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  • #43408

    Anonymous

    I got here late, and I am not entirely sure of the whole discussion, but I think this last post needs addressing.

    HAS STARDUSK OR SPETSNAZ DENOUNCED SANDMAN? HAS BARBAROSSA DENOUNCED SANDMAN?

    So WHAT?!? People are free to think what they will, and to EXPRESS as they WILL! Do we need permission of Stardusk, Spetnaz or Barbarossa to call out who we think are detractors? NO. Everyone is free to form their own opinions. You can state your case defending Sandaman and that’s all you can do. People can agree with you, people can DISAGREE with you. But don’t give me this “approval by authority” bulls~~~! The fact that these people didn’t made a video calling out Sandman means NOTHING. Especially when there are plenty of mgtows that made videos DOING SO. Are you judging them by their NAME instead of their CONTENT?

    And by the way, Stardusk (a.k.a Thinking Ape) made PLENTY of videos denouncing Sandman. Just search under his new name.

    As for this:

    Did it ever occur to you that a guy needs to still make a living and can’t freely give 40 hours a week making topnotch, informative mgtow videos? Did it ever occur to you that Sandman’s style and strategy is reaching across the web and gathering men who agree with our cause? Did you ever consider that Sandman is doing us a tremendous service; that we should be thanking him profusely for his successful efforts to grow mgtow?

    This is very debatable, but I am just not in the mood and this type of discussion is not my cup of tea. Sandman is not my favorite youtuber anyway, and I unsubscribed from him sometime ago. His videos are just not worth it anymore. I just wanted to point out the logical fallacy of validation by authority happening here (or whatever the name is, I have a link for logical fallacies, but not with me right now).

    My 2 cents.

    Cheers

     

    #43382

    This thread isn’t for talking s~~~ about a good man. I ask my question again:

    HAS STARDUSK OR SPETSNAZ DENOUNCED SANDMAN? HAS BARBAROSSA DENOUNCED SANDMAN?

    NO! THEY HAVE NOT.

    So your little hater pals who make shoddy vids and fill their videos with weak ass arguments can go f~~~ themselves. I don’t give a s~~~ if Sandman invented a few donators, or that he accepts donations in the first place. I don’t care if he endorse social media that I don’t participate in.

    Did it ever occur to you that a guy needs to still make a living and can’t freely give 40 hours a week making topnotch, informative mgtow videos? Did it ever occur to you that Sandman’s style and strategy is reaching across the web and gathering men who agree with our cause? Did you ever consider that Sandman is doing us a tremendous service; that we should be thanking him profusely for his successful efforts to grow mgtow? 

     

     

    #43325
    Sam Raven
    Sam Raven
    Participant

    Only good woman to go out with isn’t too involved with your life, like detached. No romantic involvement, if you find out she’s f~~~ing other women leave her straightaway, just make sure you use a condom AT ALL TIMES and don’t leave it lying around, used/unused for her to use it for her own ends.

    Used: dump the semen inside of the condom into her c~~~ and make herself pregnant

    Unused: she might poke holes through it so that you still make her pregnant

    The above advice is also mentioned by Barbarossa and Mgtow Messenger. You have been warned.

     

    I have to disagree wholeheartedly. Sandman is a reputable MGHOW that has increased our awareness and gathered thousands to our ranks. His Monks of MGTOW video, however perceived, doesn’t change his allegiance. 

    Maybe you need to watch more of his videos, perhaps the video where he corrects all these accusations against him– “Are Gay Men Lucky?-MGTOW.”  

    Do you see Stardusk or Spetsnaz burning Sandman? Has Barbarossa come out and taken a s~~~ on Sandman? No. If they have, I haven’t seen it.

    It’s funny how the most insecure men, the ones who need to take advice the most, lash out like maniacs and jump onto cow-herd hate wagons against the MGTOW giants they once idolized. If their hero missteps or misspeaks or does anything human, his overwhelming positive contribution is thrown to the side and he’s branded a heretic.

    F~~~ off with all that negative stuff. Sandman is still the s~~~. He turned his cheek, took all the heat and hasn’t skipped a beat. There’s a s~~~ load of haters. I’m a stage 3 MGHOW and have been for over 18 months. I refuse obvious female attempts to warm up to me, to try and entice me into a relationship or even causal fun. I just know too much and stay away entirely. No sex period. I’m not some PUA or anything and I’m not trying to brag, I’m just saying that I don’t sleep with or date women, period and I found no offense whatsoever at Sandmans Monks of MGTOW. He had a great point that was twisted against him by guys whose scars are apparently still too tender. No problem, when you’re ready to face your manly dark emotions without resorting to apathy, good to go. It’s a process of male grieving. I’ve been there and I worked past it. There’s people who are solely celibate because of straight-up hatred and anger towards women, directly linked to recent break-up. This is not the reason to not have sex. Even if they wanted sex, no one wants to be around these dudes who are on the verge of collapse from anger and resentment.

    Nowhere did Sandman call men cowards who remain celibate. Nowhere did he encourage dating or befriending women. He called men cowards who refuse to deal with their emotions. Big difference guys.

     

     

     

    Stardusk, Barbarossa, Spetsnaz/Neo Unplugged/ Sandman

    I just wanted to encourage MGTOW to thoroughly explore these men’s videos on Youtube, (if you haven’t already). Their combined influence is beyond an adequate explanation. You’d could literally listen to hours of them every night for a year or more.

    I’m 1.5 years into MGTOW stage 3 celibacy and have only begun to take in their exquisite content. I listen to Sandman’s daily redpill at lunch. In the evening, I lose hours listening to Stardusk (thinking ape tv) and Spetsnaz. I’ve only heard a little from Barbarossa so far but he is well articulated and funny as well. From what I gather, Neo Unplugged is also a brilliant chap living over seas. Of all these guys, I think BarBar is the only American. Sandman is Canadian, Spetsnaz is Australian I believe, Stardusk seems to have lived everywhere but sounds American, Neo seems American but lives far away.

    Anyway, I could never briefly describe their positive effect on me. I’m certain there are probably more men like them. I specifically enjoy the deep introspection and exploration of human instinct. These guys definitely know their s~~~. Posers mgtows beware, when you post, we can see straight through your bulls~~~ and can see that you haven’t availed yourself of these mgtow contemplatives (Christian mgtow, Sexually active mgtow). You still are purple pillers IMHO. Enough said.

    All I can say is that if you haven’t availed yourself of these sources, you are missing out big time. I’d thought I’d taken the redpill while only having availed myself of Sandman. Stardusk’s 5 hour compilation was like a redpill you truly can’t go back from. Then I stated in on Spetsnaz and was absolutely floored.

    There’s just no going back now for me. I know too much now. Any convictions I previously had about mgtow were confirmed and dramatically expanded on.

    Happy Listening and hope to here how these MGTOW revolutionaries have changed you. As a mgtow myself, I have built such a solid foundation of self esteem and respect for Men through the help of these guys’ videos, I just hope to tell others about it so they can grow as men.

    #42804
    GZUS F CHRIST
    GZUS F CHRIST
    Participant

    Thanks BrainPilot.
    Yeah, I do know how very fortunate I am in with my situation. I’ve seen many of my friends get f~~~ed over by there baby mothers regarding their kids. It’s literally almost every single one of them that has a child, that isn’t with the mother any more. Unless they are forking over money every single month.
    When I first had my son living with just me and him, I swallowed my pride and went on welfare for a bit. I couldn’t afford to pay for child care during the day and work at the same time, so I signed up and hated every minute of it. I never took my child with me to the welfare office but every time I went in there it was just packed full of single mothers OR people with mental problems or drug addictions and by far the women in their where the rudest most entitled people in there. They’d complain about how long they had to stay in line to for “MY CHEQUE‘ as they’d politely put it. Talking on their cellphones in the line (and it was a long line btw) talking to people about “pay day”. Holy f~~~ I couldn’t believe these bitches. It was the only ‘work’ they had to do all month was stand in that line and they couldn’t even hold there s~~~ together and be appreciative. F~~~, when I got approved and then approved that they’d cover my day care I felt like I hit the lotto. But these broads go into it with the mind set like ‘where my money at?’
    Anyway, the reason I brought this up is because I guess the process with the welfare system here is after your on the system for a couple months, you get a court summonds for family court so that they can set up a mandatory child support order, which I get, because the government wants to get paid for paying for your f~~~ up… But anyway, so I go to court. My ex was a no show. The judge is like “when was the last time you talked to XXXX’ Im like “I don’t know, maybe 3 months ago” Judge says “Do you have an address for her?” I said “No” the judge goes, “Do you know where she works?” And I said “No, I don’t even know if she works” Then the judge wrote down some things and BOOM. My baby momma was ordered to pay ZERO dollars a month. Now I’m fine with that in the sense that I don’t want or need anything from a female ESPECIALLY in regards to raising my son. But what f~~~ing irks me, is how I have so many male friends that have been in the exact same, but opposite situation where as the judge just pulls a random number out of their ass that the father has to pay (because he’s a male ) and it is on them to make the payments or prove that those payments are set unjustly high. Which usually costs them a bunch of money to do anyway. So yeah, I am really fortunate everything worked out for me as it has so far.

    Here is a transcript of what I heard on a Youtube clip that for some reason resonated with me so I just wanted toss this up.
    “We created the lies of romantic love and chivilry and traditionalism because men needed to believe that women were with them because they loved them, Instead of because they needed them. And when women figured out they no longer needed men; they could work for themselves or extract money from the government. Then that little fantasy [love] was shattered into a billion pieces. I like to call it uhhhh the feminist D.M.T. trip.”
    ~Barbarossa

    #42062

    In reply to: A rather long intro

    Atton
    Atton
    Participant

    Hi Atton and welcome to the MGTOW forums, thanks for joining and making an intro. It accidentally ended up in “spam” because of some strange characters (use the TEXT tab on the right when composing) but I cleaned it up for you and made it visible on the site. It wasn’t a long intro compared to many but I like it. Thanks for introducing yourself. Happy to have you here! And that you found your own way. Hope to hear more from you and you will join in anytime you’re inspired. Big Barbarossa fan here too….

    Heil bar bar and thanks.

     

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #42042

    In reply to: Don't be like them.

    Sam Raven
    Sam Raven
    Participant

    Your post sounds a lot like how Barbarossa would write it.

    I figured a long time ago that ‘love’ as society says it is a bulls~~~ psyche-job.

    #42002

    In reply to: Feminism in Sweden

    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant

    Men in Sweden would benefit a lot from material  MGTOW being produced  .

    Men all over the world would benifit because we are having to deal with the natural toxicity that women evolved with AND the misandry produced from feminist doctrine.

    Feminist misandry we are all aware of  but then there is this :

    Natural female toxicity that has few constraints because of gynocentrism and feminism

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html

    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10615-014-0474-5

    https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

    Notice how nobody cares about these things that women do untill they affect women.

    and then

    http://web.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081112074436.htm  <—- then we wonder why women cheat.

    Men need to beware and be aware.

    Because of this im hoping that MGTOW content will be translated for men all over the world.

    There is tons of material out there that can be translated for into different languages for men to learn from.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrSJF7GT6MOm6PxYmv0H3_g/videos

    https://www.youtube.com/user/barbarossaaaa

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1qRcO1OehgkOD_fHsu_uQ

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #41994

    In reply to: A rather long intro

    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Hi Atton and welcome to the MGTOW forums, thanks for joining and making an intro. It accidentally ended up in “spam” because of some strange characters (use the TEXT tab on the right when composing) but I cleaned it up for you and made it visible on the site. It wasn’t a long intro compared to many but I like it. Thanks for introducing yourself.

    Happy to have you here! And that you found your own way. Hope to hear more from you and you will join in anytime you’re inspired.

    Big Barbarossa fan here too….

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #41799
    Atton
    Atton
    Participant

    My name is Atton Mathews I live in South Australia and have for my entire life. I found this website from a video producer on Youtube. I made my trip toward the red pill at the age of 13, at the time I saw a great amount of female chauvinism. Even my other used a rather interesting it goes something like this. “Men have a man brain and they f~~~ up when it comes to dealing with kids” That might not be precisely what she said but you get the idea of it, I also saw men many being pained in media as handicapped in some of the shows on children’s TV. In all honestly I did not really care and I don’t care today about what content producers want to make, or the story they want to produce. But this made me look deeper into field of gender, I heard from teachers that women where historically oppressed and where treated unfairly at every turn.

    After than I heard the words equality and equal blasted into my ears over and over again, I also had the 77c to 1 figure blast at me by a girl in class who made a presentation on it. Everyone in the class cheered on without question and more or less just agreed with everything said. Even after watching a great many of these presentations I had the same feeling every time, something about them just did not sound right. They were based on already agreed apron ideas I questioned them and I asked myself is this the truth and nothing but or is something fishy. After a while I got a decent internet connection and saw some videos made by the Amazing Atheist. He put forward perspectives that where against the grain. At this point I was more or less on the blue pill, however my mind expanded greatly and I really started questing a whole lot of things. I saw videos from people like Girl Writes What, John The Other the utter hypocrisy these people point out pushed me to the point of no return. Terms like women and children & don’t hit girls pushed it yet even further. I became angry with the utter f~~~ing hypocrisy and stupidity. I saw this and my mind and ideas changed at the drop of a hat, this is where I questioned feminism and some of the ideas that it puts forward.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8j1MCML5WI

    Not long after that I found thermic light,bar bar,stardusk,razorblade kandy.

    Barbarossa and Stardusk opened my mind and made me seriously question my view of women. These two men brought up some of the elephants in the room about marriage and modern relationships. Like the fact that marriage is non-commensurate, out dated and criminal. Like the concept of alimony which is slavery given a thing of makeup. After some time and after seeing the utter crap that women dish out onto men. I made a choice to take the red pill and go my own way; I chose not to grant women sustained and great power over my life I threw the idea of marriage out.

    I learned that quite frankly women cannot be trusted in our society and there is no such thing as a NAWALT, in a society that pushes women to f~~~ men over. I could not wake up and tell myself after taking that pill that becoming a woman’s bitch is a good idea. I still cannot tell myself it is a good idea and I think that will never change. So I changed targets, I’ve made my time since taking the red pill about understanding advancing technology. I hope one day to make something of true value and meaning like a secure and anonymous communications or a cheap energy source. That is my goal and my way, it’s a road that I have decided is more important than chasing tail.

    Hope you enjoyed this poorly written story.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #41767
    Axiomaticus
    Axiomaticus
    Participant

    Wow, what a story. I feel for you and your dad, that’s a s~~~load of responsibility for being so young. That is some pretty f~~~ed up s~~~ your ex pulled, but I doubt anyone here would be surprised by the way she treated you or your son; at-least I wasn’t surprised. But I was surprised you managed to get full custody of your son, outstanding and rare. So I guess there is at-least something fortunate out of the hell-storm that you’ve painted here.
    As far as the banging broads thing goes that is not in conflict with the general MGTOW philosophy/view/whatever you want to call it. There are many different ideas floating around about whether it’s worth the risk (It’s totally not worth it to me, but to each his own). The one primary point virtually everyone agrees on is that one can not be married and be a MGHOW/MGTOW. Bang away, but be aware of the risks; there are many content producers who talk about how to minimize your risk and all that (Might want to check out that Tom Leykis Tabasco-condom maneuver lol). If you are brand-new to MGTOW I strongly recommend the following three MGTOW youtube channels: Barbarossa, Spetsnaz, and Stardusk (his newer content is The Thinking Ape). There are a ton of other great channels of comparable value, and some newer channels that are very promising. If you want a more comprehensive list you can always see my subscription list on my Youtube channel under the same name; Axiomaticus.
    And finally – Welcome Gzus.

    #41123

    In reply to: I gotta rant.

    Sam Raven
    Sam Raven
    Participant

    Tragic and depressing to hear. That sort of job is definitely not just something you can walk into with qualifications and experience alone.

    As Barbarossa said, it is a war, and what he says about not just feminism but the whole dynamic of women who do it when they infiltrate men’s clubs that is the real damage, I have to admit he is right.

    Sam Raven
    Sam Raven
    Participant

    Epic critique on the mass social programming.

    ‘Did you watch the game?’

    “NO I F~~~ING DIDN’T ASSHOLE!”

    I swear what he says about men talking about kids, wife, football (here its English soccer like English Premier League, UEFA, and s~~~ I don’t care about) and working overtime to do all of the above TOTALLY resonated with me. Its a f~~~ing epidemic here in Singapore as well!

    I talk to people on Skype from other parts of the world and the EXACT same thing is going on. If it is a worldwide epidemic with the exact same issues regardless of nation or culture, we got a real mass social engineering program out here coming from televised sports, folks. Its a distraction from real issues that concern us all for example the survival of the human species, or for example the eugenics program that was behind feminism.

    The message I got from this? F~~~ society’s opinion. Opinion from others is hot air from their asses anyways. All are born original, most die a copy.

    Don’t die a copy. F~~~ ’em if they can’t handle the odor of ‘freedom’ from you.

    Apologies if this was posted earlier, I just realized this was an old video, but this is Hard Truth.

    Frank. Dont waste your time. I really am leaving for 6 months in hope that when I come back, there will be more REAL mgtows here.

    Go listen to Stardusk on Youtube. I guess he doesnt make vids anymore, but if you want to hear what real philosophical mgtows sound like, there a compilation of Stardusk 5 hours long. I was able to get through 4 hours last night and will have to listen a few more times. He covers sociological/biological factors and understands what he is talking about.

    Its apparent to me that John Doe really is some sort of drug addict or major loser. Anyone who posts 6 pages of bulls~~~ at 830 in the morning has been up all night.

    Anyway, MGTOW.com is the s~~~ and its bound to get popular. Eventually, with time, real mgtow with fill these threads. In the mean time, Im going to hear out many of our mgtow forefathers online. After I exhaust Stardusk stuff for a month or two, Im going to explore BarBarossa.

    It beats the hell out of being here, at least for now. I cant believe the retarded bulls~~~ here, Creationism, Christians, hatred of proven fact, people pretty much acting retarded. Fake ass mgtow teenie boppers who’ve been brainwashed by sunday school teachers. Who cant even understand themselves, let alone the state of gender sociology.

    John, I simply can’t read your book long essays on here, much less reply in a way that you’d understand. You’re like a one man crusade against the obvious.

    I started to read, but it was just more bulls~~~. I think I truly am done with you.

    If you had any common sense, you’d see that you’ve lost big time when the people who either agree with you or disagree, lose the desire to even hear you out. It doesn’t help when you waste countless hours and after thousands of words, still arrive at zero logic.

    Let me ask you John Doe, how long have you been identifying as MGTOW? What is your true age? Do you even know the history of the modern MGTOW collective online? Have you ever heard of Nacho? Do you know or have listened to any of Barbarossa, Sandman, JohntheOther, STARDUSK and many others I’m still slowly taking in?

    I’ve been listening to MGTOW channels and content for a year and have barely touched the stuff. If you’d had even 1% of exposure to real MGTOWs you’d wouldn’t be on here writing THE F~~~ING STUPIDEST S~~~ INT HE WORLD.

    My criticisms of you, you should remember, where I routinely tell you, “YOU DONT KNOW S~~~ BECAUSE YOU HAVEN’T READ S~~~” still stand. Once again, get the f~~~ off MGTOW you f~~~ing poser blue pill christian bitch! You cant think your way out of a wet paper bag and honestly kid, you live with you parents! Youve admitted this! Your eligibility for MGTOW status is a laughing stock!

    F~~~ off, read/listen to mgtow content, move out of your moms house, and grow up. You can’t tell me to grow up you little s~~~. I f~~~ing have a full time job, I actually pay a mortgage and live alone, I dont rely on family, I’ve actually been f~~~ed over by many women. Youre just a christian kid living with your mom!  Nothing you say has any value so stop tweaking out with your keyboard here. You are a f~~~ing drama queen with zero intelligence

    Kahn
    Kahn
    Participant

    Thank God someone brought this up, If you didn’t I was going to because its been p~~~ing me off so much lately.

    The argument that a woman’s behavior is “ok” because it’s in her “nature” is complete bulls~~~.

    This is like a feminist saying that its “ok” if men go raping women because male monkeys rape all the time; therefore its in the male’s “nature” to rape and is justified. No one in their right mind would f~~~ing say that, but this is basically what they’re saying when they give women a free pass for the damage of unrestrained hypergamy, outdated mating games/selection, and etc.

    F~~~ THAT S~~~. If you do something to hurt someone, and you know its going to hurt them, I GIVE NO F~~~S ABOUT YOUR NATURE, IT’S WRONG TO KNOWINGLY HURT SOMEBODY BECAUSE YOUR BASE BIOLOGY (or “feelings”) “SAID”  SO.

    Human society has only come to exist because we told nature to go f~~~ itself, and instead went and built civilization. Women got shielded from a lot of the hardship that was involved in that, and that is starting to show now, BUT THAT DOES NOT EXCUSE THEIR BEHAVIOR. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

    Now, many of the theories that try to explain female behavior are OK. I don’t want to give them too much credit because at the end of the day we can’t go back to 10,000 BC and do case studies on our ancestors. But they are better than nothing, and for the most part make sense.

    But this bulls~~~ idea that justifies women’s behavior comes mainly from the PUAs. They LOVE to tell guys: “it’s not her fault, you’re just not alpha enough!”

    Never mind the fact that in the “herd” the animals these theories are derived from, the alpha is in a way MORE disposable than the betas, because the moment the alpha is too weak, or is simply overpowered by a competitor, the females will be mating with the new “alpha” before the old one’s corpse is even cold. Being “alpha” is sure a sweet deal huh?

    Anyway, This has been spreading a lot among the youtube MGTOW, and I hope Barbarossa or somebody shuts this s~~~ down before it becomes to widespread. It’s utter crap. Women should be held accountable for their actions as a FULL ADULT would be, without bulls~~~ excuses to save them.

    I guess I should also say that there is a difference between female nature and what women consciously decide to do, and women as a whole have consciously decided to do some pretty bad things (which many have theorized is due to female “herd-think” or “hive-mind,” which  does go back to their nature). All that said, I’m not sure which is worse; consciously deciding to hurt someone, or not having the self-control to not hurt that person.

    Nature or not, women do not seem to give a s~~~ about men, and we need to be realistic about this rather than make excuses for them.

    #40055
    Antares
    Antares
    Participant

    @Smitty – I think part of why many of us ended up here is that women won’t leave us a lone. So we come here… and yet again they won’t leave us alone. Just want to play video games? – No! The fem collective must approve your game meets their social standards. It goes on and on like that. TV, movies, books even the NFL. The f~~~ing NFL! (I think they planted a seed there that will bite them in the ass). Each time men retreat to get away, women follow and are intent to f~~~ it up.

    Some women know to leave well enough alone, but I think we can all name women who are angry, hate everything, and insist everyone be miserable like them. They were the little girls who saw a boy building a sandcastle then go step on it because he was doing something and enjoying himself. They are vindictive people who have a hole in their soul, driven to destroy everything. The reasons probably vary. They’re on a power trip and want to “triumph” over perceived injustice. Or they’re sadists, etc. While gynocentrism is our bigger problem, the bitches at the core of feminism will never rest. But I think Barbarossa made a good point that we should be grateful to the toxicity of feminism waking us up and getting us away from them AND the plantation. The more they mess with us, the more they prove us right and the more men they drive to MGTOW.

    Price is what you pay, value is what you get. -- Ben Graham

    #40052

    In reply to: MGTOW saves lives

    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    It’s not flattery but fact that a ton is owed to Keymaster for his work of keeping this site up.

    Thanks very much. You can hear more from me – on the site and how we came to be here – in this casual audio interview here:

    On Sunday, we/I was approached by a couple of MGHOW online (Shining Light and MGHOW Messenger) to do a hangout we arranged a week in advance, It’s very casual and not an official video or anything. They had audio problems so there are gaps of silence, but my audio is working fine although my voice is strained.

    Genereal Topics covererd in no order:

    MGTOW.COM AND HOW WE CAME TO BE HERE • MGTOW.COM FORUMS • SANDMAN • “SANDMAN IS DOWN” VIDEO • BARBAROSSA • MGTOW.COMS IMPACT ON THE MANOSPHERE • OBSERVATIONS • MGTOW SAVES LIVES • ENGAGEMENT RINGS • FATHERS • QUESTIONS & ANSWERS • CASUAL CHAT and more.

    So if you’re interested have a listen, it ended up going on for hours.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #38126
    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant

    You could say my journey into becoming a MGHOW started in my pre teen/teen years.

    I saw a lot of my friends parents getting divorced and i thought to myself “i will only get married one time”

    I saw something like this on a nature tv show  and i thought to myself “no way am i going to struggle over the affections of a woman and if she likes me for me FINE ,if not she can go f~~~ herself”

    Another thing i thought long before i started dating is ” if i were a millionaire or billionaire no way would i want any woman i was dating to know im rich because there is almost no way to know if she loves me because of the money ”

    Flash forward to the present and i have been married and divorced more than a decade ago.

    She was abusive and narcissistic and i had a severe case of oneitis . I may never be the same.

    I dated a few more women afterwards and noticed some of them were no better if not worse.I looked around and found this.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/begood4000

    and later this

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/

    I started reading and listening and learning  and i found this

    https://www.youtube.com/user/barbarossaaaa

    and this

    https://www.youtube.com/user/Stardusk/featured

    and this

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrSJF7GT6MOm6PxYmv0H3_g

    As a very young man i saw some  (very little imo) of the writing on the wall many years ago.

    I learned a bit in recent years.

    But i think the only solution in coming generations will be young men saying “I have seen enough and had enough Im Going My Own Way “

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

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