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  • #68395
    Lord Vats
    Lord Vats
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    Many guys get accused of rape, but there are many more that do not. I think I was wondering whether those guys take any precautions, or  maybe women target some particular type of guy to accuse. Just some food for thought.
    But Yup! Lesson learned. In the long run, prostitutes will be the better choice, both in terms of time and money.

     

    I used to spend 700 dollars a month taking women out to dinner and never got laid.

    You must have went to a somewhat conservative college where it is expected that you’ll wine and dine the girl before you f~~~ her. Dating is non-existent at colleges that are known for their hook up culture, no one goes on dates, they go to parties and just f~~~.

     

    But you as a young man in college are what will make this world survive. Broads can do all their liberal arts s~~~, get their degrees in useless s~~~ with no value, but it is the guys who will be the innovators and risk takers. If society has any chance, it is because of a man fulfilling his innate tendencies, not some bitch who got a job from some affirmative action quota. As Barbarossa says, you are the prize.

    Ha ha cheers to that! The first thing I’m gonna do in college is to find out whether I have a penchant for research. If yes, then I’m applying for a job at NASA. If not, then well, Banking is a tried and tested career.

    #68302
    Jack reacher
    jack reacher
    Participant

    Lordvats,

    I can sympathize with your situation, but I think you answered your own question. I agree with ILiveAgain. there is no way to prevent a false rape allegation from some c~~~. absolutely no way, particularly some c~~~ indoctrinated in the college environment. Yes, she may seem willing and it may appear consenting, but all it takes is some women’s studies s~~~ to pollute her malleable brain and you are f~~~ed. Literally, you are the guy in jail getting f~~~ed.

    First, as a young man, distinguish your sexual need from pussy from the overvalued commodity it is in our gynocentric culture. Do not desire it because it is has been placed on the figurative top shelf. In other words because access is limited. It is just pussy, some good, most not good. But you as a young man in college are what will make this world survive. Broads can do all their liberal arts s~~~, get their degrees in useless s~~~ with no value, but it is the guys who will be the innovators and risk takers. If society has any chance, it is because of a man fulfilling his innate tendencies, not some bitch who got a job from some affirmative action quota. As Barbarossa says, you are the prize.

    So if you are beyond the overvaluing of pussy, you are going to have to jack off for a while or scrounge up some money for a pro, with a contractual recognition of the act of sex. More expensive in the short term, but think of what a false rape allegation could do to your life.

    #67512

    I just emailed to the useless c~~~.

     

    If you are going to write about MGTOW at least get your facts straight.  Sandman is not the founder of MGTOW.  MGTOW.com is independent.  In fact all MGTOW are independent, there is no so called leader.

    Solaris and Ragnar is the founder of MGTOW at least the name. Around 2002-2003 MGTOW was created however it was not what it is today.  Today’s MGTOW is considered MGTOW 2.0 because the orginal MGTOW idea was to promote marriage whereas current MGTOW does not..  Barbarossaaaa and Paul Elam promoted MGTOW.  Barbarossaaaa was the one who really changed the MGTOW concept.

    You seem to be totally clueless about men because if you really know anything about men you won’t write the trash you did.  You forget the bat s~~~ crazy feminists in Toronto.  Are you living under a rock?  Did you not see the hashtag #killallmen.

    Girlwriteswhat truly cares and knows about men.  She doesn’t fake it like you do.  It’s funny how you don’t even know women are trying to get men interested in marriage.  Women against feminism cropped up around 2013- 2014.  Do you realize many women have actually joined MGTOW forums and got banned?  Gee I wonder why.  Women have become so desperate because MGTOW don’t take women seriously.  It’s clueless women like you give all women a bad name.

    On men, women and r/TheRedPill

    Dialogue with MGTOW Founders
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUUT2TCxU-o

    "If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

    #65087

    Barbarossa is a pussy beggar……right? Just saying, last time I checked, the guy was still admitting that he gets ass, there is no such thing as “no strings attached sex” or “not becoming emotional involved.” I’m just saying, I like BarBar and the stuff I’ve listened to is the bomb but the guy is a lot of loud talking and no walk. A lot of fast talking and good essays but he is at best on the fence between going your own way and MRA. Don’t get me wrong, I love the guy but he is about as nurturing to MGTOW as Sandman. STARDUSK is the only one worth listening to besides Spetsnaz. Theres an important string of people behind those like Messenger Rising, Turd Flinging Monkey, Mayor of MGTOWN. 

    I saw someone call it the age of mis-information the other day….sounds about right. But to hear Chomsky’s name in a way that isn’t derogatory takes the cake. I guess it was to be expected, bad ideas are like mud getting carried in on dirty shoes. Political nutters, Religious nutters, and all their neurotic moderate’s. A melting pot of s~~~ perpetuated by men desperately wanting to stand behind something but not knowing what it should be, frog hopping from one s~~~ pile to the the next. Wanna-be 21st century philosophers who think they’re well-read. Pseudo quantum theist hacks and lesbian ‘coexister’ leftists, what a retarded species. “Where do I get my philosophy?” The question should be, where don’t I get my philosophy. How best to severe meme leeches.

    #64890
    Flightspace
    flightspace
    Spectator

    The only MGTOW channel i’m subscribed to is Barbarossa. I also love listening to Erin Pizzey talk because she’s one of the real OGs in fighting for mens rights and she almost died for it. But i think its not enough to sustain you to only ever listen to one voice from one political movement. Philosophically, i take to Plato, Kant, Chomsky, Lao Tzu, Thomas Mathiesen… (learn about the synopticon and you will be glad you did, he’s the most relevant philosopher still alive today)

    I also like looking at a bit of pre-socratic philosophy, its pretty crazy how close Parmenides came to describing string theory, and the atomists correctly predicted the existence of atoms thousands of years in advance, though, not quite correctly how they work. Another great thinker to look into whos not quite a philosopher is Daniel Khaneman. His book “thinking fast and slow” will change your life. You will be surprised just how many popular ideas from modern psychology are based on misnomers from idiots who haven’t actually read his book, but have listened poorly to people who actually have and inserted their own assumptions. the whole, “rational / irrational” brain misnomer, for instance. And in fact, ironically, much of the book is basically about those kind of assumptions.

    #64607

    No problem man. Thanks for your input though I disagree a bit. I haven’t gotten knee deep in Barbarossa content on youtube for one reason or another but I have become exceedingly familiar with Stardusk and others, listening to all of their videos, sometimes twice. Not to kiss up to him, but if there is one man with his head on straight, its Stardusk; who I tend to agree with (or rather he reinforces and puts into words what I came to understand as a man already).

    When you decide that you want to know what he knows then you need to listen to the Stardusk compilation in depth and then dozens more of his other talks. (Thinking Ape TV Youtube or just type into Youtube Stardusk Compilation and listen for 8 hours–I’ve done it twice). MGTOW may have numerous new, casual or misinformed members who still engage in sexual activity with women but this is nothing more than men standing on the front steps of the MGTOW house and never entering. They are fence-sitters or still growing. Their stance is not to be mistaken with Going Your Own Way. And ultimately they are no different than normal men who are weary of marriage or happen to know some red-pill knowledge. Most of them are Tradcons or PUA sex addicts but just don’t know it.

    When truly going your own way, ceasing emotional or sexual interaction with women is just the beginning! We’re talking about becoming the men we are inside; developed and accomplished–becoming Male Human Beings instead of blue-pill human doings. We’ve re-purposed our lives and are truly liberated and active in pursuing our interests with a free mind. There’s no room for pussy begging. No man is going to stand here and tell me that his continued sexual interaction with women isn’t significantly hindering his progress in life or the serenity of his mind. From the start of the day to lights out, he is preoccupied with sex; secretly anxious to possibly get laid. This is the guy who deceives himself most and is the perfect prospect for women to manipulate. He is steered by his biological urges instead of conquering them and he is literally one smile from a woman away from becoming the biggest Sir Lancelot ever!

    As far as, why do I think sex is out of the question, I ask you, why do you think we’re going our own way? If sex was still on the table, why are we here? Why is there something called MGTOW anyway? I want to give you two groups of reasons why sex is out. One group of reasons is strictly for a singular male. The other group of reasons is for men at large.

    Why one man is celibate:

    STD’s—-Investigate the numbers at the CDC website for yourself. Women have no qualms with lying to you. We know this because they have no honor. If you think they do have honor, you haven’t listened to enough MGTOW content yet. You will be getting an STD soon if you are sexually active, I promise.

    Female Manipulation. To women, sex and their vagina is a sexual market place product to be traded for goods and services. There is no arguing this. We see it in our primate cousins too, apes trading sex for goods. Essentially, all women are prostitutes, this is just nature. They WILL manipulate your instinctual need to f~~~ as a means to an end whether it be emotional comfort, groceries, payment of parking ticket, bar room tab, attention, status symbol, to get at another man, to make other women or men jealous, to get revenge, to gain confidential knowledge of you or your home, to be secure in any form, to have a place to live, to get favors done like moving furniture, to try and get you to date their friend, to gain professional advancement……..the list is endless. Their vagina is their currency and they NEVER have sex just to have sex, you are being bought! In the rare case, she does just want to jump your bones because she needs a lay, don’t do it because she’s a nympho slut who definitely does have a disease. Even if she isn’t a whore or doesn’t have an STD, why would you give it to her? What is she going to do for you? Men don’t need anything from women, this is nature so whatever she intends to trade for your sex is valueless.

    Women are sub-consciously, or in some cases, consciously and deliberately trying to get pregnant. They buy pets and overly coddle other peoples children. They instinctively want to get knocked-up (even if they say they don’t want to.) Its a lie and I’ve experienced it firsthand. They WILL lie about not taking their birth control pill. They will poke holes in a condom. They will dump a freshly disposed condom into their vag. They will get prego by another man and trick you into a plethora of commitment during pregnancy or even after on the premise that you think its yours. They WILL lie to you about needing money for an abortion so to get a few hundred bucks out of you. Women don’t know WTF they want and are hysterical ALL the time, not just 3 days a month. They will swear up and down they have their mind made up and then do the exact opposite of what they said…like saying they’re on birth control and purposely not taking it. CHILD SUPPORT LAWS, men have NO reproductive rights! Why take that risk?

    Women are a 24/7 mind f~~~ that WILL cost you energy, mindspace, serenity, cash, liberty, time, happiness and health! Essentially you put ALL that at risk for access to a pussy and 10 seconds of ejaculation? It’s the equivalent of being a drug addict and trading limbs or your paycheck for a ‘high.’ Even if its a woman who only calls every few weeks and wants to go out. We’re talking serious effort and engagement to even get some simple pussy action and she is always selling it and you may never get it. The whole enterprise is empty, full of tremendous risk and severely overrated! A man Going His Own Way simply has no time for that bulls~~~ or risk.

    There are several other reasons why a single man would choose and should choose celibacy. things like risk or rape accusations or domestic violence. It happens, women get f~~~ing drunk and start fights. It happens all the f~~~ing time. They throw temper tantrums like f~~~ing kids, break appliances and furniture, they will attack you, curse at you, have the police called on you….etc….Why would we do that? Even if she is a NAWALT, I have better things to do than to entertain her life. I have paintings to paint and books to read, I have a hundred things to do as a man going his own way than to waste time and energy entertaining a woman for the chance to eat some pussy or cum.

    Why should Men At Large, stay celibate? Why is the end goal and ultimate purpose of MGTOW, celibacy?

    For starters, everything I said about a single man pertains here as well. But, lets say a man has a perfect NAWALT on his hands, why should he still strive for celibacy. For the good of all men!

    Hopefully you know what memes are. Memetics, memeplexes and so on. Obviously marriage is a f~~~ing joke and has been for 40 years since people f~~~ whoever they want outside of marriage. We’re dealing with a “free love” whore empire where women roam the land selling their pussies for 1st world material wealth. There are memes, learned behaviors that all women have picked up on. Memes are everywhere and they are reinforced daily by their use because they work or make sense. Misandry memes, Feminist memes, etc… Here’s some examples, “tough men don’t cry” “men are dumb” “men are easy and cheap” “you cant hit a girl” “man up!” “you can persuade a man to do anything for sex.” The kind of society where women can walk around and manipulate men like this is undesirable. This may sound conservative but its not beneficial for men, when women can get laid or hooked up with anything at the drop of a hat by using the promise of sex. It was better for us when women were expected to be loyal to men. IM NOT A TRADCON (traditional conservative) because traditionalism can never be returned to and I wouldn’t want to go back anyway.

    What Im trying to say here is that marriage is a failed institution. We can’t just get married and expect her to support us and stay loyal and never just get upset one day and ruin our whole life.

    But heres where they currently have us in a check mate. We can’t get married because its too dangerous on all fronts but we also SHOULD NOT STAY SEXUALLY ACTIVE AS BACHELORS. Why? Because we’re sponsoring and training the c~~~ carousel. We’re reinforcing feminist memes and keeping men down, keeping men valueless by allowing ourselves to be bought so easily with the simple wafting of some pussy odor. Men will kill to get that precious snapper and women now control everything because of it. The immoral and sexist laws, the constant attention seeking and manipulation, the epidemic of whoredom and STD’s…..its all from female biological instinct to manipulate men with sex. 

    You may think, “I’m so lucky tonight, I bought this chick like 5 beers and gave her a ride home and now she is f~~~ing me!” In truth, this is the most destructive thing you could have done for men at large. This is why MGTOW needs to be celibate in the end. We dont have time for this bulls~~~ games, petty rewards and titanic risks. He thinks he just got laid, no harm no foul, no commitment. All he did was legitimize that “men are cheap” and now another slut adds a notch to her belt and now she is better trained at using men so thanks for doing us all a solid by selling out. Women have 4 times as many sexual partners in their life as men because they choose when sex occurs. 20% of men receive sex consistently while 90% of women do. This is why women lead in being infected with STD’s, they spread eagle all the time to get what they want.

    Ultimately, MGTOW is by default, celibacy. When you’ve been Gone Your Own Way long enough and you’re a reasonably intelligent man, you can come to no other conclusion than to remain unmarried and sexually un-engaged. Not only is it good for you, but its the necessary step for men at large because its the only thing that will truly change how women treat men and how they engage themselves publicly as far as sexual discretion. This whoredom is disgusting and needs to be shown for what it is. The birth rate and economy is being ripped to shreds and it will not rebound until men collectively stop f~~~ing women. We have one leverage tool left and you all are still giving it away and perpetuating female manipulation. Of course there will always be some blue pill men who will not budge. Our mission is for women to run out of blue pill men so then they have to start playing by the rules.

     

    #64444
    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant

    Welcome.There is a huge MGTOW community on YouTube .Plenty to learn about if you want to.Stardusk,  Barbarossa etc.

    In my opinion imo the toxicity of women is on a spectrum but women slide back and forth on the spectrum depending on what’s convenient for them at that time.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #63184
    Schizoaffective
    schizoaffective
    Participant

    So, after spending sometime watching videos by the likes of Sandman, Barbarossa, and Thinking-Ape, I noticed they all share the view that MGTOW, if widely adopted, would cause the destruction of Western Civilization and that this is a good thing.

    Firstly, fortunately, I don’t think this could happen and here’s why: 1 man can can impregnate something like 15 women a month. This means that even if 50% of men become MGTOW, society can still prevent a demographic crisis by increasing taxes and increasing welfare spending for single mothers. Women make up the majority of the voting population MGTOW would be powerless to stop it.

    Secondly, I question WHY all these prominent members of the MGTOW community are calling for the downfall of civilization. We’re all dependent on civilization for the lifestyles we lead and the many luxuries we take for granted. Intentionally causing an economic collapse by not having children seems irrational and vindictive. Why cut off your nose to spite your face?

    What do you guys think?

    #59371
    Zuberi Tau
    Zuberi Tau
    Participant

    Feminism didnt ruin women because feminism came about because of women’s nature.

    Or as Barbarossa put it “Feminism didn’t ruin women, it explained them.”

    I’d argue that their very empowerment movement is poisoning them from ever having to develop a personality free of toxicity and bile.

    Here’s another perspective, why would they care about personality when they’re being empowered(fattened up and dumbed down) by their SJW babysitters?

    They brought it on themselves.

     

    #58754

    In reply to: Female psychology

    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant

    Barbarossa goes pretty deep into this subject .I strongly suggest  all of his videos.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/barbarossaaaa

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #58658

    In reply to: Sheddingoftheego

    RoyDal
    RoyDal
    Participant

    Thanks for the tip. I loves me some Barbarossa! Here is one I stumbled across today: The Other McCain http://theothermccain.com/ He writes thoughtful, well documented articles. I got some new insights into the feminist mind.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #58263

    In reply to: Curious

    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant

    If you want to learn about MGTOW there is Stardusk Barbarossa (BarBar) RazorBladeKandy and many many others.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #57350

    Anonymous

    “the juice just isnt worth the squeeze”- barbarossaa

    #57012
    RoyDal
    RoyDal
    Participant

    Barbarossa’s Latest

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #56926
    Albert
    Albert
    Participant
    #56924

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    #56917
    Lazarus Dreaming
    Lazarus Dreaming
    Participant

    I was looking for Barbarossas YouTube channel and there doesnt seem to be one.  I know he has a few vids of his here on this site, but with all I hear about him I assumed there was quite a bit of content.  Can anyone show me where I can find all of his vids?

     

    Von

    Sam Raven
    Sam Raven
    Participant

    MGTOW doesn’t give a s~~~ what women or society think. MRA are ‘hoping’ that somehow being honorable and working within a system that’s rotten at the foundation they will somehow get somewhere. Its a fool’s errand.

    The MRA thinks that by ‘talking’ about it to the feminists and their mangina/white knight stilleto lickers (who have shown time and again they don’t believe in rational debate or logic),  that somehow this will change the situation. They are deluded and have shown their inability to handle the situation as shown in that feminist incident in Canada involving the false fire alarm and in doing so have shown that having a rational debate does not work with these people.

    MGTOW realizes the entire society is fundamentally made of cancer and Fail. The entire society has over the last few thousand years, allowed the religion of money and materialism to become the measure of value of a person, in this case a man. It has metastasized into something so toxic its considered standard for a woman to marry, have kids and then divorce a man and drain him of all his hard earned money without a single thought to what the man is going through, considering the male human does the riskier jobs and suffers more death and injury and generally suffers more stress and therefore has a shorter life. Then again who wants to live another extra day on this f~~~ed up world?

    Good luck telling the above to any westernized woman when women in general do not use logic. Hence MGTOW says, I am done, and I want out like Barbarossa says.

    MGTOW doesn’t give a f~~~ about society’s problems, because society doesn’t give a f~~~ about men. Fair deal.

    #56387

    In reply to: Hello there

    Mango Ingaway
    Mango Ingaway
    Participant

    When i asked her multiple times WHY. Her reply was:”i can’t explain it either.”

    Translation: “I’m a spoilt bitch and I felt like dumping you.”  Or maybe even (sorry if this sounds harsh, but I wouldn’t be surprised) that she was already riding another dick…

    try to push the ego and getting some man with more social status……and never be satisfied with the current status

    You said you didn’t know why she dumped you, well there you have it. That may hurt to know that, but it’s probably the truth. Don’t let it bring you down, though. Female approval is NOT a good indicator of a man’s worth AT ALL. Having a gf/wife doesn’t mean anything about you except that you can cater to a t~~~’s needs, nothing else.

    They get unhappy because the want more, but they can’t offer very much on their own

    They indeed have nothing going on for themselves except their vagina, in most cases.

    I only have male friends. Sounds sad,

    I doubt it’ll sound sad to your fellow mgtow’s, don’t worry about that. 🙂 Male friends are less drama and more fun. Also, you can be sure that when you can talk to them, you won’t have the whole city knowing what you told them 2 hours later.

    Sometimes you want a girl but you watch a porn and then these thoughts are gone.

    “Post-cum clarity” as someone called it, that when your thoughts get clouded because you’re horny. Then you rub one out and see clearly again.
    Nothing weird about that. Pretty much all males experience it, it’s just that a lot of them don’t realize it.

    That makes me mad.

    Don’t think about it, do something you like instead. They have too many blue pillers catering to them to even think about changing their behaviour. Don’t expect them to change anytime soon, just focus on improving yourself. As a mgtow I’m young too, and people in relationships seem all happy and everything (in appearance), but you’ll see how things will have changed in 10 years’ time when half of them will have divorced. You’ll be looking at them sitting on your money and free time 😉
    And about the ones who didn’t get divorced, well, just because you’re still married doesn’t mean you’re happy.

    By the way, don’t worry about the anger, it will go away, slowly but surely, or maybe even pretty quickly, who knows? It’s just about accepting female nature and not giving a s~~~ about it. The time you spend thinking about women is wasted time, nothing else. I think it’s Barbarossa who said that marriage is a waste of male potential, and I fully agree with him! No one besides yourself can make you happy, so go mgtow.

    Cheers man!

    It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

    #56193
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    We’re way too busy with REAL businesses and clients – and ourselves – to concentrate on anyone else in the Mansophere. We do food, car, clothing , real estate and shoe companies as our everyday work. We don’t need to f~~~ around with a Roosh.

    With his ego, we would answer his ad and he would think we WANT to do it.
    Instead of realizing ….. for us, it would be like charity.

    We help because thats what we do. We helped out Barbarossa too and donated a couple of days work.
    It’s how we live with ourselves. We come with good intentions.

    If other corners of the Manosphere ( AVFM or whoever) want to be assholes about everything, that’s not our problem.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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