An apology to Old School.

[joetechParticipant]

I understand self medicating with drugs and alcohol. BLS, you have an inner rage that needs a voice. I hope KM doesn’t delete you, I doubt he will, but be careful not to delete yourself. I have selfish reasons…you’re one of the few who actually enjoys the way I sing Country Joe and the Fish, and I still want to see your girlfriend dance while I play on Zoomchat. You’re way too entertaining and way too much fun for any of us to want to see you leave. Just…well…suck it up, man! Do what you have to and lay off the pot and booze at the same time. I did, and now I can actually remember the tunes I enjoy playing. Life is a game and not all the players are worth playing with, but you are worth it. So, sober up and quit being a crazy Canuck that p~~~es himself off more than he does other people. Don’t make me come up there! Your girlfriend is liable to like me. Better we never meet. She’s liable to bring a friend and double team me with two twenties, and at my age…I’m not wired for 220.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t delete his account keymaster.

We are here for you and all men who need our help.
Spell it out for us brother. What is going on that you feel the need to self medicate?

“No matter where you go there YOU are.”
Leaving MGTOW won’t help you, staying will.
You need support by men right now.
Men are offering it to you.
You’re being thrown a rope very few men will have the good luck to grab.
GRAB IT!

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[OldschoolParticipant 2481]

Blacque, Its all good no need to worry. I accept your apology. Don’t delete your account, you seem like a cool dude when we talked so I look forward to doing it again. I get a bit disagreable at time when I drink also, no problem. You are a big man my friend….

Get a vasectomy.

[OldschoolParticipant 2481]

I struggle with alcohol also. I know what your going though. I wish I could give you my number so we can talk it out.

Get a vasectomy.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

I didn’t want to say anything, or weigh in until after Oldschool had his say. I figured that was his right to have his say, and I do not know what exactly went down, what lines were crossed etc.

BJS I hope re re-consider and stay. You are a valuable member here, and even how you stepped up and took accountability proves your character.
I hope you determine to stop the self destruction and step away from the bottle.
Where is your bottom? How bad does it actually have to get? Because it can and will get worse.

Props to Oldschool as well, for dealing with this like a man and showing character.
respect to both of you.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

I will take some lines from the first post I made on this website:

I Love the Life. Do it in every “position” you want, just do it. Do Sports, Game on, Hang out with friends, be Loyal to yourself and others, Think, Make Money, Read, Explore, Post memes, Whatever. Love it and it will love you back. The Life is always there for you, for better or worse, and there for you to take and make it better.

Remember our talk man and s~~~ I’v been trough and put myself trough over it. You will get better and I wish you luck.

6 years of my life I smiled to people to hide the pain and self destruction inside. But Im here and better then ever, my smile and fun I had talking to you was genuine.

Drugs and alcohol must go away, clean water and fruit, walks in nature, good movies, music!!, your hobby, everything that brings you happiness and everything that motivates you should be a priority. This forum/zoom calls is just one of the tools to be used, to get better. Use everything you can to stay positive and rethink what you do wrong, get crazy over it, get angry, cry, smash some inanimate object with your fist if you must, …use that negative energy and change it in to positive, and be reborn.

Take your time and repeat to yourself that you will change X and Y, and that you can do Z, and do it.
I wish I could offer you more, but I believe in you. Pain is just a part of the process of change.

Fear, anxiety, rage, disappointment, depression, all of it will flow trough you. It will pass. But in the end only You will remain. Change your Life.

PS. F~~~ depression right in the pussy.

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[OgreParticipant 5863]

BJS, from the horse’s mouth no need to retreat. You owned your behavior and you and Old School are cool.

No need to go away.

Please get help. When you say things that you wouldn’t say sober it’s your demons winning. Kick those f~~~ers in the b~~~~, pull their shirt up over their head and pummel them, or just stop. If it takes some help get it.

You’ve got this, and if not on your own then with any resource available to you.

You want to change, so change. Draw the line in the sand today.

Decide. Act. Win. Let us know if we can help. Your apology shows your character when sober. Kick that other asshole to the curb.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[GregB0Participant]

Blacque, Along with everyone else, I encourage you to keep posting and commenting on member threads, as well as starting personal threads keeping everyone informed about your progress and needs.

BlacqueJacqueShellacque wrote:

I am sorry for being a drunken asshole last night in the live chat.

Also, you can look at having private webconferences with members who know what is going on and are supportive. Meetings that would allow friends to see and interact with you in a supporting manner.

MarketWatcher wrote:

Whoa. I don’t know what happened, but lets not get crazy here.

MarketWatcher wrote:

Men know how to get along, be friends, and take responsibility for their actions.

I totally agree with Market~~~cher. You joined MGTOW to be among other men who have decided that they have issues and want to be with others who share their viewpoints and desires. MGTOW is still that place for you, especially when you need to be in communication with men who have had substance abuse issues and have been working in remote locations where they did not have many/any local friends.

Hang in there Jacque

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[WanderingMGTOWParticipant 288]

I’m not the only AA member here. Happy to share my experience, strength and hope with you. (Or anyone here BTW)

Its free and you’ll find lots of people who want to help you.

If that’s not for you there are tons of other options for you.

I hope you choose to stay.

[Anonymous 11]

BJS,

We are here for you to lean on. Do not delete your account. It’s the worst thing you can do for yourself.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

I know it’s slightly off topic, but have you ever heard a woman give an apology like that?

That’s how we know you’re a MAN!

So you need to stay, please.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

You know I am on your side. Yea, you were feeling pretty good and wanting more when I met you on the video chat. You had a problem interrupting people but we let it slide. It’s one reason I kept talking to you, I was hoping to keep you long enough that you wouldn’t go out. As an old sailor, I have been there and a half when it comes to heavy boozing. Stay with us and if you are not careful, things might get better.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Dont beat yourself up too bad or you are going to be starting your own fight club…You know the problem, and you know you need help…The next step is to get some help…You are strong Brother..You have helped a lot of us here…We are f~~~ed up in more ways than one but we are MEN…You are stronger than the demons inside you and you will overcome them..Stay clean brother and join a gym or something to let the rage out…It would take a month at least for results but you will feel cleaner…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[Anonymous 5]

Brother, all of us have problems. I’m a broken man myself, and sometimes I say things that’s out of line.

But, what do you expect? We’ve been drugged by lies, abused, and mistreated since birth.

None of us here are perfect, please, reconsider your decision!

[Anonymous 0]

Oldschool, thank you for your responses.
BJS, I have had my own dealings with alcohol, rehab & AA. It’s not over, by any means, just sort of in remission until hunting season opens.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

GregB0 wrote:

You joined MGTOW to be among other men who have decided that they have issues and want to be with others who share their viewpoints and desires. MGTOW is still that place for you, especially when you need to be in communication with men

^^^this^^^

You got it, GregB0 … … and I got it as well.

Blacque, your need to communicate with many like minded people as directly and openly as possible is perfectly understandable. It also in part explains your posting of the recent conference sessions openly in your topics. I for one can imagine that with this you most probably never meant any harm and so far none of that has been done anyway, so yeah do stay cool keep working on yourself proactively to improve yourself in any which way you can since this is also one core mgtow objective as you know.

Have a personal break from the forum if you must for a few weeks or maybe even months if it helps you, but do stay assured that you still are a most welcome member on the forum meaning you will always be welcomed back any time in here by pretty much every other member.

So no sir, there won’t be any need for you to delete your profile whatsoever.

Peace, dude.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

Do you think you are the only one to be addicted to alcohol and drugs? I am fairly positive that most if not all of us have some kind of problem that we at least want or need to talk about. This is not so much a gossip site but a site that will understand you and wants to help if at all possible. You are not the first one to rant or even apologize here. This site is one that understands men and their problems the most because it is made up of men. Old School accepted your apology and wants you to stay. That is good enough for me. It is one of a multitude of things men do. If you feel you need to rant some more just do it. The rant or the reasons for it will be better understood here better than anywhere else in the entire world. Each and everyone of us contributes something here, whether it be wisdom or a full on rage with ranting or just saying hello. We are all useful anytime we add anything to this site. After saying all of this I see no reason for you to have your account deleted and for you to not be a menber of this site anymore. So, I am asking you to stay, keep you account active and, if necessary, rant at any of us some more if you need to and to let us help if possible. Good luck, Brother.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[Anonymous 1]

I hope you hang in there bro, do not blame yourself too much. We all have our demons to fight, face problems and face the past, stand tall, you are a man.

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

Im New here BJ’S, but I agree with the other brothers. I have read your stuff and it hits home. You are,valuable not only here but in your own sphere of life. I’ll pray for you brother. We have all fallen short of the grace of God. Take a break and focus on fixing you. Only you can do that for yourself. Know that you have like minded people everywhere. Just dont leave mgtow. It truly is the answer.

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

[LupusParticipant 214]

If I were you I would not leave the one place you are certain to be accepted for who you are.
If you can get support anywhere, it will be here.

In regards to your self hurting, check Spetsnaz video’s man, he goes into this.
Learn, control, overcome. They will help, if you digest them.

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