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  • He attacked the s~~~tiest “members” of MGTOW instead of fully someone like Barbarossa or Thinking-Ape. That’s how low he’s gotten. He’ll just end up shilling everything he touches on. That was the point of this video, regardless of what he thinks of MGTOW.

    That’s the problem with these anti-SJW YouTubers. They don’t take action. They’re just lazy.

    Being an attention whore knows no specific gender.

    He attacked the s~~~tiest “members” of MGTOW instead of fully someone like Barbarossa or Thinking-Ape. That’s how low he’s gotten. He’ll just end up shilling everything he touches on. That was the point of this video, regardless of what he thinks of MGTOW.

    That’s the problem with these anti-SJW YouTubers. They don’t take action. They’re just lazy.

    #198817
    Zuberi Tau
    Zuberi Tau
    Participant

    Barbarossa is doing his own thing and he’s trying to publish a book last I heard.

    #198622
    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant

    I would love to see some of those guys commentating here.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #198196
    Experienced
    experienced
    Participant

    IMO anything from Barbarossaa is credible.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #197879

    In reply to: UPGRADES

    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    In a few months i may make a donation but not a monthly payment.

    We have always flatly refused and won’t accept “donations”.
    That very concept makes us sick. Here’s why.

    People who ask for “donations” (and calling them that) means they don’t REALLY believe the service they are providing has any real value that anyone would want to purchase and pay for. And they would be correct.

    • HEFORSHE collected millions in “donations” and expects MEN to “donate” to women.
    • The hashtag #GIVEYOURMONEYTOWOMEN doesn’t provide anything and just expects men to give their money to women. Yes really.
    • Anita Sarkeesian asks for “donations” and is carted around in tax-payer funded chariots
    • Disgraceful male feminist David Putrelle wants “donations”
    • A Voice For Men accepts “donations”.

    All f~~~ing useless parasites… and when someone asked Paula Shelam what she did with the “donations”, you know what he said? “None of your f~~~ing business”. What kind of person responds to their supporters like that? That’s outrageous. But if he provided a service of any actual VALUE they would never even need to ask the question.

    When someone is paying for a valuable product or service – even if it’s just entertainment value! – they KNOW what they are paying for.

    When you pay to see a movie, you’re not making a “donation”. But the reason these people call them “donations” is because they don’t actually do, provide or create anything! They suck and syphon like parasites.

    Now check this out. Look at what MGTOW accomplished without any “donations” or funding of any kind:

    That’s how useless millions of dollars given to women & feminists are.
    And that’s why we don’t accept “donations”.

    We’re actually doing the “donating” by providing the service and/or product upfront. Just the name “MGTOW.COM” was f~~~ing expensive. No need to mention the rest of it. When Barbarossa appealed to his MGTOW audience in 2012 and asked someone out there to create a backup and archive of relevant MGTOW content, we wanted to do it. But rather than starting a bulls~~~ Sarkeesian parasitic kick-starter campaign for handouts first…. we took it upon ourselves and actually built it.

    A young feminist known in the Sphere as “Alexandra Blue” – who created that disgraceful anti-male rant called “Dear Men” on Youtube – began lecturing and scolded half the human race… then turned around weeks later and said she’s “not a feminist anymore” and wanted money “donated” to make a documentary video on MGTOW so she could f~~~ing travel – and that’s before she created a goddam thing.

    It’s preposterous.

    This is the MayorOfMGTOWn’s Outreach Project.

    He approaches homeless men, teaches them and provides them with basic tools and things to provide a service of value on the most basic level. When you provide someone with a service of real value, they will be happy to pay for it – and you never have to call it a “donation”.

    You have to be able to say “this is exactly what we provide and what you are paying for” and then they will either pay for it – or they will not. So if nobody is willing to pay for it, then nobody is willing to pay for it. We will discover and learn this over time.

    Maybe you just don’t WANT to a buy a subscription.
    Maybe you don’t want a MGTOW.email. No problem!

    … but we are making the service available for members who DO.

    We already have plans for other things you may want to buy as well.
    Time will certainly tell!

    Eventually – one day in the near future – we can make MGTOW.COM our full-time jobs, give it our full-time attention, and then it’s …. look out below.

    I kinda get a kick out of how out of sync the ads can be with the website’s philosophy.

    We don’t choose the ads. Google does. And the advertisers bid for a spot on the site. So on a page that talks about “marriage” there may be an ad for bridal stuff. One a page that talks about “dating” or “women” there may be an ad for dating Asian women.

    Ads are more visible to visitors and not logged-in members.
    A non-member may arrive on the site and be totally interested in that.

    Conversely, we have also seen ads for Porsche automobiles here. That’s extremely cool.

    The only thing we control is what NOT to display. Like JEWELRY.
    That’s a category of ad we reject and refuse to display anywhere on the site.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #197232

    Topic: UPGRADES

    in forum MGTOW Central
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Gentlemen. Good morning. Very pleased to finally make the formal announcement, and after many weeks of development the day is finally here. You can see we practically re-wrote the site in recent weeks and we’ve added a boatload of long anticipated features which we have advance-previewed to most of you already.

    Recent major upgrades:

    Membership Tiers

    We now have 3 membership levels. All 3 are currently active.

    1. Guest Basic member + Forums Participant
    2. Ghost (+ extras & exclusives)
    3. Galt ( + everything we offer, including an ad-free experience + pro stuff)

    We preview-tested the “Ghost” level to separate the brand new members, mostly because of belligerent hotheads and women signing up. I alone have deleted 12 females since 01.01. We created an “approval buffer” so every new join could not just start littering the forums…. and then making off like vandals wasting everyone’s time and attention. Moderating it took too many dozens and hundreds of hours away from production, so we decided to do something about it. They don’t get to do that anymore.

    Our first 11,000 members have already been upgraded “Ghost” – by us. Free forever. We were going to begin with the first 10,000 only …. but so many recent new members have been terrific with their forums contributions and our delays required we bumped that number up. Everyone else up till now #13330 who has requested forums participation posting privileges has been granted them. As more members join, the numbers will increase.

    However, episodes like this one today are now a thing of the past. We don’t have the ability, time or resources to allow these assholes in here anymore.

    If someone like that wants to participate, they will have to PAY.
    And when they have to pay and are forced be genuinely invested, they will stop doing that s~~~.

    If they still continue…. we will still boot them, but they didn’t get off for free.

    So there is now a “queue” for forums participation for the time being. The forums are extremely busy and every minute spent moderating is time away from growing the site and production. A truly invested individual can now “approve themselves” for the forums by choosing an upgrade plan.



    They can either wait for us to grant posting privileges when we have the bandwidth and time, or pay $5 minimum for one month, upgrade themselves to “ghost”, and make themselves a participant on the spot under the same house guidelines. Even though it’s pennies per day, it’s something that shows they are GENUINE and REALLY interested in being here.

    Those are the only kinds of members we want. Those that care.

    This also places a “value” on everything we provide to everyone else and makes everyone understand that what we’re doing here is not free for us and represents an ENORMOUS cost and expense that we have absorbed since inception. Nothing will change but by adding a monthly “price” reminder, members will know that live chat, favorites system, private messaging, forums moderation, and keeping this site for MEN ONLY is all WORK.

    —-

    For the longest time MANY of you – SO MANY of you – have been so generous with offering donations and support for our efforts, and we have refused to have the conversation. The outpouring of well-meaning and generosity has been overwhelming and we thank every last one of you most sincerely. We simply won’t accept “donations” because we don’t have to and it’s staunchly against our principal. We would rather provide actual, tangible products and services that you can really use and enjoy….. and several members have retained our services for outside projects.

    This ain’t no Anita Sarkeesian lazy parasite outfit — where she holds her hands out for $165K to make 3 youtube videos in a year. That’s bulls~~~.

    We also heard all of you who said “we WANT to contribute – please make it possible”. So we did.

    Since everyone can enjoy the site, anyone who wants to can “upgrade” to Ghost can – even if they are a “Ghost” member and a participant already. You can upgrade for $5 for a month… two months… a year… whatever you want. And you can cancel at any time without reducing your level. This will keep existing members and any contributions you make FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE and it’s 100% VOLUNTARY – and it suits everyone at every price point.

    We’re giving the products and services upfront, and leaving it to the members to decide if it’s worth something to them. Members will now decide what we will put more energy into. If the demand is there, we’ll create it.

    Examples:

    • Unlimited Private Messaging which you can initiate (basic members can only read & reply up to 5X)
    • Unlimited archive Favorites (now in the archives) /favorites
    • File / Image uploads and archiving (available on Ghost profiles soon to support videos and audios too!)
    • Unlimited Forums access
    • Live chat forum /chat
    • MAKE YOUR PROFILE PRIVATE (a hugely requested one!)
    • Free HD Screensaver downloads (when available)

    …. you can see the breakdown on /upgrade .

    As a big plus, for paying Ghost members, we’re even offering a mgtow.email address for everyone – which is service we created in partnership with a big international domain registry. More info on that is on the upgrade page. That was hugely requested and now it’s a very exciting reality! Monthly members can keep the address for as long as they are monthly subscribers. So you can be YOU AT MGTOW DOT EMAIL and separate your personal email altogether.

    Use it across the Manosphere and we hope it will connect the community more than ever. Nobody needs to worry about “doxxing” … EXAMPLE: if Sandman or Barbarossa wants to be contacted by anyone, they can be Sandman @ mgtow . email and anyone can reach them without them giving out personal info. Service provided by MGTOW.COM but kept completely separate from the site.

    We think this is really epic.

    .. and you’ll even get a receipt emailed to you like this:


    —-

    I think that about covers it for now. Since this kicked in only about an hour ago, some features will need to be “hooked into it” so (for example) if you’re a Ghost member, the “live chat” button will be “ON” for you. That sort of detail will be tweaked over the weekend. Likewise , basic members will lose the “heavier” features that can slow the site down – like the “members online now” feature which will be reserved for Ghost members. etc.

    We trust everyone will find this fan-f~~~ing-tastic, and may it grow MGTOW.COM into the site we imagined it would be. To the future, infinity and beyond.

    Thank you very much, and a spectacular weekend to you.
    MGTOW | Development Team.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #196900
    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant

    Thankyou KM for keeping these kind of dumbf~~~s in check here.

    Some people need to spend a few hours listening to Barbarossa, StarDusk,Spetznaz etc.
    Develop some intellectual acumen before attempting to converse with us.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #192275
    Biggvs_Dickvs
    Biggvs_Dickvs
    Participant

    She pushed a button. She produced nothing. She pushed a button. Like a 4 year old wants to “push the button” in an elevator so that it can feel important. I just can’t ignore the entirely-f~~~ed concept of thousands of men taking thousands of days to build an aircraft carrier, and on the very last day before her first maiden voyage, they invite a woman to crack a champagne bottle across the bow…. as if it’s gonna sink otherwise.

    Men invent the fusion reactors, build massive ships, and a woman gets to “push the button”.
    That’s the extent of her significance. Still.

    Barbarossa was right. A woman actually “feels special” and important when she does it, but thousands of men will still step aside and permit women to “push the button” because they feel sorry for her.

    That was probably a condition to her (or her party) pushing through their funding – you have to give us the big phto op when you turn it on.

    Fair enough, if they were responsible for getting the money to make it happen.

    That said, point is well taken about the champagne bottle and elevator button. I’ve seen that kind of thing before and thought it was just some cute thing women did, but now I realize what an incredible insult it is to all the hard working men who made things like this possible.

    "Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

    #192209
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    I just had to comment after reading the first paragraph…

    “….when German Chancellor Angela Merkel pushed a button to produce …..”

    She pushed a button. She produced nothing. She pushed a button. Like a 4 year old wants to “push the button” in an elevator so that it can feel important. I just can’t ignore the entirely-f~~~ed concept of thousands of men taking thousands of days to build an aircraft carrier, and on the very last day before her first maiden voyage, they invite a woman to crack a champagne bottle across the bow…. as if it’s gonna sink otherwise.

    Men invent the fusion reactors, build massive ships, and a woman gets to “push the button”.
    That’s the extent of her significance. Still.

    Barbarossa was right. A woman actually “feels special” and important when she does it, but thousands of men will still step aside and permit women to “push the button” because they feel sorry for her.

    Aw. Isn’t that cute. Yeah you didn’t have anything to do with the creation, invention, or building of this thing, but OK, you can push the button and feel important if you want.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #190867

    In reply to: Dude against MGTOW.

    Zuberi Tau
    Zuberi Tau
    Participant

    Barbar isn’t black btw. I can’t remember right now where he came from.

    Barbarossa is a black Dominican from New York.

    Franky
    Franky
    Participant

    Hey hang around the dog long enough
    and you’ll end up catching fleas.

    Imagine Reggie waking up and becoming the next BarbarossaXD

    #189529

    In reply to: Time to Change

    LeoYourKing
    LeoYourKing
    Participant

    Welcome Brother, now you are awake. Keep in this path.
    Start going to the gym and also start reading, better yourself in all aspects of your life. Do not let someone else to take away your happiness and your health.
    Listen or look for The Tom Leykis show,Messenger Rising, Bar Bar (Barbarossa) and Sandman.
    “Never be ashamed of a scar. It simply means you were stronger than whatever tried to hurt you.” -unknown

    #185390

    Anonymous

    I believe the concept of cloning is an amazing feat in human creativity, but state controlled conception obviously has a lot of problems with it.
    As with men becoming redundant, that is ludicrous, this world is built and maintained by men, if any gender were to become redundant with cloning or ecto-genesis it would be women, note im not advocating for “gender-cide” or any of the feminist nonsense.
    I fully agree with barbarossa, and im paraphrasing here. “any technology that allows us greater control over our base biological drives is a good thing”.
    I’m sick of all these fear mongers(not accusing anyone here) that keep screeching about banning the innervation of some of the most exciting and fundamentally game changing(in a good way) technologies, such artificial wombs, because of some women somewhere thinks it’ll reduce her value in the eyes of men or that somehow these technologies will harm the wimminz and chilluns.

    #179184
    Schemescape
    Schemescape
    Participant

    @jackinov – Funny you say that, some of you are so defensive that it seems more like a PUA forum than a MGTOW forum. It’s like some posters in here feel as if I’m shaming them/questioning their manhood when I’m not. Oh well I’ll adjust my expectations accordingly, can’t expect every MGTOW to be a carbon copy of Barbarossa/Stardusk/TFM etc.

    #173907
    Cheetah84
    Cheetah84
    Participant

    After my split with my ex…I had a short fling with a CRAZY girl…She was the “I need a pet for constant validation chick”

    I broke up with her, felt like a f~~~ing champ because I felt I had more control..
    I started online dating, saw the HORRENDOUS double standards, got kicked off for “abuse”…I would call it honesty

    I then visited brothels and met many international women, but in the end, all the SAME
    Started watching youtube about female nature –> karen straughn –> sandman –> barbarossa

    Realized that its a NO WIN situation for men these days so I checked out of the blue pill world

    Now a member this year of this site. Enjoying the banter and support!

    I must say Sandmans videos were entertaining and also kind of sleeping pill haha! I often found myself falling asleep before it finished.
    He is not everyone’s taste, but he made ALOT of videos and covered MANY topics. I guess I got addicted to the variety.

    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    The feedback about what you like (and don’t like) about others is really helpful!

    I do thank them though for banning you because that motivated you to create your own MGTOW website.

    It’s been in conceptual development since 2010, when we wanted to create an exclusively men’s interest (or Manosphere) site. Like “ask men dot com”…. but it’s a little too much like a “magazine”. We actually operated under another domain and opened for just one day. But then shut it down because we didn’t like the name , and so we waited to get the right name for it (mgtow.com) before we busted ass to make it successful. We wanted a real …. whats the word…… “niche” – for men only.

    The inspiration to start it came from Barbarossa’s youtube request (+/-2012) to create a permanent archive for MGTOW related content that would protect it from vanishing. That’s when we got serious and started archiving in 2012 – after also reaching out to several very prominent MGTOW online to feel out the enthusiasm. Only one replied and said “Go for it! “. So it really was a “if you build it, they will come” kind of thing.

    The Forums were an afterthought by VERY popular request, and the closing of the biggest one was the deciding factor. Getting “banned” from there twice was a motivator but only to an extent. Our intent was not to compete, and since they closed, that was a non-issue anyway.

    At first, we DID get a lot of “there’s a new MGTOW.COM?? WTF???” from other veterans, but very quickly everyone could tell we were not AVFM in disquise. For 8 months at least, it was “Are you P.E.??” and “Are you Sandman??”. That was funny and strange. They didn’t even ask “who are you?”. So we went around to a few to say NO. We are NOT Paula ShElam. They didn’t believe us for months. Like we had some kind of slippery/under-handed motivation. There were MANY suspicions at first, which was a little bizarre and it took a while to understand where they were coming from.

    Originally we had set out to start the forums to keep users engaged while we continue to build the site around it, but the whopping success of the forums in the name of MGTOW just slowed that down. We also REALLY didn’t want “mgtow,com” to fall into the wrong hands. That would have been a disaster. So it worked out very well.

    I have seen arguments on here too, but it still seems to take place in the context of a general cohesiveness and overall respect.

    A basic – basic – level of respect for other members is one of the requirements.
    They endure enough battery out in the world already.

    Insult the point and tear it apart to shreds, but don’t insult the member (as a minimal guideline).

    When I’m allowed to say what I want, I’m the nicest guy ever. When you restrict my speech, I tend to be a total asshole.

    I’m nodding.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #173039
    El Cid
    El Cid
    Participant

    I may be what you call a blue-pill man. You can call me whatever you want, but I’ve seen the red pill and I don’t believe the hype.

    First let me tell you about my situation, so you can see where my perspective is coming from. I’m a 38-year-old single man (never married), and rent a house with a roommate and her three girls. She fits the whole stereotype of the entitled, carousel-riding woman; each girl has a different father, and I’ve seen her chew up and spit out boyfriends en masse. And she and I are pretty good friends. At the point you might legitimately wonder if I’m gay, but no. Just socially awkward and not good with women — in retrospect, this is probably just as well.

    I just finished listening to a video called On Bachelors and Fathers by Barbarossa. I don’t mean to pick on him or his video; this is just something I see as part of a larger trend with MGTOW content. It looks to me like grains of truth are being taken and blown way out of proportion.

    If you haven’t seen the video, it talks about a man who works long hours and gets little time with his child. When he actually is home, his wife uses passive-aggression to undermine his relationship with his son. This is an utterly soul-destroying commentary. But it is also literally nothing like my childhood or that of anyone I knew growing up. It is also nothing like most of my neighbours. My dad enjoyed walks in the park with me, and taught me how to use his camera and develop photos in his black-and-white darkroom. At my friends’ houses, I usually saw one parent just as much as the other (except for one of my friends who’s dad was a truck driver and always gone).

    Today, when my roommate’s girls go across the street to play, I see the other kids with their dad just as often as their mom, either going out for a ride or playing with the sprinkler in the front yard. I even occasionally see emphasis on the importance of fathers in mainstream media. Just recently, I heard about a father-daughter dance on the radio, and one of the radio hosts gush about how happy she was to see a young woman spend more time with her father and how valueable that was.

    I can go to work and hear the guys talk about what they did with their kids. During a period in my life when I was a regular churchgoer, I remember whole families doing things together. Now I grant that mothers are a clear majority at public parks, but by no means are men absent. I still see a significant number of fathers and children there.

    Canadian law on parental leave is gender-neutral, and I know two guys at work (a machine shop, not many women) who took a couple weeks off when they had new babies being born. Both times we took a collection around the shop floor and came up with a few hundred dollars — enough to take the edge off the absence from work.

    I believe Barbarossa. when he gives this account of a marginalized, alienated father. I see how bad it is and I know the problem exists. But I don’t believe that fathers are being kept away from their kids en masse. This looks to me like a gross exaggeration, and I’m just not buying it.

    #171781

    In reply to: Aaron Cleary

    JollyMisanthrope
    JollyMisanthrope
    Participant

    He also doxed Barbarossa if memory serves.

    The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
    #168115
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Take a look at /channels/

    Some of the singles in them are excellent… and some of them are s~~~. Our archived singles are individually selected for one reason or another. You may not want to think of “the author” as a way of deciding what’s most relevant, but rather … let the content decide that.

    My personal fundamentals are old Barbarossa and Stardusk where they don’t even MENTION “MGTOW” as a term. Then I found Paul Proteus(??) and really enjoyed the early one where he is shaving and speaking to you like he’s talking to his son. Sandman will slap a “MGTOW” label on EVERYTHING. He has done videos on women’s shoes and put “MGTOW” on it.

    I enjoy Thorium —although a little too much “muslim” lately with all that’s been in the news.
    And I find myself watching No Holds Barred a lot.
    Razor Blade Kandy is quite funny while making the point.
    Messenger doesn’t f~~~ around – at all. He’s hardcore.
    … to name a few. I like them all for different reasons.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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