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Anonymous3ok, 80% of women are all vying for the top 20% of men. That leaves 80% of men with the remaining 20% of women. 60% of men will never have a chance at ANY woman, that’s just the cold hard reality of it. Whatever puts you in the top 20% of men is irrelevant, you still get your pick or picks of the litter. Women would rather share one of the top 20 than even consider any other man. Before Feminism released hypergamy from it’s restraints there was a chance for every man to possibly find a partner, leading to more people being happy (men and women). Now with hypergamy running butt wild the bottom 60% of men have zero incentive to participate in the “game”.
Will women ask men out, I don’t care if they do, I’m still most likely not interested. At this point in my life, the juice just isn’t worth the squeeze.
That’s what they want you to think. They want you to think their vaginas are golden and every man desperately wants access to it, and if you don’t “get” access you are a big loser.
Yet, here we are, on MGTOW, going our own way. Are men screaming “WHERE ARE ALL THE GOOD WOMEN?!?!?” and begging for women to “WOMEN UP AND MARRY US MEN!!!!!” and telling woman to “GROW UP AND STOP BEING SUCH WOMAN-CHILDREN!!!!”?
Or is it the very opposite? We left, and it’s women that chase us around, try to get onto this site, write articles obsessing over us, train their effeminate little pussy beggars to write hit pieces on us too, and if you’re smart, you can see it’s transparent begging?
It is MEN that have the choice, and MEN opted out.
That’s why all these articles focus on MEN. Not one serious publisher or even media personality thinks it’s “women opted out of marriage”. It’s always “men are opting out”.
Ask yourself WHY that is the case if we’re really supposed to believe 80% of women chase 20% of men, and that 100% of men will take 100% of women. Because from where I’m sitting, it seems like the numbers of men willing to take women are low and dropping fast.
Especially when you consider how female SMV works.
You would literally have to force me at gunpoint to get together with a 35 year old single mother. And even then I might rather take the bullet. That’s how low women’s SMV is. They have that window, pretty much 15-25, and then it drops and collapses by 35, where it’s worth less than nothing. EVEN THEY write articles complaining that they’re invisible after 30 and dating sucks at that age. Why? Because men want nothing to do with them.
And with how bad marriage has been jiggered due to inept politicians and feminists, 70%+ of 18-34 year old men are unmarried. They’re not suddenly going to marry those women when either they or women get older. And I’ll tell you what, that 30% that is married? That’s not a “top” by any means, those are the blue pill men, that’s why they got married.
So start seeing through the lies and start having some self respect man.
lol “can’t get a woman” give me a break. Women make out like bandits with any man they can get, they’re in no position to decide anything. They can take what they can get, and because of their atrocious behavior and society’s legal and social culture, that means they can get nothing.
I am fairly new to this, so could someone please tell me what SVM is? I have figured out all the other terms except this one -Thanks!
I have only been asked out once, by a coworker to the company Christmas party. I said no, I couldn’t be bothered sitting next to her all night. I wanted to sit with people in my department.
I really don’t know if they will start asking men out en masse, even though they are all so empowered and foward thinking.
At this point in my life, the juice just isn’t worth the squeeze.
Yes, that is what I thought during the last 30 years or so.
Just seeing what had become of some classmates scared the hell out of me.
Girls that “made me hard” years before were suddenly uglier than a turtle…Not ugly by their genetics, but ugly by their inner values: The constant bad mood and the frown on their faces that had engraved itself into their appearance.
Just scary. And in the 90’s, I was was glad to be be alive. Other school comrades, we would now call them “blue pillers”, had taken the bait and were already complaining about being locked in “under the hood”…So I escaped by luck.
In Germany, we have the word: “Ehekäfig” meaning “marriage cage”.
And this word is hundreds of years old.
And being locked up in a cage together with “the obligation” to watch German “RTL-TV” all evening long would have been a slow death sentence for me.
Since 1992, I am a certified happy “seal of approval” MGTOW.
And later “experiments” with relationships only showed me that there is no other way than MGTOW, or suicide…
Yes, women are like radioactive waste. Sometimes the radiation gets worse as low radiation isotopes fall apart and form higher gamma-ray emitting radionuclides.
In 2010, I was at a customer’s house and witnessed their daughter. The way she even put down her parents in front of me… I had to look at the man just rolling my eyes…
“Don’t shoot me, I’m only the piano player” – I made this reference of Elton John and the customer laughed.
But they were afraid of their own daughter’s rebelling and raging. Age 18 or so – and yelling the crap out of them. For no real and apparent reason. Even trying to get me involved.Good, I converted the whole house to a “unicable network” on that day, but I will never forget this daughter.
But I had already seen many of these – you can’t call them women anymore – daughters.
I said to myself, driving home that night: “If these “fruits” treat their men the same way in a few years’ time, then we are headed for a “rebellion of men” against women…
Now in 2016, it is “these few years later” that I had predicted to myself. These beasts are now on “the marriage market” and the “water-barrel is full and running over”.
So, it was just a matter of time for MGTOW to evolve. Women have exceeded the pain threshold.
And I’ve seen it happen. Even as a “never married” and thus “inexperienced” man, I know exactly what blue pill slaves go through.
I was working in “the private space” of these creatures and some even treated me like their husbands…
In all these 18 years, I never took one “free pussy” from my customer base.
NEVER.
They were all as erotic as crocodiles, possibly biting your dick off…
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I am fairly new to this, so could someone please tell me what SVM is?
It stands for “sexual marketplace value”. That terms refers to how desirable you are to prospective sexual partners.
If you type the phrase “Rollo Tomassi SMV chart” into your favorite image search engine, you’ll get a chart which will explain the concept of SMV and it’s changes over time to you immediately.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I am fairly new to this, so could someone please tell me what SVM is? I have figured out all the other terms except this one -Thanks!
SMV means “Sexual Market Value”
Topic on SMV:
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ok, 80% of women are all vying for the top 20% of men. That leaves 80% of men with the remaining 20% of women. 60% of men will never have a chance at ANY woman, that’s just the cold hard reality of it. Whatever puts you in the top 20% of men is irrelevant, you still get your pick or picks of the litter. Women would rather share one of the top 20 than even consider any other man. Before Feminism released hypergamy from it’s restraints there was a chance for every man to possibly find a partner, leading to more people being happy (men and women). Now with hypergamy running butt wild the bottom 60% of men have zero incentive to participate in the “game”.
Will women ask men out, I don’t care if they do, I’m still most likely not interested. At this point in my life, the juice just isn’t worth the squeeze.
I think the 80/20 rule definitely applies when women are in their party Alpha c~~~ carousel years. During this time they are only interested in f~~~ing the top 20% of guys, anyone who isn’t in this 20% is thought of as below average and creepy for even daring to talk to them.
Pretty much any woman who is a 4 and above will have absolutely no problem finding one of these guys to f~~~ her. Yes it might be a one off pump and dump but she will still have no problem getting one of these guys. This leads to a situation where the remaining non Alpha 80% of guys spend there 20’s getting virtually no pussy so they believe that pussy is valuable, hard to find and you need to keep hold of it. They don’t realise that there are 20% of men getting all the sex and that these women are really just sluts.
However, once a woman gets into her early 30s she starts to realise her SMV is reducing and the carousel ride is slowly but surely starting to slow down. She wants children, a house and resources so turns her attention to the 80% Beta men who have been working hard and acquired property and money. These are the same men she would not have looked twice at in her party carousel years but now they have something she wants. The Beta starts getting sex and thinks he has won, he believes her when she says she had to date those bad boys to realise what she really wanted. The Beta thinks sex is valuable and hard to find so marries her in the belief this will guarantee him sex.
7 years down the track the woman is even more worried about her SMV, bored of her Beta Wallet and realises if she divorces his she can keep all the money and get back on the carousel one last time.
For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
And with how bad marriage has been jiggered due to inept politicians and feminists, 70%+ of 18-34 year old men are unmarried. They’re not suddenly going to marry those women when either they or women get older. And I’ll tell you what, that 30% that is married? That’s not a “top” by any means, those are the blue pill men, that’s why they got married.
This is definitely true. There is lots of stuff out there saying people are marrying later in life, but I think that trend is coming to an end and more people will just stop getting married. Getting married later in life, as we all know, really just means princess wanted her ride on the carousel before settling for a wallet, and more guys are smartening up to this behavior.
Its really entered a death spiral at this point…all its going to take is one generation where a majority do not marry and it becomes the new norm…practically everyone will look at how stupid marriage is and laugh at the idea of how many people used to do it. Everyone of course except for women who want their princess day and divorce lottery. Consider 30% of 18-34 year olds are married, and most probably won’t marry after that age, I think a generation where marriage is what a minority do is alive right now.
Now in 2016, it is “these few years later” that I had predicted to myself. These beasts are now on “the marriage market” and the “water-barrel is full and running over”.
MGTOW doesn’t recruit members, women do all the recruiting for us.
Thank you Gargamel and Old Bill for answering my question. It makes sense to me now.
MGTOW doesn’t recruit members, women do all the recruiting for us.
That is exactly what I meant. But I was seeing “the ways of society” from the outside:
“I’m just sittin’ here watching the wheels go ’round and ’round”…
To “join in” in that “stupidity race” was out of the question for all of these years. As a business man, I had to “keep my cool” and never get involved in anything.
By 2011, seeing what happened in Fukushima, seeing the wasteland that was created…
As a child, my father was nagged by 3 women at the same time, until he turned the whole apartment into a place looking exactly like the reactor site of Fukushima. And it reminded me about how hazardous it was to clean up. Glass fragments, sharp edges, strange smells, unknown liquids…
Women do “Fukushima” to your life. And I never forget these events.
And my girlfriends tried to pull the same on me. Out of luck, they were gone faster than they expected.
I saw this exact behavior in today’s women that had lead my father to “total destruction” decades ago.
Don’t even take “free pussy”… Don’t blame me if that is emotional. Women are so destructive and “down below”, that it is hard to comprehend.
Later in life it was easy to comfort myself for my “wasteland childhood”. I even saw it as an advantage (!).
What I had “behind me” is what other men were just beginning to experience. Men that grew up “in paradise” – or at least in a stable and steady environment, were mostly not aware of what destruction women can and will do to their lives.
Especially since they do not even respect their men anymore. Not even a tiny bit.
For me, the horror was over, for other men it had just begun. That’s when I was able to start speaking freely about my childhood. Nobody laughed anymore. Maybe because they were already all brought to the edge of insanity by their women.
My father had 3 of them. Bitch-mother, -grandmother and -sister.
They are like a “radioactive accident”. Just as destructive and long lasting. I always thought of women having a “contaminated safety zone” around them…
It was not pleasant for me if women suddenly started to forcefully hug and kiss me just to convince me that “life with a women is so much better”…
Any men would spiral out of control when a women half his age suddenly starts to sit on his lap…
But I told them that hundreds of women turned my heart into a “nuclear waste site”.
The moment women see my house filling hobbies, tools and equipment, they start to bitch… They want to turn my place into something that is as boring and f~~~ed up as the ruins of Pripjat… (Chernobyl)…
For me, “free pussy” always ended in a nerve wrecking situation. She always wanted to be the “nuclear accident of my life” and it always caused me emotional pain to disconnect them afterwards.
Falling in love was always pain. But they never got me because “my real education” cleaning up relationship-disaster sites was something they did not come across yet.
I have a “women allergy syndrome”.
My word goes out to the WHO to specify this “disease” in the ICD-10 catalog of mental illnesses:
As: “WAS ICD-10 code F.xx” (numbers categorize and specify the disease)
So we can put a warning label on women:
“Causes long term WAS (Women Allergy Syndrome), avoid exposure over extended periods of time”
“May lead to BPH (Blue Pill Hell) Syndrome”
And a man gets the code F.xx and T.xx on his sick leave form…
T.xx stands for intoxications…
F.xx for mental illnesses.
It has been scientifically proven that women do cause illness in men.
So the WHO should act…
We MGTOW don’t need c~~~y “health warning labels” on cigarettes, we rather start labeling c~~~s for what they are:
TOXIC.
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Just throwing in my two pennies worth….
When a woman flips through profiles on Tinder then suddenly swipes the other way and says lets meet up…..isn’t that an example of women asking men out?
She cheated on me ..... my fault. I showed an interest in another woman......my fault.
But as a man, I’m a similar way, to me women over 25 are just completely undesirable and not worthy of notice. They are just annoyances in the world that I’d rather not deal with, and when I’m talking about women sexually they don’t even register.
Yes, and why is that?
I have seen happy women that didn’t hit the wall visibly. They aged slowly and were even pretty at age 70.
They say “beauty lies within” or internal beauty shows on the outside.
In my opinion “The Wall” happens when their internal problems and metal issues “make it to the outside”.
Take a look at ladies hitting the wall… They have multi-layered issues all over. More layers than a PC motherboard… It is almost scary.
For us, it is like a warning sign: Pay attention, she is ugly now… Looking like a turtle…
But for the big industry is it very fortunate:
The TV makes women feel bad,
then the cosmetics and clothing industry goes up to record figures…
The toxic chemicals in women’s cosmetics cause more health and mental issues….
The shrinks suddenly are omnipresent and also make 6-figures…
Women get sick and the healthcare system lives off of that…
The divorce industry then get their share…
They can make more TV shows, comforting “empowered” but unattractive women…
The circle goes ’round and ’round.
And this is “the downward spiral” or circle that a few big money laden companies have brought over the world.
Unplugging is the best you can do.
Same advice for our female readers. Shut off the TV and discard your bulls~~~ magazines.
Women have never seen how beautiful 50 year old mothers can be in areas without media access.
That is why “hitting the wall” is so hard nowadays…
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When a woman flips through profiles on Tinder then suddenly swipes the other way and says lets meet up…..isn’t that an example of women asking men out?
Yes, I think it is. Just a modern day version of what I experienced in real life. But she will most likely still expect you to pay for the date…
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Or we MGTOW will be the “last men standing” with money in our pockets… And the girls will try to score one of us. Like it is here in Germany.
So damn true. I’ve been here for two years now,and quite honestly, I get the meat taco thrown at me constantly. But I don’t bite, I just hit 35 and quite frankly, vagina is the last thing on my mind. My focus is on advancing my education and trying to build a few companies. There is no mistaking the idea that women are abundant, but the opportunity to accomplish things, not so much. And if all else fails, well..hell, there’s plenty of brothels here…
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
Anonymous2Sometimes a woman do send her friend to me and she start talking :” Don’t you think she is gorgeous? I think she is really attractive ….And you know what?? I think she is really like you….Just go and and ask her out, I am absolutely sure that she will say yes!” And I say : No, I am just too busy and experienced to put up with nonsense like that…. It always works.
Women do “Fukushima” to your life.
The proverbial but inevitable meltdown. I went through that once, and once only. Never again. I’m too old and it takes too much f~~~ing energy to keep starting over.
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
The proverbial but inevitable meltdown. I went through that once, and once only. Never again. I’m too old and it takes too much f~~~ing energy to keep starting over.
Long states of “BPH” lead to “WAS”…
After developing the incurable “WAS” disease, there is no starting over. When meeting any woman… She raises her voice once, and that’s it…
“WAS” means: Small bacterial size “trace amounts” of vile female nature make you sick in seconds…
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The circle goes ’round and ’round.
P.S.: And I forgot about the huge pet industry also profiting “big time” on this societal development
Yes, if women would lose all of their mental issues at once, our economy would break down.
Now we “providers” have to take the position of a parent controlling the spending of a princess daughter… by cutting down on her pocket money…
We walk away and no longer give “grown-up princesses” our money to burn.
Parents have the same problem with today’s children: The industry and media machine brainwashed them into defining themselves by what they have and what they wear. And parents can no longer keep up with financing the endless wishes and needs of today’s children. Many people I met told me that “today it has become too expensive to have kids and that is why they don’t have any”.
One of “today’s kids” costs more than I would need to feed myself…
It’s not the porn industry that ruined our kids, it is commercial TV.
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The internet helps too, men of all ages can learn and share much more easily now, but women are building their lonely, bitter, disregarded futures primarily through their own actions.
Do you really think women are just going to stop trying to trap men into marriage simply because men stop being the aggressors in initiating things? Not a chance in hell! As I have said before, marriage for women is like a slot machine that’s guaranteed to cash out every time they pull the lever.
These are the two worlds that we see colliding today, and I’m confident that we will see more and more men walking away from the plantation.
Men all over the world are learning the truth, and internalizing the message. One only has to look at Japan’s herbivore men as a prime example.In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Sometimes a woman do send her friend to me and she start talking :” Don’t you think she is gorgeous? I think she is really attractive ….And you know what?? I think she is really like you….Just go and and ask her out, I am absolutely sure that she will say yes!” And I say : No, I am just too busy and experienced to put up with nonsense like that…. It always works.
Yes, she is nice… And tell her that I have 35000 CD’s and LP’s, car projects, tools everywhere, huge satellite antennas, two rooms full of stereo equipment and electronic repair setups and walls of test and measuring equipment.
And I’m not willing to part with any of it, because of a woman…
Oh, you’ll die lonely…
Answer: I hope to die lonely, so many people chase after me for the knowledge I have… I hope to die lonely… And not with a customer on the phone…
NEVER have I met any women who said that there might be “one woman around” that might admire me for what I do and accept my s~~~ the way it is…
At first, I didn’t tell them about how much space I really have… and that it is way more than the average German women will ever get…
And then women want to push you out of both apartments… Even if I would give them the whole 100 square meter center apartment, they would still want to push me out of the 75 square meter ground level apartment… They are just vile and sick bullies. It’s not about building a nest, It’s about pushing you out. No matter how big your place is: Get a woman and she will do everything to push you out and dump all of your valuable stuff.
That is why “Look at her” or “have you met our beautiful daughter” never gave any fruit.
Everybody knew that a man not accepting slavery is not “sellable” on the marriage market.They wouldn’t even try to hook me up with “their offer” anymore, knowing that it would not work anyway.
But when it came to them needing a service man, they suddenly “stroked my ego” and got p~~~ed off when I send them a bill for my work…
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Anonymous2Gargamel you did hit the nail on the head! As a keen hamradio operator I do have heaps of electronic test gear ,transceivers ,big stereos, including a collector items tube (valves) one, very large flatscreens…etc. My whole home is a man’s cave because it is my home and I am who is making the rules.Long time ago I have involved with a woman who said to me : ” me or your radios!! ” . And I said it: ” was very nice to meet you but it is time move on for both of us.” She had a biggest shock in her life! And I still have my hamradio gears and she is gone!. To die alone?? So what ? I rather die alone but free than some gold digger hoping that I am going soon so she can spend my money.
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