Do MGTOW's see flaws in themselves?

[MDawgDizMizzleParticipant 73]

I’ve been reading up on comments, stories, terms and the way of the MGTOW. In my findings I believe to be tagged a “purple piller”. (Don’t know how flexible this site is in terms of posting as a non red piller) I haven’t come across the MGTOW’s take on themselves or other’s in the community. I’ll start this question off by stating that in no way is this an insult. I’ve learned a lot here and really appreciate this community. My question is this. As a MGTOW, do you believe you can do no wrong? Do you recognize your own flaws? There is a lot of facts that I see myself in women stated here that I never fully pegged until I found this community, but have any of you come across facts of men that are more or less negative? I’m fairly neutral in nature and love hearing all sides of the story. Thanks for your time.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Do some people have/see flaws in themselves ?

Yes.

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[RebaneParticipant 215]

I have my issues and they are mine to solve. Thanks to MGTOW I won’t let women’s issues become my problem.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Rebane wrote:

I have my issues and they are mine to solve. Thanks to MGTOW I won’t let women’s issues become my problem.

Agree entirely.

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[AttonParticipant]

I myself see my own laziness, so yeah I would hope MGTOW could see there flaws.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[UntamedParticipant]

The differences between MEN and weemins is that we know we have flaws, BIG flaws, and we work every f~~~ing day to overcome them. And we know that weemins have flaws too, BIG ones. But we don’t plot to use their flaws against them to f~~~ing destroy their entire lives and that of their children and sisters and brother and grandpas and grandmas.

I’m NOT perfect. I KNOW it. I trusted weemins and menginas.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

MDawgDizMizzle wrote:

As a MGTOW, do you believe you can do no wrong?

That’s a more typically inherent female quality – as you’ve probably noticed. The last time you heard a woman apologize for a major screw up was not very recently , that’s for sure. But let’s not forget, men are required to shoulder the blame FOR EVERYTHING, and when a relationship fails (for example) a man is way more likely beat himself up for mistakes that weren’t even his. This is a place where you can remove a great part of that baggage and begin saying “well, THAT wasn’t REALLY my fault”.

So it would follow that when EVERYBODY is trying to dump the burden on you – and you turn around and say “You know what? NO. YOU are wrong.” it will almost certainly come off as him thinking a little too highly of himself compared to what’s expected of him. When you stick to it, set your own terms, assume 100% agency and make yourself “god” of your own universe…. that’s when you can be right all the time – for a refreshing change.

Women have told me I cook with the wrong pan, eat with the wrong spoon, dry my hand with wrong towel and put the soap in the soap dish wrong. But did I REALLY? No. I cooked with A pan that got the job done, and she can knock it off.

So when you ask “as a MGTOW do you think you can do now wrong?”…. it isn’t really about that.
It’s more like: f~~~ you for telling us that we ARE.

That’s DEFINITELY going to rub some people the wrong way, but that’s not HIS problem.
It’s their mistake for telling him he was “wrong” in the first place.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

MDawgDizMizzle wrote:

As a MGTOW, do you believe you can do no wrong?

Everyone can do some wrong. That’s why we’re not like feminists, and tend to think instead of treating other like s~~~ because muh feelz. We should use reason to understand what we feel, so we don’t end up being a bunch of over-emotional children…

MDawgDizMizzle wrote:

Do you recognize your own flaws?

Mgtow is about improving yourself. So obviously, seeing what you’re doing wrong in your life, and then trying to fix it is what we should all be doing.
Not only men, everyone.
Unfortunately, a lot of people nowadays are c~~~s with such a huge ego that they think criticizing what they do wrong is hate. (Yeah feminists, I’m talking about you!)

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[RebalancedParticipant 346]

Yes we have flaws but the difference is we can admit to them. I agree with KM saying that the last time we heard a female apologise was not very recently. My ex never apologised and in fact was so f’n warped that when she smashed my mothers front door (in front of her kids too) she wanted an apology from me for provoking her (even though i wasnt even there at the time). She got arrested for that and criminal damage the next day at my workplace (keycut my car) and wanted an apology for that also!

I don't need pussy

[EntropyParticipant 902]

I mean this with respect… but:

What the hell are these flaws you speak of? Seriously?

Flaws compared to what? What the hell are you talking about?

What you ARE is a combination of your genetic makeup and past life experiences… that’s f~~~ing it.

Do you mean Flaws like: “leaves the toilet seat up” or flaws like “has aids”?

If I have “trust issues” it’s because I have been fooled before by some c~~~/ass hole, if I leave my plates in the sink it’s because I don’t f~~~ing want to clean them. If I do heroin it’s because- f~~~ you that’s why…

The whole idea of “Flaws” is a shaming tactic to say you aren’t worthy of something (pussy mostly). F~~~ that. That’s periwinkle pill thinking dude.

"Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves" -BBR

[BiG_WeaselParticipant 116]

I eat garbage, but don’t gain weight, so that’s a negative.  I’m a smart ass asshole.  My mouth gets me in trouble.  Yeah, I know my flaws.  That’s down from what it was, though.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Conceit is a flaw. But, I am not conceited because I have no flaws!!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[MDawgDizMizzleParticipant 73]

Very well spoken. I think I’m more or less basing this question off the labels rather than the core concept.

[MDawgDizMizzleParticipant 73]

Hell no. Mgtows are perfect. U can quote me on that.

[MDawgDizMizzleParticipant 73]

I learn more speaking to you guys than I do reading up on things.  It’s ignorance on my part basing people off of labels I guess. Living for one’s self becomes more clear day by day. Thanks for your post.

[MDawgDizMizzleParticipant 73]

I think because this concept of going your own way is new to me. As basic as it sounds I’ve more or less been living for other people. I see comments across the internet that show insults to women due to their nature instead of actual conversation. That, along with abbreviations that come off somewhat as labels had me wondering. It’s not that I was looking for faults tied to MGTOW’S, I was wondering how some felt about themselves. Some here have women down to a science, so I wanted a take on what men thought of themselves. I believe KM said it, a fault in our nature is carrying people’s problems on our shoulders. Looking back on it it was a pretty dumb question, but the answers enlighten me.

[Bl4ckSh33pParticipant 274]

I know I have flaws. The difference between me and women though is that I actively improve myself so I can rid myself of my flaws, as opposed to women who just sweep them under the rug and never do s~~~ to improve their behavior.

I hate to break it to you, but what people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard Morty then it slowly fades leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are going to do it. Break the cycle Morty, rise above, focus on science. -Rick Sanchez

[Anonymous 13]

I am starting to realize my arrogance is a problem linked to low self esteem – linked to fear which causes anger – I’m mapping out my emotions and my thinking patterns and I’m trying to correct them, so I can live a more fulfilling life for myself and my children.

 

Self examination is tough, but its necessary, and any successful man does or has done this with all do seriousness.

 

Young women tend to think they can do no wrong because they get so much attention from men with low self esteem – thirsty men – they get so much undue attention for substandard acts of basically nothing redeemable.  They are reinforced by their lack of action and/or acts of selfishness and stupidity way more often, by not only hordes of weak men but the courts and media!

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I see a lot of flaws in myself, women see a lot of flaws in myself, and even MGTOWs see a lot of flaws in myself. I used to be one of those guys who was so preppy and unsuccessful with girls growing up, that I looked up to the bully alpha bad boys, thinking I should be more like them, so I could get laid. This led me on the wild goose chase that took the most of my adolescent life. I became one of those tattooed drug dealer street racing bad boy types before I settled and had a family. It never really worked because underneath I have always remained the same, and this mismatch created cognitive dissonance in females so most of them avoided me anyways

This is an interesting discussion here – if there are flaws in the eye of the beholder only, or are these universally accepted character flaws.

I started my own topic three or so days ago here where I tried to find an answer to the question – does one have a right to expect much from a woman when he doesn’t have much to offer himself, where I went at length at it. I still think about this everyday and haven’t come to any conclusions yet. Didn’t mean to hijack the thread, but chime in if you have any input on this.

Thanks for starting this topic, but I think this should have been started in the “Philosophy” subsection. Definately going to follow this

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 42]

Wrong? Not me! I’ve hammered at the truth endlessly until all the impurities fall away! MGTOW is the kick in the teeth feminism deserves! Am I wrong for my bold, rude, aggressive, arrogant approach? F~~~ NO!

My life has been immeasurably altered, hampered, frustrated, manipulated, and damn near ended by the onslaught of feminism! I know my enemy well, I will not allow her to vandalize another single solitary man if I can help it! I’m in it till the bloody end!

I’ll pry, break, and smash every one of their prying fingers before I’ll allow them entry or safe passage. The INDIFFERENCE IS ABSOLUTE !

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