Curiosity

[GunslingerParticipant 242]

Math Ronin wrote:

Honestly, I don’t think women even know what they want. I think the can say something and truly believe it and then at some point in the future do a complete 360.

Read this statement and then re-read it again. They don’t have any idea what they want other than the now. My blood sucker stated she loved video games when we first got together. She hasn’t touched one in 4 or more years. Says she’s grown out of them. Even if she is truly this anti-feminist, she’ll change in a few years, if you haven’t already kicked her to the curb by then, and then she’ll be on your ass non-stop. Saying how you manipulated her and that everything that is wrong in her life is all your fault.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Gunslinger wrote:

My blood sucker stated she loved video games when we first got together. She hasn’t touched one in 4 or more years. Says she’s grown out of them.

…And then she’ll blame you for spending too much time on your gaming system instead of investing that time in her.

I’m like “lady, I’m focused on catching ’em all in Pokemon for the umpteenth time.  It’s never gotten old.  At least the GAMES can age and stay attractive almost 20 years later.”

[Anonymous 12]

I came across a woman like that on a dating site as well, I didn’t mention MGTOW or Feminism but she did talk about how much she hates Feminism and sympathizes with men. I wrote about it here –  /forums/topic/dodged-an-artillery-shell-latest-online-dating-adventure/

As the title suggests, tread carefully!

 

[RoyDalParticipant]

I got my oil changed this day. Only men were around. We talked about our dogs. This seems relevant somehow, so I’m submitting it.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

couldn’t help it

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Hi Matt,

Welcome to mgtow.  50 year old die-hard mgtow, single, childless, medical doctor here.  I don’t have as much time to write as I would like, but there were two words in particular that you wrote when writing about her that stood out for me: “distinct” and “medschool”.

Try to remember that all relationships are contracts.  And a contract is just an agreement between two parties about what is offered and what is expected by each of them.  Most of the time, business contracts are written, so they cannot be easily changed except by the agreement of both parties.  Personal relationships are contracts are very rarely written down, and so they can change enormously.  Because they are not written down, one or the other party can demand that they change into something else… while later claiming that the something else is what the original contract was actually for all along.  It can very quickly become enormously confused.

If you are in, or considering being in a relationship with any woman, remember that you are entering a contract of offerings and expectations, wether that contract is written down or not.  In the world we live in today, when a disputed contract is not written and that confusion has to be sorted out by any third party: marriage counselor, police at the door, churches, family courts, debt collectors…etc.  the benefit of the doubt will always be given to the female party of any disputed contract.  None of them will ever ask her views on feminism before doing this, they will just do it.  Sometimes, even if a personal relationship contract IS written down, and it doesn’t seem to favor the female party enough, a family court will just call it illegitimate and ignore it.

Therefore, the context of this bias in the surrounding society can make it difficult to forge a fair and durable relationship with a woman no matter what you do, or how genuinely opposed to feminism she may actually be.  The effect feminism has had on the society (creating this bias against you) is not necessarily the fault of this individual woman, but it makes no difference.  The bias against you remains wether she was ever in favor of it or not.

None of this is a problem, so long as 1) you both have a VERY CLEAR understanding of what each of your offerings and expectations actually are, and 2) you (the man) never make an irreversible commitment to whatever YOU THINK your contract is.  This means that, at a minimum: you cannot live together, you cannot reproduce together, and you obviously cannot get married.  If you do any of these three things, a contract (which has already been written) will be assumed to be in place and imposed onto you by default.  The terms of the contract, which you may never have even heard of, will then be enforced on you as if you had agreed to them all along.  You will have little to no recourse.

The second thing is medical school.  As a doctor myself, I can tell you that if she applies to an American medical school, her entrance exam scores will not have to be as high as a male applicant in order for her to be admitted.  The state government (part of that context of your relationship I wrote about above) has dictated that 1/2 of all medical school graduates from medical school be women.  Because the state governments control the education budget that funds the medical schools, the schools will comply by whatever means necessary.  Lowering the minimum admission scores for women applicants ensures that this ratio will occur at graduation.  The medical school will not acknowledge this openly.  She may not agree that it ‘should’ be this way, but she will benefit from this bias without ever even knowing it was there.  This is a pattern, not an exception.

While in medical school and residency, she will rack up 100-300k in very real debt, while having enormous amounts of her time soaked up by the process.  In addition to soaking up her time and money, it will sap much of her energy and attention.  This is to be expected, but the reality is that it will leave her much less in what she has to offer to a relationship.  When the process is over, she will be a female graduate of an American medical school.  Statistically, the odds of her still practicing medicine full time 5 years after graduation is about 35%…  but that debt will last much longer than 5 years.

Where is that debt going to go?   And where are her living expenses going to come from?  Where is her house going to come from?  Where is the money to support her children going to come from?

These questions have already been answered.  I know the answer to these questions.  The society that surrounds your relationship knows the answer to these questions.  And this girl knows the answer to these questions.  She can say all day long that she doesn’t like or agree with the answer to these questions, and I can say all day that I believer her, but that doesn’t change what the answer is.

The answer is: the first man who makes one of those 3 irreversible mistakes I mentioned above.

It’s all right there in the contract.

Cohabitation, reproduction, marriage = Relationship = contract.

Pay very close attention to the terms of the contract…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Anonymous 42]

Bravo BP! I enjoy reading your posts! Well said! The Leonardo Da’Vinci of articulation! A Smoking hole in the center of gynocentric!
Brain Pilot (Lyrical sharp shooter).

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

@RusskyKGB  LOL….I knew I liked curiosity for some reason   🙂

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I’d tread carefully.  I admit that I’ve found the same kind of woman, but I’m very, VERY leery about it.  She criticizes women quite frequently, but I do know that critique of other women is what women love to do in general.  We just have to be careful that these women are not “chameleons.”  Some argue that ALL women that appear to hate feminism and who support MGTOW are chameleons, and I’m open to that idea as well.  It’s hard to say if it’s just my emotional side feeling “a breath of fresh air” when I hear a woman attack feminism and support MGTOW in a GirlWritesWhat/Feminism LOL-esque manner, but then I start to question it with my logical side.  Just be VERY careful, and of course, don’t marry ’em if it ever got to that point.  Haha

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

She doesn’t care, there’s no benefits for her to care.

1. She wants to prove that she’s “not like other girls.”

2. She’s trying to drag your ass back to the plantation.

For me personally, I never mention mgtow in front of women, what’s the point, you need a cheerleader? Only talk about it with men. But be careful of those manginas  and white knights.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Great advice. When a woman asks what you like and things you care about – give her some bulls~~~ instead.
And then see her reaction. If she tries to pretend that she’s into that bulls~~~ herself – she’s a f~~~ing chameleon.
Research what she was really into before she met you. She might claim she was always like that, but I can bet money she got that way only after you told her about it.

If you like country music and tennis – tell her you like opera and squash. You will see how she’s making it up as you go.
The less info you disclose about yourself at early stages – the better you are shielded from all the pretending and fitting-in bulls~~~

My ex wife pretended to like trance music, experimenting with drugs and going to festivals before we got married. After I signed the marriage contract – she immediately reverted back to pop music, reality TV and celebrity gossip. She even tried to fake an acid trip with me when she probably spit it out. I had no evidence but it was obvious she was sober and I called her out on bulls~~~. Bitches are good actors, beware

Oh yeah – with online dating – never write what you really like. Instead – write in some bulls~~~ like golf, tennis and Rihanna or something. What will happen eventually – you will start seeing single moms who are into golf and tennis and listen to Rihanna all the time. Everything you tell about yourself – will be used against you in one way or another. Not giving straight answers on anything also works wonders – just like PUAs suggest

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[BrokeCollegeStudentParticipant 73]

I appreciate all your advice I got while I was at work. My female-coworker asked me what my opinion was about feminism and the columbia rape case and i told her i don’t support it and she admitted it was a  lie. I told my female co-worker  that and she said she still dosen’t deserve hate like Wtf.  She got p~~~ed cause i showed her a picture. Called me A little ass bitch i kept my mouth shut so i Don’t get fired since im like the Only male in The workplace besides other two  Who Weren’t on

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I can’t thumb @RUSKYKGB up enough for that. Amen to all of it.

Tell a girl on a date you don’t like kitty-cats (even if it’s just an allergy) and she will use it as an excuse not to have sex with you.
You’re being interrogated.

She’s not looking to qualify you.
She is looking to DIS-qualify you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

BrokeCollegeStudent wrote:

I told my female co-worker that and she said she still dosen’t deserve hate like Wtf. She got p~~~ed cause i showed her a picture. Called me A little ass bitch i kept my mouth shut so i Don’t get fired since im like the Only male in The workplace besides other two Who Weren’t on

Well if she acted in that way and you can record or substantiate it, I think you have grounds for “hostile workplace” and I have my doubts any HR person would recommend firing you.

[Anonymous 42]

BrokeCollegeStudent wrote:

im like the Only male in The workplace besides other two Who Weren’t on

I feel truly sorry for you! I’ve never worked under or along side a woman! In fact, I never bargained a contract with a woman, when c~~~jinas handed that responsibility to their wives, my estimates somehow came out pricy, and I didn’t get the job, same for lawyers, they automatically get a 20% increase off the bat, and that’s if I like them! All others that don’t appear to be impossible to please get a reasonable estimate. I Never signed a contract with a woman in my entire life??? Is it me, or my acute sense of foul and unfair persona? I can’t stand being around them, much less work with them!

Quit your job! But only after finding one without women in it.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

BrokeCollegeStudent wrote:

I’ve found a women who hates feminism and supports MGTOW. Should I be worried to start a relationship or be happy since she supports us?

Regardless of who she really is, the law is the law and the law is NOT your friend. Women themselves are irrelevant. Tie yourself to this woman and she only needs to change her mind some day and then you are f~~~ed.

No marriage. No cohabitation. No children. It’s the only way to be sure.

Don’t be surprised if in a few years she decides that she really want to be married embedded in your wallet after all. Very few female doctors are still practicing medicine after ten years. If you avoid that trap don’t be further surprised if she finds some other poor schmuck to marry her instead, because to women one man walking ATM is pretty much interchangeable with any other.

She believes just like me that feminism is basically equal rights + special rights.

Then you’re both not quite there yet.

There is nothing equal about feminism. And feminism has nothing to do with rights. Rights come with responsibilities and feminists will have no truck with that.

Feminism is basically special privileges for women under the pretense of equal rights. While continuing to have men pay for all.

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