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If women would ask me out – REALLY asking out, not “giving hints” as usual – and pay the dinner then I would accept most times, almost all times, probably, and I would even grant them the best number of orgasms I can.
Yes Eric,
sometimes they would ask me out and then silently expecting me to pay. Because they thought that they would do me a favor. They thought that I must suffer from “so much loneliness”…
I would then tell them my hourly rate as a service technician.
They would go on a NAWALT speech… and I would just tell then that women “never love a technician”… They only want repairs for free…
And then the topic was though… (Blame-shaming mode activated, for me one more reason to find women disgusting: If they don’t get what hey want, then they “blow up in your face”)
Maybe that was half the times when women wanted me to go or “go out” with them. They needed technical service for their s~~~…
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Maybe post-wall single women are going to get desperate, but those are not the women I think any man wants to be asked out by. I don’t know that even they would, but who knows what say a 45 year old wrinkly woman will do. Probably she’ll get cats though instead.
That is the type I was talking about. Sorry for not indicating this “huge difference” in my OP. I should have stated the desperate group at “above 33” with their biological clock ticking…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
“By far, young women showed me the most interest from around 20-26. Sexual interest, not interest in marriage or anything else. ”
Some of us weren’t really, really good looking.
Plus some of us are just late bloomers. Financial matters aside, I know plenty of guys my age with dad bods and beer bellies and guys that have wrecked themselves on drugs or look like hell from years of heavy drinking/smoking…being a fit 30 year old that obviously takes care of yourself and looks young for your age isn’t exactly a bad spot to be if you just want to chase some pussy. Yeah money is always going to get you attention from women…but I’m pretty frugal and go the stealth wealth route in life…I really doubt the increase in female attention I’ve gotten the last few years is attributed to money that they don’t know I have…

Anonymous3Maybe post-wall single women are going to get desperate, but those are not the women I think any man wants to be asked out by. I don’t know that even they would, but who knows what say a 45 year old wrinkly woman will do. Probably she’ll get cats though instead.
That is the type I was talking about. Sorry for not indicating this “huge difference” in my OP. I should have stated the desperate group at “above 33” with their biological clock ticking…
You know it’s funny, women don’t notice 80% of men, like those men are subhuman. They only notice the top 20% of men.
But as a man, I’m a similar way, to me women over 25 are just completely undesirable and not worthy of notice. They are just annoyances in the world that I’d rather not deal with, and when I’m talking about women sexually they don’t even register.
You know it’s funny, women don’t notice 80% of men, like those men are subhuman. They only notice the top 20% of men
I’m even more guilty of this. I’d say I wouldn’t want to do anything with about 90-95% of women I see
I wouldn’t say I think of all of them as subhuman though. Maybe 20-30% tops (depending on surroundings)proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
Lord I hope not. I let my fleshlight air dry on a line out front. No problems yet with chicks bugging me.
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
I dont think it will happen.
Dating is a lousy way to get to know the personality traits of a woman anyway.
Imagine this.
Woman:”Want to go out with me?”
Man:”How toxic is your personality?”
Woman:”Get away from me you woman hating,neckbeard,virgin,basement dwelling loser ”
There is no winning with women.
Best to just walk away and say nothing.
MGTOW.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Women already ask men out. they’re just really REALLY f~~~ing bad at it. Mostly because they absolutely can’t handle rejection. So they try to twist things around to make it seem as if he’s the one asking her. That way she can pretend she has no responsibility or accountability in the matter. It also gives her the option to “reject” him to stroke her ego, or as a s~~~ test, or to see just how much she can extract from him.
They call this f~~~ed up, half assed approach “flirting”.
LOL, no.

Anonymous25If women ask me out on a date then it’s unwanted attention. Seeing as the police in Nottingham classified it as hate crime when men do that to women, perhaps we should treat it as hate crime and report it.
If that doesn’t work we could always try garlic and other well known approaches for keeping blood sucking vampires at bay.
Gargamel wrote: Then again: Who cares what women want?
80% men.
That’s because the top 20% of men, who women REALLY want, don’t give a s~~~! Why give a s~~~ when you don’t have to try?
Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.Women already ask men out. they’re just really REALLY f~~~ing bad at it.
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As you all grow older, you’ll truly begin realize that women become increasingly more desperate.
I know that you all “know” about the Wall and can repeat the truism “Men age like wine, women age like milk”, but you really won’t understand it, really comprehend it, until you’re dealing with the effects every day.
Think of it this way. You can “know” about being punched in the nose by reading about or watching someone being punched in the nose. You can also know about being punched in the nose by actually being punched in the nose.
Bertrand Russell called these two types of knowledge “Knowledge by Description” and “Knowledge by Acquaintance”. The fact of being punched can either be described to you or you can actually be punched. While both are types of knowledge, the latter is far more experiential and thus more immediate and visceral.
I’m in my mid-fifties now and women of similar age flirt, hit on, and try “pick up lines” on me every day. Only decades of not given a f~~~ prevent me from laughing in their faces. I much rather prefer playing “Mickey the Dope” presenting a clueless demeanor towards them. It’s only when they press further that I ruthlessly shut them down in terms which cannot be misconstrued.
After being fawned over because of their meathole for their teens, twenties, and most of their thirties, women spend their forties deep in denial. They only thing they can believe and the only thing they want to believe it that any problems they have in the dating scene are the fault of men. By the time their fifties roll around, even women cannot remain that deep in denial. That’s when they become increasingly desperate, so desperate that they begin trying – and failing – to regularly approach men.
The abandonment of, disdain for, and “social invisibility” of women of my generation is readily apparent, but it’s nothing compared to what women of younger generations are going to face in their fifties and sixties. Thanks to the efforts of divorced mothers, militant feminists, and society as a whole more of the younger generations of men now know women for exactly what they are and will have no qualms about leaving the barren, bitter, bitches behind as they go their own way.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
After being fawned over because of their meathole for their teens, twenties, and most of their thirties, women spend their forties deep in denial. They only thing they can believe and the only thing they want to believe it that any problems they have in the dating scene are the fault of men. By the time their fifties roll around, even women cannot remain that deep in denial. That’s when they become increasingly desperate, so desperate that they begin trying – and failing – to regularly approach men.
Thanks, OldBill,
so you’ve been there too.
Now I know why you were able to explain to me the words “coyote ugly” and “the bagger” so extremely well.
Your knowledge is clearly experiential!
I gave the gold diggers in my local restaurant names of wild animals. Like: Squirrel, roe deer, wild rabbit, kitty cat, Norwegian forest cat, polar bear, kangaroo, panther, island gray fox, lynx, gazelle and coyote.
And in 2007, there was a woman looking as f~~~ed up as “Azrael”, and she was after me like hell… And so we called her “Azraela”.
Of course, I normally chose only names of good looking animals. They had to get used to it. There was no running away. That was the price they paid for hitting on me.
But all women really looked like that. If I took 10 photos of these women, every one of you would now be able to identify which is which…
People sometimes heard me calling these names and laughed their asses off…
Even years later, these names persist. People sometimes even forgot the real names of these women.
“Smurfette” was desperate for German residency and citizenship.
“Sassette” was the pizza delivery lady, and the only one of them that I banged.
And these ladies still react to their names. They went viral…
And they came to sit on my lap. And I stroked them like the corresponding animal. And they liked that. Because I never hated one of them. I just didn’t want them in my life. The petting and massaging got the best of them. But I never wanted to take them to bed.
A girl named “Panther” made very explicit advances on me, by repeatedly rubbing her pussy on my knee.
(No way, at age 19 – she had at least 15 previous carousel dicks and visible herpes in her face)But days later, I would roll my big blue eyes on her and say “look Panthie, I have something for you” – tststststsss – go out to the car and get a box of “Purina Felix cat food” and hand it to her in a majestical way… (I know how to treat a lady)
You should have seen that face…
Or:
Imagine sitting in a restaurant and one guest makes “a deer noise”, and 15 meters away in the kitchen a bitch goes “asshole”.
Then the same guest makes a different deer noise, and “a deer lookalike” comes and brings the coffee…
People sometimes just smiled at me: “Well you’re right”
I replied: “That is the way to talk to them”
Desperation makes women take a lot of s~~~ from a man. At least “my s~~~” was funny, and they were given attention. Better than no attention at all.
If I didn’t appear for 2 days, they would ask their boss: “Where is Gargamel?”
That’s why they still like me and of course, notice me when I talk to them in their “native language”.But: They had “written off” their initial plan to “score me” as a provider.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
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As you all grow older, you’ll truly begin realize that women become increasingly more desperate.
Excellent post OldBill. The whole post well done and should be a MGTOW primer piece for new members.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
After being fawned over because of their meathole for their teens, twenties, and most of their thirties, women spend their forties deep in denial. They only thing they can believe and the only thing they want to believe it that any problems they have in the dating scene are the fault of men. By the time their fifties roll around, even women cannot remain that deep in denial. That’s when they become increasingly desperate, so desperate that they begin trying – and failing – to regularly approach men.
The abandonment of, disdain for, and “social invisibility” of women of my generation is readily apparent, but it’s nothing compared to what women of younger generations are going to face in their fifties and sixties. Thanks to the efforts of divorced mothers, militant feminists, and society as a whole more of the younger generations of men now know women for exactly what they are and will have no qualms about leaving the barren, bitter, bitches behind as they go their own way.
I think its going to start even earlier for younger generations, considering they are now riding the carousel harder than ever in their younger years. I know quite a few women in their early 30s who I’m pretty sure already know deep down inside they’ll never be more than a short term relationship, a fling, or a pump and dump. Yeah they get some attention but its certainly not what they want. Part of that is men are obviously learning from how prior generations acted, but the way the current generation of young women has acted certainly isn’t helping their cause any.
I think its going to start even earlier for younger generations…
I believe you’re right. I believe it’s going to start even earlier for both sexes in the younger generations.
As you note, women are engaged in a “race to the bottom” and have been for decades now. Every year their behavior becomes more disgusting, more damaging, and more reprehensible. Every year, women “burn out” physically and psychologically more quickly. Every year, women through their own behavior prove to more men that women are simply not worth the effort they demand. Ever year, women through their own behavior prove to more men that women are not worth the risk they pose.
Women are getting nastier earlier and, thanks to that, men are getting smarter earlier.
The internet helps too, men of all ages can learn and share much more easily now, but women are building their lonely, bitter, disregarded futures primarily through their own actions.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

Anonymous2As women become more desperate, I’m sure they will start to ask men out on dates, even if it does go against their biology. There is one thing that is stronger than their biological urge to want the man to ask her out, and that is their urge to acquire resources. Do you really think women are just going to stop trying to trap men into marriage simply because men stop being the aggressors in initiating things? Not a chance in hell! As I have said before, marriage for women is like a slot machine that’s guaranteed to cash out every time they pull the lever. There’s no way that women are going to just sit by idly when there is a gynocentric court system willing to give them everything a man has worked for, just for being born with a vagina.

Anonymous5Great post/article man,
I say article cause you really were informative. If I may add I don’t think you’ll see it happen. Women mite “skank up” more along with there f~~~ed pop-culture idols but will not appoarch men in the manner mentioned in your title. Insanity will seep in as we at Mgtow will watch the world burn with a beer in the right and for some us a Taurus 45. Semi auto in the left (now that will change depending on members lol)
I think its going to start even earlier for younger generations…
I believe you’re right. I believe it’s going to start even earlier for both sexes in the younger generations.
As you note, women are engaged in a “race to the bottom” and have been for decades now. Every year their behavior becomes more disgusting, more damaging, and more reprehensible. Every year, women “burn out” physically and psychologically more quickly. Every year, women through their own behavior prove to more men that women are simply not worth the effort they demand. Ever year, women through their own behavior prove to more men that women are not worth the risk they pose.
Women are getting nastier earlier and, thanks to that, men are getting smarter earlier.
The internet helps too, men of all ages can learn and share much more easily now, but women are building their lonely, bitter, disregarded futures primarily through their own actions.
OldBill,
you just took all of the words right out of my mouth.
Truth 100 %.
The hypnosis of commercial TV:
And I have seen this trend starting in the mid-eighties when commercial TV started here in Germany. These “absolute bulls~~~” TV shows generate and breed this type of behavior in all humans, but it affects women’s minds more. These shows were catered towards women anyway.
And the industry that wanted to sell more products did every psychological “trick in the book” to “make women want more”. So they sell more, in markets that were already saturated…
The commercial campaign designers used the “blame shaming mechanism” of women’s brains as a way to manipulate them.
“Nobody is easier to manipulate than the manipulator”
The people designing these TV-commercials and TV-infomercial shows are actually manipulation artists. But women were not smart enough to see that and to look though their schemes…
Myself, I look though a car magazine and suddenly this window pops up… “Oh you are so old fashioned”… No, the reality is that only the “big cars” would really be better than what I have. But I see the subconscious manipulation. And so I don’t waste 50k just to have a few buttons more… And I don’t need a parking assistant… I’m not a c~~~.
Manipulation everywhere. And since satellite TV and cable hit every household since the early 90’s, this downward trend is unbroken.
As a TV, cable and antenna technician I have been with my customers for 18 years, and this way I have seen the continuous deterioration of human values happen right before my eyes.
It is sad fact, that “the smart part of the population” now has to protect itself.
In the 70’s, it didn’t matter so much if a girl was poor or rich. I played along with both types. And if they would have stayed this way, I would have f~~~ed with them, no matter if rich or poor.But since this TV crap split up the population into “egomaniac dumbasses” and “real educated” people… it has actually become dangerous “to walk on the wrong side”.
We call that a “2 class – society”.
Normally we MGTOW rather belong to the “thinking man’s side”, right?
Put a “red dot” on our forehead and do the same with the other gender?
Sounds easy, but that is where our problem begins:
80 % of women are crap-infected and maybe only 20 % of men are stupid enough to watch this type of TV…
Result: 60 % of men will not find a compatible partner that is not infected with the hypergamy virus, leading to constant unhappiness, discontent, unfulfilled materialistic desires and the feeling of incompleteness.
We Germans call it “Konsumrausch”, meaning: “The ever present hypnotic thrill of buying and consuming”
People cannot stop buying even if they already have 10 pieces of something and “only need one”… And keep on buying, even if the credit card is bottomed out…
And why does the media never tell us that they are responsible for addicting people?
The media that make the news and form opinions are the same companies that live off of advertisers’ money…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
ok, 80% of women are all vying for the top 20% of men. That leaves 80% of men with the remaining 20% of women. 60% of men will never have a chance at ANY woman, that’s just the cold hard reality of it. Whatever puts you in the top 20% of men is irrelevant, you still get your pick or picks of the litter. Women would rather share one of the top 20 than even consider any other man. Before Feminism released hypergamy from it’s restraints there was a chance for every man to possibly find a partner, leading to more people being happy (men and women). Now with hypergamy running butt wild the bottom 60% of men have zero incentive to participate in the “game”.
Will women ask men out, I don’t care if they do, I’m still most likely not interested. At this point in my life, the juice just isn’t worth the squeeze.
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