Women to serve in close combat roles in the British military

[solitudeParticipant 346]

STORM wrote:

This is exactly what bothers me about women in military. Even if they are in front line combat units, i believe they’ll still find a way to waffle their way out of it. So what should happen, is they should have a seperate boot camp where they are trained for support roles. Everyone saying “good these bitches will get what they asked for” don’t understand that they actually won’t, they will get recognition from everyone for making the cut, and in the end, they will never see a day of CQC.

Affirmative action in the work place is tragic. Companies may lose a couple of bucks having inferior workers in higher roles but in the military where lives are on the line is unforgivable. If they make the cut I’m all for it otherwise you find non combat roles for them to fill.

How could they live with themselves knowing their inability to keep up may cost a family their father/husband? Selfish.

[GrumpyParticipant]

From 25 years of personal experience, in an front line Armoured Regiment…
I f~~~ing love this part.

solitude wrote:

also think a blanket approach to opening up all ground combat roles to women is too ‘cookie-cutter’.

I see no reason why women couldn’t serve in front line armoured regiments that aren’t quite as physically demanding as, say, the infantry. These units do see direct combat, but the soldiers are ‘mounted’ in fighting vehicles, so there is less physical fitness required and they do not engage in hand-to-hand combat unless their vehicle is disabled and over-run by the enemy.

F~~~ing experts never did Armoured Vehicle maintenance did they? (replace a tank track)

In Canada, during the mid 1980’s we had a little experiment regarding women in the Combat Arms. The result was in the Regiment I served in there have been only 10 women who served as “Armoured Soldiers/Officers” in over 20 years. Most, not all, but MOST (7/10) got the f~~~ out out when they realized it is not as easy as they were lead to believe.
Most became air mattresses/ground sheets and then married fellow soldiers after getting knocked up. Every last one of them could be counted on to have the lightest/easiest jobs available.

Infantry is Infantry, foremost, and always. They are the pointy end of the stick at all times.
Armoured, Artillery, and Combat Engineers all have specialty training and duties as well as Basic infantry training and duties. They MUST follow the Infantry physical fitness because they can and WILL be deployed as Infantry when required to do so.
When I was in Recce, we did LRRP both mounted and dismounted. Daytime was mounted, night patrols are dismounted. I was also a dismounted scout section commander (Infantry) on demand.
You carried all your personal kit required on your f~~~ing back, and being “mounted” isn’t a piece of cake either. You eat, breathe, and live in that vehicle 24/7/365 when deployed regardless of the environment you are in.
We actually evac’d guys that froze to the INSIDES of their vehicles on winter ops, in the Arctic it was worse.
When I was on the tanks, it was more of the same, just more labour intensive to keep the tanks serviced.
At the end of the day. ALL Combat Arms soldiers MUST be able to be employed in the role of Infantry when required. That requirement pops up a lot.

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I f~~~ing HATE “experts” that have never actually experienced what they think they “know”

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

Sad thing is even historic battles where hundreds of thousands of men died in combat, the story is now being re-written so that bitches are now front and center in the stealing of valor from the men who died horribly, were injured horribly, so that we can sit in comfort and re-write and ignore their sacrifice. Now the gynocentric framing on history, or gashstory. So that some bitch who took a factory job can now steal the narrative, because he is too dead to object. Battle of Verdun, one battle in one war, 250 000 MEN dead in 10 months in what was described as a meat grinder.

F~~~ing disgrace.

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