomically massive hypocrisy.
That means you are either the master, or the slave. I do not wish to be either, but the collective compels me to upon the threat of violence.
“I have neither lent on usury, nor men have lent to me on usury; yet every one of them doth curse me” Jeremiah 15:10.
Once again I’ll ask… from where does this “down with fiat currency, the fed, interest, taxes and so forth…” Stuff come from?
An easy book to help you understand with actual economic view (full disclaimer: Austrian economics) that is not just easy to read but ALSO summarizes what has been going on is End the Fed by Dr. Ron Paul. Actual “down with fiat currency, the fed, interest rates and so forth” comes from people who know what is going on with the Fed. Rush, Alex, Fox news are reactionaries to news. Actual economic theory comes down to two main competing views right now with others just in quasi in the middle road. (half ass measures.)
Austrian economics: Government involvement in the business cycle creates warps in the market (booms) that eventually need to correct (busts). Austrian economics explain inflation as expanding the money supply and credit (interest rates) which causes eventual price inflation which is what you eventually see and what people normally finally view as inflation.
Keynesian economics: Government involvement in the market (but no understanding of business cycle) helps grow the market and help stop market busts. Keynsians also misrepresent inflation as the after effect, not the cause. So finally if you see 10.00 gas up from 3.00, that’s inflation to a keynsian.
So because Keynsian economics doesn’t properly understand the business cycle, they have been pumping credit and saturating the market with fiat which grows crony capitalism, because hey he got a contract from Darpa and now he can bribe a senator.
Currently our economy in the US is saturated with mal-investments that eventually need a form of correction because eventually debt has to be paid. The market will adjust. It is a correction, not a collapse. The market participants will eventually call in debts, the goal is to not be the one on the hook.
The taxpayer is usually put on the hook because of their general ignorance.
As for fiat/money debates, that comes from two competing views from Austrian economists Sound/Hard Money proponents, and Fiat currency proponents in keynsians. Filthy f~~~ing keynsians.
Or if you don’t want to do any reading and just want a quick to the point Doc. Here you go.
A prostitute performs a service, and a pimp confiscates a large percentage of his or her pay.
Clearly you don’t understand the role of the pimp. When a hooker is accepting too little pay for too much effort, who secures for her a higher paying tier of customers? When she gets arrested, who bails her out? When a John tries to rough her up or refuses to pay, who protects her and collects for the work she did? When she gets lazy and starts feeling like she’s too good to work for her upkeep anymore, who keeps her on track and makes sure she remains productive? When she wants to be special and important, who takes her out and shows her a night on the town?
You actually think a pimp provides no value… and you probably think this of managers, directors, consultants, executives, politicians, bankers, investors… hey, just because you can’t see or don’t understand the value they produce doesn’t mean they aren’t producing any,
Are there pimps who are thugs? Yes, just as sure as there are CEOs who are embezzlers and politicians who are stooges… but that doesn’t mean that the entire category of them are predators, confiscating and living off the hard work of others and deserving our scorn and dismissal. How childish of you to suggest otherwise,
I am going to tear this f~~~ing argument to shreds. First off, a pimp does not provide value to the prostitute. He extracts value from the prostitute. Many prostitutes do not want to be under the service of their pimps, but they are held captive by violence, or made into debt servants by supplying and addicting them to drugs, and then having them work off what they owe with prostitution. Most pimps are abusive to their hookers. “My bitch better have my money, rain, sleet, or snow.” That is the most common scenario. Pimps rarely actually care about their prostitutes and aren’t these white knights that you describe them to be. This is reality. There are some prostitutes like at the bunny ranch who prosper, and voluntarily provide a service and that’s fine. The most expensive prostitutes in the world have been kidnapped and held against their will in the sex slave industry. Just because someone can make a dollar from it, doesn’t mean they are creating value, and people are not products. Shall we kidnap people, put them in a building and sell tickets to torture them too? According to sadists, that’s creating value. People are not products. Not everything that creates a dollar adds actual value, sir. /RIP argument.
Now let’s compare that to what government does. What is the function of law? To create and perpetuate an advantage for the ruling class and suppress and subjugate all others under the guise of protection. Extortion does not create value, not when a pimp does it, not when the mafia does it, and it damned sure doesn’t create value when the government does it.
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I agree that you have been the number 1 target of ad hominem here, and yes I see that your Nazi comment was a part of a comparison, so it’s not like it was empty name calling. The thing I don’t understand about the disagreement is the “deserving to die thing”. Unless someone has rendered the government services, like a veteran, I don’t see the point in a government giving them a paycheck/handout, but a person’s worthiness to live is not tied to their money making capabilities. I remember Doc posted that he agrees that a person’s intrinsic value is not determined by their economic status, so I guess our dispute is over whether or not the current system manipulates the workers or not. A person can build themselves wealth, but that doesn’t excuse the system. Like Snake was getting at, right is right and wrong is wrong. This system is messed up. Because of things like inflation and government intervention, a person has to invest their money in order for it to not loss value, that is bulls~~~. You should get the proper reward for doing your work, not “Here is your reward, now you have to do this in order to retain it’s relative value!”
Big Boss… rolling up in here with the facts like a…boss. Without Ad Hominem. I respect you, Boss.
Thank you Tiga. I do not claim to know the solution, only the problem, and I am not alone in that diagnosis. Almost all of us agree that government intervention in the market, and central banks, are it. Anyone who does not feel that way can correct me at any time. As for some, how they can support the legislative framework of the 10 planks of communism and still claim to champion capitalism is beyond me..
Thank you Tiga. I do not claim to know the solution, only the problem, and I am not alone in that diagnosis. Almost all of us agree that government intervention in the market, and central banks, are it. Anyone who does not feel that way can correct me at any time. As for some, how they can support the legislative framework of the 10 planks of communism and still claim to champion capitalism is beyond me..
Glad to hear it. I know some people think complaining about the issue without solution is useless, but in my mind, identifying the issue is the first step to solving any problem. If nothing else, the debate is producing a good list of books to read.
Thank you Tiga. I do not claim to know the solution, only the problem, and I am not alone in that diagnosis. Almost all of us agree that government intervention in the market, and central banks, are it. Anyone who does not feel that way can correct me at any time. As for some, how they can support the legislative framework of the 10 planks of communism and still claim to champion capitalism is beyond me..
Glad to hear it. I know some people think complaining about the issue without solution is useless, but in my mind, identifying the issue is the first step to solving any problem. If nothing else, the debate is producing a good list of books to read.
Indeed. The majority of people still do not understand the problem. Furthermore, as individualist as I may actually be, it is going to take a collective effort to solve it, because if I attempt to fish, hunt, or grow my own food on land that no one is using, a state religious zealot is going to attempt to kidnap or harm me because of his or her beliefs. Therefore, the beliefs are what have to change, because ideologies and dogma are what the ruling class uses to deceive people into prioritizing the interests of the ruling class over our own. This disguise is usually labeled something like “The common good”, “The Greater Good”, “Society”, “National Security”, etc.
Big Boss… rolling up in here with the facts like a…boss. Without Ad Hominem. I respect you, Boss.
Thanks brah!
Snake, it is refreshing to see someone else who has taken the time to evaluate the wisdom of Mark Passio. His explanations of natural law are the most brilliant that I have seen. In fact, before you even posted this, I posted his natural law seminar in the philosophy forums. You probably have seen it, but if you haven’t, I highly recommend it being that you appreciate his teachings as much as I.
No, the monetary system having fiat currency is the prime culprit for disparity of rich and poor. Crony capitalism simply means people are getting government preferential treatment because of political/financial connections.
But having a guy ridiculously rich and doing nothing vs someone working forever on only a fragment is the result of fiat currency and fractional reserve banking….
I don’t blame inflation for a weakening middle class…I blame it on stagnant wages, but what do you expect as we shift towards a global economy, its a no brainer wealth was going to move from rich countries to poor. We also have some of the highest corporate taxes in the world, and our workers expect to be paid a lot more than in a lot of other places…is it really surprising when businesses move operations elsewhere, especially when nothing is stopping them from turning around and selling their product at the same price after they slash production costs and avoid taxes via the move. A lot of the manufacturing jobs that once made up a good portion of our uneducated middle class jobs have gone over seas where there is cheaper labor and lower taxes. Meanwhile our government allows an invasion of illegal foreigners to persist, and they drive wages for uneducated workers down even more. To top it off we even import a bunch of cheap labor on h1b visas to drive wages down for some of our educated workers as well.
You should. Inflation is primarily an expansion of the money supply (low interest rates/fractional reserve banking/fiat currency).
That is the FIRST step in creating ALL the problems people are complaining about and dealing with as it creates eventual price inflation at stores. So people need to get paid more to meet an increasing cost of living expense due to money supply expansion. So labor costs “go up” to meet the price of living expenses. Look at it this way:
Coca Cola before 1930’s managed to be 10 cents back then despite having MORE expensive materials such as glass bottles and refined sugar which is heavily taxed unlike corn syrup. Far more expensive production processes. There was less automation and less distribution. 10 cents. Labor costs were higher likely per volume sold.
Now even with labor costs at far lower overhead in modern times compared to the volume produced, bought by far more distributors, and sales against competitors, it is 2.50 with cheaper material such as fountain drinks, plastics, corn syrup, modern management, and a publicly sold company that can easily get cash and liquidity even if it runs its operations in the red.
Now, what about ALL the other accurate stuff you included? That is the result of crony capitalism that has grown because of easy credit/keynsian economic theory. If we had sound money, those obstacles you pointed out would not be sustainable or be at such levels because of sound money forcing bankruptcies, reduction of kick backs, and market forcing corrections faster.
Doc….he’s saying there is no other option in the system but to slave away. You say capitalism, communism, socialism, and individualism, as if they have any real meaning. It’s not right vs left, it’s RIGHT VS WRONG. You can try to justify slavery to me all day until your f~~~ing head explodes but at the end you will still be wrong and we will still be right.
Oh man, you guys are killing me. So you’re just going to choose to pursue a world view in which you are perpetually enslaved with no possible recourse but to angrily and impotently rail against it? What the f~~~ good does that do? And for what… a few percentage points in taxes, having to pay interest on your car loan and some rich criminals you’ll never meet having nicer s~~~ than you?
Honestly… if you really believe you are endlaved you have a MORAL COMPUNCTION to do something about it, if you really believe the system to be as corrupt as you say it is, then strap on and go f~~~ some s~~~ up. Kill the leaders, blow up the banks, hack and wipe the records, steal from the rich and give to the poor… I don’t care how you do it but for god’s sake stop whining and DO SOMETHING.
I’m a slave and there’s nothing I can do but be angry MY ASS. Break your chains, kill the masters and burn down the plantation… or get used to being a slave and shut the f~~~ up… or figure out how to look at the world differently so that your chains no longer exist. Hey, it worked for the Jews… Pharoe is rich and we’re broke… so let’s just declare broke to be the new rich! Voila, God loves the poor people and your wealth damns you to hell, problem solved (lol, not really but whatever totes your goats).
I have a philosophy that if there is no solution, there is no problem. What that means is that if you dislike something but have zero options for changing it, you’d better start looking for a way to start liking it or at least accept it. To fight against an unkillable spectre is the path to madness and it sounds like you guys are way down that path.
You’re getting this s~~~ from Fox News, aren’t you? Come on… admit it.
“according to Veni that passive income you could make off rentals is bad, you are just exploiting your tenants..” Please don’t ever say things like this. First off, this is a lie. I never said any such thing about rentals, because rentals never came up.
So let me get this straight….if I buy a string of apartments, higher a few employees to run the show for me, and then go move down to Florida and spend my life playing golf and never doing another days work in my life again because I’m paying other people to do the work for me that’s ok?(That’s what a lot of people heavily invest in real estate do)
But If I buy an ice cream shop, higher a few people to run the show for me, and then go move down to Florida and spend my life playing golf while collecting profits from the ice cream shop every month and never do another days work in my life again because I’m paying other people to do the work for me and collecting the profit that’s bad?
If you think that’s a lie and that isn’t what you said, perhaps you should go back and read what you’ve been saying again.
If someone else does the work, you do not deserve to get paid for it.
Like that. Lol.
When a person does the work for you, and you take the money that they have earned, and then pay them a small percentage out of it, you have confiscated the fruit of their labor, without which you wouldn’t have made any money. “Profit” is the quantification of the value created by labor, confiscated from the person who created a product or performed a service.
So if you are going into coding…if some guy that owned a company and hired you and 4 other people and offered you a 50,000 dollar a year salary, and you agreed to it, and he paid you that 50,000 dollars, but he also made 100,000 in profit, what makes you feel entitled to any of his 100,000 dollars worth of profit?
You made a deal with him, you agreed to work for 50,000 salary, which he paid you, you didn’t agree to work for 50,000 salary and a profit share, which by the way, some companies do offer…
Let’s flip the scenario around…same situation…he paid you your 50,000 but the business had a bad year and lost 100,000. That guy approaches you and says sorry man, you have to give me back 20,000 dollars to cover my losses. How would you feel about that?
1. They don’t understand that they should have received the full fruits of their own labor.
If Walmart will pay you 12 dollars an hour to stock shelves, and Target will pay you 12 dollars an hour to stock shelves…you are doing literally the same thing for either of the companies…are they not paying you the going rate for that type of work? If Walmart makes 100 million and Target loses 100 million…your labor wasn’t somehow more valuable because the people above you made better decisions in how the company was run.
2. They are not authorized to receive the full fruits of their labor via law.
If you agree to work for a certain amount of money and you do not get your money, it is a violation of labor laws and a simple phone call will get you your money and the company a s~~~ storm of legal trouble.
3. People are compelled by law to acquire currency because it is illegal to subsist without paying the government.
LOL!!!!!! Seriously? The government f~~~ing pays people so they can subsist without income. We don’t throw our poor in jail, we put them on welfare.
You don’t believe me? Go to work tomorrow, give me the money and I’ll pay you a small percentage out of it. This is mafia style “bite”, or “taste” using deception and coercion instead of brute force tactics. People who accept money for labor that they didn’t do are freeloaders. They are takers, not makers.
Lol…I’m not going to go to work tomorrow, hand my boss 1000 dollars, and then thank him for giving me back 100 at the end of the day. I’m going to go to work tomorrow and when I leave at the end of the day have an extra 400 dollars I didn’t have when I started.
If you want me to maybe come mow your lawn for you, and you’ll pay me 100 dollars, I’ll come do it. When I come to mow your lawn, I’m not going to hand you 1000 dollars and when I finish thank you for giving me 100 back.
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