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- 2016-05-20 at 1:40 PM#241456
Maybe some of those “male” smurfs don’t see any other way. I’m not a fan of Trump but he’s a better bet to me anyway than that witch. I’d rather sit out on voting entirely than help her
“Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” -Proverbs 31:3-
2016-05-20 at 2:22 AM#241344In reply to: Donald Trump, That Scurrilous Rogue!
Thanks for that @roydal.
Most men feel that way but we can’t show it.
Trump is saying what we cannot.
I don’t agree with him all the time but on this I am 100% on his side.2016-05-19 at 10:12 PM#241292I consider Trump so horrible, he makes Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, and about everyone else who ran more reasonable as a choice.
Really? And I suppose you think he has a volcano lair where he plots the doom of James Bond. Do you have any specific reason for this ridiculously cartoonish opinion, or do you simply watch way too much daytime television? Of have you drunk WAY too much of the Republicrat / Democan Kool-Aid?
There is NOTHING in Trump’s past that indicates he is qualified to be president.
Because being the founder and CEO of multiple multinational corporations means nothing amitire?
Meanwhile being the wife of a president or a “community organizer” (whatever the f~~~ that’s supposed to be) means you’re head of the class for Commander in Chief. Never mind all that, Hillary’s a WOMAN and a MOTHER. That automatically makes her more than qualified. /sarcasm
I’m really doing my best to not call you an idiot right now.
NOT IN A FEDERAL ELECTION IT DOESN’T.
Nope. Couldn’t do it. You really are an idiot.
Federal election. Two votes.
Two f~~~ing votes.
2016-05-19 at 9:40 PM#241282So being one of the most successful businessmen on the planet means you have no qualifications to be president? Running the most financially efficient and successful primary campaign in history means nothing? Doing all of this with no corporate bribes and reaching across party lines is not an amazing accomplishment?
You do realize that Trump will be dropping the self-funding for the general election, right? I assume your “corporate bribes” talk is in reference to self-financing. What Trump did playing the reality TV angle, running next to no ground game, and being in the news cycle, no one else could do. He made himself a celebrity, with a bunch of spin, to have people think of himself as being something he isn’t.
Reality: if you hate Trump this much, you are falling into a cult based on ignoring the facts and being angry. By your own logic, no human is fit to be president because human nature is to be self-serving. Trump already has an empire, he certainly doesn’t need to be president. This makes even MORE qualified for the job. If he is the man we see before us, then he wants to serve himself by leaving behind a legacy of being a hero, and that’s fine by me.
Trump: “I am the King of Debt” (that is his words for himself). He has leverage to an extent others don’t, and most of the time it has failed. It is why he keeps going bankrupt. What he is doing here, and did in the business arena, can’t work with the United States. You can’t do that with him. He said he would deal with the federal debt by having creditors take less on the dollar for the debt, if need to. You know who more of the debt than anyone else? It is the U.S government, and the Social Security Trust Fund.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/06/donald-trump-on-us-debt.html
That is his approach, to borrow like crazy, and keep leveraging, and if it goes bad, then you can end up bargaining to reduce it. This is Trump on debt:
“I would borrow, knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal,” Trump said. “And if the economy was good, it was good. So therefore, you can’t lose.”[quote quote=241092]Trump is a self made man who makes over a billion dollars per year – 10 figures. Let that sink in
He’s not in this for the money and he’s antiglobalist who wants to eradicate waste and fire peopleWho is Trump going to fire in government? Is he going to fire Paul Ryan? Maybe he can fire members of Congress. Maybe he can fire the Supreme Court.
And he isn’t in it for the money. People don’t go into politics for the money. They go into it for the ego, and if lucky, MAYBE service. Trump has shown very little in the way of service.
Rest of the clowns – are only capable of lying on fundraisers and scheming
And now Trump is going to join them by starting a Super PAC and taking donations. He also appointed a Wall Street Executive to do his fundraising:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/this-guy-is-the-new-royalty-among-hedge-fund-honchos-162444227.htmlThe choice is clear.
People who try to disqualify Trump by finding flaws in him – are the people who have a habit of finding flaws in everything to elevate their egos. Even if Jesus came back to Earth – those people would surely find a bunch of flaws in him too. (not comparing Trump to Jesus here)
POTUS is a CEO of the US. If Trump is not qualified to be a CEO – I don’t know who is.
Would you hire Hillary or Bernie as CEO of your company? You gotta be out of you goddamn mind if you would
The President of the United States is NOT a CEO. Governments don’t function like corporations, and can’t, due to what is involved. You can’t even run a government like a business, because businesses can fire customers they don’t like, and governments can’t. A government can’t fire its citizens. And that is a major difference. It also can’t just go and default on its loans either.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
2016-05-19 at 8:27 PM#241267Out of anyone that has run for president in a long time, it is my opinion trump is the best qualified to be the ceo of America inc.
So if you agree with that then I would say vote for the right man for the job: Trump.
Now with that said I am a follower of no man and naturally distrust all. Trust is earned and not given. Every election year is always the same, with the exception that this one appears to be causing more contention. If a man doesn’t want to vote that is his right, a right equally fought for by our ancestors as much as the right to vote. They fought for freedom including freedom of expression. If someone chooses to express themselves by not voting then fine by me.. Why would I even care? If they voted there’s a chance they might vote against my guy!
Sure, feel free to express yourself I but haven’t seen anything new or convincing here.Common tactics that just don’t hold water, but continually arise every election year:
Hey you don’t want to vote/don’t want to promote my guy? I’m going to change the topic then and attack you. Convenient how everyone is forgetting what we were originally talking about now isn’t it?
You don’t want to make a choice or be vocal about your choice? Well I’m going to tell you that no choice or say about a candidate is in fact (paradoxically) a vote of confidence for my least favorite candidate. I’m going to do this without offering proof to substantiate my logical gymnastics.
Oh what’s that? You flat out refuse to choose? Well to bad you have to! That’s right I’m ignoring the whole point of free society. Instead I will attempt to take away your choice and tell you that you have no option! You thought you were a MGHOW? How silly! No, cause I will make you go the way I want you to (by doing what women do and shaming you)! I don’t mind manipulation btw.
Don’t like my candidate? Well he is God in my eyes and can do no wrong. This of course makes me no better than the opposition since I bow down to authoritarianism. That’s right I follow authority blindly and so should you!
It’s always the same things or a mix of them. In fact these tactics are employed on both sides of the isle, even among some libertarians.
So vote for who you want or don’t vote for anybody at all. I don’t care. But if you find yourself confused and susceptible to logic tricks being played then listen up and watch out for these. Sure everyone has a right to express but be careful because some of these shaming tactics easily become manipulation.
That’s what women do.
2016-05-19 at 1:05 PM#241092Trump is a self made man who makes over a billion dollars per year – 10 figures. Let that sink in
He’s not in this for the money and he’s antiglobalist who wants to eradicate waste and fire peopleRest of the clowns – are only capable of lying on fundraisers and scheming
The choice is clear.
People who try to disqualify Trump by finding flaws in him – are the people who have a habit of finding flaws in everything to elevate their egos. Even if Jesus came back to Earth – those people would surely find a bunch of flaws in him too. (not comparing Trump to Jesus here)
POTUS is a CEO of the US. If Trump is not qualified to be a CEO – I don’t know who is.
Would you hire Hillary or Bernie as CEO of your company? You gotta be out of you goddamn mind if you would
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
2016-05-19 at 12:45 PM#241083So being one of the most successful businessmen on the planet means you have no qualifications to be president? Running the most financially efficient and successful primary campaign in history means nothing? Doing all of this with no corporate bribes and reaching across party lines is not an amazing accomplishment?
Reality: if you hate Trump this much, you are falling into a cult based on ignoring the facts and being angry. By your own logic, no human is fit to be president because human nature is to be self-serving. Trump already has an empire, he certainly doesn’t need to be president. This makes even MORE qualified for the job. If he is the man we see before us, then he wants to serve himself by leaving behind a legacy of being a hero, and that’s fine by me.
2016-05-19 at 8:52 AM#240964Reality here: My vote is irrelevant and how I vote has a statistically zero chance of impacting anything.
NOT IN A FEDERAL ELECTION IT DOESN’T. In local contests one vote can matter. But you even have cases where individuals lost the popular vote but won the presidential election. That “One vote makes a difference” is bull that political structures use to try to make you feel you MUST vote for someone, and that system is such that any vote but for one of the two parties is all that matters (or you help the enemy). With this, comes the manipulation where no one actually has to do policies that matter to me personally, just the other side is worse. The political discourse keeps sliding down hill, and you get the batch of candidates you had this cycle, as a result. No matter who is president, I have to press on, and the only think I can end up doing is voting for a candidate that best represents where I stand, even if not perfect, among ALL of them, or do everyone a favor and not vote, if none of the above is appealing.
But you can do whatever you like. I personally would rather not waste my time. I may not even be registered to vote where I may need to move to anyhow. But, I guess since my vote is SO important and the difference maker, I will ask those here to bid on it, so I then can get some cash. If my vote matters for the sake of the country, then pay me a bunch of money, and I will vote for whomever you like. If you put $1 or less on my vote, that should show you how unimportant it is.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
2016-05-19 at 8:45 AM#240962Reality here: My vote is irrelevant and how I vote has a statistically zero chance of impacting anything.
Even one vote can make a huge difference. And has.
why would I vote for evil
It’s not a vote for anything. It’s voting against a greater evil. This isn’t a difficult concept.
Put it this way, I consider Trump so horrible, he makes Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz, and about everyone else who ran more reasonable as a choice. In no way, shape and form, would I EVER vote for Trump. So, using the logic of “none of the above”, I MUST vote for Hillary, right?
Anyone who thinks Trump is evil is either believing the mass media or jealous. He is the alpha of alphas, the king of kings. Granted, there’s always a chance that it’s all a smoke screen, but given the evidence, Trump is the hero we need.
And I consider such thinking regarding an individual running for office to be signs of a cult of personality. There is NOTHING in Trump’s past that indicates he is qualified to be president. Seeing problems with globalization isn’t the only one. As someone who is trying to follow the Christian religion, referring to Trump as “The King of Kings” is a problem to me. What I see in Trump is a self-serving individual, who is an opportunist who jumps on things he thinks to see, fails to think through properly or properly prepare, gambles to an excess and usually fails.
Personally, I am looking to go my own way, and I don’t need any sort of Alpha of Alpha among men. But others can go ahead and feel they need an Alpha of Alpha if they like. It just isn’t mine.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
2016-05-19 at 12:07 AM#240874Anyone who thinks Trump is evil is either believing the mass media or jealous. He is the alpha of alphas, the king of kings. Granted, there’s always a chance that it’s all a smoke screen, but given the evidence, Trump is the hero we need.
2016-05-18 at 10:48 PM#240849Topic: Donald Trump, That Scurrilous Rogue!
in forum Political CornerThe New York Times has revealed that Donald Trump has issues with women. They strongly imply we should vote for Hillary because of this. Here is a review of the whole situation.
Ann Coulter: Trump’s Problem with Women
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/18/ann-coulter-trumps-problem-women/Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
2016-05-18 at 8:48 PM#240827How about I choose none of the above?
You really think that’s an option? Really?
Sorry Pollyanna, but none of the above is not on the menu here. You’re getting one or the other whether you like it or not.
You have a problem with the lesser of two evils because it’s evil? Well in politics evil is inevitable. Deal with it. If you’re not siding with the lesser of two evils you’re siding with the greater by default.
Reality here: My vote is irrelevant and how I vote has a statistically zero chance of impacting anything. Given this, I might as well vote, and think and act the way I think is right, because in the end, this is all I can do.
Because of my irrelevance in the big scheme doesn’t matter in regards to who gets elected, why would I vote for evil? The vote is a mere form of expression at this point. Why do I vote for someone who doesn’t hold my views, just because I hate another candidate more?
And yes, I am getting one or the other, whether I like it or not, so why bother asking me which I prefer? Say I don’t prefer either. I say I don’t want any and you will still shove something down my throat, so why ask?
If I had THAT much power, I would of gone with something else, but I can’t. I am not registered with any party now either. I would of considered registered Republican and voting in the political primary (possibly for Kasich), but the last time I registered Republican, to vote for Ron Paul in the primary, I started to get spammed by GOP junk mail that was a waste of my time.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
2016-05-18 at 4:35 PM#240740Anyone who thought (or still thinks) Trump is a “republican” is just another oblivious american voter.
Oh we’re well aware of that. On the contrary, the fact that Trump is not a “republican” is his main selling point. Notice how all his opposition within the republican party are the same republican assholes who have failed the american people time and time again?
So he’s not really a “republican”?
GOOD.
Definitely agree there, the republican party was a joke before Trump. Funnily enough, it turns out the democrat primary system is much more rigged than the republican one.
2016-05-18 at 3:14 PM#240718How about I choose none of the above?
You really think that’s an option? Really?
Sorry Pollyanna, but none of the above is not on the menu here. You’re getting one or the other whether you like it or not.
You have a problem with the lesser of two evils because it’s evil? Well in politics evil is inevitable. Deal with it. If you’re not siding with the lesser of two evils you’re siding with the greater by default.
Anyone who thought (or still thinks) Trump is a “republican” is just another oblivious american voter.
Oh we’re well aware of that. On the contrary, the fact that Trump is not a “republican” is his main selling point. Notice how all his opposition within the republican party are the same republican assholes who have failed the american people time and time again?
So he’s not really a “republican”?
GOOD.
2016-05-18 at 2:29 PM#240706Anyone who thought (or still thinks) Trump is a “republican” is just another oblivious american voter. Hillary is more of a republican than he is, another reason not to vote for her. Trump will hopefully pave the way for social capitalism, a system that balances profits with progress and the greater good of society. If you actually check his website, he has all his policies listed and they are strong. Pivoting is necessary to win an election, it’s how the game works, and that’s what it is, a game.
2016-05-18 at 11:24 AM#240630In reply to: A Trump question no one is asking
Beer:
I think the Clinton Foundation is going to be a huge issue, Trump will see to it. I just haven’t heard anything on the news one way or the other with Trump’s business. If it’s a big deal to know whether or not you own Apple stock, it should be an even bigger deal to have a company the size of Trump’s that could move ahead of time knowing whether or not a trade deal was going to be made.
Order the good wine
2016-05-18 at 7:07 AM#240549I’m a politics guy, so to me this is brilliant strategy considering the fact that women make up 51% of the US voting block.
Whatever is clever to win the election! He has to win guys and if this helps to get more women to vote for him…its all that counts.
Here is a video where Donald Trump openly
I prefer it openly, rather than the sneaky Obama Care, which works like an extra tax for men, in disguise.
If you consider that men on average are smarter and are naturally designed to be the better workers, than its maybe fair if a woman, who is same good at work as a man earns a bit more money, because women are biologically at disadvantage against men.
What I dont like are the lies about women being same skilled and intelligent as men on average and that its a scandal that women earn less money on average for the same work!
So it depends on how you reason why a woman earns more money for the same work than a man.
2016-05-18 at 6:36 AM#240539During this campaign, during a debate, he came out and said American wages are too high
He’s right. His wages are too high.
With Trump, he is now pivoting on wages. He did drop it, because it cost himself votes. It isn’t what he stands for now. He actual clarified by saying that he was speaking about the Minimum Wage:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/donald-trump-wages-215812
The pivot here was that he now says no one is getting raises (wages are too low):
http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/28/news/economy/trump-wages/However, he is now not opposed to the minimum wage going up (because people need to live):
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/05/trump-signals-willingness-to-raise-us-minimum-wage.html
If the political winds change, he stands a chance to get back to his original view you happen to support that American wages are too high. It isn’t likely, because Trump is now pivoting to more liberal positions to try to get elected.
In regards to what Trump gets paid, I am not sure how his pay is structured.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
2016-05-18 at 6:26 AM#240534If I vote for a lesser of two evils, I end up getting evil still.
Not this crap again.
So if you have a choice between being raped up the ass by a soft dildo or raped up the ass by a feminist chainsaw, you’ll choose the chainsaw by default by choosing neither because “both are rape”?
Seriously?
No. Seriously?!
How about I choose none of the above? In regards to voting, I might as well also, because my vote doesn’t matter statistically at all. That is the thing here. You can use “pick one of the two” to get a clarity in regards to priorities. However, when it comes to actual living and doing things, such “pick one of the two” ends up as a form of control that works against your own interests. Trump is completely and totally unacceptable for myself, and a lot of people. The more this goes on, the worse he is shown to be. So, then my choice needs to be Hillary, right, if I think that?
So, when it comes to voting and candidates, I counter the argument of my vote being wasted to be one that my vote is irrelevant anyhow, and the only value it has, is to reflect what is closest to what I hold true.
Here is my video on None of the Above:
There is a difference here between hypothetical situations to get clarity. Would it be appropriate, to tell a man who is going MGTOW, he MUST pick one of two women to marry, when marrying isn’t part of the equation?
In my world, I don’t get raped, and there is a zero chance where I would be given a choice of how I would be.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
2016-05-17 at 8:59 PM#240448There are some reasons to believe he’s a man of values and principles and that he’s a closet patriot – anti-globalist and nationalist, and that he won’t flip flop or change that tune once he’s elected.
Right now he’s doing everything he must do to get elected, and sometimes it appears like he’s just another politician. But judging on the backlash against him from the establishment – he’s a real deal.
So whatever – I’ll give him a pass on using populism and watering himself down and cutting deals with GOP and power brokers. Whatever gets him elected really. Do don’t take this as a sign of weakness.What do you have to base this on, besides wishful thinking? I know it is possible to end up buying ANYTHING, because things look so bad, but what are Trump’s values?
And with all this, this is why I get sick of politics. Throughout history, you see the ill-suited rise to power, from Hitler to other dictators, and ton of cult of personality. They sell themselves as the miracle everyone needs, and people buy it, out of hope.
Name one view he has been consistent on. I am having a hard time finding any. He changed his view on work visa, for example:
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/03/trump-flip-flops-on-worker-visasHe also said outsourcing created jobs in the past:
https://web.archive.org/web/20060507011645/http://donaldtrump.trumpuniversity.com/default.asp?item=98255He now says his stand on the Muslim ban was “just a suggestion”.
During this campaign, during a debate, he came out and said American wages are too high:
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-wages-are-too-high-2015-11He then backed away from that, because it didn’t play with his target audience.
Also, check out his hiring practices:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431908/donald-trump-immigration-hypocrite-who-ignores-american-workersAnd how he makes his products:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-decries-outsourcing-family-brand-manufactured-abroad/story?id=37502012"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
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