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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Men Going Their Own way seems to be growing quickly and spreading to other countries (Germany being the most recent).

I also did observe this. I like doing this, lurking and looking at Trends. I found a lot of german Blogs and Websites. They guys there do not use the MGTOW word so often but they discuss about it. One thing is sure, they all took the red pill. A lot of men in Germany and Europe have contact with People in the States, Canada, Australia etc. A lot of guys there have roots in Europe.
When I talk to men here in Germany I always hear a lot of displeasure about the privileges for women. They do not say it loud but it is there, it is present. I also did sharpen my senses and observing what is going on. There are a lot of men who refuse supporting woman, no protection, no supporting and chivalry has gone, and it is not an antisocial behavioural, it is really a matter of choice. Anyway MGTOW it is there, it is present.

[GunslingerParticipant]

Went home last night and didn’t make note of the website address in my phone, I was so p~~~ed. @crazykanuc thankfully she makes more money than me, but thankfully we don’t have enough assets to really even need to go to court. The only thing I could see us needing to figure out is who gets the car. But basically I’m taking it if I’m moving to another state. I’m being pretty cool about everything, and that’s what has drove her crazy at times. I’ve not blown up really at all, and one night she was like I just don’t get how  you can always be so calm about all of this.

@wolf Yea I have been trying the no contact, it works sometimes, but honestly it’s been so hard to do that. Living together in a small one bedroom makes it difficult. It’s funny you bring up her faking bi-polar because the thought has crossed my mind a few times. What stops someone from faking that just to scare someone else off. I have faked an anxiety attack before just to get out of hanging with some of her stupid friends back in the day. What’s to stop her from doing this just to run me off, she’s explained how her dad was to me, and at times she says things that basically just mirrored what he told her Mom back in the day. He basically left them because he was “Just not that into you anymore”  and the “you keep me from having a real life” same s~~~ she has told me recently. Hell I know we have been attached at the hip since we left KY 3 years ago, but doesn’t mean we have to stay that away. She acts as if I get p~~~ed cause she hangs with people up here, I’m glad she has friends, but in her mind it’s a different story.

@franky Yea I remember late last year she had gotten onto me for playing video games, in my defense the master chief collection just came out, no way I wasn’t beating those over again. She had never complained before and I told her straight up “this is who I am, I love video games and you f~~~ing knew this for many years, why are you approaching me like this now” So she fussed for a little bit longer. The other night she asks me why I’m not playing as much as I used too, until Arkham Knight of course, and that I need to play video games more since it’s what I love. One of those times I got the stink of that bi-polar she probably has.

@Progenitor I have honestly thought about that, I truly have, and if my buddy gets to go to his new job sooner, I’ll be gone before she get’s back. I already know what her answer will be, so why not peace out and never hear that answer. If I had a guaranteed place up here I would. And I’ll be looking for one while she’s gone, even if it’s temporary to hold me over until I move to AL.

So funny story from yesterday. She had this older man (40-45) stop her twice, once last week and then yesterday and gave her flowers. I flipped the first time and she says “oh I told him I’m married, he’ll stop.” So I didn’t say anything besides what he looked like and drove. Well when it happened yesterday, I f~~~ing flipped. I saw his truck while I was walking my dogs and went over to him and had a little talk. ” I was like do you think it’s f~~~ing right to give another man’s wife flowers?” He says “man I’m sorry, I want do it again” I thought he was going to cry, so I told him if it does it’ll be his last” I wanted to bust his face in but I had two dogs with me and couldn’t just drop their leash. Well I didn’t get one f~~~ing thank you, what I got was a f~~~ing ear full of why she can take care of herself…lol. I f~~~ing went off, I was like your feminist bulls~~~ isn’t going to work on me! I know she can take care of herself, but at the same time, creeps don’t just stop. I wasn’t expecting her to get down on her knees and start sucking or anything but s~~~ give me some damn loving for taking up for you…oh wait feminism has ruined any chivalry that any guys have left. They think it’s another way to keep them oppressed. I was like, well I shouldn’t have said anything and maybe you’ll be in his trunk and that’d solve all of my problems…she didn’t like that much.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Women are strong and independent. They need a man like a fish needs ….. yada yada yada.

There’s your equality right there …. right in your face ladies.

The kid will do life for stopping a beating rape because he’s male.

Get used to this ladies. You killed and buried chivalry ….. now f~~~ off and stop whining.

[UnbelievableyetnotParticipant]

It seems many gays need to get over the fact that they are gay and stop shoving it down our throats.

If gays are taking over, can you name me one gay main character in a mainstream movie?

The only problematic label with your sister is that of feminist as she is inevitably acting against mens rights interests by simply buying into Patriarchy theory. My sisters now a feminist too (doesn’t call herself one as she openly wants chivalry and men to be protectors as well as wanting all the benefits of feminist “equality”) and I just cut off contact.

[Zuberi TauParticipant]

I’m glad I heard that story because drives home my point when I say chivalry is dead.

 

[Anonymous]

Wolf Wrote:

This reminds me of a chick I met online a few weeks back. We started chatting, and I was just asking typical questions in order to get to know her. I didn’t throw myself at her. I actually challenged her on some of her answers. Her response: you’re not showing a lot of interest in me, which makes me feel uncomfortable – goodbye.

I have found the same thing, women want a man to fall over themselves trying to get to her. They don’t understand anything else. Even in situations where they should be charming/trying to keep the men’s interest they don’t because they don’t know how to anymore. Dating sites are a good example of this, so many younger woman want men who are Feminists and Left Wingers, Vegetarians etc. Men tend not to be those types of things. They see engagement in discussion as aggressive and confronting all because you disagree with them, then they play the defenseless woman card and do what your woman did.

I agree. I was raised to view women as equals. Yet, as an adult in the dating world, I quickly learned that I’m still expected to put pussy on a pedestal. It made no sense from what I learned as a child. Then I learned about affirmative action, which royally p~~~ed me off. Then my eyes were opened to how society views men and, from that point forward, I gave feminism no creedence.

I relate. If anything from a young age I was this New Age Sensitive Guy that was in vogue a couple of decades ago. I saw women as equals and yet at the same time I became confused when I found women who still wanted and expected me to pay for dinners and dates, most women will even go so far as to disappear around bill time, I find that quite insulting. What happened to equality? Exactly.

IMO, yes. This is why you see women state in online profiles “is chivalry dead?” and “where have all the good men gone”. The several decades of feminism has impacted my childhood socialization to view women as equals. Therefore, there is no chivalry, and there is no “good men” to put them on a pedestal. It’s not being vindictive on my part; rather, I genuinely view them as equals.

Exactly. I would like to ask if being a lady is dead, where have all the good women gone? Why is it so ok for women to say these things and be so demanding yet a man cannot expect anything in return. For a long time I was sick of the double standard and now I don’t want to even play anymore.

[WolfParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I have been around younger women, they are for the most part charmless, asides from their looks they have little to offer and expect the world. Even their sex is so easy to attain it is in effect worthless in terms of making me feel special in any real way. They are so used to men just throwing themselves at them that they have lost what I can only assume was once referred to as “The Feminine Mystique”.

This reminds me of a chick I met online a few weeks back. We started chatting, and I was just asking typical questions in order to get to know her. I didn’t throw myself at her. I actually challenged her on some of her answers. Her response: you’re not showing a lot of interest in me, which makes me feel uncomfortable – goodbye.

Anonymous wrote:

So this leads me to this discussion. Feminism has killed women’s “natural” power. Many men no longer see women as creatures to help or support, sex is no longer something a man has to get married to gain access to, in fact if a man wants sex he can get it quite easily and for the price of a couple of drinks at the local bar or just walk into a brothel or strip joint and have a sexual encounter of some kind. If he is smart and realizes all he actually needs and wants is an orgasm he will look at free porn online.

Couple that with men being treated poorly, being degraded, vilified in our society and you get what we have right here MGTOW. Japanese Herbivore men are an extreme case of that, men who don’t even want sexual or romantic relations with women and just see them as platonic “friends”. I would speculate that their testosterone levels are also quite  low perhaps due to emasculation that was so subtle they didn’t even notice it happening. This correlate with studies I have read about testosterone levels dropping around the world and fertility and sperm levels with it.

I agree. I was raised to view women as equals. Yet, as an adult in the dating world, I quickly learned that I’m still expected to put pussy on a pedestal. It made no sense from what I learned as a child. Then I learned about affirmative action, which royally p~~~ed me off. Then my eyes were opened to how society views men and, from that point forward, I gave feminism no creedence.

Anonymous wrote:

So my question to you all is has Feminism actually devalued women and taken away their natural power?

IMO, yes. This is why you see women state in online profiles “is chivalry dead?” and “where have all the good men gone”. The several decades of feminism has impacted my childhood socialization to view women as equals. Therefore, there is no chivalry, and there is no “good men” to put them on a pedestal. It’s not being vindictive on my part; rather, I genuinely view them as equals.

[sidecarParticipant]

Durden wrote:

But she will automatically blame it on me because I do not conform to her beliefs.

It’s simpler than that. She blames it on men because they are not conforming to her DESIRES.

It’s never about what she believes, assuming she believes anything, but rather all about her wants. Her “beliefs” will always change according to her wants. The very same woman will believe in “equality” when it gets her equal pay for less work and “chivalry” when it gets her free meals.

[WolfParticipant]

Qcummer wrote:

It was a good system back in the day.

Careful…some would say this to advocate a return to traditionalism. For me, traditionalism is nothing more than deference to females. This is why many modern women today still consider themselves to be traditionalists in relationships. They still want chivalry, they want to be wooed and treated like a princess, their happiness comes first, etc.

[Anonymous]

The Society with the strongest male culture will prevail.

I read that a few years back on another forum and it has stuck with me since. The West has been in decline ever since Feminism and the Cultural revolutions of the 60’s. Our traditions, values, religious beliefs, pride have all been dismantled and we are left with a complete divided unworkable mess.

The nations that are strong and progressing are China, India, Russia even to an extent, these nations are all proud and do what works best for them, no cry baby there, there, female crap, just straight ahead doggedness, and that is how you progress, by doing not by talking everything to death and certainly not by embracing ideas that are destructive to your own kind.

Feminists embrace and support something like Islam which hates women, no chivalry at all there, in fact the only culture that has a chivalry  code is White European.

And as the OP states women can’t get along with each other and as more men turn their backs on the whole mess you will see things turn in our favour again. But it won’t be easy.

 

 

 

 

[SnakeSpectator]

Chivalry had its place. Life was hard centuries ago. Women died giving birth. Most children didn’t even live to be six. This is no longer the case. Modern medicine allows women to more easily give birth, and allows children to have a greater chance to live to adulthood. Old traditions die hard. It is as you say: with the way the system works today a woman should be on her knees. There is too much to risk and too little to gain for the man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If you want a serious answer, women need to submit to men.

@phoenix, that’s been tried before, it’s called patriarchy, now we have MGTOW, it’s the best deal around, a win win win situation! It shows the mastery of man when given the worst situation. Feminism is here to stay, so is MGTOW, the only difference is feminism had a 50+ year head start over MGTOW. These new perverted laws of social dynamics have brought about a MGTOW explosion!

Many MGTOW (like my self) sprouted organically, independent of established MGTOW logic, and formed the same logic independently, yet identical in every aspect. Women have collectively (with the hive, the church, with every aspect of their feminist paradigm) destroyed any chance of reconciliation with MGTOW converts. Feminism has set the West a blaze! It’s long past time for men to run to safety, it’s time to run for your life! We only live once, why ruin it with the bondage and suffering that accompanies female whining whimpering and complaining, only to extract whatever they can from you in the end…….

A true hard core MGTOW knows and understands the definition of a burnt bridge. Feminism has burned all bridges to a cinder! let the causeway remain, we are each unto our own island, we still make bridges, we just don’t make bridges for women anymore, they can swim or drown for all I care.

Thanks feminism, thanks to you I learned how to live and let die, and to dismantle all personal chivalry. Feminism is alive and well! Unicorns are dead and buried.

MGTOW walk among the living dead of feminism, while we invariably suffocate feminism by stirring the ashes of this scorched and incinerated society…

[MgtowWaveParticipant]

http://gynocentrism.com/2013/10/23/the-allure-of-chivalry/

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[ValleyFever101Participant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

This is an example where you will see tradcons get all over MGTOW for going their own way. They make all sorts of arguments why it is wrong, to keep others trapped in the system

 

I’m new to this forum and wasn’t really aware of the acronym “MGTOW” until a few months ago.  However, I have to admit that a good deal of it chimed with me.  I don’t see what’s so wrong about it though.  If men choose to opt out, why should anyone else complain about it?  As far as I can tell, there’s nothing illegal about it, it doesn’t violate anyone’s rights, and nobody is hurt by it.

I don’t feel that I owe anything to society.  I’ve been an honest, law-abiding, taxpaying citizen all my life, so there’s nothing I need to apologize for.  I’ve worked for every penny I have, and I’ve not taken a single dime in welfare or charity.  That’s how I can live with myself and go to sleep with a clear conscience every night.  Whatever else anyone might say or think of me is totally meaningless.  I don’t really care, as long as my principles and sense of honor remain intact.  That, to me, is more important than money or companionship, since those are temporary things which can be gained or lost or regained.

They say that “chivalry is dead,” but that’s only because they view the concept from a one-sided point of view.  Chivalry also means having a moral code and a set of principles that many people don’t seem willing to accept.

[Beware the LamiaeSpectator]

Interesting take Bazarov. I made some comments about the Oberman too once on Stardusks channel. No one replied or cared. I fear too that any measuring up to the Overman will lead to comments of racism even though we know better.

I dont think anyone replied or cared because most of them have no idea what we’re talking about. They dont know what the Ubermensch was, most have never read any Nietzsche.

I can’t say Im too optimistic for MGTOW really catching on for enough men to actually make a social impact. This is due of course to the nebulous definitions that are placed behind it. There’s plenty of information and merit behind the grievances. There’s plenty of real misandry and ill will towards men in the legal system but what “Going Your Own Way” actually entails is anyone’s guess. Since “going your OWN way” prevents a proper standard of behavior, pretty much everybody who grants validity to misandry is trying to call themselves mgtow. I’m ambivalent to this clusterf~~~. I see the benefit of making men aware, however, you can get 60 million men to claim mgtow and it really wont change a damn thing because every last one of them is still screwing around with women if the opportunity arises to trade chivalry for access to pussy. They perpetuate the memes that have dug men into this hole we’re in.

Maybe it’s already a given that MGTOW really means Celibacy among other default positions like atheism. I don’t think it’s too much to ask for MGTOW content producers to expand “not signing a marriage contract” to “not engaging in any sexual activity with women.” Men knew 20 years ago how dangerous signing a marriage contract is and the rate has declined, however, misandry remains, the laws remains, nothing has changed. To create positive change for men we have to identify what women really want and cut it off. The last power they haven’t robbed from us is sex, which they are still robbing us of because men give it away for free–but its within our power to cut that off. To me, mgtow doesn’t mean anything if it doesn’t mean ceasing relations with women. Its a low bar, come on! You can go any way you want after you swallow that one red pill. Red pill knowledge is nothing when you’re still sponsoring the c~~~ carousel. And to be fair, what part of Going Your Own Way means continuing to beg for pussy. Make no mistake, that’s exactly what it is in any form. “No strings attached sex” is about as legit as a NAWALT. MGTOW men are still just as delusional as typical mangina men who will do anything for some poon. There simply is no truth in, “Im a mgtow but if a woman will let me have some ass and doesn’t expect anything in return then…” Its a delusional justification based in denial. Women are using men and men allow it.

There are many so called MGTOW who say they’re going their own way but still hit the poon tang. My question is how are they different from any other man? They watered down Men Going Their Own Way to suit their biological impulses. They are the true hypocrites of MGTOW and we allow this because we wont drop the hammer and define MGTOW with a low bar which is “MGTOW dont f~~~ women, period.” Women still own the male mind when you’re still mentally preoccupied with getting your dick wet. Its needs to stop because its both counterproductive and dangerous for the individual and for men as a whole. 

I think it’s comical how the media explains away the declining birthrate since 2007 as the economy being poor. And they attest that when the economy truly rebounds, we’ll see more marriage and a rising birth rate in America. What a bunch of idiots who miss the fact that 30 year olds in mass are unemployed and living on handouts from family–women and men. Nowadays, women’s biological clock is hitting the wall at the same time they plan to start a family. 10 years from now, 40 year old women will finally be in the situation to start a family but oops, your uterus is dried up and your kid has DOWNS.

The ignorance displayed towards our biology as dictated by millions of years of mammalian evolution is astounding. And the obvious effort to spread androgyny and erase masculinity; even punish it, are perverted and immoral. All the arrows point to feminism as the most destructive force the planet has seen since religion. Make no mistake, feminism is the cause for divorce, declining birth rate, epidemics of homosexuality, single moms and male suicide and so much more.

Many accuse MGTOW of being extreme. I’m here to tell you it’s not extreme enough by a long shot!

The only way to stop it is to cut women off entirely. They’ve abandoned their role and duty to this species. They’ve used men’s biology against men. They live off the fat of the land while men die in the trenches. Its not enough for MGTOW to simply be “not signing a marriage contract,” we need to flat-out disassociate ourselves with women; no sex, no favors, no physical contact! These are end games. They are playing a game against nature, trying to change 2 million years of hominid instinct, they are going to fail miserably because they’re perverting the glue that holds this world together, MEN.

 

 

[BDParticipant]

Manners and chivalry, not gender politics, should dictate who picks up the bill, particularly since, I’d venture, most first dates these days would still be at a man’s invitation.

Then there’s the fact that many women would have already outlaid the equivalent of a lobster and champagne meal on her pre-date prep: new frock, shoes, manicure, pedicure, wax, blow-dry … this stuff doesn’t grow on trees, fellas.

Lol, forget it. I’ll just get a hooker, watch some free porn, or read articles like this that turn me off of sex.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[BDParticipant]

Cap285 wrote:

Hello. My money is my own and you will get none of it. Not for some time at least as trust and respect have to be earned. I have a kid and you will never be more important than her. Not. Ever. I prefer petite, women who aren’t land whales with at least shoulder length hair, and so if you’re amazon like tall, have a short ditzy-bob haircut or can’t control your eating, you need not apply. My exercise and hockey league take up much of my time but I’ll squeeze you in if I can. They also take up money…and that’s not going to stop even if we dated on a regular basis. You need to have job. You’re all equal now. If you’re not liar and are truly interested in real companionship, why does what I do for living or where I live matter? Pick equality or chivalry, you can’t have both. At our age, let’s face it, marriage is out of the question as most of us have been dragged through the divorce ringer. Why is just having a long term relationship a problem? Marriage is bulls~~~. Disagree? Probably means you’d like the law involved to get your hands on my cash. Move on.

Wow Cap, you are awesome, salute!  Everyone on this thread is awesome,

I almost lost my dinner looking at those profiles but the comments after more than made up for it, this is the best thread ever!

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[Cap285Participant]

Behold: Marriage in a nutshell.

If that had been her and the guy didn’t pick up her bag, she’d be bitching about chivalry or hamstering about something. And all that will go out the window when she decides to cheat and blows some guy in the very vehicle they’re sitting. She will. That’s classic projection.

F~~~ing hypocritical, double standard having c~~~s.

Fuck this planet.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

AFT wrote:

Well I can’t speak for the rest of the guys, but if they didn’t have that golden Vag between their legs I’d be throwing rocks at them. But the fact remains that they do, and for that minuscule amount of use I put up with an ENTIRE GYNOCRACY set up to DESTROY MANHOOD, I’d say I’m a goddamn saint.

Well it’s widely known – and we didn’t say it first – “if women didn’t have a vagina there would be a bounty on them”. But that’s not a hatred of women, that’s just a f~~~ing fact. That’s why they throw the first punch in a dispute, that’s why they behave the way they do, and why they are so f~~~ing arrogant all the time. But that’s just the way they are. The moon also has no atmosphere. When you observe that, it doesn’t mean you “hate the moon”. It’s not “moonsogyny”. Its the way it is.

The point is , you DONT throw rocks. Just like I have explained in GREAT lengths that I don’t key their cars, don’t throw a fist, don’t knock the frappucino out of their hands, set their cats on fire or any of that s~~~. If anything, I will kill a woman with kindness.

Recently – on a random Sunday sunny afternoon – some women will a clipboard said:
“HELP STOP VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN????”

ME: “SURE SWEETIE!!! I help stop violence against women every time I DON’T beat a woman. You’re welcome.”.

She was SO f~~~ing mad in her eyes. But why?? I actively stop violence against women!!
Proof “hate” was in HER heart… not in mine.

Thats’ the reality here. THEY are the hateful ones. I will not be projected upon by them.

FACT: 9 out of 10 men will NOT hit a woman back – even when she is throwing punches:
There is WAY too much chivalry in the world.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Mango IngawayParticipant]

ILiveAgain wrote:

“Chivalry is dead and women killed it”

There are still plenty of white knights,even nowadays. Hopefully, one day, a woman will use them so bad they’ll grow a brain and go mgtow.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.