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Wow that must be some awesome 1911 if it is the price of a thermal scope. The thermal scopes I have been looking at are about $5000. Maybe thermal things are priced lower in the US? Most good things seem to cost less there.I think those large magazine shotguns are really cheap second hand here because you have to hold it on a firearms certificate not a normal shot gun certificate (yeah I know it seems to make no logical sense) and so when someone comes to sell, there are only a few buyers at that time who both have permission for one and also have not yet bought one. So I was thinking that some time I will get a good second hand one when I next am writing to the police about guns. (Its not worth all the hoop jumping unless I am writing anyway). I don’t do much with shot guns but a fully modern shotgun is a great piece of kit and so I would like one. The pigeons would be getting a surprise! So Mossberg is a good make. Thanks. Shotguns are really not my game and I don’t know much.
“Hey Branch-off, leave those pigeons alone”
“……..all in all you’re just a ‘nother dick in the wall……..”
Dick in your hole more like…..
Sounds like a great ammunition deal. 10mm can’t be the cheapest calibre either.
Here the laws are predictably complicated with ammunition. It was only this year that they unbanned expanding ammunition for shooting deer. before it was banned but they gave you it as an exemption (which made complete sense to someone I am sure).
You can have as much shotgun ammunition as you like and you can store it how you like so long as it is “safe” but this is not defined by law so I have gone to clients houses and found shotgun ammunition boxes used as door stops, though you won’t find it doing that in my house. So buy as much as you like on line is the way. I think they need a photocopy of your shot gun certificate but that was all the on line retailer asked last time I bought any.
Rifle ammunition, that is different. It must be locked in an ammunition safe and if the old bill come round and inspect your safe and find more ammunition in it than they wrote on your certificate that you were allowed to possess they will not be happy. So for example one might be allowed 1400 rounds of 0.22lr but only 250 rounds of 0.308 but then someone in the same street who they think does not need as much might be only allowed 200 0.22lr and someone who bought batches to shoot at top level competition might be allowed 10000. rimfire ammunition is a pain because you have to buy it from a shop. Centerfire ammunition is easier once you learn to make your own because components are not restricted. So you can buy a good batch of your favourite bullets on line and a good set of brass and enough of the same powder batch, work up your ideal load and then just load then in small batches as and when needed. I bought a lot of bullets in anticipation of them being hard to get or expensive after Brexit (I like german bullets and wanted a decent batch to make sure they were all similar) but now I am starting to fear they will not even give us the Brexit we voted for.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
But they are flying rats colin and they are a good deal tastier than ground rats too. Have you never eaten wood pigeon breast?
No, and I never will. Beautiful and misunderstood creatures.
“Misunderstood”……????……. They’re f~~~ing pigeons, man.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Bland pheasant? most folk seem to describe pheasant as a strong taste but it does depend on how long you hang them. I am not a hooray henry so I don’t eat pheasant that much but the odd lead shot is still part of the experience. I gather these days they don’t sell them when they have been shot in my local shops and the market any more. More silly liberal laws about food safety.
But surely you eat chicken Colin? and chickens have a terrible life compared to pigeons. Pigeons have a happy wild life and then a quick death if they are shot. Surely you would choose such a life over the life and death of a broiler chicken?
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
Bland pheasant? most folk seem to describe pheasant as a strong taste but it does depend on how long you hang them. I am not a hooray henry so I don’t eat pheasant that much but the odd lead shot is still part of the experience. I gather these days they don’t sell them when they have been shot in my local shops and the market any more. More silly liberal laws about food safety.
But surely you eat chicken Colin? and chickens have a terrible life compared to pigeons. Pigeons have a happy wild life and then a quick death if they are shot. Surely you would choose such a life over the life and death of a broiler chicken?With regret, I do. Perhaps if I got to know a chicken(s) on a personal level then I would refrain.
But they are flying rats colin and they are a good deal tastier than ground rats too. Have you never eaten wood pigeon breast?
No, and I never will. Beautiful and misunderstood creatures.
“Misunderstood”……????……. They’re f~~~ing pigeons, man.
NO, they are more than vermin. This cannot be said of the worst vermin of all, those two legged specimens.
Honestly vermin is whatever creature bugs people. The animals that are usually the most adaptable and smart make the best vermin -foxes, squirrels, magpies and deer being classic examples. These are all animals really easy to identify with and like. They are also serious pests causing a lot of expensive damage. Resources are a zero sum game and where one draws the line between an acceptable loss to nature and an unacceptable loss is open for debate but that fact that there will be cases where animals will not be tolerated doing stuff to people’s resources is beyond doubt and people need to accept that and embrace the side of their nature that kills competitor species not try to white wash things.
If you grow grain crops pigeons are a major loss of revenue and if you store grain their salmonella infected excrement is a heath hazard to the human food chain.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
A pigeon William Shatner.
Sounds like a great ammunition deal. 10mm can’t be the cheapest calibre either.
Here the laws are predictably complicated with ammunition. It was only this year that they unbanned expanding ammunition for shooting deer. before it was banned but they gave you it as an exemption (which made complete sense to someone I am sure).
You can have as much shotgun ammunition as you like and you can store it how you like so long as it is “safe” but this is not defined by law so I have gone to clients houses and found shotgun ammunition boxes used as door stops, though you won’t find it doing that in my house. So buy as much as you like on line is the way. I think they need a photocopy of your shot gun certificate but that was all the on line retailer asked last time I bought any.
Rifle ammunition, that is different. It must be locked in an ammunition safe and if the old bill come round and inspect your safe and find more ammunition in it than they wrote on your certificate that you were allowed to possess they will not be happy. So for example one might be allowed 1400 rounds of 0.22lr but only 250 rounds of 0.308 but then someone in the same street who they think does not need as much might be only allowed 200 0.22lr and someone who bought batches to shoot at top level competition might be allowed 10000. rimfire ammunition is a pain because you have to buy it from a shop. Centerfire ammunition is easier once you learn to make your own because components are not restricted. So you can buy a good batch of your favourite bullets on line and a good set of brass and enough of the same powder batch, work up your ideal load and then just load then in small batches as and when needed. I bought a lot of bullets in anticipation of them being hard to get or expensive after Brexit (I like german bullets and wanted a decent batch to make sure they were all similar) but now I am starting to fear they will not even give us the Brexit we voted for.No, 10mm is one of the most expensive of course, wouldn’t you know, since I like the large calibers and powerful rounds. I get a lot of criticism from fellow shooters due to my appreciation of the .45 ACP, .44 magnum and 10mm. They always try to convince me to shoot 9mm because it’s readily available and cheap and also because being a lighter load and subsequent recoil, you can more easily reacquire your target between shots………..and of course being smaller, many magazines can hold around 20 rounds of 9mm. I understand the appeal and why virtually everyone but me owns at least one 9mm handgun, but I have enough different calibers and don’t like the thought of having another. I just recently relieved myself of ever having to buy anymore .357 magnum as I sold my lever action to my shooting buddy.
I still have too many different calibers in my opinion, but can’t bare to part with the weapons I have left. 7.62×39 – rifle, 5.56×45 – rifle and .22 – rifle. The rest are handguns: .45 ACP, .44 magnum, 10mm and .38 Special. I keep telling myself that each weapon has a special purpose. LOL Really though, my practicality keeps moving me to get rid of all but one rifle and one handgun and become very proficient with each. They’re all too fun to shoot for me to get rid of, unlike the .357 magnum lever rifle I sold. I became far too spoiled by the semi automatic rifles. The last time I shot my lever action, I just hated it. Probably should’ve kept it, but oh well. I think I got a relatively fair price for it.
You’re telling me the cops have the authority to randomly search your home for weapons and ammunition? That’s insane, man! Plus the bulls~~~ of not being consistent with how many rounds an individual can have is equally unbelievable.
At one time I was very close to buying some reloading equipment, but I’m glad I didn’t waste my money on it. I know that I would’ve become bored with it and probably just give it away. My shooting buddy has been reloading for years, but he’s been getting tired of it and has been buying factory ammunition.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Honestly vermin is whatever creature bugs people. The animals that are usually the most adaptable and smart make the best vermin -foxes, squirrels, magpies and deer being classic examples. These are all animals really easy to identify with and like. They are also serious pests causing a lot of expensive damage. Resources are a zero sum game and where one draws the line between an acceptable loss to nature and an unacceptable loss is open for debate but that fact that there will be cases where animals will not be tolerated doing stuff to people’s resources is beyond doubt and people need to accept that and embrace the side of their nature that kills competitor species not try to white wash things.
If you grow grain crops pigeons are a major loss of revenue and if you store grain their salmonella infected excrement is a heath hazard to the human food chain.Do you endorse Fox hunting?
I think people forget(or don’t care) that we are encroaching their habitat, not the other way around. Infact, as we constantly destroy animals environment, is it any wonder they tread into urban areas….Bland pheasant? most folk seem to describe pheasant as a strong taste but it does depend on how long you hang them. I am not a hooray henry so I don’t eat pheasant that much but the odd lead shot is still part of the experience. I gather these days they don’t sell them when they have been shot in my local shops and the market any more. More silly liberal laws about food safety.
But surely you eat chicken Colin? and chickens have a terrible life compared to pigeons. Pigeons have a happy wild life and then a quick death if they are shot. Surely you would choose such a life over the life and death of a broiler chicken?Bland and dry to me. I much prefer the tasty quail. The legs are of course very small on a quail, but my dad would still cut and clean them to fry in the cast iron skillet. I hear most people discard the legs and eat the breast only. What a waste.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Bland pheasant? most folk seem to describe pheasant as a strong taste but it does depend on how long you hang them. I am not a hooray henry so I don’t eat pheasant that much but the odd lead shot is still part of the experience. I gather these days they don’t sell them when they have been shot in my local shops and the market any more. More silly liberal laws about food safety.But surely you eat chicken Colin? and chickens have a terrible life compared to pigeons. Pigeons have a happy wild life and then a quick death if they are shot. Surely you would choose such a life over the life and death of a broiler chicken?
With regret, I do. Perhaps if I got to know a chicken(s) on a personal level then I would refrain.
Chickens are just as personable as ducks and geese. How dare you eat chickens, you f~~~ing cruel bastard! Cows are equally so, but you gorge yourself on beef, you hypocritical piece of s~~~! You eat pork as well? You ever pet a pig? You’re an evil creature.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Honestly vermin is whatever creature bugs people. The animals that are usually the most adaptable and smart make the best vermin -foxes, squirrels, magpies and deer being classic examples. These are all animals really easy to identify with and like. They are also serious pests causing a lot of expensive damage. Resources are a zero sum game and where one draws the line between an acceptable loss to nature and an unacceptable loss is open for debate but that fact that there will be cases where animals will not be tolerated doing stuff to people’s resources is beyond doubt and people need to accept that and embrace the side of their nature that kills competitor species not try to white wash things.If you grow grain crops pigeons are a major loss of revenue and if you store grain their salmonella infected excrement is a heath hazard to the human food chain.
Do you endorse Fox hunting? I think people forget(or don’t care) that we are encroaching their habitat, not the other way around. Infact, as we constantly destroy animals environment, is it any wonder they tread into urban areas….
Man has dominion over animals for a reason. I have a couple foxes run around my property and I like watching them, but if I were to ever keep chickens as I wold like, I’d probably be forced to shoot the foxes that would encroach on my property to kill and eat my poor chickens. Why do you hate chickens so much, Colin?
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Bland pheasant? most folk seem to describe pheasant as a strong taste but it does depend on how long you hang them. I am not a hooray henry so I don’t eat pheasant that much but the odd lead shot is still part of the experience. I gather these days they don’t sell them when they have been shot in my local shops and the market any more. More silly liberal laws about food safety.But surely you eat chicken Colin? and chickens have a terrible life compared to pigeons. Pigeons have a happy wild life and then a quick death if they are shot. Surely you would choose such a life over the life and death of a broiler chicken?
With regret, I do. Perhaps if I got to know a chicken(s) on a personal level then I would refrain.
Chickens are just as personable as ducks and geese. How dare you eat chickens, you f~~~ing cruel bastard! Cows are equally so, but you gorge yourself on beef, you hypocritical piece of s~~~! You eat pork as well? You ever pet a pig? You’re an evil creature.
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I have already confessed to the man in the box.
I need to get to know a chicken on a one to one level before I make a concerted decision to not devour his kin.Honestly vermin is whatever creature bugs people. The animals that are usually the most adaptable and smart make the best vermin -foxes, squirrels, magpies and deer being classic examples. These are all animals really easy to identify with and like. They are also serious pests causing a lot of expensive damage. Resources are a zero sum game and where one draws the line between an acceptable loss to nature and an unacceptable loss is open for debate but that fact that there will be cases where animals will not be tolerated doing stuff to people’s resources is beyond doubt and people need to accept that and embrace the side of their nature that kills competitor species not try to white wash things.If you grow grain crops pigeons are a major loss of revenue and if you store grain their salmonella infected excrement is a heath hazard to the human food chain.
Do you endorse Fox hunting? I think people forget(or don’t care) that we are encroaching their habitat, not the other way around. Infact, as we constantly destroy animals environment, is it any wonder they tread into urban areas….
Man has dominion over animals for a reason. I have a couple foxes run around my property and I like watching them, but if I were to ever keep chickens as I wold like, I’d probably be forced to shoot the foxes that would encroach on my property to kill and eat my poor chickens. Why do you hate chickens so much, Colin?
I don’t know any chickens to hate them. I need to get to know them.
A chicken Babe Ruth.
Colin, I think that our interactions with animals show up the limitations of humanity. We are a creature with the capacity for empathy beyond our own family circle and beyond even our species. This is a great strength but it can also go to extremes that are simplistic and childish and don’t help us, sometimes even don’t help animals. The fact that you may make friends with a fox in your garden means you won’t be shooting him unless he turns on you or your chickens. You might even forgive him the odd chicken. That doesn’t however mean you should make friends with all foxes and say no human is allowed to shoot a fox. Foxes can be a serious pest in some situations. One has to see the limits of humanity.
We are indeed in the territory of animals and there is no place at all in the UK where the habitat is not altered by man. This does make me sad inside. However it is what it is now and we have to regulate the environment now since we can’t turn back the clock. (Personally I would like to see Scotland re-wilded in parted -bears, lynx and wolves could control the animals in such areas and we couold let the wild forest return to the bland green hills but I can’t see the Jocks going for being our safari park can you?) No wolves means deer and also foxes proliferate greatly (wolves will kill smaller carnivores as they are competition).
Do I support fox hunting -we need to clarify for our colonial cousins that “fox hunting” here means Hooray Henries on horses with a pack of dogs chasing foxes across the land and chewing it all up as they go (banned by bloody lefties but still done supposedly in a way that the hounds don’t actually catch foxes any more but of course they do) What an American might call fox hunting where a man goes out with a rifle and shoots foxes is “shooting foxes” here. I don’t have the money to ride Colin. I have never hunted. Fox hunting is the most ridiculously expensive way to kill a fox imaginable. But I gather from a former lover and from the daughters of squires that I once taught that it is great fun. These females seemed to enthuse about the social scene and the fact that you had the freedom to charge all over the fields “like you were flying in the film Avatar”. What they wore and what their rivals wore was probably more important than if they ever caught a fox. Would I let the local hunt on my land? If it got my daughters to go to the hunt ball yes I would. They might marry a rich bugger. Otherwise no they can keep out because they do cause quite a lot of damage. Do I shoot foxes -yes. I feel a bit sorry for them when I see them dead. They look so like dogs but they are not like dogs, they are foxes.
I think it is important to have sympathy for animals. I actually keep a corner that is completely wild. No gun is fired there and no steel is taken to a tree. To lose the animals would be a great loss. But we too are animals competing for resources and will you give up your niche in the world for animals? The campaigners all want someone else to give up their interests.
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I love animals, most all animals. I grew up on a farm and I used to pet the cows. I wouldn’t have the heart to shoot one of the cows I pet and eat it, but that doesn’t stop me from eating steaks and burgers.
I don’t agree with “hunting for sport”. So I don’t like the dressy fox hunts you’re talking about. I do agree with killing animals for necessity. Hunting an animal that you will eat is ethical. Killing an animal that is a pest is ethical. As I said before, I wouldn’t want to shoot a fox, but if he’s killing my chickens, I would reluctantly shoot him. I have no chickens currently so the foxes roam free through my yard. I see them all the time.
I like to watch the deer roam about my property, but if I liked to eat venison, I would harvest many of those deer. We are lousy with deer here and they pose a danger to people on the road. I believe it’s unethical to “trophy hunt” which is a type of sport hunting. If a guy just wants to shoot a big buck so he can hang its head on his wall, that’s wrong in my eyes. If he will eat the meat of the deer as well as hang the head, then that’s fine.
Possums and armadillos are nasty varmints so I shoot them on site. The armadillos go around digging holes in my yard and they carry disease and possums will get into people’s dog food and destroy property so they’re “fair game” as well. The damn raccoons will eat all of the bird seed I set out for the wild birds, but I still won’t shoot them. It’s hard to look a raccoon in the face and shoot him. I do go out and whack them with a broom when I catch them, but they just come back later and eat up all my bird seed, the bastards. If they eat too much I may wind up shooting one. My son shot one that was getting into his dog food. He was pretty proud of having rid his family of a pest and rightfully so.
Hunting certain animals, if you plan on using the meat, is also good for that species. If left to continuously populate without thinning them out through hunting, deer will overpopulate and run out of food and get sick and spread disease throughout the rest of the species. Hunting deer is good for the deer as well as for man. Same as for fish. If you don’t thin them out through fishing, the fish will overpopulate a lake and run out of food and will continually get smaller and smaller. If people are allowed to fish that body of water, the fish will get larger. I live near a lake where there was an abundance of crappie, but most of them you would catch were very small. It was hard to find any big ones. The creel limit was set to low so when they raised the creel so people could legally catch and keep more, the fish started getting bigger.
It is ok to hunt and fish if you have respect for the animals and you plan on using them in an ethical way. The big trophy hunters, like the ones who shoot lions just so they can say that they killed a lion are not ethical. If those lions are coming on their property and killing their livestock, then that’s different.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Hi Hermit,
Sounds to me like you have thought it all out pretty coherently.I agree that a degree of predation is very healthy for all populations. It aids natural selection and insures there are enough resources for all. It probably would be for humans too except we don’t have any predators any more and so we are turning more homosexual and transsexual, weak minded and easily triggered. I think we are going to really suffer the effects of over breeding and overpopulation if we do not have some serious plagues or wars soon.
I don’t think the police can actually force you to let them check out your gun and ammunition storage unless they have a warrant (and they will get one easily if they want because people are terrified of guns). What they do is turn up unexpected at your door and ask to see your guns. You can say no. But if you say no will they be renewing your certificate when it next comes up for renewal? It would seem quite a remote possibility.
The quantities of ammunition thing is a little odd. They justify it as being that one has to have a good reason for a firearm in British law and so one also has to show he needs a given quantity of ammunition.
Another bizzare thing to amuse you is that you need a special permit to buy black powder but not to buy smokeless powder (which actually anyone can do whether or not they have a gun license!) Back when I was a boy I liked black powder guns (because I liked history and westerns). I had a gun license, got some antique guns put on it and I applied for a black powder permit just to try the old guns out and asked to buy 0.5kg of black powder. A nice police man came round and said I could have the powder but I had to first ask for more because they had a policy that they always gave you less than you asked for and the tubs sold were 0.5 kg. All made good sense to someone in an office somewhere!
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
Another bizzare thing to amuse you is that you need a special permit to buy black powder but not to buy smokeless powder (which actually anyone can do whether or not they have a gun license!)
Countries and their stupid laws. It’s the opposite here. Here, if you have a felony, you can’t own a regular firearm, but you can own a black powder firearm.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
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