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  • #54974

    Anonymous

    red pill is ALL ABOUT GETTING LAID- everything pua’s do is for pussy, it is the biggest pussybegging out there

    MGTOW do not abstain from women, that is something for each man to decide. 2 of the best mgtow content producers:

    stardusk-abstains from women

    barbarossaa- f~~~s bitches

    that user gref got it completely wrong, by all means have sex as a mgtow, noone said you cant. just dont pussybeg like these “redpillers”

     

     

    #54961

    Anonymous

    barbarossaa has a mgtow glossary on his website

    sheddingoftheego

    #54374

    In reply to: AFVM at it again

    RoyDal
    RoyDal
    Participant

    (Barbarossa’s) Response to Paul Joseph Watson, On “Neo Masculinism” “infowars”

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #54203

    In reply to: AFVM at it again

    Ned Trent
    Ned Trent
    Participant

    Well gents, I am glad to report that good ol’ pal Barbarossaa very quickly reacted to that (enjoy!):

     

    I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

    #53426

    In reply to: New w/ Questions

    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    @KM I would have sent him to go listen to some Barbarossaa and Stardusk but I figured that would be giving steak to a toothless baby.

    @mgtowwave In re-scamming my earlier reply to you, it occurred how rude it came off. Intended for it to be “amusingly harsh” with a flare of exaggeration. Not an attack. I was in hamster-nuking mode, please understand. Smiles.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #53425

    In reply to: New w/ Questions

    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant

    @KM I would have sent him to go listen to some Barbarossaa and Stardusk but I figured that would be giving steak to a toothless baby.

    Some basic redpill precepts about female behavior like hypergamy and briffaults law and even some Bax would or could be a place for him/her/it to start.I’m sure Mark is living in a Disney bluepill dream.If he woke up it would surely cause brain damage.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #51206
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Barbarossa is intellectually gifted. But Spetsnaz can gut you. He take you places you kinda don’t really want to go – or are not ready to go. The compelling visual backdrop helps keep you in your seat – even if you weren’t prepared. It’s like the book the Manipulated Man. It’s pro-male in it’s intent, and honesty, but you’re hollowed out after reading it because it doesn’t read “pro male”. Still, you want to read it again …. and then thank her for doing you the favor of reminding the man of his place in the world – or how the world sees you. Spetsnaz is truly illusion-shattering.

    @soldier-medic best to you and salutations from us. Don’t be too much of a stranger.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #50968
    Soldier-Medic
    Soldier-Medic
    Participant

    I have only been on MGTOW.com for only a few weeks.  Before joining this site I thought that I had some things pretty well figured out.  Not just about social and legal injustice that men face in our culture(s), but also about my self perception.

    I started watching Spetsnaz’s Youtube channel I have been more profoundly affected by what he has to say than anything that I have read or heard before.  I am a psychology student so his content speaks to me in a way some other’s, like Babarossa do not.  Not that Barbarossa doesn’t call it like it is.

    I gotta tell you guys that I’m just chocking on the Red Pills right now and have found myself alternating between periods of seething rage and out and out crying.  I’m having moments of clarity that are leaving me stunned and it’s just too much right now.

    I gotta check out of the net for a few weeks and assimilate.

    See you then.

    "I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

    #49560
    BD
    BD
    Participant

    Welcome BritGHOW, and thank you for mentioning Thorium, for some reason I had missed out on him, he’s awesome!! I have been watching a lot of Spetznaz, Tom Leykis, Sandman, Mark Rubov, Terrence Popp, and of course the great Barbarossa. Cheers and enjoy the great company here!

    Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

    #49444
    BritGHOW
    BritGHOW
    Participant

    Good evening gentlemen,

    31 year young Brit long since gone my own way (hence the name) but only recently introduced to MGTOW via the works of Barbarossa, Raging Golden Eagle and Thorium, been reading the forums as an observer for a couple of weeks and have been impressed by what I’ve seen, finally signed up as I feel this is somewhere I can contribute and be comfortable.

    #49425
    Soldier-Medic
    Soldier-Medic
    Participant

    I have noticed that when a person makes the assertion that you are something or someone (weather it’s true or not) they are in some way projecting.

    Projecting either their fears – fear of being gay

    Insecurities – person is gay and is actually insecure about it.

    Desires – perhaps she wants to watch

    Hatreds – hates men and wants them to be gay so that they are less in their eyes in some way.  I believe that Barbarossa had something to say about this.

    In high school I was generally labeled gay.  Odd since I played football, dated (not a virgin by 15), rebuilt my own 1967 GMC pick-up truck.

    In the army, homosexuals frequently labeled me as gay.  I believe that it was primarily because I don’t have any homophobia.  As a medic, I had my fingers/hands in or on every part of the male anatomy.  If you are homophobic in that profession you are going to have problems.  I even had a gay Captain that was a physician hit on me.  I don’t act gay or have any feminine mannerism.  Maybe they thought I was a top.  I don’t know.  I didn’t care then and doubly don’t care now.

    If you are acquainted with people that may think you are gay and they have a problem with it then move on.

    Life is too short to have to constantly validate you identity with people that don’t matter in your life.

    "I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

    Dizeliun
    Dizeliun
    Participant

    HI EVERYONE, DIZELIUN HERE. TODAY’S INTRODUCTION, IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY A DONATION; FROM, DIZE. AND HERE’S, WHAT HE HAS TO SAY: (How I picture Sandman’s speech if it was formatted the way he talks)

    I have been MGTOW for little over a year now with no real incentive into revealing myself as such. Yet I am compelled to, as I assume most of you who roam these forums are. I guess in a search for like-minded individuals to express our thoughts and connect freely on topics we share the same stance on. I am fairly young in this movement, being 22, yet I’m glad I found this movement. Writing this right now does not feel like a waste of time since I technically have saved years of my life simply by digesting this pill. I shall delve into a little about myself for anybody interested. I personally will never read more than 2-3 of these introductions, yet having everybodies initial experiences and stories written down in archive (Including myself) is more important than the amount of actual readers.

    It started young, at the age of two my parents divorced and I was taken custody with my mother, only to see my father once a week. My young brother and I were born on the same day, two years apart. Growing up, my mother was in abusive relationships against her physically, and remember my dad stepping in to fend off the men even though he was now with another woman. I think this was to do with him wanting to protect and make sure we kids were alright in the situations. Seeing this abuse against my mom and being powerless against the men that would throw me and my brother aside and continue to yell, swear, and hit our mom made us grow up fast.

    I remember in grade school having “girlfriends” which was no more than a title since you never really interacted with them in any way. During this time as a child I was often hit by my mom for “acting out” which looking back on it was just a boy being a boy. I can’t really put an age on it, but I felt really alone from a early age, going into middle-school I found a group with I felt I could connect with, and this was the hip-hop / rap group. I loved the F~~~ YOU attitude of the music and style, I would sag my pants and wear G-UNIT / ECHO clothing to express myself. I would get into school fights often and really seek blood. Shoplifting, trespassing, smoking / selling weed,  vandalism / graffiti took up the majority of my time within middle school. Looking back I feel as though it was a barrier I put up, a masquerade, a front.

    I didn’t know if I wanted to be with girls at this time, I was really confused. I had self-esteem issues, not only that but I felt if my own mother abuses me what would these girls do? I started to change as I entered high-school. After being caught by the cops on multiple occasions I was kind of forced to stay inside and I found video-gaming. Resistance: Fall of Man / CoD: MW / World of Warcraft, NUFF SAID. This brought out a side of me I always wanted to express. A competitive drive to be the best at whatever game was in-front of me. Obtaining rank of the best Clans / Guilds through hard work, talent, and skilled play made me feel finally accepted in the communities these games fostered. Yet the more I got immersed into the realms and worlds, the further I became from reality. Wake up, slack in school, get home, COD for 2 hours, WoW Achievement Hunt for 2 hours, then group up and Hardcore Raid for 6 hours, and hit the sack at 1-2AM and restart the next day. This was my life, I didn’t have “Friends”, I had “people I talked to at school”. And if you weren’t a 2.0 K/D in COD MINIMUM?!?!? f~~~ off N00B. This was my mentality for a majority of my high school life.

    I didn’t know what path I wanted to take. I foolishly ignored my education for my entire life since I felt it as useless, which it was but that’s another topic. I found myself at the crossroads, do I go to college or find a job. I was unable to attend University due to my lacking grades and I decided to attend College for an Electrical Engineering Diploma. I learned more over these passed four years of College than in my entire life. I have realized every relationship I enter tends to go the same way, I start off by trying to obtain her validation for sex, and once I f~~~ed her I start to lose my attraction toward her and move to the next one. This “GAME” takes up a majority of your time if you are intending to “PLAY” it. I could care less about what a girl thinks of me, I’m didn’t opt out because I couldn’t “get pussy” I opted out because it was a general waste of my f~~~ing time.

    I honestly do not remember how I got into watching MGTOW, and I really wish I did remember. Yet I believe it was LuiMarco who first brought on the term MGTOW to me. Every single thing he said in those videos resonated with 100% logic and clarity to me. Even looking at my own father who had three kids from two separate relationships paying child support out his ass for my mom to blow on cigarettes, and his other ex-wife which moved his first born (my half-brother) to Florida from Canada. And all of these years men who were already married (especially while I was working as an co-op apprentice electrician in high school on construction sites) saying to me “Never get married man, NEVER NEVER NEVER GET MARRIED TRUST US” as I laughing it off, since I knew I never really wanted to in the first place. I think they thought I was that type of guy who would say “Yeah I won’t” then turn around and fall for it. These men I saw daily who bent over backwards and praised females, or the mentality of “Act on your best behavior around women”. It felt FAKE, It felt like an ACT, and I saw it from the get-go as such.

    I began searching MGTOW and landed upon Sandman… ughhh -.-‘ To be fair I guess Sandman’s video quality did pull me into his ideals, and strengthened my MGTOW beliefs. some of his videos I really like. But lately within the last three months his videos are trash, and I don’t know if that is because I have been searching for the better MGTOW content producers or if he really is just producing worse and worse content, possibly both.

    I am happy with where I am at today mentally and physically, albeit financially I am struggling since I am looking to finally attend University in the upcoming fall to complete my B. Eng. and go on to obtain P. Eng. while trying to subsidize school / food / rent on my own. They say you are a different person every 7 years. I tend to agree; 0-7 was my Innocence, 7-14 was my troubled state, 14-21 was learning about myself, 21-present I am now bettering myself with MGTOW playing a large role in my development young man.

     

    I’d like to mention my favourite MGTOW youtubers in no particular order:

    Neo Unplugged (Love his Anger and Passion he brings)

    Barbarossa (Can talk intellectually for hours)

    Niko Choski (Calm, and relaxing)

    MGTOW Messenger (Experienced)

    Raging Golden Eagle (Having way to much fun… As always)

    Turd Flinging Monkey (Great Analogies)

    Dark Knight (Cinematic)

    Mayor of MGTOW (Outspoken)

    RazorBladeKandy (Intelligent Anonymous  Style)

    These channels above, are the ones I regularly follow among the others in which I roam video to video. I hope everybody that produces MGTOW content continues to do so and spreads the message further. Keep up the great content and would like to join in on MGTOW hangouts if ever possible. They say

    ANYWAYS, THAT’S IT FOR TODAY’S INTRODUCTION. THANK YOU DIZE, FOR ENLIGHTENING ME ON YOUR STORY. AS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER, LIKE MY FACEBOOK, AND SUBSCRIBE. SO ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY, ANNNND.. CCCHEEEERSZSZ…

    edited: Took out weird “<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>” formatting errors</span>

    I am in full agreement with you, MadScientist.

    Watching this video IS swallowing the red pill.  The revelation that women hate you because you are a man, and that society thinks it is so acceptable that it is mainstream comedy.  How do you feel about Princess now?  I’m finding it hard to find reasons to keep looking for her.

    In fact, like Barbarossa said, “…pesticide on the male soul….I want out.”

    BVC

    Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

    #45874

    Anonymous

    I haven’t listened to Stardusk just yet (I only heard about the little bit of drama between him and Sandman when I watched Sandman’s videos more often), but I’ve enjoyed Neo and Barbarossa so far from the little I’ve heard from them.  I’ve also enjoyed the Mayor of MGTOWn, BlackRam313, and The Dark Knight as well.  The one I watch/listen to the most is likely Johntheother, though.

    HappyGoLucky
    HappyGoLucky
    Spectator

    im not denying that they are helping(that would be absurd)-of course they contribute im simply saying it will RARELY be a women who comes and FINDS some thing new- such as einstien with his theory of relativity thats why i linked barbarossa’s vid- as far as we know it is only men and a very small(like 1%) of women who are capable of doing this

    I think less than 0.01% of men make scientific breakthroughs not all of us can do that. Maybe 0.00001% of women but what’s the point of this? Women will eventually catch up to men in STEM at university. They are doing equally better in science and math at school, like I said before, and better in all subjects

    I intended to talk a bit about education but, let me ask first What is your point in this discussion? Not All Women Are Like That? Or that women are actually superior in term of intelligent and men are just violent apes? Or some deep philosophy that I can’t comprehend here?

    I’m sorry but this is off topic and I would like to keep this thread on the topic of education.


    Anonymous

    im not denying that they are helping(that would be absurd)-of course they contribute

    im simply saying it will RARELY be a women who comes and FINDS some thing new- such as einstien with his theory of relativity

    thats why i linked barbarossa’s vid- as far as we know it is only men and a very small(like 1%) of women who are capable of doing this

    #43959
    HappyGoLucky
    HappyGoLucky
    Spectator

    Let me assure you that I’m not a woman. Anyways…..

    marriage is not patriarchal…”sacred matrimony” as for your questions 1.belief and reality are two different things- men are better than women at ALMOST everything 2.once education is made for guys and not tailored specifically for girls then guys will start to surpass. 3. how long?eternity 4.i refer to answer 1 5. in relation to gynocentrism, men only need to be aware of it. destroying it will take the artificial womb, male birth control, and sex robots-until then we just have to wake men up second set of questions- 1.they will leave “there’s this thing called MGTOW you might wanna watch out for it”-barbarossa 2. once we are free from gynocentrism through technologies listed in 5, women will have 2 choices, go extinct, or become self reliant 3.heading towards?we are in a matriarchy, and no, we probably wont be equals(any time soon)- maybe in a few centuries 4. yes we can but MGTOW dont want to go back to a patriarchy-oppressing women sounds like alot of work. At this point im fairly sure you are a woman.

    What is the basis for your reasoning when you say “guys will start to surpass”? Education was not tailored for girls 50-100 years ago yet girls were still surpassing boys in school.

     

    Men can’t really leave society. We will always need sex, entertainment, fun-organized-activities and jobs. All of them will involve interactions with women. We can stop marriages and relationships, but everything else will remain.

     

    Actually oppressing women is no work at all and requires a few laws to be passed and bitches slapped, but like with iceland, do you really need to be told that the economies of the world CANNOT SURVIVE AND WILL COLLAPSE without the participation of women? With that in mind, how can you say that we can go back to patriarchy again?

     

    Also, I’d like to correct you when you say that men are better at almost everything. There is a lot of scientific evidence that shows that females are better than males at many things, just as males are better than females at many things (like physical tasks)

    #43953

    Anonymous

    marriage is not patriarchal…”sacred matrimony” as for your questions

    1.belief and reality are two different things- men are better than women at ALMOST everything

    2.once education is made for guys and not tailored specifically for girls then guys will start to surpass.

    3. how long?eternity

    4.i refer to answer 1

    5. in relation to gynocentrism, men only need to be aware of it. destroying it will take the artificial womb, male birth control, and sex robots-until then we just have to wake men up

    second set of questions-

    1.they will leave “there’s this thing called MGTOW you might wanna watch out for it”-barbarossa

    2. once we are free from gynocentrism through technologies listed in 5, women will have 2 choices, go extinct, or become self reliant

    3.heading towards?we are in a matriarchy, and no, we probably wont be equals(any time soon)- maybe in a few centuries

    4. yes we can but MGTOW dont want to go back to a patriarchy-oppressing women sounds like alot of work.

    At this point im fairly sure you are a woman.

     

    #43667
    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant

    I think some of the history of MGTOW is very relevant.

    http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2006/01/history-of-mens-movement-according-to.html.

    From what i have seen it started with a very traditional /tradcon philosophy

     
    <h3 class=”post-title entry-title”>”MGTOW Manifesto</h3>
     

     

    <span style=”font-size: 130%;”>MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY (MGTOW) </span>

    The goal is to instill masculinity in men, femininity in women, and work toward limited government!

    By instilling masculinity in men, we make men self-reliant, proud, and independent.

    By instilling femininity in women, we make them nurturing, supporting, and responsible.

    By working for a limited government, we are working for freedom and justice.

    Women having “other qualities” is not interesting to men because we don’t need them! Femininity will be the price women pay for enjoying masculinity in me””””

    One thing I wanna say before i go on.I dont think you can” install” femininity in women.Try and install femininity in andria dworkin.They either have it or they dont

    Source :

    http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2001/02/mgtow-manifesto.html

    And then it grew and changed with thinkers like  Stardusk and Barbarossa https://www.youtube.com/user/barbarossaaaa

    and https://www.youtube.com/user/Stardusk  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1qRcO1OehgkOD_fHsu_uQ .

    And many others on YouTube

    And thought from thinkers of past decades like Robert Briffault:

    “The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.”

    And Belfort Bax http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Belfort_Bax

    Who wrote The Fraud of Feminism http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Fraud_of_Feminism

    And more recently Karen  straughan https://www.youtube.com/user/girlwriteswhat .I will say right now that imo GWW has become utterly useless and increasingly toxic

    And Helen Smith “Men on Strike”http://www.amazon.com/Men-Strike-Boycotting-Marriage-Fatherhood/dp/1594037620

    And Milo Yiannopoulos in his article  The Sexodus  http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/04/the-sexodus-part-1-the-men-giving-up-on-women-and-checking-out-of-society/

    With all this work i say that

    “MGTOW is basically the statement of self-ownership and saying that only you have the right to decide what your goals in life should be.”

    Only scratches the surface.

     

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn


    Anonymous

    With respect, since I’m not super acquainted with you, all of us should read entire threads before we post. Not to gloat but I always read the thread specifically because I don’t want to jump in like an idiot, or say things that have already been said or take the wrong side etc… I’m not trying to rag on you but you likely agree with me more than them. Sandman is just another mgtow, good bad or indifferent. He certainly doesn’t deserve s~~~ like this, stated in this thread earlier…

    Well, since I didn’t want to do that because of the number of the posts already here, I actually mentioned this:

    I got here late, and I am not entirely sure of the whole discussion, but I think this last post needs addressing.

    See? I was not criticizing the whole post because I am not interested in this whole discussion. What I was trying to address was the logical fallacy you committed:

    HAS STARDUSK OR SPETSNAZ DENOUNCED SANDMAN? HAS BARBAROSSA DENOUNCED SANDMAN?

    This one.

    Which is why I did my response. Personally? I don’t like Sandman and I don’t think he is a Mgtow. And not just because of the video that apparently set everyone on fire. But because, for a few videos now, he has been hinting that we should leave some blue pill men as blue piller to keep the state running. Although there is no way one can force other men to see the truth, I also think it is wrong just keep men believing in the lie that is this gynocentric world if the opportunity comes to offer some advice, just for the sake of feeding the machine (state). This is not how men thinks, that’s how a WOMAN think. Condemning a whole gender, the MALE gender, for the sake of the minority. The video where he calls mgtows cowards, for me, was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. Don’t ask me which videos he said that it was better to leave some blue pill man as blue pillers though. It was sometime ago when I saw those videos and with him uploading 1 video a day now, at this point I will not have the patience/time to go back and try to guess which video he started with this s~~~. I did that the last time I mentioned this on youtube and was already a pain to find the videos were he hints that. At this point, he already made more 15 to 20 videos since I did my little research.

    But all this is irrelevant for what I am/was trying to criticize. I am talking about logical fallacies.

    I jump the gun sometimes, so I don’t have a problem looking like a fool, specially not here on the internet, since when I am showed to be wrong through logical reasoning more often than not I will admit being wrong. But I don’t think this was one of those times.  Just saying.

    Just research about logical fallacies man, it will help in your argumentation. It will probably help say more honest things than “Sandman is mgtow because Barbarossa didn’t went after him.” Like I said, validation through authority, not a valid argument, at all.

    Anyway, as I mentioned before, I am really not interested defending or accusing Sandman. He is an asshole as far as I am concerned. I may find something that would make me change my mind, but so far that’s not the case.

    I’m out of here.

    Cheers.

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