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    I wanted to share with the mgtow community why I became a Christian some years back. If you are not interested in this type of thing for any reason, I understand. The following is a route of information that I followed that led me to having better spiritual insight, and why Christianity was my way.

    I realize some of it may sound like I’m some kind of wacked-out conspiracy theory guy. I can see why someone would get that impression from this information. But I’m not like that. This is just some information I have gathered that helped me to understand what was all the hubbub about Jesus.

    I was initially saved in the late 90s. I went to a megachurch, but between then and 2015, I aimlessly drifted away from God into all kinds of problems and sin. Things changed for me, when I became exposed to certain aspects of society that are undeniable. Apparently, society is against God and Jesus Christ, and probably always will be and always has been.

    I haven’t been a successful guy, overall in life. Let’s just put that out on the table. But I feel that the one thing right I got was realizing the sheer importance of Jesus Christ, and His impact on history.

    There is in fact out there, men, a spiritual war. Satan is very real and is after all he can get. If satan can make a Christian sin, then he is one step closer to seeing you never find faith or getting distance between you and God. Satan does not live in hell. He is on the earth, and is in charge of all kinds of ranks of demons, and evil spirits.

    Demons and evil spirits find all kinds of ways to destroy people. Satan uses a mixture of deception and your ignorance to make you believe anything that will keep you from faith. If you don’t even believe in satan, that is ok with him. All the better, as it would be hard for you to believe in God if you can’t even admit satan is real. Other recent places where satan has built strongholds: liberalism, which preaches a consistant message of “religious freedom”, the LBTQ movement, where gays already feel excluded because of the minimal amount they know about the Bible, and atheism/intellectualism/agnosticism, which seems to be a very common place for the masses to go when they are openly against the Church or are ignorant about faith in the first place (notice I said ignorant, not stupid).

    But look at the world we live in! You’d have to be in some kind oblivious state not to notice how strange and bizarre society is these days. Notice the new Taco Bell commercial: Belluminati? Secular people seem to think it’s some kind of joke. A joke where nobody laughs? What is the idea behind this illuminati conspiracy anyway and how can it have a bearing on faith?

    This is interesting because the pyramidal structure on the back of the dollar bill is a direct reference to the Tower of Babel story in Genesis 11. It’s a ziggurat, and it was built with the ultimate intention of rebellion against God. The seeing eye is of Nimrod, a blasphemous person mentioned who built cities that later became Babylon. Note the rays coming from the eye, representing enlightenment. This intellectual enlightenment is the way that the devil ensnares people into his monetary system. The pyramid shape represents a hierarcy: the unenlightened people are at the bottom, as they gain enlightenment through the demonic promises of fame, fortune, and/or sex, the man moves higher on the pyramid where there are fewer people on each level.

    Relevant here are several ideas about this in the Bible:
    “The love of money is the root of all evil.” It is the promise of ruthless gain that moves people to the next level. In their greed, Godless people will commit any sin for money. Of course at the top of the pyramid, notice that the triangular eye does not connect to the base. The top of the pyramid is a false spiritual plane that satan inhabits, as the whole system, which he created, is run by and for him.

    The satanic worship of the illuminati is seen on all kinds of symbols all over the world. Satan is often represented by a devil named bathomet, who is classicly pictured against an upside down five pointed star. Notice the prevalence of the five pointed stars in the media, and how frequently they spin the star so that it is not upright. Other symbols include a “sacrificial bull” found on a bronze statue on Wall Street, NYC, and bull’s horns interestingly attached to a gay flag with a rainbow background. America is littered with symbolism. Investigate it for yourself. Note oblisks, the hidden hand in paintings of famous occultists, black boxes (a confederation of the ideal of heaven portrayed in Revelation, seen in Islamic worship in Mecca, and in all kinds of artistic displays all over the world.)

    Every symbol has hidden meanings that relate back to a Biblical concept. The upside down cross was always seen as a satanic symbol of worship, the Catholics used to put it on altars because it was representative of the way Simon Peter was crucified, but the satanic movement has supplanted the symbol to stand for the anti-christ, and there’s loads about that in Revelation. The Christian cross however is openly blasphemed because it is ultimately the only way that exists for salvation.

    Throughout the Old Testament, sacrifices of animals, and their blood were always given for atonement because of our fallen human nature. Because people live in an evil environment and always have, something more had to be done that could allow people to be righteous in front of God. There is no such thing as a sinless person, save for Jesus Christ. Because of the incredible distance between the sinner and God, animal atonement was not making very many people righteous. It is and was impossible to be righteous by following the Old Testament law. The same problem occurs today, in society. A more permanent solution was needed for humans to have a pathway for salvation, and the pathway is as simple as belief in Christ as the Son of God. See John 3:16.

    But is it so simple? Obviously not. The Bible in fact refers to the fact that the path to destruction is wide, whereas the gate to Heaven is “narrow”. These are the words of Christ Himself, and today, just as throughout all of history, most people can find ample reasons and distractions to avoid investigating faith or the Bible. It is satan’s main goal to keep as much of the population occupied by any possible means lest they have an ear to what could save them.

    Distraction is another common tool of the devil. His job is distinctly easier now with smart phones. Note the vast number of people who do not even care to stop looking at their smart phone even when crossing the street. Any time satan spends keeping anyone away from the Bible is money in his bank. The media is pumping out all kinds of varieties of distraction for every taste. Netflix, movies, music, television, are all within easy reach. So is pornography, which is such an easy and deadly spiritual assassin, it is the breeding ground of all kinds of perversions.

    If satan can delay you, and get you through another day without God, he can get you through successively longer periods of time. If once you were in the Church, or simply had a heart for God in some way, satan can use the delay in your spiritual lull to cause you to be filled with something that is not God, especially any type of media. The problem for the masses is that delay is too long. They will run out of time.

    I think it is a real disservice that at funeral services too many people believe that their loved one or friend who has passed is going to go to heaven. They may have been a good person, if that is somehow definable, or may have been some kind of ruthless God hater, either way, the only message the family can stand is the one with the happy ending. Unfortunately, that is not reality. There is no possible way that many people go to heaven. But this kind of thing is a spiritual blindness caused by satanic deception.

    So, I know it’s a long-winded post, I hope it kept your interest. If I can be of assistance to you somehow, contact me.

    I am not interested in a debate.

    Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

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    Excellent my brother!

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    SpiderHerder
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    Well, that’s pretty sad.

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    Greg Honda
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    Thanks for the post.

    I too am aware of the symbolism hidden in plain sight. I know this can be a Godless world but I can only navigate through it myself. I have found it a waste of time to try and get someone to see the folly of worshipping money and possessions.
    All things in life are temporary except the soul.
    Peace be with you brother

    It's Time to get Wise

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    Nice post I enjoyed reading it! Makes one think about the world around us and where we are heading!

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    SweetDaddyDom420
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    I feel as though God is an evil, narcissistic tyrant. Read the old testament. I’d say God is about as evil as they come. The Bible is over 1200 pages of do this, don’t do that, say this, don’t say that, praise me, worship me! ME ME ME!!! Or I will throw you in the fire. Life was so much easier when I was an atheist. Now, I know there is a God, and he is far more wicked than satan could ever be. I refuse to love God, or anyone else for that matter, out of fear.

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    Welcome. I can see your eyes are open Infinity. I have been aware of what you refer to since my teenage years – all highly aware people are and the illusions go deeper. You are on the knowledge path. I have studied God’s teachings in the Christian scriptures and also in the Hindu / Vedic scriptures from the East. Scriptures all refer men to learn about the one God and have the same fundemental teaching. To respect God.

    I have found it a waste of time to try and get someone to see the folly of worshipping money and possessions.
    All things in life are temporary except the soul.

    ^^^^This

    Apparently, society is against God and Jesus Christ, and probably always will be and always has been.

    Though it is not correct to assume imho that the majority of society has always been like this. The Vedic scriptures explain this – referring to the current age as having Godless aspects and discord but in which there is also great facility for those that seek spiritual advancement sincerely seeking God. God gives choice – he gives materialism for those with sufficient Karma that seek it. But there is much strife in the world. Everything has consequences. Cause and effect. Karma.

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    INFINITYmachine
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    I feel as though God is an evil, narcissistic tyrant. Read the old testament. I’d say God is about as evil as they come. The Bible is over 1200 pages of do this, don’t do that, say this, don’t say that, praise me, worship me! ME ME ME!!! Or I will throw you in the fire. Life was so much easier when I was an atheist. Now, I know there is a God, and he is far more wicked than satan could ever be. I refuse to love God, or anyone else for that matter, out of fear.

    So this is a complaint about God I have often received. We have to first understand that God is the soverign power that created the universe in its entirety, and enter into a space of love and awe for who He is. The Old Testament has a lot of laws, yes, and punishment for breaking those laws could be quite severe.

    Was it not first created to first put some boundaries of the wayward hearts of men, beginning first with the Garden of Eden? I could never agree that creating some type of order in the world, creating a healthy respect for who God is, and establishing the basis of the system by which sin could be reconciled is neither narcissistic, tyranical, and definitely not evil. Evil has occurred as a rebellion against God. Because God created the law, and created “good”, evil does not exist because of God, but instead is in the human mind as being attributable in a general way to the law humans do not want to follow.

    But what is the updated revision of what should be followed?

    6 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[e] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

    17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good?[f] No one is good but One, that is, God.[g] But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

    18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

    Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’[h] and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

    20 The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth.[j] What do I still lack?”

    21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

    22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

    Following the law is one thing, a futile pursuit. Jesus called for something entirely of a different sort…

    Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

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    Welcome. I can see your eyes are open Infinity. I have been aware of what you refer to since my teenage years – all highly aware people are and the illusions go deeper. You are on the knowledge path. I have studied God’s teachings in the Christian scriptures and also in the Hindu / Vedic scriptures from the East. Scriptures all refer men to learn about the one God and have the same fundemental teaching. To respect God.

    I have found it a waste of time to try and get someone to see the folly of worshipping money and possessions.
    All things in life are temporary except the soul.

    ^^^^This

    Apparently, society is against God and Jesus Christ, and probably always will be and always has been.

    Though it is not correct to assume imho that the majority of society has always been like this. The Vedic scriptures explain this – referring to the current age as having Godless aspects and discord but in which there is also great facility for those that seek spiritual advancement sincerely seeking God. God gives choice – he gives materialism for those with sufficient Karma that seek it. But there is much strife in the world. Everything has consequences. Cause and effect. Karma.

    Ok Sir, what I am reading here is a distinct combination and confusion between two different religions. The “Karma” concept cannot be combined with Christianity (not Catholicism). The idea has no Biblical basis whatsoever. It suggests that through “spiritual enlightenment” that people will gain “materials” while on earth, and the enemies of the enlightened will somehow “suffer”.

    The message of the Bible is distinctly different. Jesus taught that worldly prosperity was more of a stumbling block to heaven, than a reward from God. Matthew 19:23-24

    Also, the idea of “spiritual advancement” is dfficult. Jesus also taught that maybe there was no such thing for a person, or that merely the beginnings of faith were all that were necessary. Note the following evidence: compare Luke 23:40-42 “The Thief on the Cross” and the parable of the Mustard Seed, Matt 13:31-32.

    The other problems with spiritual advancement I covered in my other post, regarding hierarchy.

    Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

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    It suggests that through “spiritual enlightenment” that people will gain “materials” while on earth, and the enemies of the enlightened will somehow “suffer”.

    You have misinterpreted what I am saying I do not suggest this and neither do the Vedic scriptures. We are on the same page and you do not realise it. I apologise if my post was confusing and not explained correctly. Better to refer to scriptures directly.

    Jesus taught that worldly prosperity was more of a stumbling block to heaven, than a reward from God. Matthew 19:23-24

    Vedic scriptures teach exactly the same thing.

    The “Karma” concept cannot be combined with Christianity (not Catholicism).

    Actually early Christian philosophy endorsed the concept of Karma. For example the Christian philopher Origin believed in karma. It is not a confusing as you seem to think – this is a gross simplification but think of …act properly go to heaven / good karma – act improperly do not go to heaven / bad karma. These are detailed topics not condusive to forum type back and forth debate.

    Also, the idea of “spiritual advancement” is dfficult. Jesus also taught that maybe there was no such thing for a person, or that merely the beginnings of faith were all that were necessary.

    Rather than spiritual advancement think of it more like uncovering the spirit from the conditioning of modern day society.

    You mention 2 different religions but spiritual life is not a religion. Its fine to be a member of a religion but note that religions are merely institutional structures. God is not a religion. He is one God that can be accessed by all peoples in this world.

    These are concepts that are not easy for type to type responses.
    The key point here is that if a person worships God with sincerity he or she is on the right path.

    I wish you well on your journey. Peace.

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    I like Gandalf.

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    Manspread Mansplainer
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    God told me humans are genetically engineered by aliens.

    If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

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    The greatest trick the devil has ever played is convincing people he does not exist. And as for the state of society, its par for the course after all Christ did say ” O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you?”, seems the more things change the more they stay the same.

    “A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, ‘You are mad; you are not like us.'”

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    The greatest trick the devil has ever played is convincing people he does not exist. And as for the state of society, its par for the course after all Christ did say ” O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you?”, seems the more things change the more they stay the same.

    You Sir, have hit the nail on the head. What kind of person, after knowing the devil is real, would not take action to avoid condemnation? If satan can keep people in a state of indifference, or in a lukewarm spiritual condition, they are extremely likely to stay that way. And it is the lukewarmness that is the danger that faces the societal masses. Many people are all too willing to allow any doubt enter their mind, and use it to keep God at a safe distance that allows for consummation of all kinds of hedonistic activites. Said activites do divert people into hell, on a near-constant basis.

    Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

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    There are a lot of people who came to Christ because of their experience of the dark power. So your sharing is much needed and for some may be very helpful.

    I got that you try to get people attention for that Satan is real. If Satan is real, God is more real. Satan is the counterfeit of everything. In order to distinguish counterfeit or to recognize the lie, one must know the truth first, which is God. Without a knowledge of the truth, it is impossible to decipher falseness. Like you are given a counterfeit dollar bill, without a real one to compare, you just cannot tell.

    Most people do not care about faith or God or Bible. Why would they? Live seems running pretty okay. There just seem no need for a “god”. Just like when my marriage as well, I don’t care about MGTOW (I might ridicule MGTOW is a bunch of losers). But when you are divorce raped, then you start asking critical questions and seeking the answers.

    The “need” for God is not there for many. But when God exhausted all the gentle warnings to the slumbered. He might need to use a sledgehammer to wake them up. But keep in mind, He does that out of love.

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    Ah yes, the “satanic illuminati” rules the world theory. This is a popular one nowadays.

    The founding fathers of USA were Freemasons. They chose Masonic Symbols for this country. Freemasons incorporate a lot of Egyptian Symbols and teachings. You probably noticed that the Washington Monument is an Obelisk that stands 555 feet tall. Pyramids, Obelisks, The All Seeing Eye, Eagles, all of these are Egyptian Symbols borrowed by Freemasonry.

    If you want to find out more about this read “Morals and Dogma” by Albert Pike.

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    There are a lot of people who came to Christ because of their experience of the dark power. So your sharing is much needed and for some may be very helpful.

    I got that you try to get people attention for that Satan is real. If Satan is real, God is more real. Satan is the counterfeit of everything. In order to distinguish counterfeit or to recognize the lie, one must know the truth first, which is God. Without a knowledge of the truth, it is impossible to decipher falseness. Like you are given a counterfeit dollar bill, without a real one to compare, you just cannot tell.

    Most people do not care about faith or God or Bible. Why would they? Live seems running pretty okay. There just seem no need for a “god”. Just like when my marriage as well, I don’t care about MGTOW (I might ridicule MGTOW is a bunch of losers). But when you are divorce raped, then you start asking critical questions and seeking the answers.

    The “need” for God is not there for many. But when God exhausted all the gentle warnings to the slumbered. He might need to use a sledgehammer to wake them up. But keep in mind, He does that out of love.

    Well stated Sir. Isn’t it ironic that sometimes the devil drags people into so much evil and darkness that they become repulsed by it, and turn back to God? I like to believe it is God Himself, or maybe through the Holy Spirit, which gives people that insight, that realization that they are on the wrong road.

    I was one of those people back in the day, and I loved a lot of heavy metal bands they usually carried all kinds of demonic themes in their music. After getting saved, one of the first things I had to do was get rid of all those secular cds. Nowadays, I have a Christian music playlist that I jam on. I always knew back in the headbanger days, thanks to the grace of God, that there was an incredible evil force behind that music. Not much has changed over the years. Most of the music, even “radio-friendly” stuff has subtile satanic themes and ideas. It’s hidden in plain sight.

    A good resource for this is Eric Holmberg with Reel to Reel Ministries. His “Rock and Roll, A Search for God” I credit with giving me some knowledge about the evil in music and this video may be the reason I am ultimately not going to be condemned.

    Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

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    Ah yes, the “satanic illuminati” rules the world theory. This is a popular one nowadays.

    The founding fathers of USA were Freemasons. They chose Masonic Symbols for this country. Freemasons incorporate a lot of Egyptian Symbols and teachings. You probably noticed that the Washington Monument is an Obelisk that stands 555 feet tall. Pyramids, Obelisks, The All Seeing Eye, Eagles, all of these are Egyptian Symbols borrowed by Freemasonry.

    If you want to find out more about this read “Morals and Dogma” by Albert Pike.

    I personally do not know about whether the “satanic illuminati” hold an organized ritual practice or anything like what occurs in the Taco Bell commercial. I do believe that much of what you say is true about the Free Masons.

    Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...

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    The heavenly law above the nation is the Bible.
    I claim every right to the beliefs of my faith.
    Many are called, few are chosen.
    God’s kingdom of heaven on earth has now become
    My political refuge.
    This society is destroying the history of its native born
    people at the very same moment history self evidently unfolds.
    My father who art in heaven Winston McKinney is his name.
    His flesh died in 1999. His spirit lives in my heaven.
    He told me to never challenge a man’s truth.
    The truth is what that man says it is, unless you have evidence otherwise.
    This is the spirit of the one who created this flesh
    and I allow no moonlighting by my first born and only begotten son. All just governance derives its authority
    from the consent of the governed. The flesh writing this is my slave and has no authority to contract commercially with any earthly public authority.

    I am a Christian because I never wish to ask permission
    again to be who I was intended to be.
    Those who argue on the opposite side of my truth reveal
    themselves as fools because the truth
    will not argue back nor will it change because they refuse to accept it and believe it. My truth will just stand there self evident while they are looking foolish.
    Jesus Is the simple truth. A&men

    I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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    I am a Christian because I never wish to ask permission
    again to be who I was intended to be.
    Those who argue on the opposite side of my truth reveal
    themselves as fools because the truth
    will not argue back nor will it change because they refuse to accept it and believe it. My truth will just stand there self evident while they are looking foolish.
    Jesus Is the simple truth. A&men

    I was a little nervous about the beginning of your post, but I can agree with the ending. Jesus is the Truth. Truth with a capital “T” bearing a special meaning to Christians: God sent His only Son to die on the cross for our sins. This is real Truth. Earthly truth, is something different.

    Ethics, also are not reliable for anything other than relativistic legalism. Morals, are what God gives to people, and can only be given to people through Godly wisdom, as a result of being saved and having a relationship with God. Laws and morals are created by humans and only exist within an environment, within a context. That’s why they are relativistic. They do not have meaning on their own. They only exist when being compared to something else. Of course, what that environment is also highly subjective.

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