Bets on Gov Shutdown

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

JB Books wrote:

I know this much:
1. Trump will beat them over the head during his State of the Union address – and –

Trump has been disinvited from giving his SOTU address to congress. Congress and most importantly the House Speaker won’t sign on for it. The best he can so is give it from the oval office or hand deliver it. But he won’t be doing it in front of congress.

Too many people forget the constitution give congress more power than the president has OFFICIALLY and with the houses divided and Republican senators beginning to balk, Trump is in bad territory.

I don’t care about any president, but if he couldn’t get a wall funded with a majority Republica congress, he’s not gonna get it now. This is HIS SHUTDOWN, just like he said. He owns it.
Ironically even the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY is shut down because of this craziness. Now would not be a good time to fly.

The president is not helping the country, he’s not winning, he’s putting Americans in danger and dammit the man is definitely sucking Putins dick. I don’t know how any red blooded “American” can watch this and support it.

If Obama or Clinton or even George Bush did any of this the American people wouldn’t stand for it and call them all to account or traitors.

We are truly in an age of Bible prophecy..

“In the last days, men… Will not be open to ANY AGREEMENT…”
2 Timothy 3:1-7

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

So just keep going along with more laws like VAWA and other s~~~ for the good and SAFETY of the People? More gun rights being taken away?

All to keep the machine going?

You have to think shillz, what did people do BEFORE THE TSA? They had private security firms do bag checks. What did Homeland security do BEFORE they were around? Was the FBI, CIA, not able to do the job?

Have the TSA EVER been able to find “Planted Drill Bombs” ?

Do you really know what would happen if another attack like a bomb going off in the sky would really do? They would find out who, they would find out where it came from, find the people in the usa that worked with them, or the group (say Islamic terrorist group, or PETA) and knock them all out of existence like Japan did.

You say safety, but you are dealing with people that are okay with cops being shot and killed in the name of diversity? That last guy was from my Home Island of FiJi.

So what on earth is good about giving in? Trump wants a STUPID FENCE BUILT. That’s basically all it is. And THIS IS TO MUCH? Think about that LONG and CLEAR.

What reasons do they give on why its a bad idea when it benefits every working man in the USA?

People keep forgetting that trump caved last time about VAWA. He did not want to sign it. But he did. So if democrats are not willing to budge anywhere, then f~~~ it!

Thanks to always caving in, OUR LIVES ARE S~~~! Hell, the MRM has been Caving in for years! Look where that got them!

These people pretend they are needed. THEY ARE NOT! Computers can replace government workers in 30 days if need be in MASS. Almost all of the ADMIN crap is SOLELY to keep the Big democratic monster going.

Like it or not, if people don’t want long lines, then hire private security. Take private jets etc. The market will correct itself.

And the TSA is BULLS~~~! Do you know how many items they go out of their way to steal or damage? These people get paid really well, and still!

And when s~~~ gets Damaged by them, They just say” FILE AN ONLINE COMPLAINT HERE:

Well, How about turning security like that as well!

There is an EASY solution to the TSA problem. And that problem is luggage. Fix that? people can get on planes again like they were taxi cars!

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[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

@imickey503,

You make a lot of good points. Like I said we are definitely in unprecedented territory here.

Heres one more thought for you. Trump doesn’t know HOW to back down. But in his situation he can’t just run to another contractor or “fire” congress. The dems can only use this to continue to paint him poorly and he doesn’t care.

Eventually people will see that. This is an interesting stalemate. It does however prove that Trump doesn’t know how to make deals at all…

And one final thought, I still don’t understand how a guy like him has convinwhis base that he cares about them. Do you know anything about NYC Real estate? It’s a mafia out here. These guys are thugs! And Trump is one of them.

I guess we’ll have to sit back and wait and see. I’m just waiting for the whole system to implode and take all this entire system down with it.

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

One final point is this. The wall WON’T WORK. The Great wall of China didn’t keep the Mongols out. So the stupid wall of Trump won’t keep persistent illegals out either. You can go UNDER, OVER, AROUND AND THROUGH WALLS.

Common sense should tell you this is a failed plan. A republican majority couldn’t do it! And now he wants TAX PAYERS! Us! To fund it? With ZERO PLAN to force another nation to pay for it? Some phony trade deal that Noone has seen?

Trump is a liar, a schister and a bad business man! He’s bankrupted so many business and robbed his workers of millions. These are verifiable FACTS! I don’t care if you don’t like liberals.. But common! You have to use common sense to realize Trump is scamming you!

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

If a border barrier wasn’t effective, why do you suppose so many people who want to have good security have one? Trump doesn’t have to give his SOTU from the House (although if he wasn’t invited, that would make the Dems look very small), and can give it from either the Senate or the White House. Trump loses very rarely, and he’s not backing down. When the welfare checks don’t show up next month, let me know how long you think that the situation will remain at status quo.

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

iMickey503 wrote:

If I could smile like the grinch? I would be doing it right now.

FunInTheSun wrote:

I would, however, feel sympathy for those who have a REAL DISABILITY (one that prevents them from working) and rely on government aid.

GOD WILL SAVE THEM! Just ask, and he will deliver Exactly what you need. (It may be a Fasting session, but who are me to judge God)

Holly f~~~ (pun intended).

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 1]

iMickey503 wrote:

Meanwhile? THe ECONOMY IS DOING GREAT! It really shows that most of the Government is not needed for the Economy to function!

I know, this Shutdown is proving how bloated and useless the Federal Government really is. So many of these Alphabet agencies need to be dissolved. We are doing fine without them.

I hope Trump says something about it and just closes most of these departments after this s~~~ show. Even the FBI. Do we really need the FBI? They basically went rogue and tried to take down the POTUS. SHUT ‘EM DOWN.

[WPLParticipant 2390]

Exactly. Eliminate 2/3 of Federal agencies entirely, cut the bloat out of the remaining 1/3, and let us keep more of OUR money. Some Federal agencies do important work but even among those, there’s a lot of waste. I have a relative who used to work for a Federal agency and he had a Federal vehicle to use for official business. His agency had a policy of replacing these vehicles every few years, even if they still had a LOT of life left (I think the policy was 3 years or 70k miles, both of which are nothing for modern cars — especially when they receive regular scheduled maintenance, as these all did). The “surplus” vehicles were sold at auction for a fraction of what they’d cost the taxpayers. In fact, many people in the agency bought “their” cars back and drove them for years thereafter as personal vehicles.

Anonymous wrote:

iMickey503 wrote:

Meanwhile? THe ECONOMY IS DOING GREAT! It really shows that most of the Government is not needed for the Economy to function!

I know, this Shutdown is proving how bloated and useless the Federal Government really is. So many of these Alphabet agencies need to be dissolved. We are doing fine without them.
I hope Trump says something about it and just closes most of these departments after this s~~~ show. Even the FBI. Do we really need the FBI? They basically went rogue and tried to take down the POTUS. SHUT ‘EM DOWN.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

SH3LLZ wrote:

Trump is scamming you!

About Real Estate. And the Mafia. I am going to have to look more into this. Books or citations?

Scamming is not really what is going on. Like it or not, a TON of border agents are dirty. So the wall just makes that problem lesser to a VERY SMALL DEGREE.

As far as what it will do? It’s just a sign. A SYMBOL. That’s it. A SIGN of Strength. You and I both know its bulls~~~. But it’s about Pride.

It won’t stop ANY of the problems right now that we face. There is ZERO welfare reform in the works that’s for sure.

But it will put people to work. And that is men. And HIGH PAYING JOBS AT THAT! It will last a long time to build, and that is where some of us are going to benefit. Live in a s~~~ trailer, go to work, save that money, work overtime, and in your off time, do other things like invest that money, or do a business on the side.

The BIG reasons why this has nothing good for the democrats is that most of their base is Women, and workers that don’t work with their hands or do stupid s~~~ like Retail. The more clogged up the infrastructure the better it is for them.

Like it or not, Everything is a back door deal. But you got a choice. If you don’t like mafia’s in New York? Then f~~~ing move.

Like it or not, the s~~~ that goes down there is solely due to people allowing it. If they did not allow it, it would go away.

Just like me bro, I got a choice. I either deal with my depression anger, or I let it win.

Trump is doing his job. Politics is 99% show and about 1% Go. That’s it. Just like count Dank found out about the European union. SAme thing. They do NOTHING for people. Just spend money and make busy work. They are all about locking people in a cycle. That’s it.

Almost all of this s~~~ we got around us we do not need. They guy that said if we just dropped off 90% of the government workers, S~~~ would move along just fine. What you WOULD SEE is more roads being built. More infrastructure, and better living conditions for everyone that wanted to WORK!

But like TFM said, the whole FED thing is a Magic trick. So is all the Political crap that goes on. It’s all a game for stupid people.

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[TaxGuyParticipant]

SH3LLZ wrote:

One final point is this. The wall WON’T WORK. The Great wall of China didn’t keep the Mongols out. So the stupid wall of Trump won’t keep persistent illegals out either. You can go UNDER, OVER, AROUND AND THROUGH WALLS.

Understood, but I view the wall as something to slow them down not keep them out entirely. What it does do is take away the easiest way to get into the country. Now you either have to scale a cliff, or figure out a way to get by the wall. All of those things buy time for the border security to get to them before they get through. And the Chinese didn’t have heat sensors, drones, etc. to help fortify the wall.

So should we just stop trying to secure our border? If we start searching every vehicle at the points of entry, then the drugs will just be imported through where there is no wall out in the desert. What’s the strategy for those areas when the traffic increases? Should we just sit back and accept our fate? And as stated before, the wall is a one-time expense (other than maintenance). It’s not a permanent addition to our budget. And it creates jobs to non-government employees. Better than a bridge to nowhere in bum-f~~~ Alaska.

Order the good wine

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

JB Books wrote:

When the welfare checks don’t show up next month, let me know how long you think that the situation will remain at status quo.

BONSAI!

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[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Fine employers heavily for hiring illegals and you won’t need a wall because they will stop coming on their own.

Fine the entire employment chain, including a contracting company and a company that hired a contractor. Force them to verify all employees as citizens or having employment permit.

Use the money raised to build a wall, then, if you please. Give like 10% of the fines to informants that report illegal hiring.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Anonymous wrote:

iMickey503 wrote:

Meanwhile? THe ECONOMY IS DOING GREAT! It really shows that most of the Government is not needed for the Economy to function!

I know, this Shutdown is proving how bloated and useless the Federal Government really is. So many of these Alphabet agencies need to be dissolved. We are doing fine without them.
I hope Trump says something about it and just closes most of these departments after this s~~~ show. Even the FBI. Do we really need the FBI? They basically went rogue and tried to take down the POTUS. SHUT ‘EM DOWN.

Get your lube and stroke of to this man!

Government Shutdown: Pampered Federal Workers Don’t Deserve Anyone’s Pity

Get a LOAD OF THIS:

As the shutdown goes on, news accounts of the alleged suffering of federal workers mount. They’re lining up at food banks! They’re forced to take odd jobs, or rent rooms out on Airbnb! They need help!

This week, Kraft Foods announced that it was opening a “pop-up” store in Washington, D.C. to provide free food to federal workers so that none of them “have to worry about putting dinner on the table because they aren’t receiving a paycheck.”

THIS is my favorite part. OH the STENCH OF TRUTH! And you won’t see google giving you this. YOU GOT TO SEARCH MAN! You type in Business doing good in the government shutdown, NOTHING COMES UP. And that is TOTAL BULLS~~~!

From the same article:

Whole Foods hosted a free spaghetti dinner at select stores. Other companies are chipping in.

Keep in mind that the 800,000 federal workers affected by the shutdown have so far missed a grand total of one paycheck, which would have arrived five days ago.

There’s no doubt that this is challenging for many workers, particularly those who don’t budget their money well. But Congress has already guaranteed they will be made whole once the shutdown ends.

This is an inconvenience, not a hardship.

In the meantime, let’s remember who we are talking about here. While there are certainly plenty of hardworking, dedicated federal workers, they are, for the most part, incredibly pampered. They get better pay and more generous benefits than private sector workers doing the same things. They work fewer hours. And they have far greater job security.

Better Pay and Benefits
An analysis of federal pay by the Congressional Budget Office found that when you combine pay and benefits, federal workers make as much as 52% more than their private sector counterparts, depending on their education level. It also found that this gap has widened in recent years, because even when the economy was in a recession, federal workers kept getting annual pay hikes.

These people lost 5 days worth of a paycheck, AND THEY ARE LINING UP AT FOOD PANTRIES!

Just take a look at all the POOR ME womens VIdeos and MSM media reports!

Meanwhile, No government inspectors and medling, THE LABOR MARKET IS F~~~ING BOOMING!

And if you want to get your DICK SUCKED! GOD DAMN! Its like f~~~ing CHRISTMAS OUT HERE!

Business that are lending money are making it gold this month!

Stores that offer Federal workers a Pay back plan that comes out of their paycheck are ROLLING IN THE DOUGH with the high Interest rate!

Credit card companies are making the MONEY YO!

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[iMickey503Participant 12465]

And guess what? Those People taking time off work are starting their OWN BUSINESS!
https://www.godaddy.com/garage/start-business-during-government-shutdown/

OH NO! People doing Bad BAD capitalist things! OHHHHH THE HORROR!!!!
NOT BLACK PEOPLE ! Oh GOD NOW NOT THE BLACK PEOPLE! PLEASE NO!!!! DADY GUMBERMENT NEEDS YOU!

And what is the response from all this?

As of today, more than 10,000 requests from people trying to cash in on Go Fund ME and so much more!

And its a BUYERS MARKET FOLKS!
https://www.wcvb.com/article/local-irs-workers-selling-items-on-craigslist-start-gofundme-amid-government-shutdown/25927490

Cash in on those who don’t plan for rainy days! F~~~ EM!

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[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Ranger One wrote:

Fine employers heavily for hiring illegals and you won’t need a wall because they will stop coming on their own.
Fine the entire employment chain, including a contracting company and a company that hired a contractor. Force them to verify all employees as citizens or having employment permit.
Use the money raised to build a wall, then, if you please. Give like 10% of the fines to informants that report illegal hiring.

Sadly bro, this just makes Government BIGGER.

There already is a program like this in place. It does not work. You know why. And yea, there are rewards.

Fri, 06/18/2010 – 19:32 by Guneet S17071 reads
Immigration in the US is controlled by three federal agencies including—

1. USCIS(United States Citizenship and Immigration Services).
2. US ICE(United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement)
3. US CBP(United States Customs and Border Protection).

If you have any knowledge of an employer in the US hiring any person who is a illegal immigrant, then you can simply contact the US ICE. You don’t need to give details of your identity to the US ICE.

As per the US government, the best thing is to contact the local immigration field office to report about the illegal immigrant.

How to report against illegal immigrants—-
1. Immediately call the hotline of US ICE.
2. You can also report online at the website ReportIllegals.com. However, you will have to pay a fee of $10 as website expenses.
3. Visit the website of ICE. You can find all Special Agent-in-Charge offices throughout the nation. Contact the nearest office.
4. If you find that your employer has filed any application for getting a green card or a US work permit for an illegal immigrant worker, then give the details of such activity immediately.

5. If you find any illegal immigrant getting food stamps or welfare stamps for US born children, then act immediately because this is a identity theft. Immediately contact either local office or headquarters of Department of Social Services of your state in the US and see where the fraud unit is located. It is here that you can file a report of the recipient’s place of work and the number of the license place of his car.

6. You need to report such illegal immigrants to the IRS for any fraud relating to tax and the income tax authorities of your state where you live.

DOJ Reward Program of the US government—-

The US government has a DOJ whistleblower reward program which has resulted in recovering of $20 billion and a total payout of $3 billion to citizens for rewarding against illegal immigrants.

As per this program, any individual reporting against illegal aliens is offered up to 30 percent of the total amount recovered from the cheating organization.

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[iMickey503Participant 12465]

TaxGuy wrote:

If we start searching every vehicle at the points of entry, then the drugs will just be imported through where there is no wall out in the desert.

You know the worst thing that ever happened to drugs related crime was legalizing weed. Even with the WEALTH of money out there, these stupid S~~~ heads are still POOR! Figure that out.

DRUGS BOOST the government. If they made all drugs legal, Gang Violence would drop like a rock. So would many fortunes. The Prison population would also shrink to almost nothing.

VAWA made damn sure that Drug cartels had good loyal distributors in their channels. Genius! Don’t make their drug sale quotas, you go to jail. How else can you explain the federally forced non living wage and have any budget planner make sense of it?

Drugs sales as a sad fact stimulate the economy. And is solely their to give government something to do.

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[Gravel PitParticipant]

<everything iMickey said! Wow, thanks for contributing all that.

Comes down to this people, we need a god damn wall on the southern border to stop criminals and drugs from flooding into the nation. Doesn’t matter if a wall really works or not, we’re going to build a better, longer barrier down there.

“There will be a wall” -Donald Trump’s words. He wasn’t being rhetorical, there WILL BE a wall. He also said it from the Oval Office, that this is an emergency, we need to build it. Its not a joke. Its not partisan. There must be security on our southern border. We’re a nation with a border and we need to protect our sovereignty. We have laws here.

If the shutdown and refusal to fund Trump’s wall continues. The Democrats will get what they always wanted, a nation in flames and in anarchy when a bunch of welfare slobs can’t get their way and they throw a giant bitch fit. And they will beg and cry and still, the shut down will continue until the President gets what he needs to fulfill his oath to us. An oath he took to protect us WITH A WALL.

[HermitParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Doesn’t matter if a wall really works or not, we’re going to build a better, longer barrier down there.

I’m sick of hearing those idiots say that a wall won’t keep all of them out. Locks on your doors don’t work 100% so why do we waste money on those? It is, at least, a deterrent. In my opinion, stationing military personnel at the border and having them shoot illegals as soon as they step over the line would be best. So, since the left would certainly not like that, lets build the f~~~ing wall and see what happens. If they still come in to the country illegally, then we’ll think of something else.

Doing something is better than sitting around arguing and doing nothing.

Chopping the heads off of left wing lunatics and sticking them on posts along the border would be a good idea too. Let’s start with Nancy Pelosi’s head.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Hermit wrote:

In my opinion, stationing military personnel at the border and having them shoot illegals as soon as they step over the line would be best.

I was just thinking, could you imagine the outrage if we treated people coming over the boarder illegally as enemy combatants and shot them? I bet the inflow would stop in a matter of hours.

iMickey503 wrote:

VAWA made damn sure that Drug cartels had good loyal distributors in their channels. Genius! Don’t make their drug sale quotas, you go to jail. How else can you explain the federally forced non living wage and have any budget planner make sense of it?

And apparently pay your President $100 million to stay out of the way. Can you imagine being the President of Mexico and having El Chapo show up with $100 million cash and 100 guns and say “Take your pick”? That’s when you realize who is really running your country and who really cares about the border.

Order the good wine

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I agree with you Hermit. If it was me, we’d already have Snipers smoking the f~~~ers daily. It would be a permanent job. You just shoot people all day and night. And we’d LEAVE the bodies right where they drop. Women, kids, anyone stupid enough to try and cross.

Im all for using the border as a munitions dumping ground like one MGHOW said here. Just 24/7 testing claymores, artillery, drone testing, ammo dump… just a giant pockmarked barren blow-away zone more inhospitable than the moon.

If you’re already in America, congratulations, you won. If it was up to me, we’d of eliminated all immigration decades ago. NO NEW PEOPLE. Make it work with the people you have. Id be a dictator for sure.

100% of illegal aliens are criminals. They should be shot to death on sight, no trial

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