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    That Beta guy reminds me of the same actor who played Neelix on Voyager. Internet God tells me it’s not but sure had me wondering.

    Do not let that small scene fool you, Stephen Furst (plays Vir) was a skilled actor.

    And Vir actually does have a spine, but given they were planning to kill their Emperor whom was completely insane, he is a little hesitant. This is understandable.

    If you have not watched at least the first four seasons of Babylon Five and the final episode, you need to. Season Five was not that good, but okay in tying plot line together. I suggest the Boxset DVD of the entire series, plus movies, and the Crusade series.

    If you watch the series, I suggest you first watch the pilot movie, then the series, at least to season two, then watch the movie In the Beginning because that movie is a prequel to the series with a lot of spoilers for the series itself, especially season one.

    #724539
    Zarathustra
    Zarathustra
    Participant

    It is worth becoming a Mason simply to experience the initiation ceremony. I cannot relate any details, obviously, but I can say the initiation is designed for one purpose only:

    To confront you with your own death and by doing so prepare you for that final moment. By doing so you realise your life on this planet is finite and that it is paramount to use what little time you have on the planet to better yourself and become the best man you can be.

    We do not EVER speak of women in the lodge and they are not permitted. This is a nice experience for the MGTOW, unlike here where we are MGTOW but talk about women incessantly. So think of it this way… ITs like being an MGTOW, just like this site, except while at lodge for a couple of hours you don’t think about or talk about women.

    Come to think of it maybe I will start going to lodge again.

    Fragmented
    Fragmented
    Participant

    Any man that gets married now, must be bozo the clown. The information and statistics aren’t hard to find. The knowledge is widely available. The feminists stranglehold on the courts is tight, and getting tighter by the day. There’s no excuse for a man to get married with all the information available online.

    Problem is most men are pressured by friends and family to sign the marriage contract because they can’t handle seeing a man off the plantation and this man must conform to the hive so he doesn’t make them look like the fools they are.

    On top of that add parents who want their “grandkids” along with shaming tactics and it is hard for people to reconcile what they see around them to the facts presented to them. They become so indoctrinated that most men just don’t want to believe or see the truth and instead want to make everyone around them happy by conforming. It is only after they go through the divorce process that they see how wrong all these people really are because these men always think “it will never happen to me my girlfriend/wife is a unicorn”.

    Some men just need to be burned bad in order to finally see and wake up it is nothing wrong with that it is just the way it is a lot of our brothers here understand this and have come to see that marriage was an error after going through the process of divorce.

    Oh for sure. My family used to try that on me, i just threw information at them at supersonic speed. They eventually gave up. I love most of my family, but nobody has the right to try n get me back on the plantation, not even them.

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    Rhino
    Rhino
    Participant

    Any man that gets married now, must be bozo the clown. The information and statistics aren’t hard to find. The knowledge is widely available. The feminists stranglehold on the courts is tight, and getting tighter by the day. There’s no excuse for a man to get married with all the information available online.

    Problem is most men are pressured by friends and family to sign the marriage contract because they can’t handle seeing a man off the plantation and this man must conform to the hive so he doesn’t make them look like the fools they are.

    On top of that add parents who want their “grandkids” along with shaming tactics and it is hard for people to reconcile what they see around them to the facts presented to them. They become so indoctrinated that most men just don’t want to believe or see the truth and instead want to make everyone around them happy by conforming. It is only after they go through the divorce process that they see how wrong all these people really are because these men always think “it will never happen to me my girlfriend/wife is a unicorn”.

    Some men just need to be burned bad in order to finally see and wake up it is nothing wrong with that it is just the way it is a lot of our brothers here understand this and have come to see that marriage was an error after going through the process of divorce.

    #723814
    Badger
    Badger
    Participant

    There has been a huge change from Obama in the tax cut. Corporations are giving out bonuses, raising wages in some companies, making plans to repatriate money held overseas (350 BILLION dollars by Apple), and moving businesses back to the United States. Finally, we have a President who is serious about stopping illegal immigration. Other members can list changes from prior administrations.

    #723663

    They all make noise afterwards, proclaiming how right they are. Wonder why they have to assert it so loudly? Think about it: it’s ’cause they know they’re wrong. Also, this is their chance to be the whiny brats they were born to be.

    They do it by downplaying the value of family, their marriage contract, and others to some level of skiddish consumer reflex. Like returning a half-used bottle of laundry detergent at Walmart. The other sinners in the world nod their heads in mutual agreement.

    There are no virtue police. Better watch yourself out there.

    Thanks Stealth. Absolutely could not have said it better myself. It’s sad how people who proclaim the loudest that they have finally found themselves, or become self actualized have to sell it with such volume and fervor. Truly comfortable, sane, kind, and loving types don’t need to wear their lifestyle on their sleeve as some kind of twisted daily reminder that others condone their choices. It’s a typical refrain in this entitled, selfish, and overly emotive society in which we live. I’m taking care of myself and my boys and plan to let nothing encroach on that mission.

    Thanks for your words and affirmations!

    "To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings.

    #723610

    In reply to: Metoo


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    In the tweet above I have finally heard the argument for making regret rape date rape.

    This is the tip of the spear making even concensual sex ill advised.

    What that tweet basically said that ‘if you regret sex later, it must have been non-consensual and, therefore, all regret sex is rape.

    See how easy that is to twist and turn the meanings.

    You must conclude that all heterosexual sex is now attempted rape and, no matter what you do, if she’s in a bad mood or get’s a headache, she knows that all she has to do is push the red button and your world will make you feel as bad as her hungover head makes her feel.

    This is the casual feminism practiced by nearly all women. The fear of her pushing that red button. Women desperately want a red button to destroy her man at a whim.

    Don’t be attached to a red button.

    My wife of nearly 7 years (three children) left on July 1st 2016. She asked me to meet her at a local tap room, and without looking at me for more than a passive glance, announced that she wanted a divorce. I knew something was up when she called me at 4pm on a Friday afternoon saying that she had found a “babysitter” for our kids and just wanted to see me (she never did stuff like this) but I never anticipated she was at the point of divorce. It was always up to me to coordinate with my parents if there was to be any kind of a “date” opportunity. Anyways, haven’t felt my gut retreat to the ass of my seat like it did in that moment ever before or since. She then got up and drove off, taking my children to parts unknown with her for 4 days. She would only text that she wanted me out of the house by the time she planned to return 5 days later, and that she was shutting off her phone.

    I had just started a terrific new job 3 weeks prior to this and I had thought things were going quite well at home. My ex was not verbally or physically abused EVER but she never hesitated to tell me “F~~~ YOU” if the feeling was right. I made ways for her to become a certified birth doula, start (and burn down) her own photography business, and stay home during the days with our boys. I worked my ass off as a 24/7 on call security site manager for Wells Fargo and provided a beautiful home for my family. It all fell apart when she finally succumb to the truth of her own sexuality as a lesbian (which she never voiced to me in marriage). I was also too naïve to be able to understand that a woman with the maternal instincts of my ex, could also be a lesbian who was more interested in simply having children than a family. She would eventually end up moving in with her muse after less than 2 months of first meeting her. I kept the house but had to pay tens of thousands to buy her out because I had so much equity. My family helped me with this otherwise it never would have been possible. My main goal was prioritizing what was best for my 3 boys (1, 4, and 6 yrs old at the time) and providing as much normalcy as possible. Considering that their mother saw fit to relocate them into a foreign place with another woman who decided to make up for what she lacked in looks by having a home full of dogs, cats, chickens, fish, and lizards.

    Anyways, a friend sent me a piece of literature that my dear ex wrote recently that really frames things up nicely. I’ll let you read it and then explain the inadequacies of her factual recall abilities:

    #Divorce Doula

    This is actually a whole blog full of things like “you deserve to have someone support you through ANY decision you may want to make, damn the consequences”. It’s basically an ode to selfishness through the eyes of a woman who says she wants to support mothers, but herself had to cut her own ability to mother by more than 60% to follow her own sexual proclivities. Notice where she says “I had no income to speak of”. This is patently untrue. She had 2 separate business and owned a photography studio. While she rarely put money in our joint account, I was always told that she spent her income on things for the house and kids so that was why she wasn’t making deposits. She asked me to grab her an article of clothing once and I discovered an envelope of close to a thousand dollars that she must have forgotten the location of. She sheepishly told me that it was a “vacation” fund she started for us. She never was very good at lying. She also had access to a credit card that was paid by the account I put my paychecks into. When I asked her if it was appropriate for her to continue spending money I would have to pay, she responded “sign the divorce papers and it will stop”. If you take the time to read any or all of her blog, I hope it is instructive. This is what men in our current society are up against and it’s a birds eye view to say the least.

    “The Village” was actually the foundation for my ex and her business partner to start a brick and mortar birth center in Sioux Falls SD. I supported this effort, and my wife at the time 100%. This was all pro bono stuff and it meant I’d get home from work, and she’d leave to “work”. This birth center came to a crashing halt as my ex is a profound bridge burner. The business partner split and took the center in a new direction, and my ex got the “village” Facebook group, and this blog apparently.

    Personally, I never saw myself in this situation. To add to all of the drama and craziness of divorce, my exes’ father was diagnosed with leukemia during the divorce process and died 9 months later. He passed not knowing that his daughter split up her family to be with another woman. The last text he ever sent me said “you need to figure out what you did, admit it, and pull you marriage back together”. I never had the heart to send him photos and items I had received from friends of my ex and her new muse together around our rather small city. He was dealing with enough and I thought my ex was an independent, strong woman who could be honest with her own dad. I’m curious if she’ll ever be independent and strong enough to curb my child support payments to her? Not holding my breath.

    For other single fathers out there, CHERISH THIS GIFT YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN! I had no idea the box I was living in until this woman exited my life. I had to fight tooth and nail to get my children 50/50 because I married a controlling, dishonest, purveyor of drama. Remember what I said before about her saying she’d stop spending on my credit card if I signed the divorce papers? She was actually trying to pressure me to take 60/40 custody of my boys. This was tantamount to blackmail but she was never held accountable for it because I just wanted it to be over and to avoid court (which I actually pulled off). The absolute best thing in the world is realizing my fatherly instincts now uninhibited by this sad excuse for a female, mother, friend, partner, etc. My time with my boys is so fruitful now, and it is the single most painful thing to realize that my “once married always married mentality” would have inhibited my ability to give my 3 sons the absolute best of me. I am truly thankful for where I find myself today and the MGTOW community.

    "To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings.

    #722594
    Rhino
    Rhino
    Participant

    Pros: Build equity and good investment. You don’t have to deal with noisy neighbors (make sure you spend a Friday and Saturday late at night to see if you will have good neighbors and no trains or plains making a ton of noise as sound can travel miles away depending on location).

    You get to drive up to the house and unload groceries and other heavy stuff right to your door. You can paint and renovate the interior of the house any way you like so long as it is nothing major like a new addition to make it your own.

    Cons: If anything breaks down be ready to pay large sums of money to fix it like a new roof or furnace (7k for roof and 10k for furnace in my area that I paid in the last few years). You will have to mow the lawn once a week year round or shovel snow in winter months either way you will be doing work once a week at least.

    Don’t buy a house that has any large pieces of wood attached to it as you will have to paint it every 5-7 years. I have a large Victorian style porch with huge decorative beams with a wooden fence running along it and it is a pain in the butt to repaint. Same with wooden shutters stay away from those too.

    Buy a house if you plan to live and work in the area for at least 10 years or more if you move around every 5 years or less for work or because you get restless home ownership is not for you. As you can see you can’t move out when you want it could take up to a year to sell a house depending on the market and where you bought it.

    Now down to the things you need to watch for before buying a house. Calculate the cost of the property taxes into the monthly payment along with the utilities and home insurance. I can’t stress enough how important this is because I have seen people only after one or two years end up selling their house because they can’t afford the property taxes alone. Get a reputable home inspector that has been in the business for a very long time to do the inspection one with 20 years or more if you can find him.

    Get a survey done on your land prior to purchase trust me on this. I have seen sellers (even banks do this) put city land into your property to inflate the price because you think you are getting everything in the survey they provide for you. When it comes time for you to get permits to build or the city wants to use the land that they own to build or do work on it you will find out that you don’t own a plot of land that you thought was yours. The city will not reimburse you for your lost land because you need to do your due diligence prior to buying the land.

    Another example that I had to deal with personally was I wanted to tear down and install a new fence on my property. Two neighbors complained that the old fence was built on their property and I couldn’t put the new fence where it was before. I had to pay $800 for a survey just so I could prove that it was my land. Only one neighbor helped with the survey cost the other told me to screw myself. Lesson learned so now learn from my mistake.

    Finally get a good lawyer and make sure he checks everything including the survey and all your hard work matches up to your records and what he has on file so the purchase can go smooth without any problems.

    Another tip decide what you want to do with your land. If you want to grow vegetables or keep chickens check the bylaws in your area and decide what size of land you need for your hobbies like repairing cars or storing vehicles or other things you may need. If you don’t want to mow large amounts of grass get smaller plot of land or invest in a riding mower or a snow blower. Either way you will have to buy other stuff you never needed before like tools and a mower as an example and it will add up as time goes on but these expenses can be managed.

    If I had to do it all over again I would learn from my mistakes and still buy a house it is worth it. If you like the city life don’t buy rural as you will not like the commute if you work in the city. I bought mine in a rural area it is cleaner air and I don’t mind the commute but everyone is different. Anyway I hope this helps if you have any other questions feel free to ask. If I remember anything else I will add it at a later time good luck with your decision brother.

    #721362

    In reply to: The One Phone Call.

    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    I’ve seen women’s true nature since before I even hit puberty. Now I’m permanently turned off. No dates, no marriage, no f~~~s given. I’ll keep my time, money and sanity. They can keep the cats!!!

    #MANOUT

    You sound like I did when I was your age.

    Sadly we did not have MGTOW around back then.

    But even in the 1980’s schools, talking to girls was actually a very unpleasant experience. They had such a high “price tag” that if they did not happen to like your advances or even a simple talk, they could cause hell for you and involve the teacher. To mess with you even more.

    Well, that happened and when they later became interested because of my thick wallet I would just remind them of the past.

    If women have no use for you, they scream “rape” and even if what happened was FAR from any sexual advance.

    I learned that lesson early.

    And the tallest, wealthiest student in the class learned to treat women as underwater riffs to steer his ship around.

    And they were so frustrated that they sent me to a school psychologist so she could “straighten me out”…

    Imagine: At 16 years of age (1983) getting shamed and pressured by your school because you don’t have a girlfriend. Yes, the c~~~s that (suddenly) wanted me (in spite of my useless hobbies) complained to the teachers…

    Unbelievable!

    Yes, but I have a spine and what happened in 1981 is not forgotten. !!! Stay away from these girls!!!… Yes I obey this order till today…

    Back then in 1981, 7th grade, simply mocking some girls did bring me a “you are the lowest scum of the earth and if you do this again… then… SPEECH in front of the class. Back then, I was shat on because I was not rich and the c~~~s had no USE FOR ME and my “weird hobbies”… (All girls in the entire class were like that)

    The damage was done: Losing my appetite for 14 year-old “fresh pussy” too. Finding out that they are just like the nasty and humorless old hags my mother has as customers.

    Well it never happened again. C~~~s are on a pedestal and they may die there.

    In 9th grade, it was so much fun waving my money and the “owners” papers for my 10000 DM stereo system around to get back at them…

    They saw how they f~~~ed up and their psycho-c~~~ did not bring me back to the youth “take-me-out-to-disco” plantation.

    Game over at age 14. Confirmed at age 16.

    “Women are dangerous”… Now, finally 15-year-olds realize that!

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

    #720832

    Anonymous

    There are layers to your question

    is your MGTOW drive based on hate/dislike for wymen, or the law/court/system?

    There is fraud: Blue pillers believe in lies
    There is damage: Divorce court punishes the man for exercising his desire for companionship and his ability to love a woman. To further the damage, she benefits financially, kids, societal comfort narratives of her being victim etc
    There is loss of potential: A man isn’t designed for nesting. The bait of early days of relationship/monogamy for men were to dismantle their natural tendency to chase women and have sex. In order to abandon such tendency for the male, he was given a wife who was supposed to be the source (and only one at that) for his sexual gratification. Now women give their sexual best to men other than the sucker husband, and bait the unsuspecting male on this premise, while completely exonerating herself from holding accountable. Cue: married women cheat. A lot.

    MGTOW is not a final answer. It is merely GPS directions for a man to escape the plantation.

    Freedom from.

    The freedom to shall come from him. Unfortunately, most men don’t have the internal drive to create something for themselves. Instead they exchange freedom for some crumbs of affection/validation.

    #719262

    In reply to: I am listening

    Astro
    Astro
    Participant

    You are correct, I should have not waited till the 30th. I dreaded the three days after Christmas and wondered if I would snuff it out at that time all year. I remember drawing up plans to put my car in neutral at Unicoi Crest and drive down Cherohala Parkway, one cannot stop from going over a 3,000ft cliff with no guard rails. No gun is needed if one wants to end the misery. Dude, I have a small arsenal in my home but did not want to be a statistic for the gun grabbers. I could have put my shotgun to my “T point” and never feel a thing. You don’t think I was serious but I know I was ready to end my misery. That is not something you should take lightly but you did. You thought I was joking but it was close to being my final joke.

    In spite of what you thought of me, it was no joke. A dachshund has been my only reason to live and in a way, Oscar still is. 2017 was a year that the best I could do was to survive. 2018 is my first year of recovery. I have seen MGTOW members recover quickly but I need time. I am 54 and spent too many years hooked on the blue pill. Half of my childhood was brought up with a feminist mother. It cost me a lifetime of stupid choices. It’s like the Matrix, there is an age where it is dangerous for one to take the red pill. It was a very bitter pill for me but I am glad I finally took it. My dad took it when he was 44 and he tried to warn me but I did not hear him. I must look to the future because my past has so many ghosts. Those ghosts showed up in 2017 and took me down two more times. Sister Christian lost her mind and is dangerous. I discovered that my Grandfather was also my Great Grandfather who raped and married his daughter and raped his grand daughters, including my mother. My own past has some good memories but for the most part, may the past burn in hell!

    IMickey503
    iMickey503
    Participant

    I have to make the video as authentic as possible.

    When the final plan goes into queue, it will be coming from east propaganda. It’s going to have to be a PsyOps tactic that will make US women at odds with other women and women groups all around the world.

    The whole idea is to encourage women to value their own asses. They do this with ANY lack of response.
    The 3 times I tried it, it was Immediately WHOA F~~~ THAT! Wait I can lose my school funding? Is there a way out of it? Strangely, they knew about pacifism. But when told that they would have to give up their rights to vote as a pacifists, it was almost an immediate reaction to say “That’s fine” Guys will always vote for women rights.

    So then men are going to be in this to save their skins as well. Even the most cucked man is going to make sure that women are not going to get hurt. They will follow the group think.

    What about lawyers? What about Judges? They are going to be rolling in the DV orders. Until that changes, they will be to busy dealing with these from women trying to use this option to say that they are hurt, mentally not capable, and prove it so in COURT with COURT DOCUMENTS. And DOCTORS LETTERS!

    The Female collective is going to be working overtime to handle all these triggered women who are doing whatever they can to keep their voting rights, and at the same time, keep the system busy. If the lawyers are making money at first they don’t care. Neither will the state.

    There will be a sudden urgency for counselors and therapy, so this will be benefiting them.

    Schools will be rushing to get women into school before a threat of lack of funding occurs.

    The schools will then have to can some of their SJW programs and gear these women and PUSH them (unsuccessfully) in stem fields)

    All those women with degrees that are worthless will be called to be officers on the front line. They will not want to do it. And see that finding a man is the option. BUT

    FEW MEN will be biting due to the laws that are in place and MGTOW content will be running trains on the Web. All new men that are subject to the draft will look for info, telling these men not to get married. And the dangers of it. Not to mention, she is going to be just sitting at home spending your money, and f~~~ing chad being the theme of many men who put these videos up.

    Women will be telling other women the horror of war and how to get out of it. They will list EVERY BAD THING and LIFETIME LONG TERM horrible things from women who have came back from war.

    Other women will be telling women to get married, but then they will have to change laws or point out c~~~s that made this problem happen to them.

    The many women’s organizations will still be telling women not to get married, and to go f~~~ abroad. They will be telling women how bad it is to deal with military men and their VIOLENT NATURE!

    TradCon men will hear this, and give women the middle finger. The LARGE MRA guys will be CHANGE THE LAWS or ELSE, YOU GO TO WAR.

    There will be so much infighting with women, Shame and social pressure to put their own asses on the line from older women, that younger women will tell them to f~~~ off.

    There will be many men that will say no, and don’t care about voting since their votes or voice mean nothing. If they do vote, its to make sure women get into the draft.

    All those disheveled men will be dancing in the streets with all this chaos, and when asked to join are simply going to tell them they can’t. DV laws.

    The DV laws will either be changed by executive order, or my a fast roll out from congress.

    States that do not follow will be ostracized, and then the young WOMEN their wanting to save their asses will be Drumming up to change these laws, and bring back Due process.

    All politicians not supporting the war effort or are feminists that only care about privilege will be ousted as so.

    Meanwhile the social shame and pressure on poor communities is going to be harder then ever as they will be one of the first groups pushed to join. Any Victim card they have will be pulled, and people all over will see it for what it is.

    Meanwhile other countries will offer asylum to these people who do not want join the war effort. They will be places that you will need a plane ticket to get back from, so entering the IS or getting passage back to your country for being a deserter is going to be hard to do. And Trump will have no problem getting this to pass.

    Meanwhile Places Like detroit are going to be seeing Crime go up. THey will have no choice but to hire more women into the police force since this will be a major issue. The Discontent will be alarming as women will file all sorts of Allegations on the police officers, and they are going to have to make changes there as well.

    Drug sales will be going up in the states, and so will criminal activity. Women will be forced to be the front line of defence here, and will either end up saying F~~~ THAT or just be caught for fraud or criminal collusion etc if they do not do their jobs.

    Women teachers will be the first ones to have to go into service, and will be pushing women to go instead of them. THese young women will be Balking and pointing out their willingness to f~~~ them over and say to HELL with Gynocentrism and Feminist dogma.

    Illegals that don’t give a f~~~ about our country, and only are in it for themselves, (Like the asshole that just tried to scope out my car, and bum a smoke from me) are going to be RUNNING back to where they came from. Free tickets even from Organizations that are sympathetic to them.

    Our border patrol is going to be at an all time HIGH alert. Men will have jobs but only if the laws change so they can do those security jobs.

    Men in jail for child support will elect to stay there, and say that they need to pay their child support, so they can’t go. So they are going to have to change the laws and hiring policies or else, they will have a shortage of legal work force.

    Women in the workplace are going to be the majority, but they will have another problem on their hands.
    All those in non essential positions are going to be drafted. We need people to perform and cheer on the war effort. Socualy Market Holistic Buls~~~ Pushers are needed. And will be pulled away from their jobs. ONLY to refuse to go. Hence, laws come out that limit their right to vote. Of course more #Metoo allegations will stop these women from going due to court dates, but that just Pushes the laws to change in mens and companies favor.

    All working women will be subject first to the draft. They will be pushed to by war bonds and spend money on women that are going to war.

    Children of these women will have to go to the fathers since they do not have any other place to go. This takes care of the child custody laws. While the father has physical custody, he will be able to use that to get 100% custody arguing that mom is a danger due to military service. Just like what they did to Terrance Popp.

    DDJ is going to start his own Law firm, and be able to fix the system from inside and out.

    Meanwhile Terrorist plots on US soil from operatives inside CONUS will be actively targeting these people in the Justice system and lawyers to make sure the comotion keeps growing. No one will be giving a s~~~ about these people, and most will leave the country.

    Meanwhile men will be infiltrating positions inside CPS and others flush out the crap, and take the jobs since they can no serve due to DV laws, so they have to take these office jobs.

    Chads and Tyrone will be Pushing out the clam chowder as fast as they can. Problem is, they are not going to be pushing out babies. They are going to be using Nox9 condoms and making sure these women get STD’s if they DO get them pregnant . FUrther eliminating them from the long term gene pool.

    Women will either have to go to Camps, or become permanent church patreons. They will be tasked with taking care of other women and men that don’t have a place to go.

    The housing market will crash, and therefore, men will be able to afford nice places to live.

    Men who do not want to go to war will be leaving the country in droves. Along with their families. This leaves a vacuum of jobs for the tradesmen to do. There will be a ton more women needing help at home with simple things . Young men will be able to get jobs at Fast Food, and other places as the 18 year old requirement to work will vanish.

    Laws due to the women getting pregnant with another mans kid are going to change (Like paternity fraud) since this will be at an all time high. Women will either have to pay it back or give up their voting rights.

    Money going to feminist organizations will be at an all time low since the idea is to help both MEN and WOMEN.

    Drug dealers will be happy with so much business that they won’t know what to do. If women want to get their drugs, they will have to f~~~ for it. This will cause some issues since their will be competition from younger and prettier women. Other women will turn those dealers in if they don’t keep giving them drugs solving this issue of the dealer / Crack whore realtionship.

    Due to the amount of corruption in the state government, and need for deskjobs for men that were hurt with the old DV laws, The Federal government is going to have a crack down with the CPS and child safety divisions. All those Men that have got f~~~ed over by the system are going to get their kids back and out of harm’s way. New judges are going to thrown in one by one with the former Cunsters and DA’s being thrown to the wolves. (again Mayhem 2.0)

    Women willing to get married are not going to be able to if any Dirt is found on them from Mayhem 2.0. They will either have to give up the lot, or face a life of ruin from everyone else.

    DEmonizing men is going to be a social crime. Any woman or man caught doing it is going to be discarded from polite society.

    Robotics and AI programs will take off since there will be a real need to fill these positions that women no longer occupy.

    China will be Japan, and all nations with ANY technical know how are going to be Pushing robotics. AI warfare will be the norm with Drones and drone warfare.

    Men who want to go into programing are going to be needed. This throws out all the diversity hires that could not do the job. New companies that are MALE DRIVEN will pop up. Companies with a female workforce are going to be at a real distavage in the war effort.

    Christians churches are going to have to rearrange themselves as being PRO men. All those that were not, are going to suffer. Many other corrupt ones are going to be disseminated. I know a few..

    Criminals looking to make a dollar are going to be looking for Bitcoin money. THis will take care of all the other issues.

    Meanwhile men are going to see that women from Asian countries use the tactics that there women are better, and will HAPPILY take these women back to the states from war torn countries. These women are not going to be able to get on the welfare system, and take their cash and prizes since he laws have changed Further putting pressure on women to “ACT” better. But no one is going to be buying. There tighter vaigina, and smaller size and better work ethic is going to decimate the Western women population for marriage and families.

    Black Men are NEVER going to have kids with Black women. But Asian women. Most of them will be able to raise good families, and in change, the poverty class of America will shift. They will move out of s~~~ HOODS, and go into nicer areas with the skills they got in the military and training benfits.

    Any Drug use will disqualify them, so they will have a good reason never to go back to their old lifestyle of hardship and suck since there is NO benfit to do so.

    Meanwhile the Shopping malls will be a place for kids again. So will outdoor activities. Men will then regain their standings in Education and Male teachers and leadership will be trained with knowledge never to let the system go back to what it was. Military Men will be ENCOURAGED to go into teaching.

    Women that want to go back to the workforce are going to say F~~~ THAT. I like being home. Since the cost of owning a home has dropped and now there is abundant supply, of apartments empty and homes up for sale from women who lost them, its going to be a buyers market. Women will desperately try to regain their jobs again, but they have already been automated in the medical industry, so no more desk jobs for them since a few men can do the job of many women and get paid more, but put out more work.

    There will be laws that will help men and women stay at home with their kids. Since women are going to be a liability, they will just automate those jobs. Men that do have kids will have plenty of time to take off when needed. But only if HE CAN and the company does not suffer.

    This will allow the training of other people into that job so that college students have a way to make money, and those that just want to go into the workforce will have take this route if its just office work.

    Women in the workplace is going to be frowned upon by other women who are married, and will FIGHT against it tooth and nail since there will be no cash and prizes for these women if they divorce due to the laws changing. Couples will prefer to just live with each other, and men will be putting their money in safe bitcoin accounts that the state can not get to. Or her. Homes will be protected and assets to the man. And this has to happen if marriage for women is going to continue.

    Men caught f~~~ing around with another mans wife (Simps, chads, Tyrone’s, drug peddlers) are going to be swiftly dealt with by the new “European pride” that comes with the rebuilding of values in the community. It is this lack and allowance of guilt that makes this possible. Do away with it, and it all goes away. Women will no longer feel that this is the right option, and social pressure to do so is going to be a lifelong poverty sentence. Not to mention always having it follow the around.

    Meanwhile the rest of the world needs to get rebuilt, and men are going to be vastly improving the roads, bringing in new tech, new idea, and new things for the upcoming kids to do. Playgrounds will be EVERYWHERE!

    Every single feminist , Man hating c~~~ is going to have come up with some new angle that is going to try to get women back. Women will VIOLENTLY oppose these women and be looked at worse than hitler (kkk in the states) and be healed accountable for all the women that died in the war.

    Children in the system that suffered will be able to tell their stories. They will be given Program that pay for their studies, and given credit for what they suffered.

    Meanwhile as the draft is always there, women will be reminded of why it happned and why it had to be done. And WOMEN will never stray to far off from allowing men to raise their family’s, or the state interfering.

    Meanwhile, the corporate world will still be a dog eat dog world, and everyone is going to be fine as long as they put some effort or try. Poor people will be happy in the church, and the disabled/Transabled as well.

    Every single thought to SJWs like Genders or Bulls~~~ is going to go away with the draft. Its not going to be forbidden, its just going to go out of style or fad.

    Facebook is going to be a Christian Whorehouse. Its going to be seen that way, and will never recover. Dating apps are going to be the Scummy craigslist Hook up sights that they should always have been.

    The racial bulls~~~ is going to be there. But it’s never going to be a SJW thing. People with merit won’t give 2 s~~~s, and will point out that they caused all this. European hate is going to be again, a DEATH WISH for these people. There will be no longer any talk or blame of Slavery holding people back.

    The Military will be the ground zero for people who want to immigrate into this country. Mexico will be the place people go who want to live the HOOD lifestyle.

    Since the welfare state is supplanted Religious people who have a stake in keeping donations and funding, they will have to show some real world results.

    Meantime, Men will be able to retire, since our money has real value again. We were able to pay off our debts, We have cheap power, and more money can be spent on leisure and doing things like Camping is going to be fun again People are going to talk to one another, and it will be like the 50’s came back.

    With the threat of war looming always, it will keep people together since everyone has their ass on the line.

    THis will continue till Female nature being pushed in the right direction starts to self sustain itself.

    Meanwhile, MGTOW men are going to enjoy the rest of their lives traveling, and enjoying life. Watching their sons and daughters inherit a world that we pushed to get started. And WE won’t have to lift a finger.

    (I will, Someone has to get their fingers dirty)

    Video of the News report will be up soon.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #718352
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    I’d not only kick out trolls I’d also put in time out those members who constantly interact with trolls in the mistaken belief they’re doing something. The recent Balaam thread would not have happened because not only would Balaam have been kicked out but the members who repeatedly responded his bait would have been given a cooling off period.

    I gave Balaam the mental sendoff or this s~~~ would have gone on all night.

    I did ignore his evil deep hitting insults and trashed his mediocre little bratty self-esteem.

    I tolerated him for too long, trying to ignore him while he beat on and insulted other members to the max. for the last days.

    He would never get me.

    It f~~~ed him up that he could not trick me into a back-and-fourth-arguing fight.

    I often had such BPD pieces of s~~~ offending me in public. I let them talk, collect their ammo and set them up for the final kill.

    In 2007, one arrogant “studied” but loser asshole needed his friends to comfort him after I said a few sentences to him in front of the crowd.

    His plan, to get me to hit his face – to collect compensation – failed. And that’s what I told him, exposing him to all others he previously provoked. And that he ruined he company himself and not because of a “bad market”…

    Mangina wrecked. A village full of idiots leave me alone.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

    #714911
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    I didn’t know it but we’re supposed to be afraid of this “All Girl Alliance” because it threatens our fragile masculinity.

    https://theestablishment.co/why-are-we-scared-of-all-women-alliances-on-reality-tv-9239e6f35e03

    As this article points out, like on Survivor Island, women only alliance management teams are necessary because existing corporate structure, where they have to interact with males, doesn’t suite their sensibilities.

    We are afraid of “all women alliances” – aka gynocentrism if you look at is straightforward and see it on a larger scale.

    The world = society = women is a large scale all women alliance and one that means “nothing good” for us men.

    When women get together and pull on one string, only evil comes out of it. Or has ANY women alliance EVER produced anything productive or positive???

    We men subconsciously are afraid of so much evil and manipulative thinking getting together and forming a conspiracy against us…

    I can go on for hours how much knee-shaking I had when evil child-care c~~~s got together to discuss and decide how to punish the disobedient boy “the most effective”…

    My fear became so bad that I hid my fear, went forward and spat out:

    “If you cross the line now, my parents will sue you for child abuse 2 years from now…” (As we were house owners, they took it seriously and expected a backlash)

    And their plans were dropped. The 11 year-old won against 4 evil c~~~s.

    But I’ll never forget the chatter of 4 c~~~s behind the door, all discussing and debating how to beat the s~~~ out of me and to humiliate me into submission… (My ears were always better than any one expected) (For no real reason as I never did anything that could have gone on file, they just hated me for wanting a smart and just treatment)

    Unjust child abuse, violations of human dignity and crimes against humanity are now well documented worldwide and we are finally being believed…

    Nothing good comes out of c~~~s.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)

    PistolPete
    PistolPete
    Participant

    The other night I was on zoom and made a suggestion about how to deal with the potential extinction of Polar Bears–i.e. just move them to Antarctica, then they have a whole continent all to themselves—except for their food supply–penguins. Now brother Oldschool thought this idea was sheer genius. Such high praise would have turned the head of a lessor man—and being a lessor man it turned mine too, and swelled it with unrestrained egoism.

    In that spirit I turn my massive intellect to the problem of muslims and their penchant for murdering/raping/torturing etc etc. innocent victims. The answer brothers is very simple. NO its not blowing up Mecca with nukes—yes I know a great idea and very entertaining but we’re adults here so lets agree that its a little impractical.

    Instead I suggest the imposition of a Peace Bond. And this is how it works. Most if not all Mosques springing up like weeds in the west/Europe are financed by countries in the middle east, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar et al. Before any country allows them to purchase land, buildings in which to build their Mosque these countries must pony up and additional sum as a surety against the behavior of their clerics and parishioners. Say a million dollars or so. This money is placed in a fund. And whenever one of the members of the religion of peace loses their s~~~ and goes on a killing spree/bombing spree whatever damages are awarded to the injured OUT of this fund. This plan has a number of happy consequences:

    First, the countries that spawned the terror pay the costs.
    Second, since these guys love money they have a monetary incentive to be self policing of their own folks; we won’t have to do it—they will to avoid paying out damages.

    I know what your thinking…can this work…yes indeed and it has worked in the past. Many years ago I belonged to a certain group that caused a lot of irritation to the folks running Chicago. When they finally had enough of us the city imposed a 100K peace bond. We were not able to march/rally anything without posting that money. Of course we didn’t have that kind of money and the organization withered on the vine and was never heard from after about 1981. So yes this works.

    Arguments to the contrary please?


    Anonymous

    That speaks for itself.

    Also speaks for itself.

    Yep, looking for sugar daddies.

    Finally, one for Gargamel:

    Gentlemen. I don’t get out much due to a variety of reasons. I thought that my life was a bit boring and that perhaps was a negative. Now, oh boy, I realize that my life is actually great. Why? I’m not involved with anything linked above. Nor am I interested!

    #712315
    Ancientwisdom
    Ancientwisdom
    Participant

    Women canmot be red pilled because they know exactly what the gynocentric society/plantation/matrix is all about, they do their collective hive best to keep men in the damn dark.

    No women is red pilled. They are the ones that subsist off the gynocentric society.

    My thoughts exactly.

    “Taking the proverbial red pill” for men, is an awakening. Women were never unaware of their behavior, because they are, and always were, the one’s manipulating the truth via deception to fit their own individual agenda.

    This is why the “red pill” doesn’t apply to women.

    It’s like stating a puppet master finally became aware that he was pulling the strings on an unknowing subject.

    Resident cynic.

    #712035
    Moose
    Moose
    Participant

    ……that’s Seaside Hts isn’t it?

    I have family near Rutherford and I spent some summers in New Jersey.

    The East Coast is a lot of fun. From time to time, I must go to the ocean and play in the water.

    When I was in California, I stayed near Huntington Beach.

    …..Filing court certifications with my complaints just to have a judge basically tell me to pound sand, and sticking through this garbage for ten years until I finally couldn’t take it anymore…ran out of gas……..

    It is good that you are able to write about what happened to you while you were on the Plantation and also write about your life as a free men.

    Here is a link to the story of Thomas Ball who you may relate to:

    /forums/topic/thomas-ball-died-for-your-sins-too/

    Manipulated Man –

    I will check out Thomas Ball’s story momentarily…just wanted to respond real quick first. I have a heart for the coast as well! We have common ground in NJ and CA. I liked Huntington Beach…Orange County has a lot to offer. In CA, I lived in Marina which was on the Monterey Peninsula. But I frequently took “the one” (hwy 1) in either direction. I hung out at every hotspot I could catch between LA and San Francisco. Slo Town, Pismo, Santa Barbara, Big Sur, Yankee Point, Pebble Beach, Pacific Grove just to name a few. But my utopias were Santa Cruz and Capitola. When I first got out there, though, I lived in Salinas…ah, I can still hear the gunshots and sirens.

    #712017

    ……that’s Seaside Hts isn’t it?

    I have family near Rutherford and I spent some summers in New Jersey.

    The East Coast is a lot of fun. From time to time, I must go to the ocean and play in the water.

    When I was in California, I stayed near Huntington Beach.

    …..Filing court certifications with my complaints just to have a judge basically tell me to pound sand, and sticking through this garbage for ten years until I finally couldn’t take it anymore…ran out of gas……..

    It is good that you are able to write about what happened to you while you were on the Plantation and also write about your life as a free men.

    Here is a link to the story of Thomas Ball who you may relate to:

    /forums/topic/thomas-ball-died-for-your-sins-too/

    What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

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