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[RegularJoughParticipant]

Oh, MG, you are correct.

I found out about MGTOW through reading all about the topics you brought up, during my first round of seperation.

Using much of what I read here, I became immune to her ways during the final two years of marriage. It drove her crazy. Really, I wish you could have seen how well I handled it all. From reading here, I KNEW she would find a way to blame me for HER throwing me out, and she did. Said that if I didn’t come back, I was destroying the marriage. Thanks MGTOW, had I not anticipated that, I would have been pretty upset.

MGTOW got me to where I am right now. I had my potential escape plan in place, I had no worries and nothing caught me off guard. The morning I got tossed, I was right in the middle of coffee and Call of Duty. She wanted me gone, so I grabbed my pre packed bag, my fishing poles and metal detector and kissed the kids and left.

But now…. I’m approaching a time line where I’m getting uncomfortable again. I never liked being alone and I suck bad at keeping myself occupied. I mean, damn, I hand washed my kitchen floor the other day. Yeah, it’s clean now, but chores can’t keep me going.

Sky diving and oil painting and lifting weights feels like a stop-gap to something else.

I know, I haven’t walked this path before, I know most of you are much further into this than me, but I have to ask, how do you feel about this choice? Is MGTOW a serious solution, or just a compromise?

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[BadgerParticipant]

Welcome, Gerald. We are all glad to see another man who has seen the light!

Esther Vilar’s book saved me so that recommendation to read it is very good. A similar book by a Nigerian author in England is The Anatomy of Female Power. Both are online at:

Esther Vilar
The Manipulated Man
https://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/the_manipulated_man.pdf

Chinweizu
The Anatomy of Female Power
http://therawness.com/AFP.pdf

You will find the members here are very experienced and sharing information is invaluable. I have only been on site for a few months, and despite being over 70 years old, I have learned a lot of explanations for the female behavior I had experienced or seen in the past. Prior to MGTOW, you had to have been lucky to have had any married men really warn you about the perils of marriage. Now the married and divorced men are finally getting to tell their stories here. So listen to them. They will keep you out of trouble.

[Anonymous]

You’re thinking in peanuts when it comes to real wealth transfer from men to women through the powers of gynoverment through it’s injustice systems.

How many men were made homeless in an instant?

How many men were extracted by a lawyer, then ordered to pay for the family promised to him in the contract of marriage but delivering him to forced isolation under the threat of imprisonment if his employment status should unfortunately change.

Men are chastised ridiculed and slandered with such abusive labels as DEAD BEAT DAD from the same society that criminalized, imprisoned and further abused him for loosing his job under all the stress and above stated HORRORS!

Oh, let’s not forget pampered little princess! What’s her punishment for destroying this family?

Single mother glorification from society telling her how strong and independent she is! All the while receiving further extracted $bucks for livable housing, heat, and food on her plate.

Meanwhile, back at camp f~~~-me-in-the-ass, the man in this UNEQUAL equation is jumping through hoops and loops to get out before he steps on a prison landmine and is further incarcerated, with some of these men spending the rest of their natural born lives imprisoned because they did what they had to do, or it would have been done to them.

Women are achieving higher education at a rate of 6 women to every 4 men, and women are still counted as minorities and given the benefits of affirmative action.

I’ve been exposed like all men to this endless onslaught of feminism! My exposure started by the time I could walk. All my life terabytes of negative recorded algarhythms from women shouted at men, think about the effect that has on your deep subconscious? Men have been trained by society to s~~~ all over men and give women a license to s~~~ at will without one single repercussion, in fact they’re patted on the back and handed a man’s stolen wages to wipe her filthy ass!

The MGTOW mindset turns all of feminism’s radiation into a particle beam aimed at your core turning you into MANRTONIUM! 240!

I/we (you guys too) burned a f~~~ing hole straight through the heart of feminism!

20/30 years of men’s rights organizations? AVFM, every capitulation under the sun!

And who plants the grenade deep in the belly of feminism? That right! WE DO! Pull that f~~~ing pin and walk the f~~~ away!

MGTOW is the only bastion of freedom where the tattered remains of freedom can be seen blowing in the wind!

They turned a man’s world into a dark and dismal place! They get the mansion and we get the dungeon! Those are the “rules”.

Hey you guys, look at that yellow flicker in the tree tops, wanna know what it is and where we are?

We’re in MGTOW forest and that yellow flicker is the entire castle with it’s towers, palace, and dungeon burning down! The impenetrable walls are acting like an oven keeping the flames within!

Finally (but too late) princess thinks she smells smoke!

Life in MGTOW forest is far enough away from the smoke and flames!

Last time I looked I saw smoke pouring from AVFM,s windows! MRA’s too!

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Old BIll said,

Feminism is about putting maximum control on male sexuality, while letting female sexuality run wild (paraphrase).

They think if they control porn, men will go back to the plantation, and become slaves.

That just might be the move that will finally make men go back to the plantation.

………………..And burn it down.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[sidecarParticipant]

Subtilitas wrote:

That’s a good point. Maybe you could specify? Having had predominantly female friends, I know they talk a lot about sex, men and what arouses them in which way, but I have got also the impression that women do not get horny at least in that regard as their arousal doesn’t come as strong and in such a rush as it does in men. Do you really think they’re just concealing it better?

It’s a lot easier to hide a damp vagina than an erect penis, especially in this day and age of perfumes and deodorants and smoke and whatnot.

I’ve covered this before here, and yes, women are by and large far far hornier than men.

It’s a direct result of our biology. Each woman has from birth only a very limited supply of eggs, and those eggs have a definite expiration date. Worse for her, the abnormally long time between conception and weaning in humans further severely limits her opportunities for reproduction. Humans almost exclusively have only a single child per pregnancy. More than two is almost unheard of without modern medical intervention. Add to that the fact that before the last hundred years or so without our modern medicine and nutrition most pregnancies resulted in miscarriages and still births. Then there’s the high infant and child mortality that we used to have.

This all adds up to make a woman’s opportunities to reproduce her genome extremely limited compared to other mammals. So the selective pressure for pro-reproductive behaviors in women was extreme. This is one of the reasons for the hypersexuality of humans compared to other mammals, especially in women. The genes that didn’t encourage women to get out and f~~~ at every opportunity rapidly lost out in evolutionary competition to genes that do.

Meanwhile men have it a lot easier. Each man produces enough sperm every day to repopulate the planet. And he will continue being able to do this throughout his life. This means men are capable of spreading their seed as widely as possible, but it also means men have time. Men have opportunity to concentrate on things other than reproduction. So men do. Men enjoy sex, but they have a significantly lower opportunity cost of missing out on sex than women.

Then there are other complications like the extremely long childhoods of humans and the enormous cost in resources necessary to raise each generation. This expense has resulted in the natural division of reproductive responsibilities between men and women. Women have the monopoly on breeding, while men, thanks to their infinite reproductive capacity, have the lock on resource generation. Put bluntly, women are breeders and men are providers. Both are equally necessary to raising children into adults to keep the cycle going.

Those roles are deeply burned into our brains by a couple million years of natural selection. And you can observe this in humans if you observe them closely enough. You’ve already noticed this yourself how women talk so much about sex. It goes beyond even that, though. Listen to the other things women talk about as well. They talk about clothes – for attracting partners and competing with other females for partners. They talk about shoes – same reason. Also make-up – again for the same reason. They gossip about celebrities – who is and is not f~~~ing who. They talk about relationships – their own and other people’s – basically who is and is not f~~~ing who among people they know. And they talk about men.

The common thing to all these topics is they all boil down to reproduction and therefore sex. Which shouldn’t be surprising given their evolved role as breeders; you would expect them to obsess about it.

Now compare that to what men talk about. Women. Cars. Tools. Sports. Work. Apart from the subject of women it should be obvious that these topics all relate in some way to demonstrating, enhancing, testing, or describing their ability as providers. because that’s what men evolved to be: providers and protectors.

When you finally realize just how much of our supposedly modern behavior is dominated by our evolutionary past it’s either very interesting or very creepy. Or both.

But it definitely explains why women are far more obsessed with sex than men.

It also explains a whole lot of other things as well, such as why men are capable of handling rejection and women simply aren’t, because of their different opportunity costs. And a lot else besides.

There’s a lot more to it than just this. This is merely a shallow outline of the biology of human reproduction and its consequences. I barely even touched on the economics of human reproduction, but there’s a limit to what I want to type in one night.

[FrankOneParticipant]

Finally. Can we also ban ’50 shades of rape’? And all the Harlequin bodice rippers? After all, they don’t encourage the idea of gender as social construct, do they?

Since objectifying women is wrong, we should ban make-up, breast implants, and skirts that go above the knees. As well as long hair.

I love how it all gets couched in ‘do it for the children’, ‘do it to reduce child abuse’. Whenever a jackass politician says ‘for the children’, it’s time to turn up your bulls~~~ detector to ultra-high sensitivity.

And isn’t porn a ‘pubic’ health problem rather than a ‘public’ health problem?

I think the government should just tax jacking off. The government can outfit everybody with a chastity belt and have us pay a Tribute for the key for 15 minutes.

Is jacking off a ‘gateway’ activity that will result in more dangerous sex, with fertile women who lie about being on the pill?

[VarunParticipant]

I’ve given a a lot of thought on this (alomst 3 days of thought) and I’ve finally decided to comment on this:

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

“Seriously, it’s almost on a daily basis we get multiple comments here from self-professed MGTOW whining about men who say icky things about women. Are these fools so conditioned to police their own speech for the benefit of women’s feeeelz that they can’t even recognize the freedom in an all male space such as MGTOW?

The women-feelz defenders aren’t women-feelz defenders at all. That is what’s this guy is mistaken about. These men hardly care about the women; in fact, when somebody says “I hate women”…. all these ‘women-defenders’ can see are “I hate..” and hate is what triggers them.

As much as you say you support it, hate will never lead to no good.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

If there are MGTOW who are angry, let them vent and say whatever the f~~~ they want about women. What’s it to you? Why should they fast track through the anger stage because you, being some supposed moral giant, can’t take it?

Again, nobody stopping anyone from saying what they want; they’re just debating. And again, its not the subject they’re worried about (women) but the channel (hatred).

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Who are they hurting by saying what they want?

Themselves, and being the moral giants we are, we can’t see that happening.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

I’ll tell you not who they’re hurting but what they’re hurting…
They are hurting the latent blue pill, white knight, mangina pussy inside you. Deep down you still pay penance to the female.

Not penance to female, but penance to humanity. Wonder why criminals aren’t shot at sight? Why a death sentence takes more than two decades to be approved after thumbing down numerous claims by Human Rights Groups? Think again.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Maybe MGTOW is your “strike” until you meet a unicorn. Maybe you tack yourself onto the MGTOW label because it’s en vogue. Who knows. It is evident, however, that these types cringe whenever negative words are spoken about women and I do not believe they have the best interests of those who say what they want at heart.

Oh yes we do.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

They would rather the speaker suppress his emotions to create a nice, light, fluffy, Care Bears environment for them to ease the transition from high heel sucking invertebrate to MGTOW.

Again, emotions don’t harm anyone. Blant rants won’t hurt anyone if its not directed at them.
But blant rants do not stay limited to being blant rants. They turn into action. Terrorism is the perfect example: why do you think terrorist groups like ISIS, Taiban, Al-Qaeda formed? That’s right. People never tried to ‘supress’ their emotions.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

This has the potential to cause more damage to the speaker but the accusers never had men’s interests in mind anyway. Oh no, we mustn’t hate women. No matter what they do and no matter what proportion of them do these things. We must never ever presume to hate women.

Again, its the ‘hate’ part that raises concern rather than the ‘woman’ part. As I said above, if you support hate, you’d be better off with real hate groups like the ISIS.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Women are not above hate. There are only two things man has deemed unworthy of criticism, God and woman, and considering that God is mocked openly without consequence (keep your religious debates to yourself, I’m making a point) but women are off limits, it goes to show you the level of worship some men have over a being that eats, s~~~s, p~~~es and bloodies up a wad of cotton every month. No one, even God, is beyond being hated. Righteous indignation is perfectly acceptable, and if it helps men to paint all women with the same brush, it is within their rights to do so. Some of us don’t care enough to pick through all women to single out the supposed “good ones” in spite of the fact the female nature we discuss is based on biology and human evolution and is as inherent in females as white knightery is in males. The difference being, women have more incentive to be “like that” than they do to be otherwise. White knightery, on the other hand, can get men killed!

Men have worship even over something as insignificant as animals. So men will worship almost everything in life. Many men worship MGTOW too, don’t they? I know I do. So would he say the same thing about MGTOW too? I doubt so. The rest of the quote is correct.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

None of you supposed moral giants have a single claim over this individualistic philosophy so get your aspirations of leadership out of your f~~~ing insolent minds because it’s not going to happen. There is no MGTOW without discussion on toxic female behaviour and the risks involved with them. If you can’t take it, ignore it. Don’t attempt to police speech like some f~~~ing feminist s~~~bar who will suppress free speech if it hurts their feels because that’s exactly the impression you give when you complain.

First of all, there is no ‘aspiration of leadership’ in MGTOW, so I don’t have an idea of this guy’s stupidity that he has thoughts like that. we have said time and again that there is no ‘movement’, there is no ‘leader’.

As far as policing speech goes, and I speak for myself, I will not police speech as far as the theme is based on female toxicity; we need that.

But if you spew enough ‘hatred’ bulls~~~, don’t blame me if I crack your skull open with my club. Hatred always leads to negative action…. actions that hurts everyone, and emotional pain is the last on the hurt list.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

I do not presume to speak for all MGTOW and I don’t expect any or all MGTOW to agree with what I’m saying, but you bring your thought and speech policing over here to me and I’ll tear the p~~~ out of you. I don’t know about other MGTOW but I answer to no one on earth, therefore I am free to say whatever I want when I want about anything I want and no one is safe.

And I am free to DO whatever I want when I want to anything/anyone I want and no one is safe. <- Can he say this too?
Nothing wrong with saying; doesn’t hurt anybody….but ‘doing whatever I want’ is another way of saying you are a terrorist who won’t think twice about blowing someone’s brains out.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Offence is subjective. I’ve never been offended by anything said to me or about me on the Internet even once and actually many times I laugh at such things. Why? Because I am secure enough in what I am, who I live for and who I answer to. You can easily tell how self-absorbed someone is by how easily offended they get and how personally they take things. And the fact you are offended for women at anything negatively spoken about them says volumes about your self worth.

Can’t argue with that. If you are going to measure my self worth based on how many people I can hurt, how many people I can kill, how many I can ‘dominate’, then yes, you are right. I don’t have any f~~~ing self-worth. Will not argue with that.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

This is a male space. The last truly free male space on the planet. The most pathetic person in the world is not just the females that invade male spaces but MEN who invade and police male spaces for them! You are hurting men by suppressing them, not helping them. Eat s~~~.

The most pathetic person is one who has zero empathy and do not care about the very place that feeds him and lets him s~~~ on it. Policing is very different from wisdom and enlightening. If I need to eat s~~~ so that I could prevent another Terrorist Group from ever coming into existence, bring me a hefty plate. Because you haven’t seen what terrorists can do. They don’t give a f~~~ about your whining about “give me my free male space”. There wil be no ‘space’ let alone ‘male space’ if ISIS conquers your country.

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Tl;Dr f~~~ every one of you weak ass MGTOW attempting to police thought and speech here.”

Tl;Dr I hope you enjoy your miserable hate-filled life. I’d rather be weak-ass than die 20 years before my time due to depression from senseless hatred.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Hi brothers!

Finally I have launched my new business today, I have been working hard on this project for over a year now and thanks to the MGTOW style of living, I have had more time and more energy to focus on my project not to mention the extra amount of money that I managed to save and invest in my new business.

I also want to thank you all for creating this great community which has helped me go through some tough times, you guys are awesome and I will never forget the knowledge and the support you guys have been giving me, so thank you brothers from the bottom of my heart.

For those of you who plan to take the same path, let me tell you this, being a MGTOW will make you tougher and persist longer, focus on yourself and you too will be able to faceroll every possible obstacle and challenge the society throws at you.

Last but not the least, I am going to down a little glass of whiskey for you all and my little achievement tonight, wish me luck!

My Grandfather and Grandmother (on my father’s side) have been married for almost 70 years this year which in itself is a miracle in this day in age. But there is something that I just have to get off my chest about them. My Grandfather past away almost 5 months ago now from a heart attack and fall which left him in the hospital. Doctors said he would not live very long and if he did manage to survive he would be mostly brain dead.

My Grandmother is one of those bossy, demanding, and impossible to deal with type of people which just made things worse. She demanded to speak with every doctor in the f~~~ing hospital because she did not believe my grandfather was dying. As per usual with my grandmother she rubbed people the wrong way and finally the hospital said enough doctors had helped her and the diagnosis was final. So my grandmother dragged out my grandfathers suffering for months in the hospital because she did not want to be alone and also she said that my grandfather was still alive until he was not breathing anymore, then at that time she would pull the plug even though it was the machines keeping him breathing. So we had to spend months of someone at all times having to be with my grandfather in the hospital because my grandmother demanded it while she sat at home.

After months of this I finally had enough and started to rally some family members behind me in where we forced my grandmother to pull the plug. As per usual with my family it was months more of drama and anger and fighting over the smallest of details over the funeral and other things. Also on top of that I have to take care of my grandma morning and lunch 5 days a week as she she said she is not capable of taking care of herself, because grandpa did all the chores. As per usual again my grandmother would nit pick and complain about everything and everyone and demand perfection over the smallest of details. This drove the family insane and members started to drop out. My own father does not want to bother taking care of her and my aunt is exhausted beyond anything I have seen taking care of this old person.

I have a pretty thick skin but it’s pretty much gone now and I started to formulate my plan a month ago about moving out of town so I can not even be in reach to this f~~~ed up and drama filled family. I wish I was closer to my mom’s side of the family as they were all easy going people that I got along great with but they were too far from us and all dead now.

I feel very sorry for my Grandfather who had to deal with this woman all his life. I see him in earlier photos smiling and looking happy and as the time rolled on he looks defeated and sad in photos. I would be to if I had to deal with what he had to. It just goes to show you women at any age are terrible to deal with, I hope I can find someone who is not…. I however do not mind being by myself with my dog.

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

Warm greetings gentlemen.

I have been browsing on this site for about two weeks now, reading several different posts in the forums, and have loved reading everything here. I’d like to introduce myself and tell you my story if I may. I will do my best to condense it as much as I can, so apologies if it ends up being a huge mind numbing novel and all over the place, full of swearing and displays signs of a mental breakdown (hehe).

I am turning 32 this October. My story begins when I was 23. I am from England and moved to New Zealand in 2006 to visit my estranged family who emigrated there in 2001/2 after not seeing them for almost 5 years. Thats a mother, a (half) brother and sister, and a stepfather who I’ve known since I was 3 years old. It didn’t go very well to say the least, due to the ex military stepfather who I have always clashed with and he did everything he could to cut me out of the picture as I reached the legal age of him being able to throw me out when we lived in England (which he did). He was a complete c~~~ and made my stay there at his precious house as difficult as possible until I left in despair and anger. To cut a long story short, a met an older woman (she was 39 I was 23, I know…pure insanity) online on this s~~~ty New Zealand dating website (never again) who I clicked with at the time and ended up moving to another city (Christchurch) to meet her, and eventually live with her, despite how weird and impulsive it was at the time. She had 3 kids to an ex husband, a 15 year old, a 13 year old and a 7 year old, and while this bothered me, and would definitely seem ridiculous to any of my friends or so called family for me to get involved, I still ventured into unknown territory being the young naive t~~~ that I was at the time.

I had nothing to go back to in England. I was broke, came out to NZ on a total whim, had no other family apart from my grandmother who I had lived with who was sick of the sight of me and vice versa, and I wanted to escape the inbred s~~~ hole town that I had endured for so long. And of course, admittedly, I needed a place to stay. After a miserable year of living with this woman and finding out she was a total mess, she told me she was 3 months pregnant with my baby. I honestly wanted to f~~~ing top myself after she told me. How could I have been so stupid, so careless and moronic. I didn’t even like this woman, couldn’t f~~~ing stand her or her horrible, disrespectful wanker kids. She never even consulted me about it, just told me she was having it and obviously there was no changing it. She told me I was ‘free to leave’ If I wanted and she would raise the child without me. In retrospect, maybe I should have just done a runner and gotten the f~~~ out of there, but being the person I am, I didn’t like the thought of this child being born without a father and having a child somewhere in the world that I didn’t know. I was 23, confused and distressed as f~~~ about the whole thing and it ate me up for months and months. My own birth father (a yank) abandoned me and my mother when I was 2 years old, so I didn’t want to repeat history even though I never knew the prick.

The birth of my son should have been a ‘nice’experience I suppose, or whatever the f~~~ a man is supposed to feel at their first childs birth, but I was completely numb. I felt absolutely nothing, and drove this obese, ugly wart hog who I had absolutely no attachment to what so ever to the hospital, in labour, hoping this was a horrible f~~~ing nightmare I would soon awake from. I honestly don’t remember the birth at all, some how the memory is not there, probably because how traumatising it was for me.

I took my son to an an adjacent room so I could have some privacy and let his mother rest, and held him in my arms, looking down at him, and he was silent, looking back at me. The whole thing was unreal. I said something stupid like “hello…I’m your dad.” We must have drove home not long after, and this new little human being was fast asleep in his carry seat thing. We got home, and I put the car seat on the middle of the bed and watched my son for about 2 hours, in complete shock and confusion as to wtf had just took place. There was now this little baby fast asleep on the bed who wasn’t here before, and he was MY child. I do remember though, an hour into this scenario, I broke down in tears feeling gutted and ashamed of myself for bringing someone into the world because of my stupidity. I wasn’t ready to be a father neither did I want to be at aged 23. I had completely f~~~ed my life up.

Fast forward 8 years…my son and I are very close. I have been back to England once in 2011 for 7 months. I have had many jobs over the years, lost a good engineering job due to the recession, and went through the devastating 7.1 earthquake here which completely annihilated the city. I was in and out of hospital from 2007-2011 with heart problems. I have atrial fibrillation which was finally diagnosed here in NZ. So I get an irregular heart beat now and again which is more of a f~~~ing nuisance than anything, it doesn’t scare me at all as im so used to it.

I’m a musician, a professional drummer and well…a competent singer and metal vocalist. I’m heavily into film making, movies, and am a writer as well. I only play metal, but i like other music as well. Im an artist as far as im concerned, and utterly useless at anything else. (Like keeping a job lol.)

The entire time spent here in NZ has been a pure personal hell for me. I’ve done the responsible thing and stayed for my son and raised him best the can. I hate the woman i had him with and went through hell with her and her kids which i will prob explain in another post.

Over those lonely, miserable 8 years, all my friends back in England disowned me, despite me keeping in contact with my best friend who i was drumming in a band with. Known him since 1998. He went ghost on me then finally told me ‘we had nothing in common’ anymore which broke my heart and severed contact with me. The very last person I expected to f~~~ me over and he did. We even met up in 2011 in London when I went back, and he was weird as hell towards me. So the whole life i used to know in England died a long time ago.

In 2013 I parted ways with his mother and I had met a much younger woman than her, only 4 years older than me who had a daughter the same age as my son. I had known her for a year before moving into her place, and i tell you what guys, she changed for the worse after i did. I could not f~~~ing believe it. I had gotten away from my sons foul obese pig ignorant mother, and jumped from the pan into the fire it seemed with this new woman. I had no idea her kid was the brat from hell. This little bitch made my life so unbearable i ended up taking lorazapam for the stress and drinking myself into a f~~~ing coma with whiskey. Her mother was also another bat s~~~ crazy psycho drama bitch who would be up and down like a f~~~ing yo yo on a daily basis.

All ive wanted to do in all the 8 years of my suffering, was play in a metal band and rock the f~~~ out at gigs and record an album in the studio. I never found it in NZ and have always had the most god awful luck.

What happened to me in the end guys was I moved out of that psychotic household at the beginning of this year to get away from those two demons, and I am now homeless and jobless. I am jobless because the clinical depression i have suffered my entire life and the acute stress and anxiety caused by those f~~~ing bitches crushed me inwards and i found it impossible to hold down a job feeling like i wanted to end myself on a daily basis.

In my desperation, i had to sell my 7 string PRS electric guitar, my guitar amp, my f~~~ing black magic pocket cinema camera, all my audio equipment, all the s~~~ i saved up for years to but with my hard earned cash at pawn shops and on the NZ equivalent of ebay, to feed myself and petrol for my car I sleep in most nights. My son and his mother and her wanker youngest son from her ex live with her father because she was f~~~ed over by the real estate company, and i sometimes sleep on this camp bed in the living room out of pity from the grandfather who also has bitch problems.

Ok, im not entirely jobless, i work as a bouncer on the weekends at a s~~~ hole dive bar in some nasty industrial estate on a fri or sat night which ive done for 3 years. The cash barely lasts me 2 days. It’s pittance. For the other days of the week my ex is reluctantly giving me cash until I wait on a letter from my grandmother to find out whether she will pay for a plane ticket for me to go live at hers.

My life is utterly f~~~ed. I am 31, i have worked my arse off over the years working two jobs supporting someone else’s kids who showed me zero gratitude and disrespected me. These were the type of arrogant f~~~ing c~~~s who would log into the internet router of the internet I WAS PAYING FOR at our house I PAID RENT FOR, and had the bloody cheek to put a speed limit on the net to my computer. When I notified their mother in rage I was told that “they can do whatever they want”, which left me no choice but to smash open their bedroom door and verbally threaten them, because quite honestly, nothing else worked. Did they care? Did they f~~~. Did they have an ounce of respect for a grown man paying for them to sit on their f~~~ing arses on world of war craft all day getting mummy to make dinner for them every day and kissing their arses? Did they f~~~.

I feel utterly broken. But at the same time i feel carved out of wood. I feel weak but I also feel strong. I feel despair but I have hope. Then i feel nothing, then i feel everything. I spend my days in the local library on my laptop, using the wifi, secretly sipping whiskey and swallowing codeine pills, listening to music on my headphones, wondering what the actual f~~~ happened to me, my life, and the person I used to be. That happy go lucky 23 year old metal head with dreams of being in a band and making films.

And then it hits me…jesus f~~~ing christ….its 2016????? How did life pass me by so fast. Who am i? What am i doing? What do i do now? WHAT DO I DO NOW????

I get this horrible depersonalisation sometimes, which is the bodies defence mechanism for acute stress, where I feel disconnected from reality and confused as to who or what i am, as weird as that sounds. Through all the s~~~ my ex has told my mother whos shes bum chums with, im now seen as a mental patient, a loser, despite everything ive done and being here for my son who thinks im the best dad in the world.

I’ve completely lost track of time over the last 2 years. I kept my bouncer job but was unable to find a full time job, and when i did, i would just walk out or never turn up again as i couldn’t face it anymore. I should have gone back to the UK years ago but i just couldn’t leave my son with that useless fat bitch. She is a land whale now. Unf~~~ingrecognisable. She is so fat that I have a hard time convincing myself its the same person. 5 years i put up with her steadily putting on weight until she morphed into a f~~~ing hideous monstrosity and never gave an iota of a f~~~.

So here I am, a broken man, writing my film scripts in the library, writing poetry, writing my short stories and working on a novel, hoping my grandmother will agree to the plane ticket, and I will go back to England and hopefully find work there, and buy myself a new camera, a new guitar, and everything else i need.

I have no qualifications, no trades, i have nothing and am nothing as far as credentials and accolades go. But to me, its all bulls~~~. I do have talent, and i know i have the fortitude and determination to get films made in the UK once im back. I have once friend who i met friends with over the 7 years in NZ who is just like me and wants to make films. So its a ray of light i have in my world of darkness.

I’m devastated to leave my son, but i mean, what else options do i have. I have battled with his mother to give me custody and take him back to the UK but she is determined to keep him in NZ, which is a baron wasteland.

I am a pariah in society, the black sheep, ostracised from civilisation, im outspoken, have no interest in a career apart from film making or music, and f~~~ing despise the 9-5 world and would rather eat a bullet than succumb to that bulls~~~.

Thanks for reading my long as f~~~ story, i hope i haven’t bored the s~~~ out of you. Would love to hear from anyone whos experienced anything similar, and please feel free anyone to comment and give advice etc, would be very much appreciated. I never made any friends in nz the whole time ive been here, never got to talk to other dads or men about women etc and never received any help what so ever. I really have been isolated this who time. But its given me so many ideas for films and stories and so something good has come from it, plus my son brings me sunshine on these dark days.

Cheers.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I think you are not looking at the full picture. At this moment European men are sjw sissies, but their blood is the same as their forefathers.

Given enough trouble and you will not believe what Europeans will do.

Mark my words, Muslims have chosen poorly what countries they f~~~ with.
Germany? Sweden? England? Even the French were historically more tolerant than these countries.

Basically, this is what I’m waiting on.

Exactly WHEN the men of Europe, indeed the entire western world, finally slam their hands down and say,”ENOUGH!” There is going to be HELL on this planet. Usually, the longer these things take to finally explode, the more violent the explosion will be. This has been going on for too long already if you ask me, but I’m MGTOW. I’m pretty much sitting in my own little batcave not caring about society. Leave me alone and I promise you the same. However, plenty of men are being f~~~ed with right now. These men in countries like Germany, Sweden, France, and the like are suffering the worst torments of what being a blue-pill man will offer. Pushed out of your own home, your money taken, your family either enslaved, or worse, hating YOU for doing what was right, and sooner or later……………..
BOOM. They cannot take it anymore. They are going to lash out with pure anger and savagery that hasn’t been seen in decades. This garbage idea that men hate women? They have not seen hate. However, I predict that it won’t be very long before we hear about civil wars, uprisings, and outright anarchy in several different countries. When it happens, I shall be ready. Popcorn in one hand, gun in the other. Might need help with that beer…………….Or maybe I won’t. Either way, the future promises to provide us with interesting times.

-Starhammer-

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[EinherjarParticipant]

These kinds of incidents have unfortunately become a common occurrence in the west today. All countries which have opened their borders to immigrants from the Muslim world are experiencing it. Islam is a culture and a civilization that cannot coexist with any other cultures. It has a history of violence, intolerance, blood and destruction, and it goes all the way back to its creation in the early 600 AD. This is the only culture that does not want to learn.

By reading this article, it becomes apparent that the rape of the West has now spread further, beyond the confines of Europe. It seems that it there is now such a high concentration of immigrants in North America, that they have grown bolder there as well. The newly arrived immigrants may now rape to their hearts content, while the media remains silent, enforced by naive politicians which turns a blind eye to it. It is a sad development indeed.

Immigrants from this part of the world are so alien to the values of the West, that one would think they came from a different planet. And it is women that invited them in. All men have a natural given instinct to protect his home and those he love. But the femenazis forbid it, telling us to stand down and allowing the invasion to continue unopposed. No sensible man would idly stand by while his country became flooded with immigrants from a different world. Traits like tolerance, integration and assimilation does not compile well in the male mind, not in the manner of which this is done.

There is little to do about this crisis at this stage however, it has gone too far. All a man can do is to watch, sit back and study the fall of his world from the safe confines of his home. And when the fall of the West have come to fruition, and Sharia comes knocking at his door demanding his servitude, all he can hope for is this: That the architects behind these ridiculous politics suffered much more than he will.

In the meantime, let us enjoy the freedom we still posses, and not mind the coming day until it is finally there.

God bless brothers,

and cheers!

The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal - Aristotle (384 - 322 BC)

[BeerParticipant]

I’d stay away from real estate…but its really a decision that varies by each person’s circumstances. Reasons why.

1. If I got into real estate I’d want to self manage to increase my profit margins, but I don’t plan on living in the area I’m in now my whole life and don’t want to be tied down here with rentals, have to pay a property manager, or try to manage them from out of state.

2. I live in a crappy liberal state with high taxes and a high cost of living that hasn’t had much of a recovery since the housing market crash/great recession. Even if I was going to stay here my whole life, I don’t want to invest in a stagnant area.

3. I make a pretty decent wage at work and I work rotating shifts. I don’t want time invested in rental properties to force me to pass up on overtime or dealing with tenants or issues that arise to mess up my sleep pattern.

4. I really don’t see the return being any better or less risky than just picking up dividend paying stock and holding them long term. Just for example, the condo I live in now cost me about 350 to own between taxes and condo fees, and I could rent it out for 800. In a good month I’d be +450, in a bad month I’d be -350. Now hypothetical situation…you get a s~~~ty tenant…like one of my neighbors has just gotten stiffed for 2 months rent and is still in the eviction process…he’ll probably lose 4 months rent by the time its over…then he’ll probably lose another month rent while he looks for a new tenant…so he made 3150 for 7 months of renting it out and had 5 months where he was 1750 in the hole for a net gain of 1400 on the year on a 50k property. Plus he has legal fees associated with the eviction, probably going to miss a day of work in court, may have some damages after she finally leaves, and will have to waste a day cleaning and stuff to get ready for the next tenant, plus just the extra stress and bulls~~~ of dealing with the situation…all in all he’ll lose money on the year.

I’d look at it different though if my situation was different. If I lived in an area that I thought had a better long term outlook I’d view real estate as a better investment. If I didn’t have so many random opportunities, sometimes short notice, to pick up overtime that pays quite well at my job, I wouldn’t mind putting a bit of time into real estate. If I didn’t want to move when I retired or didn’t mind using a property manager, I’d view it as a better investment. I don’t think its a bad investment…its definitely better than money sitting in low interest savings accounts, but for where I’m at right now I’d rather just keep putting money in the market and collecting dividends.

[bobphiloParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Very disheartening read. A tiny part of me sees the past 60 years as form of an orchestrated reality made by hands of the rich and powerful people.

First part was to create this huge gap in power dynamics between the genders. Gas-lighting women’s insecurities, coaxing their lust for irresponsible behavior via creation of Feminism ® and gynocentric educational and legal systems.

Second part was to f~~~ men unceremoniously for having sanctimonious dealings with women in the name of marriage.

Third and final step was to bring to light such injustices toward men to appeal to the rational male mind resulting in birth and growth of MGTOW, MRA, etc.

Problem – Reaction – Solution.

A (albeit a masterful and slowly evolving) plan to curb the population in the West.

What’s left I am guessing is a couple nukes going off in India and China to curtail the 3rd world population. And since no one in West cares much beyond 1st world problems (when’s the new 7 inch, OS10, A10 quad core chip with 3gb of RAM and 12.2MP dual lens camera with IS eyefone coming out again?), a new equilibrium can be reached. A couple billion Chinks and Brownies – are expendables. Arab/Muslim world is already designed to take the blame for it all. Perhaps Pakistan.

Quite a few of billionaires consider overpopulation to be very serious problem. Ask Billy Gates.

Our conscience is a pawn in the hands of our masters. They are there. Unseen perhaps but never inactive.

A very profound analysis. Scary but true. Thanks for posting this.

[Anonymous]

Very disheartening read. A tiny part of me sees the past 60 years as form of an orchestrated reality made by hands of the rich and powerful people.

First part was to create this huge gap in power dynamics between the genders. Gas-lighting women’s insecurities, coaxing their lust for irresponsible behavior via creation of Feminism ® and gynocentric educational and legal systems.

Second part was to f~~~ men unceremoniously for having sanctimonious dealings with women in the name of marriage.

Third and final step was to bring to light such injustices toward men to appeal to the rational male mind resulting in birth and growth of MGTOW, MRA, etc.

Problem – Reaction – Solution.

A (albeit a masterful and slowly evolving) plan to curb the population in the West.

What’s left I am guessing is a couple nukes going off in India and China to curtail the 3rd world population. And since no one in West cares much beyond 1st world problems (when’s the new 7 inch, OS10, A10 quad core chip with 3gb of RAM and 12.2MP dual lens camera with IS eyefone coming out again?), a new equilibrium can be reached. A couple billion Chinks and Brownies – are expendables. Arab/Muslim world is already designed to take the blame for it all. Perhaps Pakistan.

Quite a few of billionaires consider overpopulation to be very serious problem. Ask Billy Gates.

Our conscience is a pawn in the hands of our masters. They are there. Unseen perhaps but never inactive.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

I have a bad feeling about the coming year(s).

I generally don’t subscribe to conspiracy theories and end of the world rhetoric, but things seem to be shaping up for a biblical upheaval. Historical parallels like the fall of Rome are too close for comfort.

An ounce of precaution is worth a pound of cure.

Stocking up on essentials is always a good idea. Top of the list includes:

-Water.
-Non perishables.
-Personal defense.
-Medical supplies.
-Transportation (gas powered) and locomotion powered (bicycle)
– Radio (AM/FM) and batteries.
– And an evacuation plan if your in a major residential area.
– Cash (small bills and precious metals) as expect their to be a run on the banks or austerity measures.

Things are going to get interesting.

If you can. Preparing for a few bad days to a week is wise. But, do not prepare for the apocalypse. You do not want to be alive after the apocalypse.

When the smoke clears, you will be either treated as a work mule, or just be killed on sight.

If you find out there is a nuclear war in twenty minutes. Say your goodbyes. Go open that good drink you have been saving or a rainy day. Bring the drink and a snack outside, with a lawn chair. And enjoy the final fireworks of humanity.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Jackinov wrote:

Around 11-12ish, I noticed that girls were given preferential treatments, and called “special little ladies”.

I’ll add a variation on that theme.

I was 11, and had a crush on this one girl since I was 4 – in kindergarten. Aside from my immediate family, I have known her longer than anyone. If I was Forest Gump, she was my “Jenny”.

The last song of the school dance was “Stairway to Heaven” (Led Zeppelin) which is 8 minutes long. I waited years for this, and finally crossed this big hall to ask her to dance, and she could sense it coming. Before I got to her, one of her conspirators yelled “Jenny! You have a telephone call! It’s your Dad!”….. and she ran off.

One of her little bitch friends said “she didn’t have a telephone call”. And she SMILED when she said it.

Imagine how hard I laughed when I first heard the term “c~~~-blocking” some 20 years later. (Never heard it once until I was in my 30s). Even before they hit puberty, those baby women know exactly how to drive a blade in and twist it around. Saying “no thanks” is just not enough. They need to be unimaginably cruel about it.

“OOPS! I did it again. I played with your heart. Got lost in the game….”
– Britney Spears

25 years later I saw her again for the first time since our graduation. She was telling me about how her fiancee cancelled the wedding plans after 6 years of them being together and I listened intently as a s~~~-eating grin came over me.

Then I said ……”maybe he had a telephone call”.
She had NO IDEA what I was talking about.

So I told her the story of the school dance and Led Zeppelin.
She balled her eyes out.

That was HER first red-pill moment.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[WallyParticipant]

When I realized the feminist movement was a hate and commie thing.

The video of auren russo. Were the elite drwamed up controlling men and society, via women.

Hilery’s war on men.

My wife getting so fat with a bad back I was not allowed to even hug her fat ass.

The night I cheated on her after years of no love and affection…and finally deciding to plan my divorce. After a good living up from the mistress….I felt like I had my freedom a bit back.

My lawyer is telling me to wait a few years to get the kid out of college. Pay fown debt and then kick her out…keep the house as she cannot care for it.

Thank you Stealthy, to not even be allowed to hug ones wife, I am speechless. I hope the best for you, I know you are looking out for your child, you have contributed so much to this community, everyone here appreciates what you have to say.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Anonymous]

Following it as well… If those in power are never held accountable, this is what happens. I just wish that this anger be directed to the doorstep of the White House instead of in the streets…(don’t mean killing, just mean protests) Also, I think this is what the establishment wants. Dividing the masses is clearly the plan with mainstream media, and the Obama administration as well. They want your guns badly. Could be false flag…Martial law may be just around the corner in a few years if this keeps getting worse, everything going as planned, no need for alarm…

And to Venom, yea it couldn’t be the fact that cops are gunning people down all the time, and they are being caught on camera finally… Could’nt be that right? Or the fact that left wing media and the president only seem to be concerned when it is Blacks being gunned down… Stoking the fire seems to be the plan.

Edit- Now reading reports that the shooters may be white. If that is true, you may want to hold back on your incoming tirade Venom. Conflicting reports everywhere…

[WallyParticipant]

Awesome intro Solomon’s Wisdom. Glad you never got married, I came across a women who I thought was amazing, had written a couple of books, was a teacher came from a prominent family but in the end she just saw me as a wallet.

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

Keymaster wrote:

I will second that and made that mistake back in ’06. She was one of those “red pill girlfriends” you here tell about

Yep. Same here. She loved to fart, shoot guns, water sports, swear, swallow, etc. Ended up meeting her eventual husband on the plane back from the Cabo San Lucas vacation I took her on. Harlot.

I was thinking today instead of having anger towards the women who dumped me , I felt a tinge of gratitude. I think it’s true that women marry men they don’t like and break them down. Glad Cabo girl showed her true colors.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."