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[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant]

Women are lazy, as soon as they think they have got you hooked they stop trying. As soon as that ring is on her finger she will go back to eating s~~~, stop exercising, will always be wearing the boring, comfy underwear and will stop wearing makeup unless she goes out.

They will only stop being lazy when they want male attention again and are planning on getting back on the c~~~ carousel. If your wife joins a gym, loses weight, eats healthily and buys new clothes then she is doing this for the next guy, not for you.

By the time a woman applies for that divorce she will have checked out of the marriage months ago. This is why they are so cold and calculating, they have had months or years of preparation before she finally decides to start divorce proceedings.

Once she starts loosing the weight, she is done so will make any excuse to avoid sex as this is for the new guy not for you any more. Once she is f~~~ing the new guy she will give you the “I am not happy”, “I need space” or “I love you, I am just not in love with you” speech. She will then either divorce you in 70% of cases or the man will divorce her because he finds out about the other guys she is now f~~~ing.

Seriously, once a woman starts to loose weight and take pride in her appearance again you are done.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[Mr. SpockParticipant]

My ex-wife went after my pension during our divorce. I managed to keep it but lost everything else. Our home was paid off, we had money in savings as well. She got all of it the house AND her 401K. I remember her telling me how we were going to have an easy amicable divorce. That lasted until she figured out how dire her financial situation was becoming. When it comes to money and planning, women never plan ahead and avoid the subject until it comes time for her to ask her attorney how much she won in the divorce lottery.
During the separation of assets I had an actuary do a study on the exact amount my pension was worth along with what portion was hers ( I was at my current job 4 years before being married) versus my half of the house. Her lawyer tried to trick me into signing a quit claim deed before the divorce was final. She tried to grab EVERY dollar she could and at any expense. She even had the nerve to ask me not to claim my spousal support payments as a deduction on my taxes because then she’d have to claim it as income on her taxes.

She's not looking for love. She's looking for someone to finance the lifestyle that SHE thinks SHE deserves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

how the f~~~ are they gonna figure which direction to shoot?

They are natural experts in knowing exactly where to shoot loads. They know how to handle hamsters and duct tape too.

My retired special ops friend is f~~~ing livid over this s~~~. My niece and her special ops husband are both abandoning the military due to the changes. I think her husband has like 2 more years left before he returns to civilian life. He was lucky to get stationed here as his final post which is where they own a house. He was planning on making a career out of it.

They are driving the true warriors out with this insanity.

I’d like to see the pharmaceutical collection of a fully transitioned transgender.

[AnthonyParticipant]

Shiny wrote:

But there are ways to make a break – “hey ma, I just got a great job on the other side of the planet!

Ha, I plan on moving across the other side of the country to avoid my family for the most part. Ever since taking the red pill, my tolerance for being around my family for the most part, is very low. I can’t stand to be around them for very long.

Only reason I’m still with my parents is because I’m looking for a slightly better paying job so I can finally move out.

Anonymous wrote:

Like Key said, any woman born in the past 60 years is to be considered a feminist until proven otherwise. Feminists are odious and toxic.

I agree with that. And my mom is in her mid 50s as of right now.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

Let’s set the mood with some music.

I put off making my introduction untill I had completely unplugged from the matrix… or rather, untill I was out, ready, not retreating, no surrender- untill I pushed the first domino in the chain leading to ultimate freedom, sovereignty and Going My Own Way.
Now I’m finally on the road, the footsteps down this path are unstoppable!

My name is … alchemist, I’m a MGTOW. That’s all you need to know.

I was a MGTOW in my heart since birth but I got caught up in an abusive relationship, manginas let me down and ruined my plans, people with backward logic f~~~ed me up, those f~~~ing lying idiots set my life back years. I hope my rage is palpable.

My whole life I was different, I could always see something was deeply wrong with people and society but I didn’t know what it was. There was always a splinter in my mind driving me mad, and it brought me here; where men value TRUTH.
Seeking the truth has given me an answer, many answers, to what that splinter in my mind is; hidden violence, double think, hypocrisy, psychological dysfunction, red herrings, sophistry, bulls~~~ culture and f~~~ing religious mindsets which poison every well and distort every opportunity for the truth- like feminism.

Now I’m going my own way, I feel a strange question; “what now?” I will wake up tomorrow a free man, a sense of freedom I’ve never had… like learning to walk after crawling forever. If you’ve always crawled, what use do you even have for walking? To this, I also have answers. But they’re not your answers.

CARPE DIEM.

[ShinyParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

Hitman wrote:
She said , “we’ve finally won”
Congratulations, feminist mom, and for your prize you will never EVER get to see your grandchildren again. Soon enough they will forget even your name. Well done. Be happy in your victory, because from now on that’s all you will ever have.

That’s a shocker Hitman, and we’ve heard a lot of shockers here… I find a lot of the women who speak out as MRAs and against feminism are grandmas / aunts who’ve seen men in their family screwed by the system and personally feel the effect because of lack of visitation. I used to have some sympathy for them. Thanks for that red pill to bring me to my senses.

OP – my mum is an anti-feminist. Hates them. This woman (84 or so nowadays) has NEVER OWNED PANTS – ladies don’t wear pants, they were dresses, so she does. In her head, men are men, women are women, and never the twain shall meet.

She was still an abusive c~~~ to my dad: it doesn’t take feminism to make a c~~~ (it just makes it worse).

I still have her in my life – in fact, I’m the sucker child who cares for her, and I tolerate that for complex reasons I won’t go into here, so I sympathise that it can be easier to say, “kick her to the kerb” than do it when it’s you own mother. But there are ways to make a break – “hey ma, I just got a great job on the other side of the planet! I did it to make you proud!” Say or do whatever you need to make that break on the level you need to. My mum is still in my time, but she’s not in my head – I excised that tumour when I was about 12.

Hello MGTOW community,

I’m a brand new participant here, and even though you already have one Russky I’ll be the second one. To give you an idea of what I look like, imagine Putin in his early 30s. Everyone says that I’m his brother or cousin. I’m originally from Eastern Europe-Moldova and now I live in Canada in a city called Waterloo.

I have been reading this website for awhile, and your stories have been pretty damn shocking and some of them unbelievable at first. But as it all starts to sink in, it makes more and more sense. Personally I’ve never been attractive to women, as I have slightly below average looks, only 5″7 and very little money in my pocket. Like a lot of beta men today I tried online dating sites such as POF or OkCupid to find a girlfriend, and many years ago I first met my sweetheart and it was probably the best thing in the world for me. We mingled and fell in “love” with each other. Everything was going great, sex was great, we are both young and had big plans for OUR future together. But I’m the kind of person that really needs my own space and time to chill. She wanted to see me almost every day, but I felt like it was too much despite the fact that she offered the best of her. Well needless to say, she thought I was cheating on her and decided to start cheating on me. She met a well of guy from her work and eventually I was dumped for a “better” product so to say. Eventually they married, but broke up and she wanted me back. But years down the road it was insane of her to ask to come back. I have to admit though that a good part of her dumping me was my fault, and even once told her that I can’t see her anymore because I need my space and she doesn’t understand that. Well this relationship is all forgotten by now and she now hit the wall, is fat and not attractive as once was.

Rewind a few years past that and I’m still on this stupid POF website, except it felt like it was getting worse because I was seeing the same fecking women there, except they had like 2-3 kids, well you know the Strong and Independent Rambo Women! Had a few dates here and there, but nothing came out of it. I always felt that there is something wrong with dating single moms even if they were nice and treated me like a king. I just couldn’t accept the fact that I would have to become a father of someone else’s kids. So I then stopped online dating thing for awhile, just to get back to it again and again. Frustration and depression started to hit me like tsunami waves and I became so desperate that I would hit up almost any woman. Ridiculously less and less women replied, no matter how much I improved my profile and made my photos look like art work. Even dropped all kinds of filtering, such as Non-smoker, no kids, no dead husband in basement… sometimes even if they agreed to meet, at the very last moment they would cancel and block me. I remember talking to this one girl, I felt like we had a lot in common and she even invited me out. But then she left without saying goodnight and next morning I see her online again and she didn’t say hello. So I messaged her asking if she wasn’t interested anymore. The next day she told me that I was a very rude person and she would tell every girl on POF in my city to not even talk with me. I messaged back apologizing and asking what I did wrong? She blocked me and she probably did rat me out to all of the girls out there, because I noticed that a bunch of them blocked me too. What a disaster that was..

Finally I decided to put a stop to this online dating madness. I started to think how much time I wasted trying to get a date and yet getting ABSOLUTELY nowhere at all. I deleted my profile just a few months ago, and I was still extremely frustrated and depressed. I could see myself getting older, lonely and depressed with no wife and kids. My friends constantly nagged me how I’m the only one not married and without kids. But then I realized that I don’t even have any friends so to speak. Nobody ever calls me anymore to hang out as they are all busy with their wives and families and careers. It seems like things are going great for them. They would always post pics of themselves with kids and dogs. I always questioned why I couldn’t be just like them. Happy, with a house and family to live happily ever after. Then I deleted my facebook as well, and all these distractions of other people’s lives are all over with. I literally have ZERO friends at this moment, and never had a female friend EVER!

But as I am now in my early 30s, something is changing. First my sex drive has gone down dramatically. I never had a strong sex drive, and now it’s even lower. This bothered me a lot for awhile. However now I am starting to SLLOOOOOWWWWLLLYYYY accept the fact that loneliness is just another form of living life without all the BS that comes from marriage. As I kept reading the stories on here, I no longer feel this huge frustration eating my life. I am starting to realize that I have wasted way too much time on women, by online dating. And I would NEVER EVER waste even a single dime on any woman. I used to have hope and like everyone else believed that there is someone out there for EVERYONE. What a load of bulls~~~ this all is. Women only go for the best product, and I suppose we can’t blame them since it’s their nature. There is no point in adjusting yourself to her views, opinions or wants. I am starting to give less and less of a s~~~ about what women think what a man should make, how to behave, what to wear and entire list of checklist that needs to be checked before you can even approach her. F~~~ THAT S~~~! Right now I believe that it was a blessing that my life ended up like this, and led me to MGTOW community. Although I’m not yet happy with myself (my job sucks as a security guard and I live in my parent’s basement), but I do want to improve myself and the direction of my life. Another thing that is becoming less of a priority for me is dating, because I see it as a huge waste of time and probably money. Like most of you say, women bring nothing to the table except for ass and t~~~ so why even bother?

Although I’m still learning and reading new information on here, yet I am not sure how many red pills I still need. I am still on purple pills as there is this false hope in me that there is some magical girl out there also looking out to meet me, and that we get married and live happily ever after. Yet I know this is all a fairy tale that mostly women believe in. It’s really hard to accept the fact that this FEMINISM is destroying not only men, but will be the demise of women and possibly civilization if it keeps going like that. Our province has gotten the worse Premier who is a hardcore feminist lesbian, and wasted 41 million to promote campaign and created TV ads against male sexual violence. While our economy is sinking, this bitch goes out to waste tax payers money like it’s toilet paper. Well women love to do just that, don’t they? We also have a male-feminist PM that is a complete imbecile…let me ask you this MGTOWERs. What do you think about feminist men? Are they worse or on the same level to that of female feminists? In my opinion they are worse, because they are ultimate traitors of their own gender. I would be all for equality, but hey when was the last time you saw a hot blond apply for dish washing position? Anyway I think this will wrap it up for now. If you have any suggestions on what I should do with my life or how I can get over frustrations and depressions please let me know. And thank you for letting me in your community! Peace.

MGTOW AKBAR

[anonymousyamParticipant]

Jack123 wrote:

I once hovered around a girl like a blowfly over a turd. She had a boyfriend and I took a ticket to try to bang her If I ever had the chance in the long future.

I must have done all the lamest things on the planet, bought her dinners, gifts and spent weekends listening to her bitch about her boyfriend. It was literally hell on earth.

The day came when she broke up with her boyfriend and then invited me to go dancing in a nightclub. I was certain this was my time! She ended up ignoring me all night whilst she danced with complete strangers until she went home to get rogered by Chad. I watched in horror as all my ground work just got wiped out by a tsunami.

I was completely turned off from her and ceased communications. She then called me out of no where and asked me to help her move all her furniture out of her house and into another house an hour away. I couldn’t believe it, it was a text book play by her. Something you read about, but it could never happen to me. I was being used!

I ended up saying no and she told me to get f~~~ed and blocked me from Face Book. I was guilted into buying her a gift worth $100 to apologise. I asked her if she received the gift and she just said ‘yes’. The bitch couldn’t even thank me.

Gentlemen, learn from my story.

I learned early on (15) to not spend money on a chick. I guess i just adapted early nor am i gonna waste my time being friends with a chicks in hopes of some hook up.

I am just an asshole i refuse to do beta s~~~ for chicks since i have seen what happens firsthand with a beta father. And finally i also keep a backup chick so if i was to ask the chick out id have another lined lined up if it turns out to be either we just friends (when i am not) or the 3 date rule from leykis 101.

So yes experiences like yours and others have helped me learn to do better.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

I read a lot of the posts on this forum, and all it does is makes me angry towards women who have done nothing to me. I see all the injustices done towards men that don’t involve me, and I get angrier.

At this time I am not in the States. In fact, I am not in Western Civilization. The issues I see here have nothing to do with me at this time. Yet, I still read them, and I get angry.

Yes, those that have read my introductory posts know that I have had several relationships, and I have always positioned myself to not have any repercussions from the fallout of just walking away from them.

It wasn’t revenge that I sought. It was just personal peace of mind. However, I find just being able to walk away from a poor relationship will cause the revenge you did not seek. Women can claim all they want that they don’t need a man, but walk out on one who thought she had her meal ticket and watch.

Her mind goes. It just crashes down. Every relationship I walked away from the woman thought that it was never truly over, or that I would come back to her like nothing ever happened. The image of who they thought I was became the ghost in the room.

Financial ruin was next. I am not saying I am a rich man, but I have always had the ability to pay my bills. Girlfriends would always become reliant upon my generosity. I didn’t mind helping or splurging once in awhile, but when it was something that was expected of me it was time to plan my walk. The thing women don’t understand about having bills in your name that someone else pays for is that if that person stops paying for them the bills are still in your name.

I’ve had past girlfriends sit in their empty homes with eviction notices on the door, electric cut off, and the water turned off waiting for a miracle that will never happen. I always hoped they would get their s~~~ together and become responsible adults, but that seems like a man’s only domain. It wasn’t revenge I sought, but it was revenge that was brought. All those times they bitched I didn’t give enough, or buy enough. Now they don’t have enough trying to stand on their own.

The women I was with in the past always wanted respect they never earned. They thought their social status was because the deserved it. They would try to rub it in the face of other woman that they had made it. Little did they realize that the status of most women correlates directly to the person on the other end of who’s dick they have in their mouth.

Ladies should learn to never take that dick out of their mouth. They become compliant. They let that dick slip away. If you aren’t pleasing that dick and you don’t have anything else to bring to the table, don’t be surprised that dick wanders off.

It blew my mind. I’m a Wal-Mart shirt guy. These women would start wearing designer clothes knowing damn well they should stick with t-shirts and jeans. Like some kind of diva they had to look. Like they had to show of their new financial status. Little did they know, after you wear those designer clothes they don’t sell very well second hand.

I left hints that those clothes were worthless and something more practical should be bought. They didn’t listen. In the end they had closet full of worn out designer clothes that were worthless rags with no place to put anything. Eviction and all of that.

If it was revenge that I sought, I have more than my fair share. All my life I have kept my eye on that brass ring. I always hoped people would grow up as I past them by.

Then why do I torture myself reading these posts? I don’t hate women. I hate their actions. I hate the fact if I did anything they do I would be ground into the dirt and discarded like a dead fly. I just hate the double-standard.

I really don’t know if women were forced to be as accountable as men for their actions if things would change. That women would grow up and take responsibility for themselves, their actions, and their own well being. If women would finally earn that respect they keep wanting to be given to them. Deep down I think they can do it.

Here’s why I think women can grow up. I was a child once. I used to blame everyone else for all my woos. Then I hit the magical age of eight. The year my youngest brother was born. There was no easing into personal responsibility. I grew up. I grew up quick. I learned life wasn’t fair, someone will always have it better than you, and no one really cared. Either make your own life better or be the loser that blames others like a little baby.

If I can grow up, like every man of responsibility, women can grow up.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

Have a nice story from yesterday.

I have a friend in his late 30’s and he met a girl last weekend. She added him on Facebook and SHE STARTED sending him massages. He said they were talking all week – she was very open and not coy add all. They were talking about going hiking together and she said there is no sin above 1000 meters and stuff like that and couple of similar s~~~. So yesterday she said – dont have any ideas, I have a boyfriend. He said if she just wants attention that he is not the right guy to give it to her and if he was her boyfriend he doesnt know what to think if he would see what she was writing. She replied ‘You just made me cry’ and started with some BS explanations… f~~~ing AWALT.

Here comes the very best part. He said he is sad because he thought he finally met a girl who he can spent all that money with…. (and he is NOT loaded at all… just a regular guy :)) he said that just to f~~~ with her mind.

I was LOLing hard. He said its a shame because she is taken and he doesnt want to interfere. He wished her everything good and bye.

He told me hes done with texting and she can go f~~~ herself. BRAVO!

Im telling you guys… I often realized that many men know whats going on… they are not red but they are definitely purple. I also often heard men agreeing that all women are whores.

[TicParticipant]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

I personally have never been on FB and I never understood why FB was such a big deal to ladies. Now I get it.

Me too. Just recently put the pieces together.

tic douloureux wrote:

They become emotionally unavailable just as they already cheated. How can you keep her attention towards you when she is out in lala land getting virtually ego-stroked.

F~~~ me. This thread sure nailed it; setting off my red pill rage again. Thought I was past that stage.

A few more pieces are starting to crystallize how my relationship went boom – seemingly out of nowhere – at least I thought at the time. I initially had no answers; I now know almost 100% sure what happened.

It truly is uncanny how so many stories are so similar. AWALT

A little more background – for those who are interested. I apologize for this rant…I need to get this off my chest.

Met the ex via an online dating site – it was fairly new at the time, and due to my career it seemed like a legitimate option. Almost a decade ago and it did not have the stigma it does now. Had coffee with a few chicks, nightmare after nightmare, until I met the ex and we hit it off. I should have quit when I was ahead.

She was a little aloof at first – unavailable for a week or more at a time. I was ok with this due to a grueling work schedule. Probable hindsight is she was monkey branching from another guy to me via social media. Why? Just subtle clues, thinking back that I recognize now. Also, this was her way of increase her SMV relative to mine. She was definitely a carousel rider, yet, I did not know the term or the concept at the time. I lived a sheltered life in that regards and believed the feminism propaganda of a woman being sexual liberated. Very naive of me.

She then ramps things up all of a sudden – frequent sex, idealization, best thing that ever happened to her etc. Even took on the role of holly homemaker for a while. Trust me – it was a role. She was diabolical in being able to stroke my ego and make me hear what I wanted to hear. Recognized now as emotional manipulation. Classic borderline behavior. Thanks for helping me realize that CPig.

This went on for 4-5 years until we were married. Systematically, she became my complete world – I lost touch with all my friends. The trap was set. I am firmly believed her plan was to have 1-2 kids and immediately kick me to the curb. Got lucky on that front.

Literally the day after we were married subtle passive-aggressive torture started. The devaluation phase. I have written a few posts in the past and won’t repeat the specifics in the interest of brevity. She isolate herself and kindly insist nothing was wrong. She made me feel like I was walking on egg shells and something was wrong with me for asking. Sex dwindled. Emotional closeness was out the window. Incessantly playing on her smart phone to all hours. Guarding it like a hawk. I repressed this and spun the plates more and more for less and less in return. Constantly switching from hot to cold. Making extremely hurtful and veiled comments out of the blue – hindsight is she was trying to bait me to leave so she could claim victim-hood.

She used to scoff at social media at thought it was stupid and insisted she would never lower herself to that level. Guess who had multiple accounts and dating profiles? – discovered much later after the breakup as I was never on social media save the one time when we first met. History repeats itself. I can’t help but wonder how many guys before and during our relationship/marriage this was done too.

The emotional and physical isolation became so bad that I finally confronted her. She then started phase 3 – discarding. It was like lighting a god-damn fuse on a stick of dynamite simply by asking what was wrong and insisting on an answer. Gas-lighting to the extreme ensued; I literally received every excuse in the book. Long story short – it was all my fault. The level of hostility was insane. Nothing worse then being the mayor of crazytown and realizing the only other resident is you.

Translation – she was caught and was not going to have her cake and eat it. No more having Chad’s on the side with beta bucks. She was not pregnant yet and had not ensnared me. I finally came to my senses and booked. I was rendered homeless for a brief period of time under threat of a false domestic accusation. The rest is history.

It has taken a few years for me to piece together these subtle dynamics – with the help of this website.

Thank you to all.

I’m sorry you suffered so much. But, the good news for us is that we still have the opportunity to change our own lives for the better and to live with a wisdom that can hopefully save us from making the same mistakes.

God bless peace and freedom.

[EyeswideopenParticipant]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

I personally have never been on FB and I never understood why FB was such a big deal to ladies. Now I get it.

Me too. Just recently put the pieces together.

Tic wrote:

They become emotionally unavailable just as they already cheated. How can you keep her attention towards you when she is out in lala land getting virtually ego-stroked.

F~~~ me. This thread sure nailed it; setting off my red pill rage again. Thought I was past that stage.

A few more pieces are starting to crystallize how my relationship went boom – seemingly out of nowhere – at least I thought at the time. I initially had no answers; I now know almost 100% sure what happened.

It truly is uncanny how so many stories are so similar. AWALT

A little more background – for those who are interested. I apologize for this rant…I need to get this off my chest.

Met the ex via an online dating site – it was fairly new at the time, and due to my career it seemed like a legitimate option. Almost a decade ago and it did not have the stigma it does now. Had coffee with a few chicks, nightmare after nightmare, until I met the ex and we hit it off. I should have quit when I was ahead.

She was a little aloof at first – unavailable for a week or more at a time. I was ok with this due to a grueling work schedule. Probable hindsight is she was monkey branching from another guy to me via social media. Why? Just subtle clues, thinking back that I recognize now. Also, this was her way of increase her SMV relative to mine. She was definitely a carousel rider, yet, I did not know the term or the concept at the time. I lived a sheltered life in that regards and believed the feminism propaganda of a woman being sexual liberated. Very naive of me.

She then ramps things up all of a sudden – frequent sex, idealization, best thing that ever happened to her etc. Even took on the role of holly homemaker for a while. Trust me – it was a role. She was diabolical in being able to stroke my ego and make me hear what I wanted to hear. Recognized now as emotional manipulation. Classic borderline behavior. Thanks for helping me realize that CPig.

This went on for 4-5 years until we were married. Systematically, she became my complete world – I lost touch with all my friends. The trap was set. I am firmly believed her plan was to have 1-2 kids and immediately kick me to the curb. Got lucky on that front.

Literally the day after we were married subtle passive-aggressive torture started. The devaluation phase. I have written a few posts in the past and won’t repeat the specifics in the interest of brevity. She isolate herself and kindly insist nothing was wrong. She made me feel like I was walking on egg shells and something was wrong with me for asking. Sex dwindled. Emotional closeness was out the window. Incessantly playing on her smart phone to all hours. Guarding it like a hawk. I repressed this and spun the plates more and more for less and less in return. Constantly switching from hot to cold. Making extremely hurtful and veiled comments out of the blue – hindsight is she was trying to bait me to leave so she could claim victim-hood.

She used to scoff at social media at thought it was stupid and insisted she would never lower herself to that level. Guess who had multiple accounts and dating profiles? – discovered much later after the breakup as I was never on social media save the one time when we first met. History repeats itself. I can’t help but wonder how many guys before and during our relationship/marriage this was done too.

The emotional and physical isolation became so bad that I finally confronted her. She then started phase 3 – discarding. It was like lighting a god-damn fuse on a stick of dynamite simply by asking what was wrong and insisting on an answer. Gas-lighting to the extreme ensued; I literally received every excuse in the book. Long story short – it was all my fault. The level of hostility was insane. Nothing worse then being the mayor of crazytown and realizing the only other resident is you.

Translation – she was caught and was not going to have her cake and eat it. No more having Chad’s on the side with beta bucks. She was not pregnant yet and had not ensnared me. I finally came to my senses and booked. I was rendered homeless for a brief period of time under threat of a false domestic accusation. The rest is history.

It has taken a few years for me to piece together these subtle dynamics – with the help of this website.

Thank you to all.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Robert HallamParticipant]

The only solace I get from stories like this hitting the headlines is that the more outrageous they are the better it is for men in general. Yes, this one (1) poor sucker got really nailed by the gynocentric courts. It really pumps up the expectations of women. Yeah, I’ll take you to court and clean your clock.

But, and I say but, how many other men out there are silently reading this s~~~, quietly thinking, until if finally sinks in. One guy at first, then after a few more stories, a few thousand guys, and after a decade of this s~~~, virtually every guy on the planet now knows what he’s up against come divorce court time. He’s been warned. Marriage rates have declined constantly, co-habitation/FWB is on the rise, pre-nups and cohabitation agreements are a normal course of action. More kids than ever are living with single mothers and below the poverty line. Governments are playing catch-up with legislation to trap men into being wallets for life, and guys are coming up with new and more inventive ways to get around the law.

In this particular case under discussion here, the guy actually has millions. He actually got away easy, and the only reason he had to pay is because the courts wanted to get his ex-wife and her kids off the government dole, and he had deep pockets.

[Anonymous]

(Disclaimer: I’m not a financial professional. I’m an amateur like anyone else.)

The stock market’s probably a little bit high at the moment, but not ridiculously high. The S&P 500 was stuck at 1500 for over a decade (from 2000 to 2013). It finally had a little run-up to 2100 in the last 3 years, but that doesn’t make it wildly overpriced. A 33 per cent gain over 15 years is only 2.2% per year, which is below the historical average.

So I wouldn’t worry about timing the market. We’re in the middle of a technology boom (self-driving cars, and all that kind of stuff), and the US is still basically the technology leader in most respects. It’s going to push up the market sooner or later. You need to be in the market to cash in on that. Even if the market takes a hit in the short-term, it’ll even out over the long-term.

As others said, if you’re not sophisticated about the market, get a mutual fund that mimics a stock index. Example: Fidelity 500 Index Fund: https://fundresearch.fidelity.com/mutual-funds/summary/315911206

Generally speaking, when using funds that mimic stock indexes: Get a low-cost fund, meaning a fund that runs on auto-pilot and just automatically mimics the market. Avoid high-cost (managed) funds that involve “active management” by stock-picking managers. You can tell them apart by looking at the “expense ratio.” The “expense ratio” for a low-cost fund should be 0.25% annually or less. By comparison, a high-cost (managed) fund will have an “expense ratio” above 0.75% annually (up to say 1.3%).

If you’re older and want something that will automatically switch you into bonds and safer investments as you near retirement, then look at something like Fidelity Freedom Funds: https://www.fidelity.com/fund-screener/evaluator.shtml#!&ntf=Y&ft=BAL_TD%2CBAL_TI%2CBAL_TK%2CBAL_TG%2CBAL_TN%2CBAL_TH%2CBAL_TE%2CBAL_TA%2CBAL_TJ%2CBAL_TL&mgdBy=F&expand=%24FundType

With the Fidelity Freedom Funds, basically, you pick a fund with a “target date” that reflects your planned retirement date. If your retirement is still a long way off, the fund will mostly be invested in stocks. As you get closer to retirement, that fund will automatically switch from stocks over to bonds across time (in other words, it will switch over to safer investments appropriate for someone nearing retirement). You don’t have to do a thing.

Again, some of the Fidelity Freedom Funds are low-cost (“expense ratio” at 0.16%) and some are managed (“expense ratio” at .77%). I would go with the low-cost versions that run on auto-pilot. These Freedom Funds just reflect stock and bond indexes and don’t need active management.

And you don’t need a broker to do any of this. You can just log into Fidelity (or an other on-line company of your choice), open an account, and send them a check to make the investment.

Again, the disclaimer: I’m not a financial professional. The only reason I’m pushing Fidelity funds is because I invest with them myself, and I know the company. But any other big mutual fund company would have similar offerings as well.

[RhettParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

Rhett wrote:

Yeah.. Okaaaay….I think I’ll get off here also.

I am still breathing. But, I have mentally checked out from this society. Except for a few hobbies, I am only sticking around for the final fireworks.

Unfortunately for us with kids it’s kinda hard to turn our backs while the world burns. All I could do is prepare them for a totally f~~~ed up world. Wish I had gotten a vasectomy sooner.

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

[GoneGaltParticipant]

With regards to implanon as an effective form of birth control: not only is it not 100% effective but there a number of women who are experiencing serious depression as a result of using it – Google ‘implanon reviews’ and start researching; I provide one such searched link here: http://www.everydayhealth.com/drugs/implanon/reviews

So it is possible that her use of it combined with her BPD is making things worse. According to Planned Parenthood, every year about 1% of the women using it will become pregnant anyway. My question to you is this: are those odds you like? Besides, going in without wrapping exposes you to numerous possible STDs, STDs which she may have contracted without knowing from someone she’s been cheating with, someone who ALSO is not using protection because of her implant.

Now look at her mother, who you said is very controlling – do you imagine that would stop if you were to get married? Don’t you think that she would then try to force you to live close to her so she can be close to her daughter? And some age-old and sage advice: take a look at the mother to get a good idea of how the daughter will turn out. Controlling YOU.

You have all the warning signs you need, now you have to decide what’s best for you, regardless of how strangers like me are telling you to hit the road. But maybe what you need is to read marriage post-mortems by formerly married men elsewhere in this forum and on the Net which are there almost solely to prevent men like you from making the same mistake they did.

You also have to stop giving a f~~~ about what anyone else thinks of you and/or your relationship with this woman – THEY are not going to have to live with her and her dramas, YOU are. Like someone said here, drop that ‘good boy’ s~~~ right now.

I think you already understand at heart that you need to get out of this relationship and you’ve come here seeking support, and you’re getting it. But there’s only one way to end it and that is to END IT. End it unequivocally, you don’t have to write up a laundry list of why, you just have to say ‘it’s final’, I don’t love you and I don’t want to be with you. She will of course attempt all kinds of delaying actions, demanding detailed explanations so she has the chance to refute you point by point, using her sobbing and pleading to weaken you, and then once she’s succeeded NOTHING WILL CHANGE. Sure, for a few weeks or so but then she’ll fall right back into her old patterns. She will also be more emboldened because she will have triumphed over you again.

Do you want to live your life yourself the way you want it or do you want to be told how to live by someone else like her (and her mother)? Comes down to that. No one claims that breaking up is painless but that pain fades a lot faster than the pain you will experience IN a longer relationship with her.

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant]

Hitman wrote:

that’s all good news !
i can’t “diet ” ..psychologically it’s intimidating..

For me, it was never really a diet, it is just a way of life. I basically eat a certain way 5 days a week in the weekdays with the foods I like. By the time the last two days of the week comes, I would eat anything I want in moderation, as long as there is not too much sugar in it and I will probably not even binge eat because it is not like if I would be eating food I do not like in the weekdays before to the point that I would want to crave good tasting food later on. So in the end, I have not ever drink coke in like 2 years now which helped a lot in me being healthy and I would not even have it in my cheat days in the weekends still. I even eat 70% dark chocolate in the week days since I would not even eat a lot of it due to the bitter and sweat taste and there is also not as much sugar in it compared to regular milk chocolate. Even dr oz and andrew weil preached about how good dark chocolate is.

About my situation with probably being an aspie. Thing was that thank god I had a passion on reading, because that is what developed my english communication skills to the point that at least I am about average I think. As for french, it is a big burden that I am not bilingual by now but I did use a certain french language program called fluenz along with some french classes I took in the past to develop my french to at least basic french now. When I was young, I was told to just focus on learning english and then I would focus on learning french later on in life once you have a good english writing foundation which I am doing now finally. Thing is that I have to kick my a** in learning the french language, but as soon as I start doing a session in fluenz, I almost always do the session till the end because this program is making my life easier in learning the french language. Maybe after I am comfortable reading french, I will develop french skills with more passion through reading french books, because reading is how I developed better english communication skills in the past.

Also, with the prep cooking job, aspergers take longer to master stuff with manual dexterity but the idea is that I would practice learning to prep cook so much(I am already a much better prep cook than the average person) throughout the year, that by the time I get a job in cook’s helper or prep cook, I would hit the ground running. Just like I would have above average typing skills(I type like 40-60 words per minute) that took me years to develop, I am planning on having above average prepping skills.

Just wanted to point some of this stuff out.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[Manboy87Participant]

GoneGalt wrote:

. If you do not break up with her, you can expect a pregnancy scare as she will most likely try to lock you down.

But she has Implanon birth control in her arm. She can’t get pregnant. Am I still safe if I have sex with her with a condom on?

GoneGalt wrote:

The longer you stay, the worse it will be for you. You’re settling for someone you cannot and will not trust, who you think may be retarded in some way, who is constantly manipulating you and trying to force you to conform to her demands, and worst of all is a confirmed BPD. Now imagine yourself 15 years down the road (married to her) when she’s lost her physical attractiveness, the BPD is spinning out of control and she decides to falsely accuse you of abuse over something and has you kicked out of your house, prior to raping you in divorce court. 15 years of either giving in to her demands or arguing – is that something you think you want in your life?

You, sir, are making so much sense. Woah. It really does feel like my relationship is going into that direction. (sigh) I don’t think I’ll ever break up with her any time soon. My heart says “don’t break up with her” but my mind says, “Are you crazy!??? Break up with her NOW!! NOW! NOW! NOW!” but still, my heart says “if you break up with her, you might be breaking up with a unicorn, or NAWALT, and never see her again!” “if you break up with her, she might commit suicide due to depression of not being with you anymore” “if you break up with her, she might never see any other man again, go on binge eating to become overweight, and nobody wants her anymore, and she misses you in grief because you broke up with her when she was finally being faithful to you.”

Maybe I should try to give her one last chance in this relationship?

Still, it feels like she is being controlled by her own mother, like she’s her puppet. Her mom is the one doing all the stuff for her, like she got her a new condo, a new car with low mileage (expensive!), she kept telling her not to move here, and she actually took her to the country club on her 16th birthday. This makes me not like her mom, and become suspicious of her. She has a very controlling, intimidating demeanor.

They think I’m a bad boy, a cheater, a player, a liar, etc, etc. I’m nothing like that. Maybe I seem that way, because I’m a poor man. I can’t even make half of $30,000 salary.

She’s deaf. You may think it makes no difference, but I’m dead serious, it really makes a huge difference. She’s VERY dependent on her parents, because she’s scared to go out anywhere she wants all by herself. She’s a petite girl, she can’t feel confident by being independent like SOME hearing women can. It’s even rare for hearing women to be that independent like men are.

I probably have Asperger’s. Not going to make it official though by have the psychologist diagnose me, because I am smart enough to know that people will just start using that concrete evidence against me. Not going to use this as a crutch in life, because I actually developed some social skills in life by going through the school of hard knocks and actually managed to have some relationships with people after a bad start in the beginning of my life. Thing is that I do not know why they say that Asperger’s have no conscience because I am probably the most empathetic person you guys will ever see at least at one point in my life until I started to realize later on that I need a thick skin or else people who play by you feeling sorry for them every time just to try to screw you up in some way later on like some con artists in life is general. All I got going for me now is that I am improving my french(already have basic french) to live in Quebec better, my english is pretty average, I am trying to master in at least making a few bucks in online poker playing 1 dollar sitandgo tournaments as some sort of hobby also, and I am now thinking of learning java(I did a java course in school in the past before which will give me a good head start) to make apps for the android mobile devices as I try to find a part time job as a cook’s helper or a prep cook in the morning. I also officially lost about 45 pounds in 2 years, and now I am confident that I will lose weight even faster now since I have this amazing plan to be more consistent with the way I eat and at the same time save lots of money on food. The sort of system in how I am eating right now will probably be in another post, but it is almost like 3 weeks now and I already lost like 5 pounds and I even enjoy the foods that I am eating very much and everything is actually very practical. Well that is about it, just wanted to bring this out and I also want to give a big shout out to all the aspergers over here.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[AnthonyParticipant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

With respect, you have no idea.

Work for a farmer for a year and you will say hell f’n no.

I may not have any idea of how hard it is, but whenever someone says “somethings hard, you might not want to do it” I just see it as a challenge. Especially if it’s something I’ve been thinking of doing for quite a while.

And I’d actually love the idea of farming full time. No women to deal with. That alone would be great.

I do plan on working for a farmer for a year before I make any final decisions however.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.