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    Anonymous

    It doesn’t matter, if you have sex with them, or not. As long as you’re in their presence, you can be charged.

    EXACTLY! Stay out of the reactor core and let them incinerate one another, they never should have been entrusted with any power! I don’t need a map or compass to see what they’ve done with it!

    There is no shelter from the radiation sickness unless you start digging immediately and plan on staying there a long, long, long-long time. Otherwise we’ll see you here someday sooner or later with all your hair fallen out, lobster red, scabbing, and puking all the time.

    Life is actually much better not placing yourself in the contamination zone, you just gotta move your thinking off the way they want you to think and start thinking for yourself, and keeping your self interests on target and abandoning their wasting and destroying of your life!

    Women declared war on men a long long time ago, they have become living adversaries in the world of reality, and like Sky-O said, they’ve made reality a fluid subject to their own opinion of what they want it to be. (in so many words).

    Walk away and let them die alone or get yourself killed by them.

    Life can be narrowed down to binary choices if you concentrate hard enough and remove the propaganda that stained your thinking.

    Sometimes the wise choice is not what you wanted to hear or consider having to do. That’s the door to MGTOW, don’t turn back if you decided to open it and walk through.

    All I can say is I honestly believe it’s the closest thing to heaven a man will find these days in a world where women claimed war and destruction on men.

    Looks like Eve has finally f~~~ed herself real-real good!

    Sorry Eve, no f~~~s given, you incinerated yourself.

    You s~~~ on Gods paradise, then s~~~ on the one men were forced to built. Now build your own paradise and s~~~ on yourself!

    #511974
    Rhino
    Rhino
    Participant

    This was great to read and the good thing about everything you said to them was like a preacher telling them the truth that they never want to hear. You planted a seed in those men and they know how miserable their lives are maybe they will do something about it. I know that is wishful thinking but who knows one day you might hear one of those guys getting a divorce and finally freeing themselves from the plantation.

    #511824

    Anonymous

    Tonight I had nothing planned so decided to go on a little walk.

    First a stopped at a local pizza joint to have a slice and a beer. I was the only guy sitting alone. Five guys were sitting at the bar checking out every woman that walked in. Then afterwards talking and texting their slave owners.

    Second Stop was thru the older, run down porition of town near the river. To pay my respects to the memorial of the men who gave their lives in military service.

    Third stop to a micro brewery to have a a second and third drink.
    listening to a musican play rock sounds next to the river. this is when the dyed haired women started to show up. decided it was time to move on.

    Fourth stop was just like the last one except it was the landwhales who have come crawling out of the river.

    Fifth and final before the long trek home. An another micro brewery to have a a 5th and sample a 6th. By now the place was packed with a single chair off to one side. So I sat enjoyed my final drinks and watched. I saw the women bad mouth them to their men’s face. talk s~~~ when they went out to have a smoke. I over heard he can never do anything right. Another one telling her slave excatly what he needs to do to fix the house.

    Then it happened, I started laughing. I saw a room of miserable people turn and look at the guy over by him self laugh for seemingless no reason. The room froze and all looked at me and no one said a word. I was just a man going out to have dinner and a few drinks and everyone else was miserable. At that point I placed my empty beer which I didnt like on the bar and walked home.

    And here I am. A free man. I love my life. I can do whatever when I want. My Dog greeted me at the door and I hugged him.

    Thank you my brothers. I raise a glass to you this night. Thank you for being here for me and all men who come seeking your wisdom.

    #511742
    CEL
    CEL
    Participant

    Hi @mgtow_taoist. I just wanted to write and say I totally get where you’re at.

    For what they’re worth I thought I’d share some thoughts and ideas.

    I’m 36 years old, ex-military (Australian) and I served in the Middle East twice between 2001 and 2003. Ever since I got out of the military 5 years ago I’ve found it very hard to define who I am and understand what I’m about and why am I here.

    For most of my adult life (starting at the age of 17) being in uniform automatically decided those things for me. I never gave these things a second thought – but when you get out, you loose your job, your income, your sense of identity and purpose in life all in one huge hit. You don’t appreciate what those things mean until you don’t have them anymore, and it’s really hard to find them in the unchartered waters of civilian life. And it’s even harder trying to explain to people who haven’t walked in your shoes – or experienced what you have – the sadness, isolation, malaise, anxiety and confusion you constantly feel. You’re right. It does lead to a lack of motivation and for me it also makes me continually indecisive and unsettled.

    I miss so much about my military service. I miss my mates above all else, but I also miss putting on my uniform every day and feeling a part of something bigger than me. It’s hard living without the structure and safety net that military service gives you.

    To be honest, I do think about going back in. Frequently. But I know deep down that it would be a regressive step and it’s not the long term answer. Time only ever moves forward and sometimes winding back the clock is the worst thing you can do. I’ve moved on in life. Like you, I’ve done a higher degree, become a professional and am using these things to invest in my future.

    I’ve tried many times to make plans and stick to them. It’s essential to have some form of planning and strategy, but I’ve learned through experience not to be too rigid or to hold myself accountable to them – because invariably things will change and it’s usually as a result of things you have no control over. You need to have a broad strategy of where you’d like to be, how much you want it and what your values are. It sounds like you’ve already got that sorted, which is great, because without those things you’ll never have a chance of get started. But I’d encourage you to have at least one back up plan (preferably more) and be in a position to respond to change with minimal impact on you. You never know what’s around the corner and even the best laid plans can go to s~~~ in the blink of an eye.

    So far as happiness is concerned? Don’t rely on others to bring you happiness. The chances are that they won’t. Be true to yourself. Choose your friends wisely by investing in those worth your time and discarding those who aren’t. Be open minded but not so open that your brain falls out. I try to find happiness in the purest or simplest of experiences – nature, health and fitness, cycling, contemplating the universe, music and art. They’re all individual pursuits, but also things that you can share with others if and when you’re ready. I think this is part of the essence of MGTOW and thus the route to enlightenment.

    Have you seen the Ridley Scott film “Prometheus”? The final line in the film (when Elizabeth and David take off in the Engineer’s spacecraft from LV-223) is “my name is Elizabeth Shaw. Last survivor of the Prometheus. And I am still searching”. The craft floats above the atmosphere and then shoots off into the darkness of space.

    I’m somewhere on that interstellar voyage. I’m not sure if it will lead to Paradise or not. But I do I know that the course I chart and the people I bring with me on the voyage will be my decisions to make – and mine alone.

    Whatever you’re searching for, never give up. You never know what is around the corner and what life will bring.

    I hope you find it.

    Peace.

    Sinyail
    Sinyail
    Participant

    F~~~ EVERYTHING | Dan Bull

    Men are waking up. Feminism and the legal systems of Western society have declared an all-out war against any man who does not submit to being exploited as a resource.

    Mass immigration, with no regards to quality or any pre-screening of individuals AT ALL, into Western society is causing HUGE disturbances in countries such as Sweden, the UK and even the US.

    Men all around me are being divorce-raped so cruelly every single day. The courts are not on your side, in fact they are against men in every way when it comes to domestic situations with women. Divorce-raped? Say goodbye to your son, your daughter, your finances, your reason for being. I have seen more than one instance of a father, who has his kids taken away from him, commit his final act against himself. S~~~ is serious. Life and death.

    Nature always balances itself out, eventually. Without fail. Feminism and insanity pushes the scales up in their favor massively, only to be slowly but surely balanced by an opposite and equal reaction, namely sanity and reason. I applaud and respect men, and women, who are pushing back against the craziness of feminism and socialistic ideology, SJ W’s, safe spaces, crazy mass immigration policies, and all that other bulls~~~.

    But for me, personally, everything can get f~~~ed. I have no stake, I aim to be indifferent to everything every waking second and look after my own well-being now. I have to. I have my own f~~~ing problems. I don’t have much money, I gotta get my grind on. I need a f~~~ing roof over my head, I need to procure food for myself, water, etc and I refuse to rely (read: leech, steal.) on others and demand others put work in so I can sit on my ass. F~~~ that. But that’s what the left wants. You work, I steal your money through legalese, government and bulls~~~ “wealth-redistribution” programs. F~~~ the whales, f~~~ the snails, f~~~ the trees, f~~~ the bees, f~~~ that endangered Australian Wallaby.

    I do believe in some sort of “Karma” or something like that. Something, anything, “higher.” I just call it Karma and I live my life with self-imposed rules. The only truly unbreakable one is, “Do not aggress onto others, except for self defense.” I’m not a f~~~ing maniac, sociopath or anything like that. I’ll help out, and have, others that come immediately to me in need of aid. “Car wreck, attacked, maybe a small loan, a shirt, whatever, etc.” But charity, father some c~~~s spawn by proxy through the tax system, etc f~~~ that. I swear to f~~~, if I could just move to an isolated island that had internet, air conditioning, and video games with no people in sight, I would in a second. I only stay in the US, and thus am forced at gun-point to pay wasteful taxes, because I have not yet been completely pushed over the edge. But if this feminism, safe space, bulls~~~ takes over all 50 states I swear to Poseidon I will just hop the fence over to f~~~ing Mexico and actively seek out a drug cartel gang and f~~~ with them in any way I can to get them to cut my head off. I don’t have the constitution for suicide.

    Incoherent rant, I know, but hey. When life gives you lemons, retire to Vegas and become a Poker Pro.

    O s~~~, I escaped the plantation? I have:
    NO KIDS
    NO WIFE
    NO DEBT
    NO STRINGS
    STEM DEGREE
    OBSESSIVE POKER HOBBY, TURNED PROFESSIONAL

    Society. F~~~ this s~~~. I’m 24 years old. I’m done trying to fix everybody else around me but myself. I’m going to get my f~~~ing paper, mind my own f~~~ing business, not argue with ANYBODY about ANYTHING, care for my dogs, shoot my f~~~ing guns, obsessively play my f~~~ing video games (Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Battlefield, Civ ftw), watch my f~~~ing TV shows and movies, drink when I want to, maybe smoke some ganja, chill with my 1 or 2 close buds, save my f~~~ing money so I can go on road trips and travel to countries and see sights such as the Pyramids that I’ve always wanted to, and do whatever else s~~~ I want to do, no matter how f~~~ing stupid anyone else thinks it is. Oh, and all the while, never, ever, not once, getting divorce-raped, alimony, child support, nagged by some c~~~ who’s only trying to take my doe, get knocked up, and then take more of my doe, all while alienating me from my kids. F~~~ that.

    I am done with society before I even began. I am a 24 year old guy, born and raised in Texas. I do believe that I am only one of the natural consequences, naturally inclined to simply opt-out, thus balancing the scales a little bit more towards sanity and reason rather than feminism and male exploitation. My fathers “bloodline” ends here. F~~~ a “legacy” anyway. Motherf~~~er, I have more reasons to live than just “pass my seed.” F~~~ Stephan Molyneaux.

    Much of what I say may sound bitter, but I am just sharing a very small piece of my true views of the world, to a small corner of the world that I believe will at least hear me out.

    tl;dr
    I want: World peace (srs), video games, dogs, logic, love and kindness for all, and cooperation rather than exploitation, and my guns to shoot at s~~~. And Star Wars. I love movies and quality TV shows such as Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones. Call me a programmed, brainwashed dumb c~~~ who falls for the Hollywood feminism-agenda simply because I enjoyed the Force Awakens. IDGAF. (And I didn’t fall for it.) (; I don’t give a s~~~ if a man is: Gay, has weird sexual fetishes, a Muslim, a Christian, a Jew, a banker or a janitor. I just want to get along in the f~~~ing world and make my own way, and not have my toes be stepped on and not step on any one else’s toes in the process. I respect and support THE TROOPS, NOT TPTB that create dirty wars for bulls~~~ reasons, but the actual, individual MEN AND WOMEN who actually have the b~~~~ of steel to put themselves in harms way (Even if they are completely ignorant of the reasons why.) I will not, though, be attending should they ever reinstate the Draft. If that every happens: Peace out, bitches, I’m going to Mexico and seeking out that drug cartel gang I talked about. (Or sip mojitos on the beach if I’m lucky.) My tickets up. tl;dr: F~~~ tl;dr’s.

    One less tax-slave. One less exploited male provider. One less soldier. One less person to blame. One less person who gives a f~~~. I used to give a f~~~, but now I don’t.

    Also, f~~~ hashtags, f~~~ facebook, f~~~ twitter, f~~~ ladyboys (yes plz), f~~~ Sandmans bulls~~~ staged voice and presentation and bats~~~ crazy theories, f~~~ my arms.

    #511232

    Anonymous

    What? I don’t see anything out the ordinary.

    The only thing that’s subjugating her to anything is the desperate poverty that’s going to destroy her! All because one day women became ungrateful and started focusing all eyes upon them.

    They got their way and stole ours too! Now that the whole of society is circling the drain they want to render us to the pinnacle of their philosophy, KILL ALL MEN!

    So what? You can see the hatred in their faces after gender studies with the lesbians having their way skill f~~~ing women into worthless bitter creatures.

    No problem, I live on a different plane of reality where everything balances out like a mirror flat lake with it’s perfect reflection. I reflected, now I simply don’t care.

    A truck could flatten her right in front of me and I’ll continue sipping my coffee as if nothing happened only because nothing (her) finally had her last happening.

    She can’t and never will be able to kill my kid, she’s powerless over me! Chad has something to worry about (ha ha ha ha).

    Remember bros,

    They “HATE”.

    We “ANGER”, until we walk away and let the hatred devour them whole!

    Great example of the kind of women I see every day, unless I haven’t left the campground for a couple days or a week.

    I should know if any man knows, I live in the aftermath of HATRED!

    Bigots like her make ISIS look like toddlers with lollipops when it comes to the depth of their hatred!

    Make no mistake, a woman like that will automatically seek any measure she can to destroy any man she can, with or without reason.

    P.S. Why is she wearing makeup? Why would she do that if she hates men so much? They truly are pathetic sad creatures.


    Anonymous

    They have started to respond to the needs of men who have to leave these abusive relationships. Because that is what you guys are talking about. Emotional abuse. Like when she strikes you, emotional abuse is well described.

    They have opened the first shelter for abused men in Texas, one of the first in the nation, and have had a ten fold increase in men who need to leave abusive women.

    Men are starting to come out of the closet about abuse at home. I believe that eventually it will be shown that women are the instigator of most home violence and then the issue will be dropped by the SJW but too late. Nagging will be defined as emotional abuse and taking a man’s child will be seen as child abuse.

    Thanks feminism.

    Dallas family violence cases increased by 7 percent last year. But the most stark rise at one local shelter was in the number of battered men needing a temporary place to stay.
    The Family Place nearly tripled the number of battered men it served last year compared with 2014. The 24 men assisted through November represented about 10 times the figure from just a few years ago, when the organization provided emergency shelter for two or three men annually.
    In response to the escalating need, The Family Place plans to open a separate shelter for battered men early this year. Executive director Paige Flink said it would be the first in Texas and one of the first in the nation.
    “Some people can’t believe me and others are saying, ‘Finally,’” Flink said about the new effort.
    Deputy Police Chief Rob Sherwin said about 20 percent of Dallas’ family violence victims are men. At The Family Place, men accounted for nearly 7 percent of those given emergency shelter last year. Nationally, about 8 percent of abuse victims calling the National Domestic Violence Hotline in November were men, about double the 2014 figure.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/2016/01/19/dallas-family-place-plans-to-open-first-texas-shelter-for-battered-men

    #510420
    SilverOne
    SilverOne
    Participant

    I have just swallowed a Pill. Neither Red nor Blue; more like s~~~ brown and very bitter. When I was separated for the first time, I had two daughters, one 3YO, and 1 infant. I was just getting out of the Army, and had no prospects and no idea what I was going to do with myself, or even how, all while coping with separation and loss of my children. My ex, without any consideration for me as to how I would have any kind of relationship with my kids, moved 600 miles away. Things did not pan out for me, and I had to retreat to my family home, 500 miles in the opposite direction. This was almost 40 years ago, and an entirely different time. I filed for divorce in my home state, and since she never showed up for a hearing, or even acknowledged the summons, the divorce was really a breeze. I was never even ordered to pay child support. It probably wouldn’t have mattered if I had, as I was totally unable to get my feet on the ground, barely able to eke out an existence for myself. None the less, I tried to stay in touch with my kids, and did for several years. Then for a time, I lost all contact with my ex. I didn’t find her till she got in touch with me a couple years later. By this time my kids were 7 and 4. She got in touch with me because she had fallen on hard times, and could no longer take care of the kids. She wanted me to take them till she could “get on her feet”. She sent me my girls, and I had to quit college, short of graduation to get a job. My GI Bill was not enough to keep us from starving. My daughters were with me for a little over a year, when she decided she wanted them back. They went back to her, 1100 miles from me. I was never able to finish college. I still kept in touch with them, but more and more, it became a one way thing. They became emotionally distant from me. I say they, but at 5 years old, my younger daughter barely remembers me, but I asked my older daughter, and she told me her mother had said it was up to me to stay in touch with them, and they didn’t have to anything. They never called, they never wrote, I never got report cards or pictures, they never sent birthday or Father’s day greetings… they basically just waited for me to call them. After a couple of years, I gave it up as a lost cause. Once, I made the 1100 mile trip for a school play, and was there for each to graduate from high school and college. I even moved to their area for over a year, and stayed in their home for a few months, but my younger daughter was clearly put off with me being there, and my older was in high school, always involved with something, and no time for me. I lived within 20 miles of them for a year, and visited from time to time, but in all that time, the only time they visited me was when their mother wrecked her car, and wanted me to get it roadworthy till she could get it in the shop. As adults, my girls have been to visit me in my home, exactly once, over 10 years ago. My younger daughter now has 2 daughters of her own. The only pictures I have of them, I skimmed from their estranged Dad’s FaceBook page. She has never said the first word to me about my grandkids. Apparently, they are curious about me, and are asking questions, but their mother never calls me to let me talk to them. When I call her, she never returns my calls. I have a somewhat better relationship with my older daughter. We talk a couple of times a month, to not so much since her daughter was born at Christmas. You can probably tell, we are not a close knit family. Here is where I am starting to have problems…. My ex has been browbeating me lately about “my family”. If you are wondering “What family?” at this point, so am I. I finally called my older daughter to have her talk to her mother about laying off of me, since it seems to me the girls and I seem as OK with what relationship we have as we can get. When I talked with her, she broke my heart, and never realized it. She said to me, “I can’t imagine what Mom is thinking. I call you “Dad”, but I have never really thought of you as my father, or even family, really. You are more like just a friend of the family.” I could not let her know how crushed I was. And still, my ex is browbeating me about “family”. I have finally had enough. I told my ex that I may be blood, but thanks to her, I am *not* family. That I refused to feel guilty or accept responsibility for her doings, told her about my conversation with my daughter, and thanked her to never contact me again. I then blocked her from my phone. I had been planning an 1100 mile trek to go see them this summer, but it is no longer in the plans. Here is the $64,000 question. Am I cutting off my nose to spite my face?

    I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

    #508633
    Meshak
    Meshak
    Participant

    Wall of text alert. This occurred between September 2016 to January 2017. Feel free to skip it, but there are some lessons to be learned within.

    This woman was very close to my age at 60 years of age. She was about 5ft 2 inches and weighed 120 lbs. She had a nice body, especially those slightly enhanced t~~~. She could pass as 40, but it takes an hour of makeup for her to do so.

    First warning: Transference.

    I had dated her via dating site a year previously. After several dates, I got a Dear John text, telling me she was going back to her previous relationship. This was the morning after I spent the night at her house. During a shared bottle of wine and much protesting about how glad she was not being in her previous relationship, she said that she suspected me of missing my previous relationship. No pussy at this point, but lots of titty play.

    Fast forward 9 months and I get a mundane email from her. We talk via phone over the next three months. She wonders why I never tried to contact her. Duh! Her relations~~~ fell apart, so now she’s on the prowl. I now live 700 miles away, rather than 100. My thoughts on her: She’s the one I never got to f~~~. I wondered what it would be like.

    Her strategies: Love bombing, constantly saying that we are so much alike, blah, blah, blah. Starts sending sexy pictures, but nothing naked. You know the pursed lips while laying in bed, top of the nightgown showing. I send nothing but a smile.

    She sends a facebook friend request. She sees that I’ve got a two seat ocean going kayak with a sail, that I’m out having fun and appear to be doing what I want. In the midst of all these conversations, a question slips in: “You do have money set aside for retirement don’t you? Of course I do and I’m debt free, own my car and have no mortgage. There is inane talk of what she is looking for in a relationship. She shares her f~~~ed up relationships with her parents, her brother, his wife and her son, 35, that she has not spoken to in a couple of years. More Warning Signs.

    Eventually, she says that she needs to be rescued….blah, blah, blah. She invites me to come to her home for a week. I’m retired, so I drive up there. Her dad has dementia and has set his house on fire. He needs to be in hospice. I’m thinking, hell I can help with that, I just ended a 10 year stint as a hospice nurse. We eventually get him into a dementia care unit and get him signed up for hospice.

    My birthday is in two days. She says she has something very special planned. We hit it off pretty well. Birthday night rolls around and she excuses herself to go get changed. She comes down in a cute little pink fishnet outfit. Those nice nipples are looking pretty good at this point. She then hands me a DVD….yep porn. She looks demure and asks if I think badly of her, as she thought she would give me a blowjob while we watch porn. I’m thinking no, it’s exactly what I expected. The sex is pretty good. We go sex toy shopping together and I’m thinking; “This ain’t so bad. Where has she been all of my life?”

    One week turns into one month. I’m a great cook. I buy all the groceries and do the cooking. I help with cleaning while she’s working. Her mother is staying in the home temporarily as her home has all but been destroyed by the fire and was under repair. Mother leaves a couple of times a week and gives us privacy, but the tension is high between them. I got laid plenty of times, pretty good BJ’s so I’m still ahead of the curve. I don’t mind the cooking and helping with the housework. My parents owned an Italian restaurant when I was growing up and I live alone and do it all the time. I go back home, we talk on the phone and she begins to introduce the relations~~~ talk into our conversations. After 3 weeks she tells me that she cannot wait for Christmas to see me, can I come back in the middle of November and stay through Christmas. I agree to do so and the mask begins to fall off.

    She asks about me moving to her state and living with her. I told her we could work something out, but I love my home and don’t want to sell it. She has this grand strategy of selling her home so that we could buy “our” home, splitting it 50/50. I’m thinking, hell no. I want no debt and I’m going to use retirement money to put myself into a trap.

    Whenever we sit talking and she gets half a bottle of wine in her, she talks about all the men that she had relationships with. No details of course, but always says; “All the men that have been with me, love me and would be there for me If I called them today. They screwed up and they’re sorry that they did. There is no one like me.” She sprinkles the statements; I don’t need a man to be happy. I was a single mom and I’ve always had to fend for myself. I’m a strong girl. I don’t need a man to support me. I’m a survivor, on and on ad nauseum. When I start hearing this sales pitch, I’m know I’m not going to be able to hold my breath for long. It’s just a matter of when, not if.

    Over the next month, the s~~~ tests begin.

    “So while I’m working and you’re sitting around, did you accomplish anything today?” (Yeah, I bought groceries, poured your wine, listened to your bulls~~~ and cooked dinner.)
    “We need to eat more healthy or order out, I’ve gained weight since you came.” (Yeah, it’s my f~~~ing fault. Push away from the table and step away from the wine bottle.)

    “I know you get into cooking, but you have to respect my kitchen. Come here and look at the crumbs that you missed.”

    “ So while I was working, were you on facebook all day talking to other women?”

    What do you do with all of your free time while I’m working? You know, some of us have to work!”

    “All men are cheaters.”

    “You have to realize how special you are. I don’t let men stay in my home. You’ve been given a special privilege.”

    “One of my girlfriends told me that you sent her a friend request and that you’ve been hitting on her.” (Bulls~~~, I know your girlfriend is crazy and to me looks like a horse.)

    It seems like your are ignoring me. I work all day and yes you poured me a glass of whine, but it seems that you don’t want to talk with me. I’ve been thinking of you all day and it made me wet, but now I’ve lost the feeling.” (lol! Yep….I’ve lost that lovin’ feeling too)

    One night we are drinking wine, laying on the floor listening to music. She’s pretty buzzed and is looking forward to sex. She smells me and asks; “You smell wonderful. What deodorant do you have on?” I told her that I use Secret. It works, no breakthrough and no under arm irritation. “That’s womens deodorant! Are you gay?” By now I’m reaching my limit and realize that the irritation she causes me is not worth the pussy and BJ’s. I called her out on it and told her if I had not had any wine, I would pack my s~~~ and head home. She asked if I wanted to come to bed and I declined. She apologized the next day, saying that she guessed she had too much to drink. I asked her why the f~~~ she was behaving that way and she tells me she has had a habit of trying to push men away and not get close to them. (Ding! She has achieved success.)

    More s~~~ tests over the next week and some bitchiness while shopping for Christmas decorations. All of this cinched it for me. I mentioned heading back home after Christmas, that I really needed a break. She turned on the tears and begged me not to go. She even threatened that if I walked out on her, that would be the end. I struggled with this but I needed to get the f~~~ out. I was able to get consolation from a buddy via phone when she was working, but I was stressing out just being there.

    She tried various combinations of seduction and crying over the next two weeks. She has an insomnia problem and it would pretty regularly f~~~ up the next day or two. She gave me two gift cards to a steakhouse. I took her there, but she had a panic attack on the way and I had to turn around. I know for sure that I would be b~~~~ deep in crazy if I stayed in this. I’ve already made up my mind and she’s beginning to panic. I leave on January 2nd and get back home.

    Conversations are short and shallow. She tries more s~~~ testing and I don’t respond. I finally give her permission to date others if she isn’t happy.

    The last day we talk and I tell her I would prefer to be friends. Her response; “ I knew this was coming. When you tell someone they can date around, you don’t care about them. By the way, when I was crying, it was not just because you were leaving, it was for me too. I needed you to leave. Well you got what you want. I’m getting off the phone.”

    I made no further attempts to contact her and three days later, she did the facebook block. When I pulled out of her driveway, I had never felt so relieved. And that….is the happy ending to this stories. This one confirmed that the Red Pill was the right way to go. Six months and counting.

    Meshak

    #508288
    NoMore
    NoMore
    Participant

    I know this sounds strange, but as all the dust settled, I feel bad. I feel like I failed. Think of it. She’s now 42, twice divorced, no family, ailing father, little money, little retirement and in a depression which has only gotten worse. Heck, she still has our photos prominent on her facebook as soon as you pull up her page I am told.

    Keep in mind, while in still blue pill mode, she talked really bad about me to all it seems. It was so bad, that her co-workers thought she was cheating on me. A VAR proved that she didn’t, but the other things she said about me, the lies, the hurt, the pain.. Would you believe, she stated numerous times on the VAR, I want to leave so bad, but I am just too weak. Or, with him, I know what I have. It’s better than what’s out there in the dating cesspool. Another good one, I will leave when I am ready. He has to change for me in order for this marriage to work. This is on top of her telling the therapist that she didn’t want me at the counseling. Her excuse was she needed it more than we did. I am no angel, and I was going through a business failing, two deaths in my family and complete hell in my life. I was also recovering from an serious injury that made me go to the hospital nearly every week. With all of that said, I still carried my weight, cleaned the house, cooked the food, paid 95% of all bills including all of the housing and utilities. When I was in pain, I remember she was just sitting there… Didn’t offer to help at all. I had shoulder surgery and my shoulder was set in a fixed position. The pain got so bad, I just went to the bedroom to wait for it to subside when it flared up. Due to this, we had separate bedrooms at my request. That was my mistake, and once I was better (took a good year), I requested for her to move back in, she said no. I asked once per week, she said no. Both her mom and the therapist said this wasn’t good, but she’s half Jewish half Italian, and one stubborn SOB. Of course, prior to marriage, she was an angel who would help in any way possible. During the hurricane (2012 I think), she had no heat or power, I drove over and picked her up, took her back to my place. No appreciation. She got into two car accidents, I repaired her car. She had the flu while we were dating, and I took care of her for a week at my place. She had issues at her job, I intervened and worked to get her out of hot water. Yet, she tells everyone that I gave bad advice. When she had hard days at work, I’d send her a nice fruit basket for her to share with her friends at work. I cooked three nights a week, she actually go upset the meals weren’t ready when she got home (this is after a full day of work for me). Ironically, I got the flu last year, she left me for dead. Four days, she didn’t even check to see if I needed anything. She cussed me out, told me to go f~~~ myself a few times as well as punched me in my arm (all for a hidden cookie). I had a bad migraine and I asked her to lower the TV, her answer was go into another room. So I disconnected the tv and went into the next room. Sex stopped from 2015 – 2016. She then asked/offered an open marriage, I filed for divorce the next day. I was so ashamed and hurt she said that. It was like a knife went through my heart. It seemed expected, not appreciated.

    She f~~~ed me on the medical insurance until the divorce was final (she dragged it out for a year before signing). I thank Tom Leykis for the strength to pull the trigger. It was only a 2 year marriage. However, it if go closer to 4 years, there would had been asset division. If you can believe, a week after marriage, she asked for her name to be put on the house that I’ve owned prior to meeting her? I said no chance. Yet, I still only have sorrow for her, not hate or anger.

    Since I’ve divorced her, my finances have repaired, I am rebuilding my business, my health has gotten better and I am generally happier. However, I have a great distain for women now. I tolerate them, but I always wonder, what are they really thinking. Nothing has changed me more in my 40+ years living on this planet than marriage and divorce. The woman could be a billionaire, and I wouldn’t marry again. Why do women, highly educated women, underestimate us guys? They take kindness for weakness.

    The question, again, is why don’t I have any anger or hatred towards her? Even the lawyer, wanted to slam her through the floor, I wouldn’t do it. I said I just want out of the contract. I gave her all the wedding gifts, cash, bedroom furniture and my rights to her pension. I am not a vindictive person. I am more of a person who speaks softly but carries a big stick. The failure of the marriage is still quite painful. I feel like I was forced to file in order to protect what I have left. Not only that, what was I gaining in the marriage? No love (she refused to kiss me for almost 2 years), no sex, no cooking, she was a slob, going to her parents every week, etc. Would you believe, she made fun of my shoulder surgery cause the cartilage makes a cracking sound in front of my parents and her family? After that, I told her she’s never coming to my Mom’s house again. Would you believe, at her 40th birthday party, I was not allowed to have any input? Her mom did everything. Yet, it was my idea. Not only that, the photo’s she took were of everyone aside from me and my remaining family. I feel played, but I didn’t really lose anything aside from time. I thought I was marrying my friend, let alone I married a person who just wanted the title of wife. Yet, again, I’d find her taking off or not wearing her wedding ring all the time.

    There should be a warning label on the bottom of the marriage license. Things which appear in life may not necessarily be the truth. Please think about what the other person is getting out of entering into a contract with you.

    I realize I was lucky in terms of only having to pay 35k in legal fees. However, what the hell is wrong with these people… More importantly, why, after typing all of this, can’t I get angry at my ex-wife. All I feel is pity towards her.

    You are just feeling empathy because your immediate actions cause someone discomfort. That is human. What is also human is to zoom out and realize that your actions were forced by her behavior in an attempt at self preservation.

    I have similar pangs of empathy, mostly about the turmoil my son will someday feel. However, it is because I am a human and can empathize with other humans. I assuage this by re-reading the hateful texts and re-listening to the recordings of the vitriol my wife directed towards me. It reaffirms the decision I made.

    Becoming a MGTOW doesn’t mean you aren’t human, just that you have risen above the game women and the courts have thrust upon us.

    A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

    ForeverDone
    ForeverDone
    Participant

    I know this sounds strange, but as all the dust settled, I feel bad. I feel like I failed. Think of it. She’s now 42, twice divorced, no family, ailing father, little money, little retirement and in a depression which has only gotten worse. Heck, she still has our photos prominent on her facebook as soon as you pull up her page I am told.

    Keep in mind, while in still blue pill mode, she talked really bad about me to all it seems. It was so bad, that her co-workers thought she was cheating on me. A VAR proved that she didn’t, but the other things she said about me, the lies, the hurt, the pain.. Would you believe, she stated numerous times on the VAR, I want to leave so bad, but I am just too weak. Or, with him, I know what I have. It’s better than what’s out there in the dating cesspool. Another good one, I will leave when I am ready. He has to change for me in order for this marriage to work. This is on top of her telling the therapist that she didn’t want me at the counseling. Her excuse was she needed it more than we did. I am no angel, and I was going through a business failing, two deaths in my family and complete hell in my life. I was also recovering from an serious injury that made me go to the hospital nearly every week. With all of that said, I still carried my weight, cleaned the house, cooked the food, paid 95% of all bills including all of the housing and utilities. When I was in pain, I remember she was just sitting there… Didn’t offer to help at all. I had shoulder surgery and my shoulder was set in a fixed position. The pain got so bad, I just went to the bedroom to wait for it to subside when it flared up. Due to this, we had separate bedrooms at my request. That was my mistake, and once I was better (took a good year), I requested for her to move back in, she said no. I asked once per week, she said no. Both her mom and the therapist said this wasn’t good, but she’s half Jewish half Italian, and one stubborn SOB. Of course, prior to marriage, she was an angel who would help in any way possible. During the hurricane (2012 I think), she had no heat or power, I drove over and picked her up, took her back to my place. No appreciation. She got into two car accidents, I repaired her car. She had the flu while we were dating, and I took care of her for a week at my place. She had issues at her job, I intervened and worked to get her out of hot water. Yet, she tells everyone that I gave bad advice. When she had hard days at work, I’d send her a nice fruit basket for her to share with her friends at work. I cooked three nights a week, she actually go upset the meals weren’t ready when she got home (this is after a full day of work for me). Ironically, I got the flu last year, she left me for dead. Four days, she didn’t even check to see if I needed anything. She cussed me out, told me to go f~~~ myself a few times as well as punched me in my arm (all for a hidden cookie). I had a bad migraine and I asked her to lower the TV, her answer was go into another room. So I disconnected the tv and went into the next room. Sex stopped from 2015 – 2016. She then asked/offered an open marriage, I filed for divorce the next day. I was so ashamed and hurt she said that. It was like a knife went through my heart. It seemed expected, not appreciated.

    She f~~~ed me on the medical insurance until the divorce was final (she dragged it out for a year before signing). I thank Tom Leykis for the strength to pull the trigger. It was only a 2 year marriage. However, it if go closer to 4 years, there would had been asset division. If you can believe, a week after marriage, she asked for her name to be put on the house that I’ve owned prior to meeting her? I said no chance. Yet, I still only have sorrow for her, not hate or anger.

    Since I’ve divorced her, my finances have repaired, I am rebuilding my business, my health has gotten better and I am generally happier. However, I have a great distain for women now. I tolerate them, but I always wonder, what are they really thinking. Nothing has changed me more in my 40+ years living on this planet than marriage and divorce. The woman could be a billionaire, and I wouldn’t marry again. Why do women, highly educated women, underestimate us guys? They take kindness for weakness.

    The question, again, is why don’t I have any anger or hatred towards her? Even the lawyer, wanted to slam her through the floor, I wouldn’t do it. I said I just want out of the contract. I gave her all the wedding gifts, cash, bedroom furniture and my rights to her pension. I am not a vindictive person. I am more of a person who speaks softly but carries a big stick. The failure of the marriage is still quite painful. I feel like I was forced to file in order to protect what I have left. Not only that, what was I gaining in the marriage? No love (she refused to kiss me for almost 2 years), no sex, no cooking, she was a slob, going to her parents every week, etc. Would you believe, she made fun of my shoulder surgery cause the cartilage makes a cracking sound in front of my parents and her family? After that, I told her she’s never coming to my Mom’s house again. Would you believe, at her 40th birthday party, I was not allowed to have any input? Her mom did everything. Yet, it was my idea. Not only that, the photo’s she took were of everyone aside from me and my remaining family. I feel played, but I didn’t really lose anything aside from time. I thought I was marrying my friend, let alone I married a person who just wanted the title of wife. Yet, again, I’d find her taking off or not wearing her wedding ring all the time.

    There should be a warning label on the bottom of the marriage license. Things which appear in life may not necessarily be the truth. Please think about what the other person is getting out of entering into a contract with you.

    I realize I was lucky in terms of only having to pay 35k in legal fees. However, what the hell is wrong with these people… More importantly, why, after typing all of this, can’t I get angry at my ex-wife. All I feel is pity towards her.

    #508061
    MR TV
    MR TV
    Participant

    One of the most pervasive concepts(myths) of MGTOW and other men’s right’s movements, as well as PUA literature is the concept of the “alpha male”. According to PUA literature, the “alpha gets the pussy, the beta has to go home and play with himself”. I’ve seen MGTOW people complaining that the “alpha’s” get all the chicks, while “beta’s” are left out of the process. God, how I wish it were true! I excel at everything I do, a lot of people say I’m the best in my field, yet here in LA, I’m constantly getting dumped in favor of losers, bums, and hoodlums. Another concept I’ve read in PUA literature is the concept of DHV, “demonstration of higher value”. This is another concept I would have to question the validity of.
    I first got out here to LA in the late ’90’s and started a career as a street performer on Venice Beach. I met a chick on the beach one day who seemed to be attracted to me. We began talking about literature and I mentionWeed one of the books I had written.(I’ve written 4 books for Simon and Schuster). She gasped in amazement when I told her my name and the names of the books I had written. Her jaw was practically hanging down to the sidewalk in amazement. Apparently, she had some of my books and was a fan. We had dinner together and I felt like I had met someone, which was nice–I was lonely. I saw her the next day and she shrugged me off–she never got together with me again. A few weeks later I saw on the 3rd Street Promenade talking to a girlfriend.
    “What happened to your boyfriend?” the girlfriend asked.
    “He’s in jail,” she replied.
    “For what,” the girlfriend asked.
    “Heroin, it was stupid!”, she replied.
    Of course nothing SCREAMS alpha male like being a heroin addict in jail, and for that matter, what could be more “beta” than being a famous writer and writing for Simon and Schuster? And I can only assume that being a heroin addict is a demonstration of higher value, while being a famous writer is not.
    I remember meeting another chick on Venice Beach who performed as a clown out there, who called herself “Rainbow”. She seemed to be attracted to me and we had some drinks together. Before I left the bar she put her arms around me and whispered in my ear, “You’ve got the best act on Venice Beach!”, in a breathy, sexy voice. About a week later I called her and asked her to meet me on the beach. When I got there, I realized she had stood me up. I called her number, but no answer. Another time I called her and she hung up on me when I identified myself. A few years later, I saw her on the beach and she was dating some homeless drug dealer. I’m sorry that having “the best act on Venice Beach” is a quality of an “alpha” male and the really cool people are homeless drug dealer.
    I met another chick at a poetry reading at a coffee shop and she said she thought I was a “genius”. I got her phone number and we made a date, but she stood me up. When I went back out to the boardwalk I noticed that all the guys with cardboard signs that said things like “Why Lie, I Need a Beer”, all had girlfriends. I wish being a “genius”, doesn’t qualify me as an “alpha” male, if I was one of the alcoholics with a cardboard sign, I guess I would have a girlfriend.
    This type of behavior continued all the years I worked as a street performer in California. I kept getting better and better at what I was doing and making more and more money, and yet kept getting dumped in favor of homeless guys who didn’t have a dime to their names. After working as a street performer for 10 years, I developed an act called, “The Bank Robbery”. People started saying I had the best act in the country. “You’re the best”, “You’re a genius!”, and “Greatest Act Ever” were some of the comments I heard on a regular basis. The “G” word (genius) is a compliment I’ve gotten so often I’ve gotten used to it. In every city I performed in the newspapers did a story about me, in Santa Cruz 2 local TV stations did pieces on me, and the San Francisco Chronicle had an interview and a full color picture of me doing my act. (A lot of other artists were jealous.) On just about every strip I worked I was the superstar, the highest earner on the strip. Yet, I still ran into the same strange behavior, the women I met stood me up, and the guys who had girlfriends were homeless guys, addicts, and alcoholics. Does anyone understand why this is? I saw a men’s right’s video recently that said that women objectify men as “providers” and are attracted to men who are high earners. What a joke that is!! If That’s true, why am I the one who’s always single and the guys who don’t have 2 cents to their name have beautiful girlfriends?
    Finally, more and more people were saying that I had the best act in the country and that I should “go Hollywood”, so I auditioned for and was accepted by “America’s Got Talent”, the #1 show in the country on NBC. I was blown away to appear on “America’s Got Talent”, the #1 show in the country, but again, no date! I had met a chick on Facebook named Amanda and asked her to go with me, but she never showed up. After we taped “America’s Got Talent”, I went back to Venice Beach and there was a guy with a cardboard sign that said, “Kick me in the Nuts for a Dollar”. I asked him about it and he said, “I have to do something, my wife is going to have a baby!” Of course, nothing SCREAMS alpha like having a cardboard sign that says “Kick me in the nuts for a dollar”, and what could be more “beta” than appearing on NBC’s “America’s Got Talent” and hanging out with people like Nick Cannon and Howie Mandell?
    The same was true when they aired my segment of “America’s Got Talent” on NBC a few months later. I tried to get a chick named Indigo to come over and watch it with me, but she refused. I met another chick on the beach named “Jaqueline” and she saw me doing the “Bank Robbery” and said she thought I was “going to be huge!”, but she was not interested in coming over and watching America’s Got Talent with me. Around this time I was hanging out with a guy named “Animal”, his real name was Andy, but people called him Animal. He was homeless and I agreed to let him and his girlfriend stay at my place for a few nights. Animal was an all right guy, but sometimes I was embarrassed to hang out with him. He was a cigarette bum. Anyone who was smoking a cigarette, he’d go up to them and he was like, “Can you kick me down a cigarette?” He also bummed food from people, beers, weed, anything and everything. I wondered why someone like that, who slept in a doorway and was basically a bum, would have a beautiful, young girlfriend, while I had just been on America’s Got Talent and had been unable to find a date. Is everyone out here in California crazy or what?
    A few months later I appeared on another TV show, “Freakshow” on AMC. I had pitched the producer and he waited several months and then finally said “yes”, he wanted to have me on. I was walking on air, to be selected for another national TV show. I had met a chick at a party named Sasha. I emailed her and told her I was excited that I was going to be on national television again and wanted to know if she wanted to have dinner with me to celebrate. I saw her later and she said, “I never got back you on the email, I’ll get back to you next week.” But she never did. I asked Amanda (the chick I met on Facebook) if she would come over and watch it with me when it was broadcast. She never showed up, but called at 4:00 am and told me she hoped it went well. (Like I said, everyone out here is crazy!) I was seeing a chick named “Sublime” and I asked her to come over and watch it with me. She watched at her place, but refused to come over and watch it with me. So, I watched it BY MYSELF, just like I watched myself on AMERICA’S GOT TALENT BY MYSELF!!
    I started performing in comedy clubs in LA in 2010. I found the same strange behavior there also. I started doing my street act, “The Bank Robbery” at open mics and in comedy clubs. The first night I did “Bank Robbery” in a comedy club, the next comedian stopped the show. “I have to say something about that last act”, he began, “THAT WAS FANTASTIC!” The other comedians began stopping the show EVERY NIGHT to comment on my act. “I,…uh,….don’t know how to follow that last guy was a comment I was getting a lot. However, whenever I met a chick, the same thing kept occurring, they either stood me up or didn’t return my emails. I also continued seeing chicks dating alcoholics and losers. One night I was performing in a comedy club called “Sal’s Comedy Hole” and the comedian was walking through the audience talking to people and asking them questions. “My girlfriend and I are living in my car!” answered one guy. I looked and saw that he was sitting next to a beautiful blond in her early ’20’s.
    Another erroneous concept I’ve seen several times on the internet is the concept of “sexual marketplace value”. Supposedly, your sexual market place value is connected to your status. Am I to assume that a cigarette bum is high status, while being on America’s Got Talent is not. Yet this concept, like the TOTALLY ERRONEOUS concept of the “alpha male” is never challenged on the internet. Except for the article I’m presently writing I’ve never seen these concepts challenged. I should add that I’ve never experienced this phenomenon anywhere else but kooky California. I was in New Orleans a few years ago and chicks were lining up to date me when they saw me doing the “Bank Robbery”.
    Does anyone have an explanation for this strange behavior? Does anyone else have the experience of constantly excelling at everything you do and getting dumped in favor of losers and hoodlums? Can anyone help me understand what I call, “The Myth of the Alpha Male”?

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    Syria Situation Report 10th June 2017

    Main news from The Saker/Scott Humor [1][2]:

    – Syrian Arab Army and Hezbollah have reached the border with Iraq and linked with Iraqi forces unchallanged. US/Israeli airpower and ISIS forces absent.

    – Russian MoD has released a statement that the Syrian civil war has ended. Russia-brokered ceasefire negotiated with non-ISIS Syrian forces within Syria has been implemented and is holding.

    – Civilians starting to return to homes as process of rebuilding is expected to begin. Russian aid corridor allows UN aid agencies, Red Crescent and Red Cross safe access to civilian areas.

    – SAA forces have encircled the city of Raqqa . The Syrian Army’s Tiger Forces reached the area controlled by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) west of Tabqa after liberating about two dozens of villages. The SAA expansion in the Raqqa province may also push the US-backed SDF to support the ISIS-held provincial capital from the southern direction.

    – the US and allies decide to withdraw ‘moderate rebels’ from further action to take Deir Ezzor from ISIS and avoid further confrontations – for now. The fate of the YPG Kurdish militia in Raqqa remains unclear.

    -Turkish forces are still conducting operations against the Kurds on the northern border with Syria.


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      Featured image: Updated map of the situation on the battlefield in S-E Syria after SAA & allies reached the border with Iraq via Enrico Ivanov ‏ @Russ_Warrior

    The Syrian Arab Army and their allies have bypassed US proxies/forces in Al Tanf and reached the Iraqi border meeting up with Al Hashd Al Shaabi today

      Leith Abou Fadel on Twitter confirms that according to the official military source in southeast Homs it is confirmed that the Syrian Army and allies reached the Iraqi border.
      “This news is from the soldiers there. So it is true about the SAA reaching the Iraqi border. A source at the border told the Al-Masdar team that there is an agreement between the US and Russians northeast of Al Tanf. No idea why. Why the US would agree to allow the Syrian Army to take the border northeast of Tanf is beyond me. Those airstrikes seem ridiculous now.
      “The U.S. basically gave up on the rebels today [9th June 2017]. Not allowing them to advance to Deir Ezzor is a final nail in their coffin.
      “Also, I can confirm this as of now: Syrian Army and their allies have liberated the Talilah Reserve. Now, the Russian MoD map is right [and not the one given by the US coalition].”
      Earlier today the Head of the Russian General Staff Main Operations Department Sergey Rudskoy: stated that the civil war in Syria has practically ended.

    According to Almasdar News report,

      “Late on Friday afternoon, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA), Hezbollah and allied Iraqi paramilitary contingents dashed through southeastern Homs and reached an Iraqi border point, thus slicing adrift the frontline between rebel forces based in the Al-Tanf region and ISIS militants in the neighboring Deir Ezzor governorship.
      “Unopposed by the US Airforce and its vetted Syrian proxies, the SAA and its allies drove through over 40 kilometers of abandoned desert territory and managed to link up with an Iraqi garrison across the border.”
      “The advance was confirmed by the Russian Ministry of Defence and an Hezbollah-linked outlet moments ago.”

    Russia’s Ministry of Defense statement that the civil war in Syria is over means that going forward any hostilities, including those conducted by the US and its proxies, will be viewed as terror attacks.

    Transcript of the briefing by the Chief of the Main Operations Department Colonel General Rudskoy and Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Army [Group] in the Syrian Republic – Colonel General Sergei Surovikin. [3]

    Chief of the Main Operations Department Colonel General Rudskoy

    “The Russian Federation continues to provide help to the Syrian population in fighting ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist grouping and taking steps to resolve the conflict. Thus the main efforts are focused on ensuring the cessation of hostilities in Syria.

    “Thanks to the purposeful activity of the Russian Center For Reconciliation of Opposing Sides today 1571 agreements of ceasefire have been signed by the representatives of the inhabited areas.

    “Moreover the number of armed formations which have agreed to observe the ceasefire regimen is 219.

    “The situation has dramatically improved after signing of the Memorandum on the Establishment of De-escalation Zones in the Syrian Republic on 4th May 2017 in Astana.

    “The civil war in Syria has actually stopped.

    “In addition the establishment of the Memorandum has allowed work to begin on rebuilding war-torn inhabited areas. Civilians have begun to return to liberated cities and towns.

    “Households of ordinary citizens, power supply facilities, transport hubs and roads are being restored’ channels for irrigation of agricultural land are filling with water.

    ‘Schools are being repaired in order that the maximum number of children could continue the learning process.

    “Humanitarian access [corridors] to the inhabited areas located in zones of de-escalation have been revived.

    “During the last month [of May] 14 humanitarian convoys have been sent by humanitarian organisations which greatly improved the situation of the population.

    “After opening of a humanitarian corridor to al-Wafidin organised with the participation of the Russian Center For Reconciliation of Opposing Sides humanitarian assistance from the UN, the International Committee of the Red Cross, and Red Crescent Societies in Eastern Ghouta have started.

    “It is possible to reduce the prices of basic foodstuffs in these suburbs of Damascus by 30%-60%. Russian Center For Reconciliation of Opposing Sides conducted 169 humanitarian actions in which the population received 17 tonnes of and over ten-and-a-half thousand Syrians received medical treatment.

    “Humanitarian de-mining in the areas liberated from militants is being provided. On the 2nd June 2017 at the Russian Branch of the International Anti-Mine Center in Aleppo another graduation [ceremony] of students was held.

    “Ninety-two Syrian sappers <<Y viz. combat engineers trained in explosives and mine warfare Y>> were sent to de-mine the city of Maskana and other inhabited areas in the Eastern parts of the provinces of Aleppo and Homs recently liberated from the jihadists.

    “In accordance with the Memorandum [of de-escalation] the Joint Working Group on de-escalation has been formed and which is actively functioning. Three meetings have been held. The map that shows the areas of de-escalation and the security zones has been developed. The draft of this Joint Working Group has been prepared.

    “At the fifth international meeting on Syria in the framework of the Astana format it is expected to approve the main documents regulating the border and the procedure of control over observation of cessation of hostilities in the areas of de-escalation.

    “In order to avoid losses among the civilian population the operation of the withdrawal of the militants and their families from the suburbs of Damascus and Homs was carried out and held with the participation of the Russian Center For Reconciliation of Opposing Sides .

    “Within this operation 1853 militants and 5012 members of their families have been exported from the suburbs of the Syrian [provincial] capitals of Bursa and Kabun in the province of Idlib.

    “Currently engineers are working in these inhabited areas checking buildings for the presence of explosive devices left by the militants.

    “Restoration of vital infrastructure and social infrastructure is being undertaken. Citizens of these areas are returning to civilian life.

    “The two-month operation for withdrawing members of illegal armed groups from al-Vaer in the suburb of Homs is finished.

    “According to the agreements reached in Jerablus in the province of Aleppo and in Idlib – 19653 people including 6964 militants have been exported.

    “After the withdrawal of the militants in al-Warp about 8000 civilians have returned [there].

    “In addition in the Northern part of the province of Damascus in the cities of Zabadani, Madaya and Bukan – 2640 militants former militants have settled their status [accepted amnesty] taking advantage of the Amnesty Ordinance.

    “The success of the political settlement of the Syrian conflict – including four zones of de-escalation [aimed at] reducing the number of violations of the ceasefire regime – allowed the troops in the Syrian Arab Republic to focus on elimination of ISIS forces in the eastern part of the country.

    “With the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces major successes were achieved in almost all areas [of the fighting].

    “I want to note that the [Syrian] government forces with the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces are not fighting against the Syrian opposition. They are consistently reaching the main target – destruction of ISIS, Jabhat al-Nusra and their affiliated terrorist groups.

    “At the same time, we do not see significant results of the fight against ISIS by the coalition led by the United States. Declaring that the purpose of the fight is against international terrorism – the coalition [carries out] strikes on Syrian troops, frees ISIS militants from areas of encirclement, strengthening terrorist groups in the areas of Palmyra and Daer – Ezzor.

    “I want to ask why are they doing this and what real purpose they serve? Now we see that the coalition’s actions only prevent elimination of groups of ISIS by [Syrian] government forces.

    “We expect that our coalition partners would take measures to prevent such incidents and will be engaged in the fight against terrorist groups and ISIS in Syria.

    “About the results of operations for the liberation of the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic conducted by government forces – this will be reported by Colonel General Surovikin.”

    Colonel General Surovikin:

    “Hello.

    “In the last month [May – June 2017] Syrian government troops and [allied] militia units are developing success in the North-East of the province of Aleppo, Palmyra, the Eastern Qalamoun and in the south of Syria. They are moving along the Syrian-Jodanian border and the border with Iraq.

    “ As a result a large group if ISIS was defeated while the enemy suffered significant losses in manpower and hardware.

    “During the month – a 109 inhabited areas and 3922 square kilometres of territory have been liberated from the militants. During this time the Russian Aerospace Force aircraft performed1268 sorties and destroyed 3200 terrorist targets – including command posts, weapons depots and ammunition supply bases and training camps of militants.

    “In the North-East province, the offensive along the western bank of the Euphrates River is rapidly developing [escalating]. Units of the Syrian Armed Forces (SAA) and militia units knocked the ISIS militants out of the main cities such as Maccana, Ratman, Shatha, and approached the city of al-Tabka. Control over the Giro strategic airport was taken.

    “The attack rate of the [Syrian] government forces increased to 8 kilometers per day. In total [in this area] 83 settlements and more than 500 square kilometres of territory have been liberated from terrorists. [Here] 3000 ISIS militants, including a few dozen commanders, as well as more than 20 tanks, 7 infantry fighting vehicles and 9 artillery guns of large calibre have been destroyed.

    “The command staff of the Russian Forces [Army Group] in the Syrian Arab Republic closely monitor the situation east of Raqqua where we have seen how the militants freely leave the city and its suburbs.

    “According to reports in early June 2017, ISIS forces are in agreement [collaboration] with the command of Kurdish troops {members of the ‘Union of Democratic Forces’) left the inhabited areas of al-Tad’ah, al-Hammam without resistance – located 19 kilometres southwest of Raqqua and moved in the direction of Palmyra.

    “Instead of eliminating terrorists responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent Syrian citizens, the coalition, headed by the United States , along with the ‘Union of Democratic Forces’ collude with the leaders of ISIS – who without a fight leave occupied inhabited [areas] and move to those provinces where Syrian government forces are operating [as reinforcements].

    “It seems the American party uses ISIS to prevent the [Syrian] government troops from advancing under the cover [pretext]of fighting against terrorism.

    “At the same time – certain western media agencies misinform the world community talking about harsh combat actions with the ISIS insurgents in the Raqqa province.

    “All the attempts of the ISIS terrorists to pass through the corridor located in the south of Raqqa are timely detected and supressed by the reconnaissance means [abilities] of the Russian Command in Syria.

    “[Examples are] on 25th May 2017 the Russian Aerospace Forces eliminated a terrorist column heading towards Palmyra. On the 29th – 30th May 2017 another example of [an] ISIS insurgents’ column to leave Raqqa was stopped. As a result 80 terrorists, 8 fuel tanker trucks and 17 piackups with heavy armament were eliminated.

    “Other minor ISIS groups managed to escape and hide in well – prepared transhipment bases and caves in the Hama and Homs provinces – discovered by reconnaissance means. They were engaged on 30th May 2017 by the Admiral Essen frigate and the Krasnodar submarine from the Eastern part of the Mediterranean by means of Kalibr cruise missiles. According to the objective monitoring data – all the assigned targets were hit.

    “Near Palmyra the [Syrian] government troops and militia detachments successfully conducted offensive actions against ISIS groups in the north-west, east and south-east directions –pushing them out of commanding heights and expanding the security zones around the strategic highway [of] Damascus – Palmyra and the Tifor airfield.

    “In the course of the combat terrorists were dislodged from the gas-field ‘Shaer’ that caused serious damage to their economic potential – depriving them of income through illegal hydrocarbon extraction. The Syrian army has taken hold of 3 cities and 66 important heights near Palmyra.

    “The [Syrian] government troops have approached the Araq town[ship] – the capture of which will create further conditions for further offensives towards Es-Soukhnae and Dier-Ezzor.

    “The situation to the south of Palmyra has been considerably improved. The [Syrian] government troops have defeated the large number of ISIS groups to the south-west of l-Basiri. [This is] 3200 square kilometres of territory as well as 20 inhabited areas Mkhassi, al-Basiri and al-Barda [that] have been liberated from the terrorists. The phosphate fields have been put under [SAA] control.

    “The offensive toward Abu-Kamal is developing successfully. The advancement constitutes 184 km. The [Syrian] government troops have mopped up the al-Buda town[ship] and reached the Syrian-Iraq border – which is 40 km to the south [of this position].

    “In cooperation with the Russian Centre For Reconciliation of Opposing Sides, detachments of the Free Syrian Army acting to the north-east of the Dumeira town[ship] are conducting ceasefire negotiations with the authorities.

    “The position of the [Syrian] government troops in the southern part of the Es-Suweida province has been improved. The Syrian Armed Forces have been able to capture a number of strategic heights and communications in this region –depriving terrorists from free transportation of reserves and cargoes in the south of the country.

    “However in the course of the offensive the [Syrian] government troops faced resistance from the aviation of the international US-led coalition. The American party has put forward a groundless ultimatum not to approach the positions of the [US coalition’s] New Syrian Army.

    “They say that the [Syrian] government troops constitute a threat to the American bases and camps used for training of opposition combatants in the south of Syria. As a result –the coalition’s aviation and combatants’ checkpoints of the New Syrian Army have blocked the way for the [Syrian] government troops – which are currently defeating the ISIS groupings and carry out the control using the outposts on the border with Iraq to the north – east of al-Tanfa to Abu-Kemal.

    “This is the breach of the sovereign right of the Syrian Arab Republic to defend its borders. The representatives of the US military command explain that [Syrian] government troops constitute a danger for them.

    There is no explanation what kind of danger is meant and what its source is. It looks like not the ISIS terrorists, but the [Syrian] government troops are dangerous for the coalition.

    “Meanwhile the Russian Command in Syria takes every effort for reconciliation of the opposing sides and providing security for the Syrian military groupings. Despite this resistance, in the course of the offensive of the Syrian Army and the militia detachments against the ISIS positions – they have taken control of over 105 kilometres of the Syrian-Jordanian border.

    “Twenty-two town[ships] have signed reconciliation agreements that means the successful termination of the reconciliation process with the Druzes and the Bedouin tribes.

    “The actions of the [Syrian] government troops aimed at recovering control over the Syrian-Jordanian and Syrian-Iraqi borders are continuing.

    “It is to be highlighted that the Russian servicemen jointly with the Syrian government troops are taking every effort for recovering peace on Syrian soil avoiding unnecessary violence and saving people’s lives.

    “Along with that, terrorists’ attempts to disturb the peace-making process will be severely suppressed.

    “The counter-terrorist operation on the territory of the Syrian Arb Republic will be continued until the complete elimination of the ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra groupings.

    “Thank you”

    End of Transcript [3]

    Russia’s Ministry of Defense statement that the civil war in Syria is over means that going forward any hostilities, including those conducted by the US and its proxies, will be viewed as terror attacks.

    June 9 is a 50th anniversary of Israel’s occupation of Syrian territory of Golan Heights.

    As reported by Xinhua [4] Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed Tuesday to “forever” maintain control of the Golan Heights, which was captured during the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, or the Six Day War. “I came to tell you that the Golan Heights will always remain under Israeli sovereignty. We will never leave the Golan Heights. It is ours.”

    Despite the pledge, the international community, including its closest ally the United States, has never recognized Israeli sovereignty in the Golan Heights. Israel has tried all means, though in vain, to legitimize its control over Syria’s territory. Last year, on the 49th anniversary of the war, Netanyahu made identical declarations.

    However, since the announcement of the end of the Syrian war was made at this particular day, the Syrian MoD might consider the occupation to be temporary.

    Meanwhile in Lebanon

    Washington is preparing the “legal grounds” to start attacks on Hezbollah, which is a parliamentary party in Lebanon.

    Yesterday, the US justice department reported the arrests of two American citizens, Ali Kourani, 32, of the Bronx, New York, and Samer el Debek, 37, of Dearborn, Michigan, aka, “Samer Eldebek,” “arrested on Thursday, June 1, on charges related to their alleged activities on behalf of Hizballah, a designated foreign terrorist organization.”

    They are being accused in “allegedly conducted covert surveillance of potential targets, including U.S. military bases and Israeli military personnel here in New York City. ”
    Remarkably, the court complaints against them have been unsealed
    Russia considers Hezbollah a legitimate sociopolitical organization. The People’s Republic of China remains neutral, and maintains contacts with Hezbollah.

    These arrests for “alleged” crimes point to the possibility of an oncoming “regime change” operation in Lebanon, since a newly elected Christian Lebanese President Michel Aoun calls Hezbollah a part of the Lebanese Defence Forces.

    In 2014, the term of Lebanon’s former president, Michel Nouhad Suleiman, ended. Lebanon then entered a state of political crisis which lasted more than two and a half years. According to Lebanon’s Constitution, only a Maronite Christian can be elected president by the country’s parliament.

    As of today, Lebanon’s parliament is practically divided in half, with pro-Western and pro-Syrian blocs opposing each other. General Michel Aoun was considered to be the leading candidate for the country’s presidency throughout the 29 months of political crisis. General Aoun was backed by the Shiite party Hezbollah, as Secretary General Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah stated earlier in October. His candidacy was also supported by the pro-Syrian bloc.

    A representative of the pro-Western ‘March 14’ Alliance, Samir Geagea, was considered to be General Aoun’s main rival in the elections. Initially, Geagea was supported by the Sunni party al-Mustaqbal, but earlier in October the party’s leader Saad Hariri declared he would be voting for Aoun.

    Citations
    [1] http://thesaker.is/breaking-news-syrian-army-hezbollah-reach-border-with-iraq/
    [2] https://southfront.org/syrian-war-report-june-9-2017-syrian-army-advancing-in-raqqah-province/
    [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWLDkStKOmc [ with English sub-titiles].
    [4] http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-06/07/c_136347059.htm
    [5] https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201610311046913795-lebanon-michel-aoun/

    #506581
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    It took 4 years for us to finally get mgtow.com.

    I know that you have to do some study on servers, forum software(s), ISP’s, backup hardware, expansion plans, virus attack defenses, DoS attack defenses, create logos, brandings, videos, gifs…

    Get all the legal work, protect your brand name. Or keep others from registering it to throw you out…

    Just all that goes with it and if you are not a millionaire to hire a team then it takes a while.

    And you have to go to regular work to make a living while that project is still in it’s unprofitable starting phase.

    Most good inventions took some time, money, consistency and a lot of trial and error.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

    #505999

    Anonymous

    I think you will find that the men who were divorced who haunt this site are not dirtbags, drug infested drunks, ne’er do wells, loser failures, bad hombres or bulls~~~ artists.

    I married my special snowflake because of an oops baby…lol she forgot her pill and poked holes in the condoms. She works as an accountant/computer software specialist. Coming out of college I worked as a translator and computer sales. She got a high paying job, and my job was paying for babysitting, so I stayed home with the kids. When the kids grew old enough I was going back to college. I volunteer taught an art class in all 6 grades of the elementary school where my kids attended, and upon graduation I would have had a job at the neighborhood school. I was on the dean’s list 4.00 GPA, volunteered at the church, did rail trail clean ups.

    We were an ok fit starting out, she had some bills, student loans and a s~~~ credit score, but high income. I had good credit, paid into her loans and college expenses, but s~~~ income. I put what I had into her so we could make it financially, then I could go back to school. Anything I made would go right into savings. She made $100K right out of college, and I was making $40K. Imagine saving $70K a year for a few years? OMG that was the plan.

    Until she started buying stuff, baskets birdhouses pillows, new furniture every year, vacations cruises, scrapbooking s~~~, new cars, cellphones, big ass tv, landscaping, giving money away to family, she came close to secretly buying an entire house and scrapbook store that I would be working in. So no savings, she p~~~ed it all away.

    My ex beat me down horribly while we were married, ultimately stabbing me through the hand and pinning me to a counter in the kitchen during an argument over which way the points on silverware go in the dishwasher, I went with points down so you don’t stab yourself. lol she proved my umm point. To shut me up, and to fix the damaged and bloodied kitchen, she bought a $20,000 kitchen remodel that I designed. Stabbing, kicking, sitting on me beating me while I slept, jealousy, infidelity accusations, accusing me of fathering her sisters child when that little girl was born with blue eyes and a gap tooth smile. ummm what else, ooh yes the actual moment, she woke up, looked at me and said I’m not happy, you need to get out. Then she went out to make the kids breakfast and announced to the kids we were getting a divorce and I was leaving. She told me to my face that she and the kids would be better off without me, and then left for the day to go see a movie. I think she expected me to leave while they were gone. The next day in a fit of misery and defeat I sat in my backyard having a chat with my mower gas can and a BBQ lighter. I felt like I had nothing left to live for. How had I f~~~ed up? Why was my special snowflake doing this to me? I’m sitting there flicking the lighter on and off, staring at the flame. Was she right? Was I a total loser…I’m teaching in the kids school kids all over town ask me what they are doing in art next time, the church loves it when I do thing, I made sets for the kids dance studio, I’m doing well in college…I’m doing well everywhere except in the wife’s head. I don’t drink, I don’t chase women, I don’t do drugs, I don’t gamble, I fold laundry, do dishes, changed diapers, dressed Barbie dolls, potty trained, teach the kids to read and write, have manners and learn how to do things for themselves. I was the dad my kids friends told me they wish they had. What the f~~~ am I doing going to burn myself to death in the backyard?

    Cops came around a week later to remove me from my house, and came damn close to shooting my brother. I spend almost a year living in a minivan at a truck stop while going to school to get a teaching certificate. In those 6 years, I found tracking devices, been in car chases trying to get away from her, she has kicked my apartment door in, almost ran me over a couple times with my kids in her truck, I filed 5 complaints against her with no action, moved 200 miles away and found private investigators following me, listening devices in the kids toys, she ordered her live in Chad to drop off and pick up my kids, driving 100 miles each way, I was put in jail for not having a 20 hour a week minimum wage job by a certain date, but before the court date, held in contempt, now it is harder for me to find a teaching job, she finally poisoned my kids against me and a court order keeps me from communicating with them, retroactive child support order made me homeless again, living in a tent at a trailer park in SWKS.

    Do you see where I am going here? Looking at me story, I am not Mr. Badass. F~~~, I am my own action hero. I should have an action figure and a movie…

    I used to go to a 24 hour palace of a gym and beat a racquetball for 2 hours a night trying to figure out why I was thrown away. An hour in the sauna didn’t bring me any answers either. Our divorce took 6 years to complete, at a cost to me of over $300,000. We were in court every week for a while, for nonsense bulls~~~ she would make up, and then not appear for the hearing. Once to collect on money I made as an intern at a child care lab on campus…I made $2500, owed her $700, we went through 11/12? court dates costing me thousands of dollars of lawyer idle time in court. Recreational litigation my lawyer called it…f~~~ me in the bungus I call it. Each court date was the possibility of being held in contempt. There was a bus station next to the court bunker. To me the smell of freedom is bus diesel exhaust.

    The only way I found peace was to move 900 miles away. I had to leave my children behind. Jebus on the cross, we sat there in this little podunk town there on Route 55, sitting on a high concrete sidewalk telling my kids I had a job far away. They were crushed, but told me to be a good teacher because I was a good daddy, maybe those kids out there needed me too.

    Part of my bitterness comes from having to pay child support to someone who makes more in a month than I make in net pay all year. I heard you blink. She makes about $15,000 a year gross per month, I make $13,000 net all year. after taxes, after Child Support, after retirement and other deductions. Oh and rent is half of my take home. After bills, utilities I have $100 left over. I am self sufficient by the barest of margins.

    I looked back on the other three long term relations~~~s I had, and realized a pattern

    1. easy to talk to girls looking for attention stayed with me…all had distant fathers, divorced parents, or dad was unavailable always fighting and backstabbing the mother

    2. gave into sexual activity very early.

    3. being with the woman was distracting and derailed my college education.

    4 after breaking up, these women had boyfriends the next week.

    5 all had cheated on me at least once.

    6. All friends stayed with her, never wanted me ever again.

    7. I paid for everything, zero return on investment. Women never paid me back for anything.

    8 I put tons of effort into the relations~~~, all I got was s~~~ upon.

    9 after breaking up, I was inconsolable trying to figure out how I failed, I did what ever they wanted, and still got f~~~ed.

    10 any meetings after breakup were contentious at best, near lethal with the ex wife.

    until I came here, I thought I was a colossal bumblef~~~, unable to sort out what had happened to me. Here I started reading about the same pattern of behavior, and guys working their asses off and getting no where. I learned about hypergamy, Briffault’s Law, solipsism, narcissistic behavior, and the phone call.

    Women are toxic creatures, syphoning off resources with the constant threat of false battery, false rape and false bulls~~~ that will put you in jail. Many men can tell you about the phone call.

    This is my favorite story. This says it all about women. And there is nothing men can do about this.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435317/Tried-sex-crime-brushed-past-film-star-rush-hour.html

    This site taught me this is a universal problem with women in western countries. There are heartbreaking video documentaries about Spain and Israel on you tube. There are hundreds of sites and videos talking about how toxic women are. At some point anecdotal evidence becomes real evidence. Rather than spending time money and effort finding a woman who wont wreck me. or be in a room alone with a woman, and not without some furniture between us.

    What woman would want me with $100 to my name, teaching 5th grade in a nowhere cow town in the ass end of Kansas? Nearest town is 65 miles away. I have 4 college degrees, speak 4 languages, have manners, no addictions, no tattoos, and not violent. I am absolutely useless to any decent woman. No money, no power, no property, but I’ll treat her well isn’t what women want.

    Divorce and criminal courts will punish a man every way possible. Every time I went to court with a complaint about the ex not being there with the kids for my parenting time, it was dismissed. Any time she thought I was breaking some rule, I was at risk of not smelling the diesel fumes. Since July of 2009 I keep a journal and receipts. I buy something every few hours and make sure I am on video at least 4 times a day. I have been called into court for malicious false bulls~~~ and beaten her every time with my day planner and receipts. Even 900 miles away, I establish my alibi at a convenience store, drive in window, or purchase at failmart. My life depends upon this stupidity.

    Most divorce cases have a file folder, maybe an inch thick. My case is in 5 banker boxes on a cart I was compelled by court order to reimburse the court. Only one other divorce court case is more massive, covering 3 8 foot high bookshelves in the court room, a 30 year weekly battle. Ho Lee Fuk! Suburban Chicago court, every morning there were maybe 400 or 500 people all having business with the divorce court…lines wrapped around the block, lol men went in one door and the women went in the other….kind of evolved that way, with armed cops on the man side, and no cops on the women side.

    I get your argument and am happy that you have found a woman who hasn’t turned on you, yet. Amigo, all women are like that, your special snowflake will turn on you as soon as you are unwilling or unable to provide what she needs. Someday, she will tell you she is not happy. Secretly, she has been seeing someone for a couple months and is afraid of getting caught. She wants to throw you away on her terms, not yours. I think you will find the vast majority here live alone and have gone monk for life. Personally I think you are living dangerously. You go your way, I’ll go mine. Good luck, brother.

    Demographics on this site may be a little skewed in favor of men who were crushed and ass raped in divorce court. I can’t tell you all men here were destroyed. Many here saw the writing on the wall and got out of the game early in their 20’s. Good for them. I wish someone had told me how potentially damaging being with a woman was. No one in my family is divorced, I didn’t know any divorced families. Families stayed together no matter what.

    Sorry for the long post. I wanted to possibly clear up any misunderstanding you might have had about the men on this site. For conversations I have had since July of 2016, most of the men here are employed, many have computer related jobs, some are in construction and real estate, doctors, architects, factory workers, teachers, just ordinary people with a story to tell. Some of us have met up in real life, and had good things to say about each other. There is also a video chat thing once in a while.

    All the men here are fighters, not quitters, not losers. We have bad days, and temporary setbacks, but not quitters. We all hurt inside, and find peace here. We are all the good men that women complain have disappeared. We haven’t disappeared, we have weighed the risks of dating and relations~~~s, and decided that women are not worth the s~~~ vortex.

    lol I almost forgot the bitterness thing I am not bitter, I celebrate my freedom from a f~~~ed up relations~~~, and sad that my kids had to throw me away too. I was absolutely crushed in my marriage. I should not have married her without having resources and job skills that would have me be the breadwinner. When we met, we were both working entry level bulls~~~ jobs. She and I put together were able to make ends meet. Is it my fault for surrendering everything to someone who made more money than me…hmmm no. I was operating in the best interests of our family. S~~~ if your wife made $100 to 150K a year what would you do? In happier times, my kids will find me. The court ordered no contact is rescinded when they contact me. Paying her money keeps me from getting a 900 mile ride in the back of a police car to jail.

    If you are going to hang out here, please please please, no real names and if that is your real picture in your avatar, change it.

    I am glad you are here, brother. Welcome.

    #505793

    Thank you for the videos. But, the issue with Superman vs Hulk the strength of their powers vary wildly through their histories.

    The only version of the Hulk that Superman could go all out and it would be a challenge would be Green Scar Hulk. And that is DBZ level power there to the point there planet after their fight.

    Though, the first Red Hulk showed that a person with combat training and a sharp mind being given Hulk powers can hand Savage Hulk his ass on a platter.

    Presently, Superman comics are great with the Kent family. A lot of good stuff with Clark, Lois and their son Jon.

    Unfortunately, Marvel Comics has flushed the Hulk franchise (along with most of their franchises) down the toilet. If you want a good Hulk saga, start when the Hulk is shot into space and stop at the end of the volume where Doom helps Hulk split from Banner.

    The Hulk franchise starts going downhill after Banner is shot in the head.

    Personally, I believe the Hulk franchise peaked at the fight between Green Hulk and Red Hulk in D.C. in Hulk Volume 2 Issue 24. Decades of issues finally came to a head in that issue with a wonderful writing and a satisfying conclusion to that fight.

    #505769

    In reply to: Don't Date

    Duke Togo
    Duke Togo
    Participant

    The idea of “dating” to me now is something I think of as what Blue Pill Men do. While Red Pill Men can DEFINITELY “date”, for me, it just seems like that Ole Blue Pill Magic is Gone from that activity.

    I’m still “married” because of many rea$on$, but in the some ways, it doesn’t bother me because I don’t have any desire to date or have “relationships” that last longer then maybe 30 minutes anyways. If I was still Blue Pill, I would be all broken up because I am stuck in a “loveless marriage”, and I would really need to divorce, regardless of the per$onal con$equence$, because I would be desiring to “fall in love again”, or some other equally idiotic Blue pill notion.

    I still plan to Divorce when the time I$ Right for me, and not because I desire to “date”, “fall in love”, have a “relationship”, or anything else that doesn’t benefit ME.

    Awakened, first I just want to say, I have enjoyed reading your posts since you have joined. Second, I hope you and all your resources just disappear and leave your ex wife to be all alone wondering how the f~~~ SHE didn’t see it coming.

    As for dating, pfft who gives a s~~~? Leave that for the Chads and blue pill manginas, they need to learn some how don’t they before the come to their senses? Dating is one of the best ways for a man to finally decide to go his own way, hopefully without it leading to marriage.

    Beer
    Beer
    Participant

    Finally, they figured that President Hillary Clinton could take care of the problem, if necessary.

    This is huge right here. I’m pretty sure their plan from the start was that Obamacare was designed to fail, and as things continued to get worse they could blame insurance companies more and more and push harder for single payer.

    Only…its backfiring miserably for them. They lost power, they don’t have democrats controlling everything who can tweak it anytime they want, and its not making the insurance companies look bad at this point, its making the democrats look completely inept at healthcare reform. A few more years down the road and all Obamacare is going to be is pretty much all Obama’s entire 8 years in office was…a massive waste of money with pretty much nothing good to show for it.

    #504721
    NerdTunneler
    NerdTunneler
    Participant

    God damn it. I was there during Christmas when my wife had an ongoing affair. GOD how I HATE Christmas! I didn’t know of your situation and because I have seen many of your posts, I thought you were out of the s~~~. I know how hard it is but believe it or not, you have something I couldn’t imagine at the time. You have MGTOW. I sat in a home alone staring at a Christmas tree my wife and I put up and tried to drink myself to death for three days. It took me four weeks before everything I touched, tasted or smelled wasn’t brandy, even after washing, even if I went out for days. It’s like I can still taste it talking to you. I screamed: “GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!” I put my Glock 19 to my head but remembered a promise to never end it that way. So I made plans to drive over a cliff in the mountains. I got my keys for my final trip but the f~~~ing dog… You have us, all I had was my dachshund to make me think. So don’t f~~~ing TELL me you cannot survive this! I f~~~ing KNOW the pain, I am crying like a baby right now! YOU are a man! YOU will find a way out of the s~~~, somehow, someway. YOU have our Love because WE are MGTOW! It is your time to think and pray. You have God and you have us. If you have family, that is good because I have none.

    Thank you Brother for the tough love…Man, you really had it worse and during f~~~ing Christmas…I cant imagine the pain you had but I know its crippling…Just how heartless can the partner we cherished and loved suddenly do this to us…Because AWALT…Im glad you are alive Brother and made here to help others survive…I am glad that I found MGTOW in time and it helped me to grow roots before this coming s~~~ storm…I owe it to you guys that I can bounce back much quicker..Thank you…
    I too had an experience with an LTR…drove me nuts almost to suicide but I was too Christian to commit that sin..I did the “best” thing at the time and walked every night into a dangerous neighborhood hoping to get stabbed or shot and killed…Its a good thing nothing happened to me…We are surviving brother, the claws of those c~~~s are out of us…Now I have to mend these wounds that run deep and then I can really run unencumbered by craziness…WE ARE MGTOW…

    I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

    #504697
    Astro
    Astro
    Participant

    God damn it. I was there during Christmas when my wife had an ongoing affair. GOD how I HATE Christmas! I didn’t know of your situation and because I have seen many of your posts, I thought you were out of the s~~~. I know how hard it is but believe it or not, you have something I couldn’t imagine at the time. You have MGTOW. I sat in a home alone staring at a Christmas tree my wife and I put up and tried to drink myself to death for three days. It took me four weeks before everything I touched, tasted or smelled wasn’t brandy, even after washing, even if I went out for days. It’s like I can still taste it talking to you. I screamed: “GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!” I put my Glock 19 to my head but remembered a promise to never end it that way. So I made plans to drive over a cliff in the mountains. I got my keys for my final trip but the f~~~ing dog… You have us, all I had was my dachshund to make me think. So don’t f~~~ing TELL me you cannot survive this! I f~~~ing KNOW the pain, I am crying like a baby right now! YOU are a man! YOU will find a way out of the s~~~, somehow, someway. YOU have our Love because WE are MGTOW! It is your time to think and pray. You have God and you have us. If you have family, that is good because I have none.

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