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[MeisterParticipant]

I wish Ronnie would be running this year.

I don’t really trust Trump either but considering the other options he is a no-brainer.

Monk

[BeeParticipant]

You are seeing the beginning of it right now. Women vote for social programs to help single moms. women will seek the support of government instead of men. Huffington had an article about regulating male masturbation like they do abortion. Mcmansions will become multiple generation or multi family/roommate dwellings. Men won’t have a monopoly on power. 60% of college degrees go to women. Trump if elected could be the last white male president. Certainly the last republican. Debt will explode out of control (it is everywhere). It doesn’t matter that people have less kids, there aren’t going to be jobs and resources for them anyway. The world is going to hell.

[ironheartParticipant]

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Always remember that traditionalism equals slavery for men to women.

Yeah exactly. The problem with this question is that it implies the old traditional roles fulfilled male human freedom. It did the reverse. But if you take the ball and chain thinking out of the equation, then you have to go even farther back to where women were not allowed to vote. It will not be allowed to happen.

There are only three solutions to western societies problems.

1) Put the onus on women to prove they have the right to vote. Take it away otherwise. This would mean women have to change, not just resort to protest to validate their getting equality. It would mean women can earn the right to vote, but only after proving they are not the current crop of femzi wind bags that have no concept of world politics. Since women tend to reject things like world affairs, history, engineering, and macro-economics, etc, then allow women to only vote in Municipal level elections, not State/Province/Federal.

2) Keep women from voting – period. Give them equal rights, but not equal voice.

3) Go to a system where only certain people within a society, say those with a higher education over over the age of 40 are allowed to vote. In theory the wisdom would be more engrained at that level than with the freedoms we take for granted now.

As I have said before, most of the current crop of women don’t know how to be a human being, and need a old school man to show them how. I don’t mean under some repressive yoke or ideology that is man centric, but an old school man who still values things like moderate thought, justice, fairness, invention, accomplishment, and even independence. It means women would have a better appreciation of being a man if they have to walk in those shoes.

The femzi’s will never agree with that, and until the media stops trumpeting the nonsense that is spewed out of the mouths of femzi hags, then nothing society wide will improve for men. Women will still labour under the illusion that they are superior and better, and society will sink deeper into some childish utopian mess. It comes down to individual women having to realize self-analytical thought or to have that epihany necessary to evolve into a mature woman. There is only true way to value men for what they really are, and that is by walking the same line. Men should do the same in reverse, to get a better handle on the broken logic that women cling too.

Sure there are a few things that old society had wrong. I do not miss stupid ideas around smoking, racism, macho whining, or ideals of kids and women being chattel. But those ideas thrive in the third world, and have no place in a modern evolved society.

The fact that a man can be everything a woman see’s as virtuous just bugs the feminists. Most of us can adapt to being better human beings and learn from our mistakes several times in a single day. But women lack that humility that is learned from old school thinking, so the current batch are very likely to change.

I am glad to see some more sensible thoughts and words come from the younger girls these days. But it seems to be a case of extremes. The young ones are either very practical, or completely deluded about male place at the helm of social stability. I soon as I hear one talking about “women can do everything better” then I know I am dealing with an idiot. Sadly the idiots do not want to change their views. Like sheep, their life is dedicated to the herd.

So really we do not need to return to any past, but live the new one where men are still the gatekeepers, and women are simply acknowledged for the total logical failures that they are. Time for women to be be women, and not deluded hens that we have come to hate and reject.

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

[MeisterParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Why is this not in the Political forum on the site? Repeatedly Trump threads end up on in the main forum, even when they don’t have anything to do with being MGTOW. The only conclusion I can reach is being MGTOW means you MUST support Trump, and if you don’t, then you need to turn in your political card.

I ask this question here, because if I even try to go into the topic, about student loans, it doesn’t fit here.

Reality is this: Student loans need to be subject to the same bankruptcy protection as other loans, so that lenders stop making them. This is a forum of economic subsidies to academia and corporations, built on the back of the borrowers, who can’t get out of them. Why are not student loans under the same bankruptcy laws as any other loan? Well, apparently the body public doesn’t want society stuck with loans defaulted on, that are unsecured.

Show me where Trump says that. I didn’t see anything, just some ok ideas that really don’t resolve anything, but will end up greatly reducing the amount of colleges out there. This may be a good idea actually.

If the election boils down to Trump vs Hitlary then you have to vote for Trump.

That’s a no-brainer.

Monk

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

Why is this not in the Political forum on the site? Repeatedly Trump threads end up on in the main forum, even when they don’t have anything to do with being MGTOW. The only conclusion I can reach is being MGTOW means you MUST support Trump, and if you don’t, then you need to turn in your political card.

I ask this question here, because if I even try to go into the topic, about student loans, it doesn’t fit here.

Reality is this: Student loans need to be subject to the same bankruptcy protection as other loans, so that lenders stop making them. This is a forum of economic subsidies to academia and corporations, built on the back of the borrowers, who can’t get out of them. Why are not student loans under the same bankruptcy laws as any other loan? Well, apparently the body public doesn’t want society stuck with loans defaulted on, that are unsecured.

Show me where Trump says that. I didn’t see anything, just some ok ideas that really don’t resolve anything, but will end up greatly reducing the amount of colleges out there. This may be a good idea actually.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[MeisterParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

No matter what one’s opinion of Trump is. The alternative is unfathomable.

^^^ This times 1000!!

We can start criticizing Donnie once he is elected.

Until then the alternative is absolutely unacceptable.

Everyone needs to vote Trump out of sheer self interest.

Monk

[DeepInThoughtParticipant]

LightBringer wrote:

I liked Trump for a long time, then I found out he has a bunch of soros and goldman sachs connections, so basicly ABALT (billionaires). I feel kind of like a chump, thinking this time will be different – like a new girl friend.

He mentions his network of bankers in his books i read years ago. When NYC was in decline and he bought so much real estate a basement prices it was his manners and good business with the bankers that got him through. He mentions also in his book other billionaires at the time who treated their bankers like s~~~ and when their businesses went to s~~~, the bankers they legged over turned away and watched them burn.

This is just good business 101.

[Anonymous]

No matter what one’s opinion of Trump is. The alternative is unfathomable.

When I acquired my first degree, it was just prior to the student loan tinkering. It was very inexpensive, and I could pay for it myself working part time. The second one happened after the government loan bubble had just start rolling. The cost skyrocketed though nothing like it is now.

[MeisterParticipant]

LightBringer wrote:

I liked Trump for a long time, then I found out he has a bunch of soros and goldman sachs connections, so basicly ABALT (billionaires). I feel kind of like a chump, thinking this time will be different – like a new girl friend.

He deserves a shot.
The other choice is Hildabeast or that freaky socialist who looks like a muppet.

Use logic and common sense.
We all have to vote Trump.

Monk

[LightBringerParticipant]

I liked Trump for a long time, then I found out he has a bunch of soros and goldman sachs connections, so basicly ABALT (billionaires). I feel kind of like a chump, thinking this time will be different – like a new girl friend.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant]

I had a one night stand from POF contact me months later and tell me she was pregnant and it was the worst sick feeling I have ever had. The only thing I can compare it to is finding out my ex wife was having an affair with a guy she went to school with.

The POF woman was 43 and I trusted her that she couldn’t get pregnant. Turns out that she was such a nice girl there was a 50/50 chance it was mine as he had also f~~~ed some other guy a couple of days later. So there I am, not fully divorced yet and with another woman trying to trap me into 18 years of baby jail. At this point I pretty much thought my life was over and I would be working until the day I died, all for some s~~~ f~~~ that ment nothing.

Luckily it was the other guys and not mine but I am still p~~~ed off with that bitch for thinking she would just try and get pregnant and not give a f~~~ if the guy wanted to be a dad or not. It was planned alright, she was willing to get pregnant by anyone so she could get out of working and be a stay at home mummy.

Get deactivated guys, it is your ultimate trump card to beat these bitches.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

Here

Trump’s remarkable plan to fix higher education and strangle social justice and feminists on campus

Let’s look at Trump’s plan for higher education as an example. It boils down to three important features:

Get the government out of student loans
Hold colleges partially or fully liable for student outcomes
Transfer the Office for Civil Rights from the Department of Education to the Justice Department

Get the government out of student loans

YES! Lending small sums of money is not a core competency of the government, nor should it be. Banks are experts in loaning money, and have highly sophisticated mechanisms for determining risk, and then loaning in accordance. The government essentially takes no real risk when loaning money to students, and thus has no real incentive to make sure it is making wise loans. Government loans shove all the risks off onto students. This is, or should be, complete bulls~~~. Let the banks take on some of the risk associated with student loans. What’s the first thing a bank is likely to consider when faced with a student requesting a loan: What are the odds you will be able to pay this back?

Students are p~~~ing and moaning they are saddled with exorbitant amounts of student debt upon graduation, but a lot of that has to do with students being retarded enough to spend $100K on a degree in feminist dance therapy. And you didn’t get a job upon graduation? Who saw that coming???

Banks will exert tremendous pressure on students to engage in acquiring skills the market actually wants. This would go a long ways towards solving the HB1 Visa problem, for example. Not enough people skilled in coding? The banks will see the market value of coding and offer preferential loans for that specialty. The market demands will spill down the chain. Colleges will become furious they have tons of applicants for coding programs, but none of the students have graduated with anything approaching the required math and analytical skills. College will go to war with high schools and the clean-up of a seriously f~~~ed up secondary education system will begin.

This is how the market works. How it’s supposed to work. The more the government steps in to take over services the market could offer more efficiently (because the market players are taking a risk the government isn’t taking), the more f~~~ed up, inefficient and moribund those services are going to become.

Let banks offer student loans. Loaning is the core capability of a bank. It’s what they do. Let them work.

Hold colleges partially or fully liable for student loans

Trump calls this ‘having skin in the game’ and he’s dead right here. I wouldn’t hold colleges 100% liable for student loans, but instead come up with some sort of formula that students have to commit a certain percentage of their income to paying down a student loan, based on their incomes after graduation, and the college must make up the rest of a pre-agreed sum. So, for example, if the college agreed to admit the dance therapy major, and a bank agreed to loan the student $50K, before that loan was issued repayment terms would be set: $500/mo after graduation. When the student gets a fulltime job at McDonalds after graduation, and 25% of her salary amounts to $200/mo, the college would be on the hook for $300/mo.

This would have a number of practical effects:

Colleges wouldn’t offer retarded programs to students who needed to borrow money. Elite colleges might, because the value of the school brand is so high, it doesn’t matter what degree you study. Goodbye women’s studies, film theory, social justice, urban anthropology and every other ridiculous liberal arts degree that no one needs or cares about.
Colleges would invest heavily in making sure students didn’t drop out or fail to complete their programs. Drop outs who don’t earn their degrees are not likely to be able to repay their loans. This would benefit students of color and poor students (especially men) of all races in particular.
Colleges would invest heavily in job services for alumni. If an accountant graduates and finds a job that pays reasonably well, but still leaves the college on the hook for a percentage of her loan, the college has an incentive to help that graduate locate a better position. Until colleges have cleared their liability to zero, they have an incentive to provide career services to students even after graduation. This information will assist them in understanding what programs are in demand in the marketplace. It’s a self-reinforcing information loop. And again, poor working white men and students of color stand to benefit the most here.

Move the Office of Civil Rights from the Department of Education to the Justice Department

Boom! The whole due process, Title IX and absurd rape claims are gone. The Justice Department will use its own data to guide programs, and the DOJ has pretty much the only reliable sexual assault data out there. Take the idiot, ideologically driven fanatics from gender issues and toss them to the curb like a bag of trash. Let the justice department handle issues of justice.

Think about it: Trump tables three pieces of legislation. He transfers responsibility for student loans to banks and lets the market sort out the details. The government is now done with this issue. He holds colleges partly responsible for the loans they agree to accept, then lets the colleges begin the process of understanding what to offer students. The government is now done with the issue. He transfers OCR to Justice and lets the DOJ do their job.

This is masterful delegation. This is what leadership looks like. This is what effective decision making looks like. Trump seeks to turn over responsibility to the people most capable of making decisions, while setting in place firm rules for how they will held accountable. The institutions best qualified to make loans are banks. The institutions best qualified to set academic programming are colleges. The institutions best qualified to determine justice issues are the courts. Trump sets a framework that forces them to work together in the best interests of not only the students, but all of society.

I am deeply, profoundly impressed.

Trump just righted 99% of the crazy ass shenanigans plaguing college campuses. Daddy just set limits that his subordinates have every incentive to enforce.

If women’s studies majors actually understood how markets, incentives and competition worked, they would be freaking out over Trump’s plans for colleges. Fortunately, it appears they have not a clue.

Good.

Let the revolution begin.

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[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant]

Uintatherium wrote:

If women could use artificial sperm then most of them would choose X sperm

You have to understand its not always about the kid,its the provision that comes attached to the kid women want rather child support or the state. Artificial sperm is available now and they still dont use it because it doesnt anchor a man to the deal.

Meister wrote:

A non-vote for Trump supports Hildabeast.

I agree,even if you dont like Trump and his policies(whatever they are) going your own way on this election equals Hitler-y moon walking into the white house by a landslide.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[MeisterParticipant]

It would take them forever to implement this idea.
By that time I am dead.
I don’t care what happens to the universe after I die.

It makes total sense for women to support feminism.
You can’t blame them for acting in their own interest.

I blame the men who support them.

Even some of the stuff I read on this forum.
There are folks who will not vote in the election.
A non-vote for Trump supports Hildabeast.

Once she is the first woman-president we are all supremely f~~~ed!
Why would any man accept such a thing?

Monk

[MeisterParticipant]

There are legit reasons to criticize Trump.
But no matter how you look at it he is always better than the Hildabeast.

If it’s Trump vs Clinton you need to vote Trump just to prevent her.

Monk

[pharmerParticipant]

the road wrote:

The_Young wrote:

“I’mma dress like a slut and go out and become so intoxicated I can’t even talk.”

“And then take yet another drunk frat boy home to my place and suck his dick and ride on top of him, and then claim rape tomorrow.”

It’s always the male’s fault. If she’s drunk it’s the male’s fault, if the male is drunk, it’s the male’s fault.

Sorry reality trumps your attempt at sarcasm. I wouldn’t have believed it till I read it just now. Old news but relevant
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/man-receives-sex-act-while-blacked-out-gets-accused-of-sexual-assault/article/2565978

Never fuck a crazy chick.

[BeerParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I’d like to see how Barry would feel if his girls went to a restroom and witnessed a pervert spanking his monkey in the ladies restroom.

I’m honestly more concerned about a woman going into the men’s room because the line is shorter or whatever, and come running out screaming some guy was spanking his monkey when all he was doing was giving it a jiggle after a p~~~. I just know these laws are going to lead to some poor innocent bastards ending up on the sex offender registry for false charges trumped up by attention whores making false accusations…and just like false rape claims we all know how it will ruin men before the investigation even begins, even when the guy is innocent.

Let’s be honest…in pretty much every public setting a transgender person could walk into whichever bathroom they want, quietly go into a stall and do their thing, and nobody is going to know. I’m really not concerned about these people, I don’t think they’ll be the ones making any issues…if they wanted to sneak into the opposite bathroom and do weird s~~~ they’d be doing it right now anyhow. Only real exception here is in public schools where everyone knows little Johnny was a boy and suddenly in the freshman year of high school he wants to start using the women’s room but everyone knows he’s really a boy even if he wears makeup and dresses…and even in this cases schools generally try to accommodate such students by letting them use a faculty bathroom or whatever.

I’m not saying I think catering to these people is a good idea…I’d rather just have restrooms renamed the penis room and the vagina room so there is no gray area…I’m just saying I think the only issues that will arise from these new laws/rules are going to be “normal” women accusing “normal” men of doing things in the men’s room that are just normal men’s room behavior.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

sidecar wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I consider Trump so horrible, he makes Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, and about everyone else who ran more reasonable as a choice.

Really? And I suppose you think he has a volcano lair where he plots the doom of James Bond. Do you have any specific reason for this ridiculously cartoonish opinion, or do you simply watch way too much daytime television? Of have you drunk WAY too much of the Republicrat / Democan Kool-Aid?

From Christianity, to most subjects, he has show immense ignorance on the campaign trail. The only area you can say he makes a possible case, is in being anti-globalization. The rest is just plain off, and often times not just false, but bordering on not attached to reality. It is likely he did that, because it plays with the base he is going for, but that is it. The opinions by him are ridiculously cartoonish, with really no answers. The are a ham-fisted attempt to pitch paleoconservative nationalism, based more on raging against things, than a positive step forward. To buy into what Trump has, you go through a reality distortion to have it fit.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

There is NOTHING in Trump’s past that indicates he is qualified to be president.

Because being the founder and CEO of multiple multinational corporations means nothing amitire?

Meanwhile being the wife of a president or a “community organizer” (whatever the f~~~ that’s supposed to be) means you’re head of the class for Commander in Chief. Never mind all that, Hillary’s a WOMAN and a MOTHER. That automatically makes her more than qualified. /sarcasm

I’m really doing my best to not call you an idiot right now.

One who has been repeatedly in bankruptcy court because he over-leverages himself, put his name on a fake university that resulted in a bunch of individuals losing money and class-action lawsuits, and has endorsed a ton of products that aren’t around, doesn’t show much. Trump has shown himself to be a decent reality TV star, hasn’t show really that much, in comparison to a lot of individuals who are in his boat.

Do you even know Trump’s track record with business? Can you even name 3 of his failures? If you can’t, then you don’t know Trump, and really don’t care to either, because it is easier to just believe what you want, then what is going on, or had gone on.

Tell me, what makes Trump the “most presidential candidate since Lincoln”? That is what he has said of himself:

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/03/09/donald-trump-says-hes-presidential-candidate-since-abraham-lincoln/

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

NOT IN A FEDERAL ELECTION IT DOESN’T.

Nope. Couldn’t do it. You really are an idiot.

Federal election. Two votes.

Two f~~~ing votes.

In a Federal election for the president of the United States, show the case where a single vote mattered. It doesn’t. It never has. And if it came down to me, then you have a problem. Political parties are supposed to end up doing voter turnout. Such isn’t my job. And if both parties are THAT detached from my interests, why the hell would I bother to go the extra mile?

This is a full list of close elections. See how few are actually with the United States. There is the one you mentioned. Take the number you said and divide it by the total number of elections. That is close to zero as you can get. It is a handful, and not really related to the federal election. If this bothers you THAT much, and you feel that a single vote matters, then go out and actively campaign in the general election, and get others to vote the way you want them to. Here is a reality: I am told that, on the one hand, my vote is THAT important. On the other hand, I am told I am throwing away my vote by voting third-party. The reality is that the third-party candidate gets more than one vote, which is worth more than mine. There are dozens of other ways to end up getting the result you want, besides pushing this trope about one vote is THAT critical, when it almost never is, particularly in this current state where more and more states aren’t battlegrounds.

And the full list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results

sidecar wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

because businesses can fire customers

I don’t even know where to begin with the stupidity of that statement.

On firing customers? There is a basic business principle where you fire customers:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=firing%20customers

You can pivot and throw individuals out who don’t fit your business model and generate sufficient profitability. You don’t have that luxury when you are in government.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[UintatheriumParticipant]

Donald Trump is the best candidate but he won’t solve all our problems.

I wouldn’t call Trump a “false prophet” but I still think that some people have too mach faith in him.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[MenorahmanSpectator]

Trump is bad cause the media owned by the establishment says so mmk.