Are we approaching WW3?

[Nathan R. JessepParticipant 1102]

PistolPete wrote:

Nathan is right. A single large nuke detonated high in the Atmosphere would generate an EMP that would likely fry the electrical grid for most of the nation–in effect paralyzing it. There would be no communications, traffic etc. I’m not trying to be an alarmist but lets look at this issue in the context of human history—wars have been going on since the day Cain busted Able upside the head. So war will never be a thing of the past.

Did you read ‘One Second After’? Scary book and that not far-fetched.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

PistolPete wrote:

A single large nuke detonated high in the Atmosphere would generate an EMP that would likely fry the electrical grid for most of the nation

I’ve seen some solid research and evidence that this is overblown and nearly impossible. There would have to be detonated much closer to damage electronics and the radius range would suck.
You’d have to carpet nuke to achieve that effect. Single nuke very high would be nothing but a very big and shiny firework.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

Do you guys think we are approaching WW3? If so, are you doing anything in terms of preparations?
The US ended diplomatic relations with Russia a few weeks ago. Russia conducted an emergency drill in which 40 million people went to underground bunkers. Now Russia is asking it’s people who are living abroad to return home promptly, without finishing college, business deals, etc.
I went to the local vitamin store to pick up some potassium iodide, although doing this probably won’t make much of a difference if things get ugly.
I’m attaching a link to nukalert. I’ve had one of these for years. Basically it’s a keychain radiation detector.
Might be useful.

Be honest with you, I was more worried when nobody was talking about it.

Having said that, the only trigger I would be really worried about is NK, then all bets are off.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Anonymous 1]

I see it more like bosses making their calculations in their rooms(more like paying mathematicians to make those for them, and creating models), they will soon come to the conclusion that this mad and resources wasting system will bring even their asses under the ground. No wonder the building of bunkers have increased greatly, they will make more than one plan of attack, and most of them will look like “nature’s fault” so that the most part of sheeps will be ready to get a chip under their skin and fall back in line, ready to “whatever it takes” to rebuild society the way bosses say to do it.

I am sorry if this crushes your hopes, but water, energy, weapons etc. will not save your ass from what they are preparing, because they have made calculations about that aswell. Once they realize that they can have the same wealth and power without billions of consumers we will be roasted.

Honestly speaking I wake up every morning waiting to see if I will be able to sleep another night, I care not much about that, at the end of the day I am just organic material, I would not even fit the new society with a chip under my skin.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Preparation against nuclear war and or WW3 is probably futile considering the nature of the high tech weapons and the largeness of the armies. Your best be would be to align yourself with the largest force you could, that has your best interests in mind. Like the military of your homeland. You don’t bring a gun to a drone war. Preparation against smaller, but equally dangerous threats, like roaming gangs is more realistic. These can happen in a heart beat with little or no warning at the first signs of social break down. A natural disaster, racial event – it doesn’t take much. Then a good assault rifle or shotgun might actually be of use. I have nice collection of weapons because I live in Arizona and I can, but I’m not counting on them to save my ass in all situations. As for what to put in a bug out kit, you can find lists all over the internet. It would make sure the kit is consistent with your environment and weather.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Nathan R. JessepParticipant 1102]

Russky wrote:

I’ve seen some solid research and evidence that this is overblown and nearly impossible. There would have to be detonated much closer to damage electronics and the radius range would suck.
You’d have to carpet nuke to achieve that effect. Single nuke very high would be nothing but a very big and shiny firework.

In written testimony delivered to the United States Senate in 2005, an EMP Commission staff member reported:

The EMP Commission sponsored a worldwide survey of foreign scientific and military literature to evaluate the knowledge, and possibly the intentions, of foreign states with respect to electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack. The survey found that the physics of EMP phenomenon and the military potential of EMP attack are widely understood in the international community, as reflected in official and unofficial writings and statements. The survey of open sources over the past decade finds that knowledge about EMP and EMP attack is evidenced in at least Britain, France, Germany, Israel, Egypt, Taiwan, Sweden, Cuba, India, Pakistan, Iraq under Saddam Hussein, Iran, North Korea, China and Russia.

Many foreign analysts – particularly in Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia – view the United States as a potential aggressor that would be willing to use its entire panoply of weapons, including nuclear weapons, in a first strike. They perceive the United States as having contingency plans to make a nuclear EMP attack, and as being willing to execute those plans under a broad range of circumstances.

Russian and Chinese military scientists in open source writings describe the basic principles of nuclear weapons designed specifically to generate an enhanced-EMP effect, that they term “Super-EMP” weapons. “Super-EMP” weapons, according to these foreign open source writings, can destroy even the best protected U.S. military and civilian electronic systems.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

if it goes nuclear we are all dead.

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[Anonymous 18]

If anything happens it is a planned conflict. Order in chaos.

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[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I’m glad Nathan mentioned the enhanced EMP weapons…they are out there and The new Russian space glider is designed to deliver exactly that type of weapon.

Yes the old type nuke had a limited EMP but times have changed. As FrostByte indicates the actual attack itself might well be survivable but the aftermath would be another question; just look as Venezuela.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I am curious to find out more, but I have to say – I’ll believe it when I see it. Same goes to seismic and weather weapons, direct energy weapons, satellite killers, orbital cannons, nanobots, race-specific bio warfare, etc. I’m sure a lot of it exists in some form or another, but I won’t waste my time speculating about them. As far as I know, no enhanced EMP weapons powerful enough to cause the kind of havoc you describe were ever tested, and if they did – we’d know about them. Sure they could have built them using just theoretical calculations and projections, but do we know it they would work for sure?
On the other hand, I see how early detection anti-missile shield is a bottomless money pit that doesn’t work, and I see how F35 program f~~~s things up. So I have low expectations.
If someone could point me to some reliable info, I’d appreciate that, but I’m afraid that most of these secret programs are more of wishful thinking and clever marketing than viable weapons systems

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[TicParticipant 4329]

think about it this way

Why does someone like Hillary or trump or Bloomberg, or anyone in their position who is a multi-millionaire or billionaire want to run for office? they have all the money anyone would ever want. So, what’s going on…

These people are sick in the head. They are sociopaths. They crave power, attention. The men who control their strings are the same. They are psychotic. Which is why they are who they are. They have destroyed many people’s lives to get where they are. And, they will go to any length to bring about another world war. So, yes, it’s inevitable.

God bless peace and freedom.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Tic wrote:

think about it this way

Why does someone like Hillary or trump or Bloomberg, or anyone in their position who is a multi-millionaire or billionaire want to run for office? they have all the money anyone would ever want. So, what’s going on…

These people are sick in the head. They are sociopaths. They crave power, attention. The men who control their strings are the same. They are psychotic. Which is why they are who they are. They have destroyed many people’s lives to get where they are. And, they will go to any length to bring about another world war. So, yes, it’s inevitable.

THis is so ignorant and wrong that I don’t even want to waste my time responding

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Wars? Let ’em come.

Those who know their way could profit very well from a war.

Maybe in the midst of WW3, some group sees an opportunity and seizes it to unite the whole world under one banner.

Sorry, been playing a lot of M&B Warband.

Nuclear war: we’re all doomed; unless of course, aliens save us.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Anonymous 18]

Tic wrote:

think about it this way

Why does someone like Hillary or trump or Bloomberg, or anyone in their position who is a multi-millionaire or billionaire want to run for office? they have all the money anyone would ever want. So, what’s going on…

These people are sick in the head. They are sociopaths. They crave power, attention. The men who control their strings are the same. They are psychotic. Which is why they are who they are. They have destroyed many people’s lives to get where they are. And, they will go to any length to bring about another world war. So, yes, it’s inevitable.

In not that these people WANT to run but more like these people are CHOSEN to run (and win) to drive an agenda.

In history of US elections, nowhere was there more polarity between the electorate than it is today with the 2 candidates.

Either way the s~~~ is going to hit the fan – and with close to half of population of US already against the President (as a candidate) it will serve some point in the narrative.

With the collective dip in social awareness and overall intellect of people debating the candidacy (emotional over rational) – there is something brewing.

We need someone to take the blame for the fall- once you think of it this way – it is easier why either of these candidates make a very good opportunity for the master stroke – whatever it may be.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Sorry Russky, I respect your opinion but I must come to Tic Douloueux’s defense. A recent study (I forget where I read it so don’t ask) found that over 30% of ALL corporate CEOs are functional psychopaths. And yes there IS a connection between being a psychopath and lusting after power. It is irrelevant to them whether that power is exercised over an individual per serial killer or an entire nation per Hitler/Stalin/Mao/Pot/Mugabe etc etc.

A psychopath by definition has no empathy or concern for anyone…repeat anyone—millions of dead to them are merely a statistic. Recall Hillary and Bengazi—“what does it matter”. I can see her saying the same thing about millions instead of just four. Remember that as a left-wing kook all that matters in achieving the end—the means to that end is always justified.

[TicParticipant 4329]

Anonymous wrote:

tic douloureux wrote:

think about it this way

Why does someone like Hillary or trump or Bloomberg, or anyone in their position who is a multi-millionaire or billionaire want to run for office? they have all the money anyone would ever want. So, what’s going on…

These people are sick in the head. They are sociopaths. They crave power, attention. The men who control their strings are the same. They are psychotic. Which is why they are who they are. They have destroyed many people’s lives to get where they are. And, they will go to any length to bring about another world war. So, yes, it’s inevitable.

In not that these people WANT to run but more like these people are CHOSEN to run (and win) to drive an agenda.

In history of US elections, nowhere was there more polarity between the electorate than it is today with the 2 candidates.

Either way the s~~~ is going to hit the fan – and with close to half of population of US already against the President (as a candidate) it will serve some point in the narrative.

With the collective dip in social awareness and overall intellect of people debating the candidacy (emotional over rational) – there is something brewing.

We need someone to take the blame for the fall- once you think of it this way – it is easier why either of these candidates make a very good opportunity for the master stroke – whatever it may be.

So, they are FORCED??? Of course not. They choose to be pawns. They are sociopaths. You tell me you look at Hillary and trump and not see some serious psychological derangement. .

God bless peace and freedom.

[TicParticipant 4329]

THis is so ignorant and wrong that I don’t even want to waste my time responding

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enlighten me then how so instead of insulting me. Socipathic behavior in the political elite has been written about. How did WWII begin? Who funded Hitler?

Maybe you’re the ignorant one.

God bless peace and freedom.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Nope. I look at Trump and see a straight shooter with integrity, who cannot be bought or persuaded. He’s far from being a pawn. And he doesn’t want WW3. Sure, he wants to build legacy by rebuilding America – if that’s psychopathic – then be it. If he was a part of establishment, establishment wouldn’t go out of its way to defuse him. When he gets whacked – you’ll remember my words and see what I meant

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[TicParticipant 4329]

PistolPete wrote:

Sorry Russky, I respect your opinion but I must come to Tic Douloueux’s defense. A recent study (I forget where I read it so don’t ask) found that over 30% of ALL corporate CEOs are functional psychopaths. And yes there IS a connection between being a psychopath and lusting after power. It is irrelevant to them whether that power is exercised over an individual per serial killer or an entire nation per Hitler/Stalin/Mao/Pot/Mugabe etc etc.

A psychopath by definition has no empathy or concern for anyone…repeat anyone—millions of dead to them are merely a statistic. Recall Hillary and Bengazi—“what does it matter”. I can see her saying the same thing about millions instead of just four. Remember that as a left-wing kook all that matters in achieving the end—the means to that end is always justified.

thank you my friend. It’s funny how people jump to insult you without looking at available evidence or history. History teaches us a lot about psychopathic behavior. Majority of world leaders in the past were not normal people. Take your pick.

God bless peace and freedom.

[TicParticipant 4329]

Russky wrote:

Nope. I look at Trump and see a straight shooter with integrity, who cannot be bought or persuaded. He’s far from being a pawn. And he doesn’t want WW3. Sure, he wants to build legacy by rebuilding America – if that’s psychopathic – then be it. If he was a part of establishment, establishment wouldn’t go out of its way to defuse him. When he gets whacked – you’ll remember my words and see what I meant

A straight shooter? Wow, you are ignorant!

He is NOT bringing no f~~~ing jobs back, brother. You think fortune 500 companies are taking hit in their profits and bringing back manufacturing to US. Ford just closed it’s last production line in US. Good luck with trump. You’re going to need it. LOL

God bless peace and freedom.

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