Breaking up.

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Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

The genesis 3 curse on women was partially mistranslated in most versions of the bible. The correct last part is: “Your desire will be to rule over your husband, but he will rule over you.” Most bibles incorrectly say “your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” This was to be a curse. Which one from a womans perspective, and also the context of what she did, seems to be a more accurate translation?

I have read this verse but had no idea about the mistranslation. I will do some more research now. Thanks for sharing this. It makes a lot of sense.

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Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

From that point on, nothing works out well between men and women and this gynocentric society we are in has just made it exponentially worse. And of course – mens fault. No surprises there.

The Bible is spot on. We were never supposed to live in harmony as we would like to think. This really helps a lot, bro. This helps me more than anything else in this thread.

[KaidoParticipant 2395]

I find what helps “evolving” is thinking very gross things about them and their flaws. Alot of people have told me Im crazy for thinking this while others have simply laughed. Think of things that turn you off. Anything from their monthly periods, to bodily functions (they are human) and nasty smells etc etc etc. I am so disappointed with them I literally feel nothing anymore. Not even a spark. All the best brother.

What people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle. Rise above. Focus on science.

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Kaido wrote:

I find what helps “evolving” is thinking very gross things about them and their flaws. Alot of people have told me Im crazy for thinking this while others have simply laughed. Think of things that turn you off. Anything from their monthly periods, to bodily functions (they are human) and nasty smells etc etc etc. I am so disappointed with them I literally feel nothing anymore. Not even a spark. All the best brother.

Thanks Kaido.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Gambit

Habibi

You are not weak .

You are just a decent person trying to do the decent thing .

Me on the other hand, i have dumped women like hot potatoes .

Ghosted on them because i dont want to deal with the drama .

i would not debate with you that this isnt immaturity on my part .

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

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MgtowWave wrote:

Gambit

Habibi

You are not weak .

You are just a decent person trying to do the decent thing .

Me on the other hand, i have dumped women like hot potatoes .

Ghosted on them because i dont want to deal with the drama .

i would not debate with you that this isnt immaturity on my part .

I appreciate your kind words and honesty.

[Anonymous 6]

@gambit, check the next thread down, i left you something

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Anonymous wrote:

@gambit, check the next thread down, i left you something

Thanks, bro. I appreciate that a lot. Glad you’re here, man.

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ghost wrote:

DocDJ wrote:

Treat as treated.

Probably should have done that but oh well. I’m done with all of it now.

Live and Learn my friend. You have acted honorably which is more thsn I did.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

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Doc wrote:

You have acted honorably

Thanks. I just don’t think it’s worth dropping myself down to someone else’s level. I always try and maintain honor. I hate myself for it later but it probably helps me more in the long-run in terms of other aspects of my life.

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A strong man keeps his honor. To not bow to the evils others do and act in the same way is virtuous.

I’m a hypocrite because I espouse it but often haven’t followed it. I try however.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

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Well, originally we were made to live in harmony. Free will though, means one can pick the wrong way to go. Otherwise it’s not free will.

And I have seen people say that its Gods fault because He knew this was going to happen. Doesn’t mean He wanted it to.

If its His fault then anytime we have decdied to not stop a guy we know making a horrible decision we know is going to end up badly, then we are to blame for his situation. Knowing something is going to end badly doesn’t mean we are responsible for it ending badly.

And in God’s case, at least He provided a solution for us. At a very high expense to Himself. More than we can do for a guy we let get married, for example.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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Look, if it’s over, it’s over.

What is the point. Why be friends. You will just be a resource/emotional tampon without sex.

Sex was the only thing she brought to the table. That’s gone.

Women do not hang around men that they do not find useful. If they can get you to do stuff without sex or paying their half, …

Hard to know why I have to explain this.

If anything, treat them like a guy who seriously wronged you big time, that you have no intention of ever seeing again. At least you are treating them equally according to whatever code you follow.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Look, if it’s over, it’s over.

100%.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

What is the point. Why be friends. You will just be a resource/emotional tampon without sex.

Not interested and never was interested in friendship.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Sex was the only thing she brought to the table. That’s gone.

I wasn’t actually having sex with this person. I tried a different approach and it failed too.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Hard to know why I have to explain this.

I was just a little upset at how she handled everything. That’s all. I went by a few places we used to frequent and got reminded of things. That’s how it all started.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22538]

I actually was responding to mgtowwave’s comments on this one, wasn’t taking you to task. Just so you know. I know sometimes given how the posts appear often unless you pull quotes you are unsure of who is replying to whom. Sorry about the confusion. 🙂

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

I actually was responding to mgtowwave’s comments on this one, wasn’t taking you to task. Just so you know. I know sometimes given how the posts appear often unless you pull quotes you are unsure of who is replying to whom. Sorry about the confusion. 🙂

No worries, bro. I appreciate all of your insight and comments tonight.

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

Hey Gambit, I’m sorry you’re feeling low right now… but I know it’s going to pass. Stay strong, man. Wear your scars with pride.

I wanted to chime in on the Genesis curse of Eve as well. I’ve done some research on that passage as well and I’m persuaded that the accurate meaning was that Eve was going to try to rule over her husband. The more inaccurate translation has even led to some women question how was this part even a curse… because aren’t wives supposed to desire their husbands? Well, you only realize how it is a curse once you translate it accurately. Harmonious marriages are impossible apart from supernatural intervention.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

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Silver Fox wrote:

Hey Gambit, I’m sorry you’re feeling low right now… but I know it’s going to pass. Stay strong, man. Wear your scars with pride.

Thanks, Silver Fox, I appreciate it brother.

Silver Fox wrote:

I wanted to chime in on the Genesis curse of Eve as well. I’ve done some research on that passage as well and I’m persuaded that the accurate meaning was that Eve was going to try to rule over her husband. The more inaccurate translation has even led to some women question how was this part even a curse… because aren’t wives supposed to desire their husbands? Well, you only realize how it is a curse once you translate it accurately. Harmonious marriages are impossible apart from supernatural intervention.

Correct, but what about the following?

In the New Testament, God affirms His ideal relationship between man and woman in marriage. Christ-like qualities are emphasized. What the curse of sin created, believers in Christ are called to correct by living according to God’s Spirit. Ephesians 5 says that the wife should willingly submit to her husband’s authority in the home, in essence, refusing to scratch the curse-fueled itch to seize control (verses 22-24). Husbands are to love their wives unconditionally and sacrificially, just as Christ loves the Church (verses 25-30). The whole passage begins with an emphasis on mutual submission to one another: “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ” (verse 21).

From the beginning, God’s focus has been love and respect between husband and wife. Though sin has tainted the original beauty of this relationship, God commands believers in Christ to pursue this ideal relationship between husband and wife, an ideal perfectly illustrated in Christ’s relationship with the Church.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22538]

Yeah the NT does say that.

But in practice, are you going to love a woman who is constantly arguing and not submitting to your decisions and recognizing you as head of the house? No.

The bible talks about the characteristics of women that would be good wives, and characteristics of women men should avoid/flee from. Modern women possess all the traits the bible says of women to avoid.

Personally to me men going mgtow are applying the biblical principles of selectivity in mates. If there are no good ones around, you don’t mate.

The apostle Paul had good reason to write about staying single if you were able to.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

But in practice, are you going to love a woman who is constantly arguing and not submitting to your decisions and recognizing you as head of the house? No.

Affirmative.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Modern women possess all the traits the bible says of women to avoid.

True.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Personally to me men going mgtow are applying the biblical principles of selectivity in mates. If there are no good ones around, you don’t mate.

100%.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

The apostle Paul had good reason to write about staying single if you were able to.

Great example.

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