Why do women go for thugs?

[WOTGMSpectator 749]

Feeemales like a guy who is “on the edge”. I could never get that whole “act” down and quite frankly, I never had any desire to. Some guys are just “natural” scumbags. Other guys buy books and “learn” how to be the scumbag women love. And then you have guys like me, who look at the situation and say “F~~~ this s~~~. If I have to act like a douchebag for a few minutes of fun with a high-maintenance-pain-in-the-ass-bitch, it’s not worth it”. I never learned how to be “on the edge”. I was always the guy who was “too nice” and held things inside of me, until one day I let it all out and just exploded in a fury of rage. Apparently, when you go full psycho on women, they respond pretty much the same way as when you are nice to them. You have to treat them like s~~~ without going full psycho. It’s a lot of work, and you have to balance it juuuuuuuust right. Too nice one way, or too hostile the other way, and you’re done with them. I could never find the balance and have no desire to. Focus on other things that make you happy in life and forget about women.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Its not the challenge.
Its not about trying to change him.
Its not about trying to control him.

Its about lust!

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

It’s all about the excitement and ‘gina tingles. When women see these thugs they just want to be f~~~ed hard by them. do you honestly think any woman has ever thought that when looking at a blue piller?

But these guys are purely for fun and f~~~ing, they are not going to provide the lifestyle your average woman wants. So once they get to 32/33 and the carousel ride starts to slow down they desperately grab hold of a wallet.

Like everything with women, it can all be explained by my signature below :

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

I wonder if the reason women crave the scumbags is because deep-down, women believe they’re scum themselves, plus scumbags provide the drama they crave.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Cataphract wrote:

I wonder if the reason women crave the scumbags is because deep-down, women believe they’re scum themselves,

Yes, self-loathing women reveal it when they say things like “you deserve someone better”…. or “I don’t deserve you” ….. or “he was too nice”. That’s about the ONLY thing you can take a woman’s word at face value on.

She hates herself and so do women who think any man who smiles at her is “creepy”.

When a woman smiles at me, I think “she’s got good taste”. 😉 But some women react to positive male attention like it’s “creepy” because they don’t even respect themselves. She doesn’t even BELIEVE she is worthy.

Women who reject “nice guys” in favor of jerks who treat them like crap are very easy to understand. Her self esteem is so low, she wouldn’t know the difference between “love” and not getting spit on.

Remember…..

He gives her what she WANTS.
He gives her what she PREFERS.
He gives her what she think she DESERVES.
— >> to be treated like CRAP.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Anonymous wrote:

Meister wrote:

I disagree.
It does serve a purpose.
And you should write it down.
What you wrote is 100% spot on and correct.

It’s just fascinating that there are so many people who don’t know this.

Ah, misread the tone of that, my bad murica.

Keymaster is right.
It’s not your english.
I’m just an abrasive person.

Keymaster wrote:

Meister wrote:

I’m always flabbergasted how dudes on here start these threads to mindf~~~ about why women feel attracted to ‘bad boys’. It’s neither a secret nor a mystery.

It is ….. to any man who has ever found himself scratching his head wondering WTF. It’s not until someone broke it down into it’s most simple form that a guy will get it.

These men look for a complicated solution, but it’s actually so simple that you can make them understand within a couple of paragraphs. You cannot do men enough of this service.

/audio/do-not-worship-women/

THX 1138 wrote:

Ah, misread the tone of that, my bad murica.

No you didn’t. He intended to be abrasive by taking your humble admission that it’s a “theory”, and stomping on it.

He cannot be “flabbergasted” when EVERY goddam female will lie to your face and misrepresent herself when she says “I’m looking for a nice guy”. They mislead men about this on purpose. Even AFTER bitch fell of the carousel, she still thinks she can mislead you to come running again with a LIE like “It was always you. I saved the best for last“.

Complete monkey s~~~.

It’s not a man’s shortcoming (or character flaw) for not knowing this.

• Other men don’t want you to figure it out.
• Women’s magazines don’t want anyone to know.
• Hallmark and Tiffany’s don’t want you to know.
• Women DEFINITELY don’t want you to know.
• And many women don’t even understand this about themselves until they slam into the f~~~ing wall.

It’s no surprise that it takes a man a while to connect the dots.
Baby women – and every facet of the culture – have been lying to him since day one.

Come on now!

You telling me that men grow up around women, observe them and interact with them but never figure out what and who they feel attracted to?

Because they say something different than what they actually do?

Going by what people say and discarding everyhing else is borderline autistic.

Also:
Many women are very aware of who they are attracted to and also why.
If you have an open conversation with them they will tell you.

Monk

[Anonymous 1]

Repulsive Ralf wrote:

Just search Google for percentage of women who have rape fantasies or percentage of women who have an orgasm whilst being raped. Women find it sexually exciting to be over-powered by a man and in this modern age were gentlemen act civilised and therefore boring, only selfish thugs don’t care enough to treat women the way they hate being treated on a cerebral level, but adore on a sexual level but certainly wont admit it, instead they will talk about his non-existant good points.
Why do you think they like starting arguments that end in their favourite form of love-making?, they get turned on by the violence they incite.
I am generally a “too nice” kind of guy, but in my last job a married woman gave me cause to shout at her, after that she was buying me little presents, asking me to have an affair.
You haven’t got to be a thug to get a woman, you just have to know how to frighten them a bit. A very difficult thing to do in this world were if the girl isn’t receptive to such advances, you can end up in prison.
My own mother dumped a famous international footballer because he was “too nice” and ended up marrying an evil child kicking c~~~ and now claims her life is a punishment from God.
Why do you think 50 shades of grey is such a best seller?

Yup, your right on with that.

[experiencedParticipant]

“Why do women go for thugs?”

Because they deserve each other.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[InRedPillWeTrustSpectator 978]

There is nothing worse when you see a hot girl and be like wow I would love to f~~~ her, but then you hear her talk thuggish and ghetto and it’s just a insta fail. What goes on through my mind at that moment as she probably has f~~~ed so many gang bangers, and I just think of her meathole being shredded, lol. Go smoke your newports and roll your blunts back in the ghetto. F~~~ing disgust

Savage

[InRedPillWeTrustSpectator 978]

Crazy little side story related to this, a female family friend I have known since she was a baby, now is 28, she was so f~~~ing ghetto in her teens all the into early 20’s, only dated mostly all black and smoked weed and drank, she is white btw. She decides to turn her life around, finds a nice Greek guy, they marry, she is now pregnant. I feel so bad the poor guy does not know her past, again what a f~~~ing shame. Could you imagine, nowadays you don’t know what the f~~~ your are signing up for with woman.

Savage

[experiencedParticipant]

InRedPillWeTrust wrote:

There is nothing worse when you see a hot girl and be like wow I would love to f~~~ her, but then you hear her talk thuggish and ghetto and it’s just a insta fail. What goes on through my mind at that moment as she probably has f~~~ed so many gang bangers, and I just think of her meathole being shredded, lol. Go smoke your newports and roll your blunts back in the ghetto. F~~~ing disgust

Like Bell/Biv/DeVoe said, “me and the crew used to do her”

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[CatsPawParticipant 423]

Anonymous wrote:

Pre-agricultural days starting 10k years ago or so then all he way back women sought the protection of the Hunter Gatherer alpha males. Big, strong, aggressive, able to hunt and fight. Lets call this Alpha A.

Post-Hunter Gatherer into the Agricultural Age with the rise of civilizations came the ability of males to accumulate wealth and power came the new alpha, Alpha B.

Women today, and for that past 10k years really have been confronted with two very different Alphas. They are still hardwired to get wet for Alpha A, as they have been for millennia, but they are now posed with the dilemma that the modern world presents to them with the power being mostly in the hands of Alpha B.

This theory of mine explains why some women get aroused watching men fight. It also explains why old crusty f~~~s with money can pull 9’s and 10’s all day long.

Ultimately women want an Alpha AB, so it is no wonder they are near impossible to please.

Only one thing to add really: Women dont know what they want because of this mix of Alphas, meaning they will often seek what they dont have themselves, expecting that part to appear if they are with someone who has it.
Example: A woman is sad, meets a man who is always happy, dates him expecting to be happy as he is.
Doesn’t work ofc and the woman then blames the man, makes him miserable and eventually leaves him thinking he changed.

There are countless ways that women undermine themselves, but they are also hardwired to blame others for it, meaning they never learn.

[narwhalParticipant]

CatsPaw wrote:

Only one thing to add really: Women dont know what they want because of this mix of Alphas, meaning they will often seek what they dont have themselves, expecting that part to appear if they are with someone who has it.

Or, she goes for the guy all the other girls seem to want. She’s competing, getting her self worth from winning the attention of this guy. Once she ‘has’ him, she’s lost all interest.

Sometimes it’s not a specific guy, but a type that’s ‘it’ right now. It seems to have passed a bit, but around here, ‘motorcycle guys’ were it. I have no doubt that many women wanted a guy that rode a motorcycle, yet had no desire to ride or anything of that nature. Now, fishing seems to be the character trait of the day.

I should add that this also seems to get in with a woman’s desire to display her ‘independence’ by doing everything guy’s like to do, as will infiltrate any active men enjoy without women present. Whenever I hear a woman say that she likes fishing, football, shooting, golf, motorcycles, beer, hard liquor, video games, etc…I am skeptical.

Ok. Then do it.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

Why do women go for thugs?

They don’t. It’s the inner monkey deep inside all their brains that goes for thugs and losers. And with resources plentiful for no effort thanks to Uncle Scam holding a gun to the taxpayers heads, women don’t need to think on any higher level than their inner monkey. Just look at the behavior of wretched inner city black women for proof.

Why do their inner monkeys go for thugs and losers? It’s partly because coupling with the largest, most savage male possible is the easiest way for a female to get a little of his protection. That’s important when you’re a little monkey evolving in an environment filled with nasty big predators.

However it’s mostly because that’s the male that’s perceived to be desired by all the other females.

Unlike male monkeys with their unlimited sperm supply, female monkeys only have a limited number of chances to reproduce. This means females have to be far more conservative in their breeding choices than males. She could try to get the best genes into her offspring by seeking out the best males, and that makes sense in a high competition environment of scarcity. However, that requires a lot of effort and comes with a huge risk of being wrong. So in times of plenty, be it lots of fruit on the trees or fat monthly welfare and food stamps from the government, it’s a much more successful breeding strategy for female monkeys to simply ensure that their own progeny aren’t at any significant genetic disadvantage to the children of other females. They do this by breeding with the same males they see all the other females breeding with.

So in times of plenty, females have a slight sexual preference for brutes and a huge, overwhelming sexual preference for males they believe other females also desire. So in the absence of any sort of real struggle or hardship, females naturally trap themselves into a genetic race to the bottom.

This behavior is hardwired into them over the course of millions of years of natural selection. Which makes it trivial to manipulate and f~~~ with.

[Xavier MaloryParticipant 65]

They always need you to be the bad guy. Ironically, she will act s~~~ty until you treat her bad, to bait you into being s~~~ty to her, which is by that point, will deserved.

Preach. My ex-wife did this to me. Even the marriage counselor (who was female) pointed it out, and she still didn’t listen.

Indignation indeed.

The trouble with "Facts" and "Opinions" is the average idiot thinks they're synonyms.

[Xavier MaloryParticipant 65]

Hi Guys. I joined this site today and I feel like I’ve stumbled upon a gold mine of wisdom. What bothers me the most about having my eyes opened is that I have a little girl, and I’m afraid of what she may become, even with my parenting. While I cannot completely control the future, I will give it my all. So to everyone here, I present:

My Promise To My Daughter

You are not a princess.

You are my daughter.

I will raise you to be a woman, not a princess. I will raise you to rely on having a personality, using your brain, and being a self-reliant person. I will instill the values of a good education, extracurricular activities, and looking into the good of other people.

I realize I’m probably fighting an uphill battle, between your narcissist, nut-job mother, the current trends in media and society, and the genetic coding that cause women to seek out the aggressive jerk, but by God, I will TRY to raise you right. I will teach you that while your good looks may get you a short cut, it will not pay off as much as using your incredible brain, your amazing personality, and doing things for yourself. I will teach you that the “bad boy” is only appealing to your lizard brain, and to look past you libido.

You’re not a princess, and I will never let you think you’re royalty, even though you are THE number 1 female in my life, and for the sake of the human race, I will try to raise you to become what a woman SHOULD be.

You’re not a princess.

You’re my daughter. And your daddy loves you.

The trouble with "Facts" and "Opinions" is the average idiot thinks they're synonyms.

[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

You have to go back in time to the cave man society when women developed their ways. The nasty ass caveman came home with the meat. He f~~~ed over the good guys and brought his pussy meat, furs and water. The nice guy, got stomped. The nasty also stole the best cave and kicked the others out.

Let the good times roll

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

BlakeGuy wrote:

You have to go back in time to the cave man society when women developed their ways.

You need to go further back than that, even. Cave men are far too sophisticated a model for basic female sexual behavior.

[Anonymous 9]

Too much questioning I see concerning women.

At this point I don’t give a flying f~~~ about a relationship, or trying to please someone disrespectful c~~~.

Single moms are the worst of the bunch.

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Anonymous wrote:

Too much questioning I see concerning women.

At this point I don’t give a flying f~~~ about a relationship, or trying to please someone disrespectful c~~~.

Single moms are the worst of the bunch.

I agree.

Too many threads about women on this forum.

And as mentioned:
It’s no secret why they like thugs.
Should be obvious to anybody with half a brain.

Monk

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