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[EnlightenedMGTOWParticipant 291]

Would be interested in seeing how KM & Co. utilize donated funds in the same way mgtowhq broke down all of their costs to run and upgrade their site/content.

Marriage is the disease, divorce is the cure. MGTOW is the vaccine.

[RennieParticipant]

Thank you for the privilege of the ghost tier. What features does the Galt tier have and how much is it monthly?. Sorry if I missed that information in the sea of long posts. I also would’ve asked in email, but you’re often too busy to respond there.

Never mind. Found the upgrade page.

Will payment system be anonymous, no personal details leaked through the use of credit cards, paypal?. It’s just an OPSEC thing.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

anonymousyam wrote:

In a few months i may make a donation but not a monthly payment.

We have always flatly refused and won’t accept “donations”.
That very concept makes us sick. Here’s why.

People who ask for “donations” (and calling them that) means they don’t REALLY believe the service they are providing has any real value that anyone would want to purchase and pay for. And they would be correct.

• HEFORSHE collected millions in “donations” and expects MEN to “donate” to women.
• The hashtag #GIVEYOURMONEYTOWOMEN doesn’t provide anything and just expects men to give their money to women. Yes really.
• Anita Sarkeesian asks for “donations” and is carted around in tax-payer funded chariots
• Disgraceful male feminist David Putrelle wants “donations”
• A Voice For Men accepts “donations”.

All f~~~ing useless parasites… and when someone asked Paula Shelam what she did with the “donations”, you know what he said? “None of your f~~~ing business”. What kind of person responds to their supporters like that? That’s outrageous. But if he provided a service of any actual VALUE they would never even need to ask the question.

When someone is paying for a valuable product or service – even if it’s just entertainment value! – they KNOW what they are paying for.

When you pay to see a movie, you’re not making a “donation”. But the reason these people call them “donations” is because they don’t actually do, provide or create anything! They suck and syphon like parasites.

Now check this out. Look at what MGTOW accomplished without any “donations” or funding of any kind:

That’s how useless millions of dollars given to women & feminists are.
And that’s why we don’t accept “donations”.

We’re actually doing the “donating” by providing the service and/or product upfront. Just the name “MGTOW.COM” was f~~~ing expensive. No need to mention the rest of it. When Barbarossa appealed to his MGTOW audience in 2012 and asked someone out there to create a backup and archive of relevant MGTOW content, we wanted to do it. But rather than starting a bulls~~~ Sarkeesian parasitic kick-starter campaign for handouts first…. we took it upon ourselves and actually built it.

A young feminist known in the Sphere as “Alexandra Blue” – who created that disgraceful anti-male rant called “Dear Men” on Youtube – began lecturing and scolded half the human race… then turned around weeks later and said she’s “not a feminist anymore” and wanted money “donated” to make a documentary video on MGTOW so she could f~~~ing travel – and that’s before she created a goddam thing.

It’s preposterous.

This is the MayorOfMGTOWn’s Outreach Project.

He approaches homeless men, teaches them and provides them with basic tools and things to provide a service of value on the most basic level. When you provide someone with a service of real value, they will be happy to pay for it – and you never have to call it a “donation”.

You have to be able to say “this is exactly what we provide and what you are paying for” and then they will either pay for it – or they will not. So if nobody is willing to pay for it, then nobody is willing to pay for it. We will discover and learn this over time.

Maybe you just don’t WANT to a buy a subscription.
Maybe you don’t want a MGTOW.email. No problem!

… but we are making the service available for members who DO.

We already have plans for other things you may want to buy as well.
Time will certainly tell!

Eventually – one day in the near future – we can make MGTOW.COM our full-time jobs, give it our full-time attention, and then it’s …. look out below.

wegl88 wrote:

I kinda get a kick out of how out of sync the ads can be with the website’s philosophy.

We don’t choose the ads. Google does. And the advertisers bid for a spot on the site. So on a page that talks about “marriage” there may be an ad for bridal stuff. One a page that talks about “dating” or “women” there may be an ad for dating Asian women.

Ads are more visible to visitors and not logged-in members.
A non-member may arrive on the site and be totally interested in that.

Conversely, we have also seen ads for Porsche automobiles here. That’s extremely cool.

The only thing we control is what NOT to display. Like JEWELRY.
That’s a category of ad we reject and refuse to display anywhere on the site.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Rennie wrote:

Will payment system be anonymous, no personal details leaked through the use of credit cards, paypal?. It’s just an OPSEC thing.

Great question!

All transactions (and communications) are directly between you and Stripe™. Exceedingly stringent and securely encrypted. None of it is kept here.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RennieParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Rennie wrote:

Will payment system be anonymous, no personal details leaked through the use of credit cards, paypal?. It’s just an OPSEC thing.

Great question!

All transactions (and communications) are directly between you and Stripe™. Exceedingly stringent and securely encrypted. None of it is kept here.

Thank you for answering my question. After work I think I’ll give the galt tier a spin.

Sorry about that long quote block in the previous post, should’ve chopped it down.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Keymaster wrote:

Rennie wrote:
Will payment system be anonymous, no personal details leaked through the use of credit cards, paypal?. It’s just an OPSEC thing.
Great question!

All transactions (and communications) are directly between you and Stripe™. Exceedingly stringent and securely encrypted. None of it is kept here.

@rennie & any other members who may be concerned about this. Yes, the transaction/payment info is just between you & Stripe, the company that’s actually executing the txn.

mgtow isn’t actually charging your card; Stripe does that on mgtow.com’s behalf, then drop the $$$ into mgtow.com’s merchant bank account (minus stripe’s cut of whatever % for processing the txn).

KM & team only see if a payment’s gone through for useraccount XYZ. The merchant (mgtow.com in this case) doesn’t see your cc# or anything. Your credit card, of course, will see that you bought something from MGTOW.

If that’s a concern, if you don’t want people knowing about it, you can cut the “electronic chain” entirely, buy a prepaid credit card with cash, then use that.

I don’t know of any easy ways to generate an anonymous credit card yet, but if anyone else does i’m all ears. Cheers.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Gents who already subscribed, have contacted a few of you to set up your MGTOW emails …. but we want to add a mechanism for you to be able to request a personalized one – so that you can choose it yourself.

i.e “Im a paying Ghost/Galt member and want my MGTOW.email box to be xxxxxx@mgtow.email“.

Will add it as soon as possible to be visible on your profile.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[LupusRexParticipant 50]

Thanks for the response KeyMaster!

Much appreciated. and makes sense.

Keep up the good work!

Content to be a lone Wolf

[Anonymous 11]

I can understand why some guys would want an anonymous payment system. Personally, I don’t give a f~~~ if people know I’m a MGHOW as it’s kind of obvious by how I live my life.

One can always pay cash for one of those debit cards and hide it somewhere as girlfriends and wives are known to snoop.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

I can understand why some guys would want an anonymous payment system. Personally, I don’t give a f~~~ if people know I’m a MGHOW as it’s kind of obvious by how I live my life.

C-PIg. ( A personal email will come from me later . Thank you.)

“MGTOW” is no longer taboo. That’s been shattered to bits and one of the first things we set out to do. Still taking time, but detractors are disappearing right and left. A MGTOW mindset allows a man to walk into a business meeting or quit his job in front of other employees while saying “F~~~ you, I’m a Man Going His Own Way. I’ve QUIT better jobs than this!”.

HA! That’s the position you want to be in.
And it’s one step closer to becoming this kind of man:
http://www.thesimpledollar.com/some-lessons-from-the-homeless-billionaire/

He’s a man going his own way and everybody knows it.

We have real members, using their real faces, and even real names.
You would never see that s~~~ 2 years ago.

As a matter of fact, when guys join using a real (first or last) name, and upload a picture of himself… that’s the first one we will make a participant. He’s got his MGTOW game hat on.

I quote The Homeless Billionaire from the link above:

For him, wealth is about making a lasting impact….“Whatever I own is temporary, since we’re only here for a short period of time. It’s what we do and produce, it’s our actions, that will last forever. That’s real value.”

Exactly what I meant in the posts above.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Symmetric MGTOWParticipant 570]

Thank you keymaster for your generosity and all the hard work and long hours you have invested into making this site and our experience using it better.

Very much appreciated!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I supported the site at the $5 level because no one has ever told me the truth before. I don’t always agree with KM or any of the other posters but:

NO ONE HAS EVER TOLD ME THE TRUTH BEFORE. If I don’t support things I agree with they may not be here anymore. It’s not for me, its for the younger men. If my donation saves one man it is worth it.

EDIT: knowing the truth has set me free. My mental health has greatly improved because of the truth I learned here. long story. I have been more fortunate than some of the stories I read here so if my donation keeps the site free for some others. Ich Dien.

Now back to world of tanks.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Good evening. Newly upgraded Ghost & Galt members can now choose their own “MGTOW.EMAIL” address directly from your profile. This is a MGTOW-branded contact address which we provide as an extended service, and you can freely share or use anywhere while preserving your complete privacy.

Visible to other Ghost/Galt members only.

Just edit your profile and enter your desired address when you’re ready. An administrator will see your request, check availability and set it up for you. You will be notified as soon as it becomes “active” (usually within hours or much less).

Thanks everyone.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

NO ONE HAS EVER TOLD ME THE TRUTH BEFORE.

It’s so clear when someone finally spelled it out to me. Beforehand, i just believed s~~~ at face value. Christ – I believed those lies for such a f~~~ing long time!

Ah well, not anymore. The past is f~~~ed up, but it’s the past; the future’s all mine.

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Now back to world of tanks.

Thought about trying this out – any good? Or is there something that’s more recent/better?

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

How do we know what our rank is?

I really hate to have to leave because I missed the cut off of joining by a few days.

That would suck.

That being said. It is your forum, Keymaster. I will respect your actions.

Still, I am very wary of putting direct personal information on the internet. We have a situation where even paypal and government is not secure in personal information of even their own employees.

MGTOW are not very well liked. And the whole point is to fly under the radar. If you need some money, I am more than happy to send you an anonymous money order by mail. I just do not want to have a financial money trail that can be in theory one day used against me in court.

I hate to be that guy. But, someone has to point this out. Being outed as a MGTOW can at best get you branded as a sexist bigot by those around you. At worst, it could be used as grounds for imprisonment.

MGTOW is around because of the unreasonable situation that is society. We are already in a situation where for us, a false accusation is guilty until proven innocent. Society does not like us because we refuse to play the rigged game that rewards them and screws us. And we work to walk away.

Though, giving out my personal information is just one step I cannot take.

[RennieParticipant]

I have become galt. The shatterer of gynocentric worlds…

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@faust

Faust For Science wrote:

How do we know what our rank is?

Visit your profile… and until just a few minutes ago, you were a “member”, but I just upgraded you to Ghost like all members up to 11,000. Clearly marked with a yellow MGTOW icon.

We also upgraded:
• SpaceMonkey
• Lupus Rex
• Faust for Science

The last thing we want is someone brooding because we upgraded our first 11K members to start. We only implemented yesterday and we were going to start with 10K, but I bumped it to 11K for the time being.

We have to do it like that because we can’t support 13K members uploading all at once. Baby steps.

Faust For Science wrote:

I really hate to have to leave because I missed the cut off of joining by a few days.
That would suck.

You’re not going anywhere!
I have to stop you right there!! With a smile of course.

I want to make you realize that this isn’t about “rank”. If any part of how we explained the upgrades was not clear, I’ll will clarify that.

The “upgrades” are 100% voluntary only because you want to. Everyone who upgrade in the last 36 hours is already a Ghost and long time members. We’re not REQUIRING payment – not even from newbies!!

1. We’re giving new members the opportunity to upgrade themselves for a minimal fee.
Or they can wait until we have the time and bandwidth and they will be approved to participate.

2. To deter women from joining. I just deleted another female “Jasmine” 30 minutes ago.

The only thing you don’t get is your personalized MGTOW-branded email box. That also costs us to provide but we wrapped it in, because there were lots of requests for it. We hope and believe that when more is added you’ll be thrilled to upgrade. Doesn’t have to be today. Or ever!

We only want you to be able to say “yes I am willing to pay something for what I get from MGTOW.COM”. If you’re apprehensive , just wait there’s gonna be more!

Faust For Science wrote:

Still, I am very wary of putting direct personal information on the internet.

We don’t take your personal information, or ask for it! No names. No numbers. No zip code. Just your valid email address. And since some people are hesitant to give out that, we provided a full featured MGTOW-branded email for that too. And it’s 100% disassociated from you.

Killing two birds, you know the deal.

The transactions are not even known to us. The secure connection is between you and Stripe ONLY. Nothing is stored here. No personal information. No zip code. We got it covered.

Welcome to MGTOW Ghost! You can now join the live chat, localized upload photos (from your profile), private message all day long and download a free screensaver when we post them next month. More is on the upgrade page.

Cheers!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GrumpyParticipant]

For me, in the grand scheme of things, pushing a couple bucks (regardless of the exchange rates) to this website, and by extension to our members, is a very small price to voluntarily pay for the benefits I personally received and continue to receive by participating here.
KM and crew, thank you for your insane level of dedication.
To my fellow menbers, thank you for sharing your “voices” here. I hope to “hear” from you for years to come.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[GrumpyParticipant]

Now to figure out ho to “upgrade”
1 too many armoured hatches to the back of the head donchaknow

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Keymaster I think the website should state there is no refunds marked or highlighted so people can see it clearly. You don’t want trolls paying for the first month then trying to dispute the charge.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

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