Criteria For Censorship from MGTOW

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Caveat

* I don’t think ANYONE should be censored from MGTOW unless they are CLEARLY here for recon purposes.

In light of the x11 “punt” thread, and the threat of censorship, I would like to know:

What is the criteria for being censored from MGTOW?

If were going to have random members trying to silence others, then there must be a criteria for it.

I’m not against much, but what I am for, is stated below.

I’m for:

Freedom of speech
Un-PC vocabulary
All things non “fake book”, “Tinder”, “Snap Chat” approved.

Are members no longer permitted to be sarcastic, humorous, or anything of the sort?

I would like to know, from other members.

God forbid, we joke like men and have ironic humor.

WTF is this world coming to?

Resident cynic.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

He’s not being “censored”. In the last +24 hours we have a flood of complaints and emails. So his privs are merely paused temporarily until can review the s~~~storm and see what’s what.

Yesterday stepped in to see what the f~~~ was going on and was very fair:
/forums/topic/calling-for-punt-of-x11/page/2/#post-657784

Deletion and removal is something else.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Old BuckParticipant 3596]

Things can be taken out if context with social media. The human brain needs more cues to comprehend the emotions of the person speaking, such as visual (facial expressions) and audible (tones of voice).

PBS had a great series on the human mind and interactions with others. It really explained the downfall of social media. Not enough info is given to the brain to truly comprehend what the writer is conveying.

Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

First people to censored shall be those whom create topics titled “Criteria For Censorship from MGTOW” or anything in resemblance to that.

Don't care

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Keymaster wrote:

He’s not being “censored”. His posting privileges were given to him…. and in the last +24 hours we have

KM,

I didn’t even know you were involved in this, and my thread here was not intended for you. I know you have a ton to deal with, and wasn’t trying to bother you with this.

Sincerely, I know you have a ton to deal with and I was expressing myself to other members of the community. This post wasn’t directed to you…

My post was, rather, for the other members of the community who have voiced their opinion on this matter, because it is their opinions which I have read, NOT yours.

I know this is your site, and you have a lot on your hands. I wanted to express myself to other members of the community who have shared their opinions.

I’m not attempting to persuade or dissuade you one way or the other, or bother you at all.
My post was intended for other members of the community, whom I have read their opinions.

Resident cynic.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

OneTrueMisfit wrote:

First people to censored shall be those whom create topics titled “Criteria For Censorship from MGTOW” or anything in resemblance to that.

Brilliant!

I was asking a question based on someone else’s request to censor someone.

You’re reply is classic! Circular reasoning.

Resident cynic.

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

I personally don’t like censorship but if a person is here basically solely to disrupt then what is the point of keeping them around?

For instance:

If I replied to every topic night and day simply saying “f~~~ you” “f~~~ you”. What purpose am I f~~~in serving? No one here does that, I’m exaggerating but still you get the point.

There has to come a point to when someone says to that individual “no, f~~~ you and goodbye” and their ass gets booted.

Don't care

[bstoffParticipant 4867]

I’ve seen a few instances of people deliberately trying to p~~~ people off for obvious malicious reasons.
That’s wrong, but it’s going to be impossible to keep track of all of the slights put out that offend people.

Some are more easily offended than others,
and some are more offensive than others.

It’s best to just ignore the assholes in my humble opinion.
Scroll on….
P.S. No f~~~s given!

[Old BuckParticipant 3596]

Thank you KM, it sounds very fair. I can sometimes be stupid as well, like the twerkey post.

Hind sight is 20/20.

Giving X11 a chance to grow is key, maybe he hasn’t had that opportunity elsewhere. Let’s hope he can learn and grow from this experience.

And others can look and learn as well.

Smart man learns from his mistakes, a wise man can learn from others…

Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

OneTrueMisfit wrote:

but if a person is here basically solely to disrupt

Again,

What is the criteria for “solely to disrupt”?

You haven’t answered my question.

And then this:

OneTrueMisfit wrote:

First people to censored shall be those whom create topics titled “Criteria For Censorship from MGTOW” or anything in resemblance to that.

Oh, so *I* should be censored for questioning the question?

Ingenious.

How long have you been on this site and what’s your background?

You really sound like an independent thinker =/

Resident cynic.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I didn’t even know you were involved in this

I didn’t take it personally (promise!), but I thought I should step in here to buffer. That’s all. Thank you for being conscientious.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

First comment from me was jokingly second one more seriously. Yes the criteria for disruption is somewhat subjective. When lots of people complain? Things need to be weighed and balanced and that is for the judge to decide.

Don't care

[Old BuckParticipant 3596]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Onetruemisfit wrote:
First people to censored shall be those whom create topics titled “Criteria For Censorship from MGTOW” or anything in resemblance to that.

Oh, so *I* should be censored for questioning the question?

Ingenious.

That is tongue in cheek humor from misfit 🙂

One of the first things I learned here. Men make fun of each other, but don’t mean it. Women compliment each other and don’t mean it.

Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

This is hilarious.

I’m advocating for two things:

1. Freedom of Speech
2. A Clear & Basic Criteria for Censorship

I didn’t say x11 was “censored”, and I’m not blaming Key Master – I love KM and this site. This post has nothing to do with KM and as far as I know x11 wasn’t censored.

My thread has everything to do with a REQUEST for censorship; and thus the criteria request.

Simple as that.

Resident cynic.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Keymaster wrote:

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I didn’t even know you were involved in this

I didn’t take it personally (promise!), but I thought I should step in here to buffer. That’s all. Thank you for being conscientious.

I realize this entire situation is a pain in the a$$ for any forum moderator. And I’m sorry to have contributed to it on a nice night, like tonight.

Didn’t mean to disturb you.

I love your site, your posts. and everything you do.

Have a good evening.

Resident cynic.

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I’m advocating for two things:

1. Freedom of Speech
2. A Clear & Basic Criteria for Censorship

AncientWisdom – this is a genuine question for discussion not a criticism:

Wouldn’t having Clear and Basic Criteria for Censorship be going against the principles of Freedom of Speech?

i.e. Any form of censorship limits freedom of speech.

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

I’m sure death threats won’t be tolerated. You could bitch about that all you want but it’s common sense.

Don't care

[DocParticipant]

Are you talking about SPECIFIC criteria

Like

1. No calling people names that people on the whole find offensive. Like F~~~~~, c~~~ sucker etc.
Unless you are familiar enough with the person you say it to you know that they won’t take offence.

2. Don’t tell people to go and….suck dick etc.
Unless- see above.

I don’t even know.
The more I type the more it’s seems too censored already.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

bstoff wrote:

people

That’s important. It’s not just one person.

I don’t know why, but lately I’ve been seeing a rash of various members who want to argue specifically against other members instead of disputing what they say, and who can’t seem to leave stuff from one thread inside that thread alone, but instead spread it around the board as a whole.

I don’t know why the f~~~ that’s been going on so much in the past few days, but people need to knock that s~~~ off.

If you (and I mean a general “you” to the whole forums here, @bstoffers, not you specifically – I completely agree with what you’re saying) disagree with what another man has to say in a thread, argue the point with him (using facts and reason, preferably) in that thread. Don’t drag that argument into other completely unrelated threads.

And if you have a problem with another member here personally, hash it out with him in private messages. Or don’t. Just don’t spread your grudges all over the forums.

tl;dr: Can we please quit all the petty interpersonal bickering and get back to being “short ugly sexist bitter virgin misogynist losers who will never get laid etc.”?

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22535]

OneTrueMisfit wrote:

personally don’t like censorship but if a person is here basically solely to disrupt then what is the point of keeping them around?

For instance:

If I replied to every topic night and day simply saying “f~~~ you” “f~~~ you”. What purpose am I f~~~in serving? No one here does that, I’m exaggerating but still you get the point.

And this is exactly the point. And for people to equate this kind of deliberate confrontational attitude that does NOTHING to help whatever is attempting to be discussed, with “just joking around” is trying to severely downplay the s~~~ whatever the chaosmaker is doing just because he can and wants to disrupt the site.

The analogy posted yesterday about what to do with the asshole that comes to your house party and beats people up, swears at them, and s~~~s in the pool, you don’t have to put up with that and then be insulted you’re not letting him be himself. That is bulls~~~. That is what women do, blame shifting and guilt shaming the person they’ve just shat on for complaining he’s been s~~~ upon.

You can’t play the victim card after you’ve p~~~ed in the punchbowl and are upset people are unhappy and don’t care for the excuse “it’s just me being me.”

No one prevents anyone here from posting anything. They get to post whatever they want. But they have to f~~~ing man up and accept that there may be negative consequences to p~~~ing off lots of people, disrupting threads, and admitting they like to disrupt stuff on purpose because they enjoy it.

/mic drop

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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