Why I am a Christian

[Prophet MicahParticipant 1972]

SpiderHerder wrote:

It’s a drawing of a bell. Please man, please don’t make stuff up.

Look at that bell dinger…look at the circle around that bell dinger. Can you seriously not see saturn?

All they did in the new logo was illiminate the 6 from the logo. Guess it was drawing too much attention from those who really pay attention to symbols.

No Wife - No Strife

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3753]

That is just what bell clappers look like, that’s all.

Lots of magical thinking in here…

[Prophet MicahParticipant 1972]

SpiderHerder wrote:

That is just what bell clappers look like, that’s all.

Lots of magical thinking in here…

Sorry, aalmost s~~~ myself laughing so hard coming from an avatar that looks like a wizard. NOT AN INSULT! Dunno where that clip is from but I pictured a powerful wizard running from witches thinking “These witches ain’t gettin their hands on my spells!”

But where the fudge is there an actual “Taco Bell?” THAT is magical thinking.

No Wife - No Strife

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3753]

Prophet Micah wrote:

But where the fudge is there an actual “Taco Bell?” THAT is magical thinking.

Haha they’re everywhere, don’t you know ? We just don’t hear them hahaha.

Mmmmm tacos…

[Prophet MicahParticipant 1972]

SpiderHerder wrote:

Haha they’re everywhere, don’t you know ? We just don’t hear them hahaha.

Mmmmm tacos…

I love tacos of every color. I’m reminded of this everytime I watch Clueless(movie full of red pills btw…and hilarious) and see the black chick in there. Mmmm…the things I would do to that dark pussy.

Don’t derail the thread! DICK!!

No Wife - No Strife

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3753]

Says the person who derailed the thread… 😉

Anyway, back to topic.

[Prophet MicahParticipant 1972]

SpiderHerder wrote:

Says the person who derailed the thread…

I can’t help it! Ever since Monk Mode all I wanna do when I wake up every morning is walk out onto the balcony and scream “PUSSY, PUSSY, PUSSY, PUSSAAAAAAAAAAAY! I WANT SOME PUSSAAAAAAAAY!” It’s been a week, maybe 2…I lost count. And I live where a bunch of elderly retired go to live so that probably wouldn’t be the best idea.

No Wife - No Strife

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

INFINITYmachine wrote:

I am sorry you do not accept my belief system at this time

The flaw here is that i do not need to accept or reject people solely on belief system. You can believe in God, Jesus, conspiracies etc and i am fine with it however the minute you state it as truth on here without backing it up the problem begins.

Even then belief systems all vary as one belief might line up while others will not and i care more about evidence over belief systems even i disagree with the beliefs (like for example i am not a Marxist so i am against Hitchens on that issue but i am not against him on other things thereby i do not just dismiss his entire work for any belief he had that i did not align with).

INFINITYmachine wrote:

I am not mad, despite the obvious accusation that I am some kind of liar. If in the future

You are at very least dishonest due to your stating of what you do not and cannot know as truth without backing it up with evidence. If you had undeniable evidence that what you state is complete truth then id accept it and i would retract anything i said against your argument but till then i cannot accept any of this, especially the magical claims.

INFINITYmachine wrote:

If you come to a crossroad point in your life where God seems more like a subject you would like to investigate further,

The reason i am no longer a believer is that i looked into the subject of God and realized that there was no reason to believe in my specific version of God anymore. The God i was brought up on was evidently not real and i had no good reason to believe he was.

Now when it comes to the crossroad if it is like that other guy mentioned then just back to my other post for my response to what that is (the guy who wanted God to use the sledgehammer out of love).

INFINITYmachine wrote:

Obvious resources are the Bible, Churches, pastors, religious television, youtube videos by pastors, and there are libraries full of theology, at your beck and call.

One of the reasons i am an Atheist is that i listened to my pastor, i listened to what is on youtube and i read a good deal of Christian theology which showed me that the bible can’t be a true book, especially when the pastors admit to converting those people who are hurt, Natives or children and sticking to converting them, or those who promote dishonest faith instead of evidence based belief (if you have doubts then pray to God to remove them do not look to evidence).

And if you follow the doubt you were either never a true Christian or are just a lost sheep waiting for Jesus to find you again such as in that story and the one on the prodigal son.

INFINITYmachine wrote:

Getting into a debate, making strife, cursing at will directed at another person’s message is not the type of thing I personally choose to engage in

Read the signature i have for why i curse.

INFINITYmachine wrote:

I will simply let my post stand, and allow people to make their own minds up.

What rational people conclude is that they need more evidence before they can accept your view as truth. Most if not all would accept your claims if they were based on evidence.

As what the other guy said you want to preach without backing your statements up or dealing in debate.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[BachelorForLifeParticipant 483]

INFINITYmachine wrote:

To respond Sir, I personally dislike pornography and the impact it has had on my life. You I cannot judge, but for me, I was constantly trying to search out something new, something different and or something more extreme. I seemed to get bored with porn images. I started off looking at the basic nudes, but as time went on, had to find all kinds of other things, especially new, exotic women.

I consider porn a godsend basically because it’s kept me out of a lot of s~~~ that would otherwise harm me.

I had some cravings for female validation while I was going through puberty, but the thing that kept me from f~~~ing up (like f~~~ing a bitch without a condom, or getting them pregnant) was porn. It’s allowed me to keep living a celibate lifestyle all of my life. It’s also allowed me to avoid being falsely accused of s~~~, since a lot of the women I know are feminazis.

Very few other Christians would agree with me on this front, but as long as you don’t end up neglecting other parts of your life (like your job, chores, education, etc.) because you’re jerking off all day, I see no problem with porn, sex toys, and sex dolls.

Porn has allowed me to live a life of celibacy most men don’t even dream of. It’s also allowed me to avoid pre-marital sex and adultery.

Because the way I see it, things like jerking off is just the same as someone jerking you off or giving you a handjob. F~~~ing sex toys is basically the same thing as f~~~ing another person, without all the risks, and you’re in total control all of the time. F~~~ing sex dolls is the same thing as f~~~ing a bitch, because from what I read about, bitches don’t do anything but lay there anyway; so you might as well f~~~ a sex doll instead. At least they won’t try to sperm jack you.

Porn is a f~~~ing godsend in my eyes because of all these reasons. Why most Christian MGTOWs denounce it is beyond me.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3753]

There ya go.

You kept your sex drive under control by controlling it yourself. The unspeakable things some other men will do because they take care of these urges by forcing someone else to do it (rape, etc.) for them is not a viable answer.

I’ve always taken care of that myself as well, and well, I’m free because I don’t have kids, nor baggage associated with sex (STDs, crazy exes).

Anyway, carry on haha.

[BachelorForLifeParticipant 483]

SpiderHerder wrote:

I’ve always taken care of that myself as well, and well, I’m free because I don’t have kids, nor baggage associated with sex (STDs, crazy exes).

Haha same. I consider myself more of a pagan on this front than a Christian because I view porn as a f~~~ing life saver. #1: reason, I don’t have kids because of it.

I seriously hate being around kids. I don’t hate kids necessarily, but I hate being around them. They’re disgusting to say the least; and f~~~ing loud. All the f~~~ing time.

[Anonymous 1]

Ok, I happened to see the Taco Bell commercial you were referring too on New Years.

I don’t mean to Criticize, but this “Satanic Illuminati” stuff has me shaking my head.

I have Freemasons in the family and at one time I considered joining up so I did my homework on them.

I do not believe there is a “Satanic Illuminati” today nor was there ever. The Bavarian Illuminati of 1776 died out a long time ago and I don’t think they were Satanists. The founding fathers of America were not members of the Bavarian Illuminati. They were for the most part dedicated Freemasons as were most intellectuals of the day. There is nothing Satanic about it.

The Satanic Illuminati Conspiracy started to come out a few years back. Mainly from the David Icke, Mark Dice, Alex Jones crowd and Jones crackpot guests. Dan Brown novels like the “DaVinci Code” movies like “National Treasure” popularized this Masonic Conspiracy bulls~~~ etc.

I watched this happen during that time. Now it is a very popular theory all over the internet and Taco Bell is cashing in on it. I do not think Taco Bell is in on any Satanic Illuminati conspiracy. I know Pop Stars like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry have been cashing in on this too.

These people are idiots and have no idea what the Illuminati even is. Maybe the Pop Star managers are coaching them to do certain things. Madonna did her Baphomet thing on Super Bowl Half Time. Its all just a publicity stunt. The only god they are worshipping is $$$.

I can certainly understand why people get the idea that there is some Satanic Illuminati Conspiracy, but I really do not think this is true.

There have been and still are Conspiracies perpetrated by Freemasons. The infamous P2 Vatican Scandal is one of these.

Are they satanic though?

No, not from my research.

Are they Illuminati?

No, not in the strict definition of the Bavarian Illuminati.

They do consider themselves illuminated in a sense. Masonry worships the Light of Intellect and that is a big part of their teachings. I still entertain the possibility of some Grand Masonic Conspiracy, but I really doubt it is anything like the “Satanic” stuff I have been hearing about.

Anyways, that’s my take on the Illuminati craze happening today.

You can read stuff like Manly P Hall “Secret Destiny of America” too. I find it intriguing, but take it with a healthy dose of salt. Masonic Authors almost never cite their sources which leaves me skeptical of their grandiose claims.

As far as I can tell the Pyramid on the back of the dollar bill is just a symbol for Civilization. It is a work in progress so the top is not yet completed. In anther words the pinnacle of Civilization hasn’t occurred yet.

The All Seeing Eye is a symbol for intellect and knowledge (The Great Architect). Intellect oversees the process of building Civilization.

Aside from that the Eagle is an old Egyptian symbol same as the Obelisk. Masons, deeply respect Ancient Egypt and borrow their symbols showing that they are carrying on the great tradition of Intellect and Civilization.

[narwhalParticipant]

When the…concerns I have between mixing MGTOW and Christianity, or at least how I live my life, has to do with level of active.

I grew Catholic and later migrated more towards a general Christian point of view. I’ve used Christianity is a rather active faith. By that I mean that a Christian is active in his church, prayer life, and how he handles his relationships. My current life is rather inactive in that regard. I do not attend Church, I don’t pray much, and I do not seek to be religious in my relationships with other people (if that makes sense). On the surface, I am clearly rather selfish overall.

At the same time, I’m rather happy with myself and life in general. I have no questions about the motivations for what I do and what I spend my time on. When I do spend time/money on others, it actually feels…more pure if that make sense. I have little concern about my status amongst other people.

A part of me thinks perhaps I put time and effort into the church or volunteer activities, but to what to end? I’m not sure. I know the MGTOW examples in the bible, such as John the Baptist or Paul, will completely devoted in their life towards others and their faith. I do fear that I will ‘lose myself’ if I spend less time on myself and become more open to the influence of others…if that makes sense.

Ok. Then do it.

[BachelorForLifeParticipant 483]

narwhal wrote:

By that I mean that a Christian is active in his church, prayer life, and how he handles his relationships

I agree with that as well. I do still hold that I’m more of a cultural Christian, but if anyone asked me about my beliefs in regards to morality and s~~~, it would line up more with Buddhism or paganism. I just hold to the Christian identity somewhat because that’s what I grew up with. Not only that, aside from Christianity and the bible denouncing porn for the most part, it has a lot of MGTOW truths in it, like when Paul says it’s better for a man to stay single.

[Struck OutParticipant 468]

BachelorForLife wrote:

narwhal wrote:

By that I mean that a Christian is active in his church, prayer life, and how he handles his relationships

I agree with that as well. I do still hold that I’m more of a cultural Christian, but if anyone asked me about my beliefs in regards to morality and s~~~, it would line up more with Buddhism or paganism. I just hold to the Christian identity somewhat because that’s what I grew up with. Not only that, aside from Christianity and the bible denouncing porn for the most part, it has a lot of MGTOW truths in it, like when Paul says it’s better for a man to stay single.

Well stated…Mostly sums me up, as well. I think Christianity and Buddhism complement each other very well.

"Always learn from the mistakes of others. You can never live long enough to make them all yourself."--Groucho Marx.

[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

Prophet Micah wrote:

INFINITYmachine wrote:

Notice the new Taco Bell commercial: Belluminati?

I’m sceptical of any company that has a Saturn planet in their logo. Have you taken a close look at the Taco Bell logo? Saturn is the planet that the occult use to symbolize Satan. All the planets are used to symbolize pagan gods.

INFINITYmachine wrote:

The Christian cross however is openly blasphemed because it is ultimately the only way that exists for salvation.

I understand what you’re saying but let me clarify that a little. It is not THE CROSS that is our way to salvation. Jesus said “No one comes to the Father but through Me.” It is Jesus Christ and believing that He was the Son of God who died for our sins that gives us that path to the Father. Weither He died on a cross or not, in my opinion, is irrelevent. I’m just not a fan of symbolism.

p.s.
I’m also not one for long winded threads as my attention spand sucks. I wish I came across this one sooner. Great job INFINITYmachine. I’ve only read the Original Post so I’ll be back in the morning to read all the replies and such.
May the Lord keep shining His glorious light upon you.

I agree. Jesus Christ’s actual route of death is irrelevant. But it happens to be the cross, and the cross in all it’s brutality, happens to be the symbol of Christianity.

What I was trying to communicate was that it was because of the sacrifice, not the wood that he was on at Golgotha, that allows salvation through faith.

Good catch. God bless you Sir.

Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

narwhal,

I get that. I am just an insane man who reads a really, heavy book. The achilles heel of the mgtow movement, in my short experience with it, appears to be somewhat spiritual in nature. A man, free of the intense mind hex of the woman, free of other obligations, often in the absence of a God-relationship, becomes a hedonist.

He can find himself drifting away from his own spirituality in this lifestyle, and may end up condemned. I can’t judge any individual based on posts, and feel that judgement is not what I want to do. But I merely want to suggest that there is a connection between the constant pursuit of pleasure that leads to a distance from God.

Be well, Sir.

Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

struck out,

There is absolutely no complementary overlap between fundamental Christianity and Buddhism. (Catholicism I do not defend.)

A major conflict of interest is of the Buddhist concept of the “Middle Way”. Spiritual moderation, accomodation of any available philosophies, and assimilation of this overgrown cult, lead a man into destruction. As Jesus Christ is the only vehicle possible for salvation, The Bible many times fortifies the idea that a Christian is to concentrate his spiritual practice through God’s word and his relationship to God. Examples:

Deut 6:5 “You shall love the Lord with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.”

Matt 22:37 Jesus reemphasizes and quotes this law.

It also occurs in the accounts of Mark 12:30, and Luke 10:27.

Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

[INFINITYmachineSpectator 83]

By the way, the Taco Bell symbol contains 666 in it. I can see one 6, I do not know about the other two. The “Belluminati” symbol was an eye inside of a triangle.

As I have already stated, on the back of the dollar bill, there is a ziggurat. This is incomplete because God intervened and confused the language of the people. They abandoned their ambitions to reach the “top of the heavens”. Their ambition was a direct rebellion against God. The eye represented the incentive of “illumination” or “enlightenment”, but not through Godly wisdom. This system was created to some degree by Nimrod. The eye is called “The Eye of Nimrod”.

This information in this post is a mere clarification effort, a restatement of previously posted information.

Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

[Anonymous 1]

INFINITYmachine wrote:

As I have already stated, on the back of the dollar bill, there is a ziggurat. This is incomplete because God intervened and confused the language of the people. They abandoned their ambitions to reach the “top of the heavens”. Their ambition was a direct rebellion against God. The eye represented the incentive of “illumination” or “enlightenment”, but not through Godly wisdom. This system was created to some degree by Nimrod. The eye is called “The Eye of Nimrod”.

No, the back of the dollar bill features a Pyramid not a Ziggurat. A Ziggurat has stepped features.

The eye is called the “Eye of Providence.” Nothing whatever to do with the Tower of Babel story or Nimrod.

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