Why do we still talk so much about women?

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  • #290752
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    John
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    Just wondering why we still talk that much about women. Everyone here has his own story and experienced women f~~~ing up his life. Is there a point when all the relevant facts about women are revealed?

    Some much wiser men than i am developed counter strategies for other men to survive in today’s world. I am eternally grateful for this.

    Talking about women is a way to clear one’s past and free the mind. But why not call it a day, cut women out of one’s life and focus on other things?

    The best to you,

    John

    #290755
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    Keymaster
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    Just wondering why we still talk that much about women

    It’s like asking why people who live near mine fields talk so much about mines.

    The current social and legal climate IS a veritable mine field for men – especially young men – to navigate successfully without getting their legs blown off.

    Kid is 19 and his life is over because 13 little bitches thought it would fun to frame him.

    TALK ABOUT IT. LOUDLY.

    why not call it a day, cut women out of one’s life and focus on other things?

    You can’t just “drive” and ignore that debris on the road (or other hazards) that come flying at you. Just focussing on the road ahead is not nearly enough.

    You need to be 100% aware of your immediate surroundings, check all mirrors every few seconds, don’t allow yourself to get boxed in, maintain a good following distance, make sure nobody’s on your ass, and even look at the front wheel of the cars on the side in case they change lanes without signaling.

    That’s how you stay collision free.
    ( keeps your insurance down, too )

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #290756
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    Antipathy
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    Just wondering why we still talk that much about women. Everyone here has his own story and experienced women f~~~ing up his life. Is there a point when all the relevant facts about women are revealed?

    Some much wiser men than i am developed counter strategies for other men to survive in today’s world. I am eternally grateful for this.

    Talking about women is a way to clear one’s past and free the mind. But why not call it a day, cut women out of one’s life and focus on other things?

    The best to you,

    John

    Some of us still have to be around women everyday. Be it at work or where we live, or both. If we want to vent about their nature, or their annoyance, where do we do that ? It’s certainly not to the women themselves, and not to the mangina’s all around us. This is the only place we have to come and vent about these things. I agree they shouldn’t always be a primary focus, but i have to be around them all the time and need to vent. In an ideal world i could just live on my own ranch property, work alone or only with other men. But this is not possible, at least not for now, and god knows if it ever will be.

    #290761
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    Experienced
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    As MGTower once said, “You can’t live within the past, but you can’t live without it.”
    MGTOW is about keeping men alive.

    Does that answer your question, do you have any more questions? The reason I say this is because it REALLY helped me, and still does, to study this site.
    A healthy ratio of studying vs. asking questions, answers most questions on its own.

    BTW excellent analogy Keymaster!

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #290767
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    Talking about women is a way to clear one’s past and free the mind. But why not call it a day, cut women out of one’s life and focus on other things?

    This site is one of the few places left where men CAN talk about women honestly and directly. Go anywhere else, and any little criticism of women is met with a wave of recrimination and outrage. The freedom here is liberating.

    Also, it’s not so easy to simply “cut women out of one’s life.” Most of us still need to deal with women on a daily basis. So we talk and strategize and figure out work-arounds. Women talk about us, and we talk about them. Welcome to the gender wars.

    #290770
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    Anonymous
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    So how about those Cubs!

    #290771
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    Tuneout
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    Because they have all those jiggley,wiggley parts that
    are oh so much fun and safe if you rent them by the hour

    Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

    #290784
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    Buller100
    Buller100
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    Talking about women is a way to clear one’s past and free the mind. But why not call it a day, cut women out of one’s life and focus on other things?

    This site is one of the few places left where men CAN talk about women honestly and directly. Go anywhere else, and any little criticism of women is met with a wave of recrimination and outrage. The freedom here is liberating.

    Also, it’s not so easy to simply “cut women out of one’s life.” Most of us still need to deal with women on a daily basis. So we talk and strategize and figure out work-arounds. Women talk about us, and we talk about them. Welcome to the gender wars.

    Agreed many have to have relationships with women, family members sisters and even mothers, work and business.

    Also its helpful for me to hear peoples views and how they deal with women.

    #290792
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    John
    John
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    It’s like asking why people who live near mine fields talk so much about mines.

    This is true. When i started this thread i had in mind that there is more than one way to approach this site, for instance for studying or asking questions. Of course it is about warning men, to help them and to be a constant reminder. This is very important and a necessity in my humble opinion.

    Stealthy wrote a lot about finding peace in his postings. Part of this is to do the homework about women and how to dodge their bullets. Also important is to move on and focus to improve one’s life. Personally, i really like to go into detail about a topic, perhaps there might be a time when all is said about female nature. I just feel i need to cut back a little on this topic because it takes too much room in my daily living and thinking.

    Speaking for myself, why not spending a little more time after venting and healing to actually improve one’s life and live one’s dreams instead of pondering about women’s crazy s~~~?

    why not call it a day, cut women out of one’s life and focus on other things?

    You can’t just “drive” and ignore that debris on the road (or other hazards) that come flying at you. Just focussing on the road ahead is not nearly enough.

    It is not about to ignore the threats. This would indeed be dangerous and stupid as hell. I had in mind that i am aware of this, keep an eye on it but focus on myself. More specifically, to ask questions like “what have i done today to improve my life?” or call myself a lazy bastard who should pursue his dreams instead of watching youtube all night…again. So this is not meant in absolute terms like take it or leave it.

    Some of us still have to be around women everyday.

    Yes, this is unfortunately true. And i get that we need a place to vent and that there is no other place. Just wanted to differentiate a little and point out that there is hopefully a lot to gain by using the time and energy to improve one’s life. But yes, it is also important to speak one’s mind.

    As MGTower once said, “You can’t live within the past, but you can’t live without it.”
    MGTOW is about keeping men alive.

    Does that answer your question, do you have any more questions? The reason I say this is because it REALLY helped me, and still does, to study this site.
    A healthy ratio of studying vs. asking questions, answers most questions on its own.

    BTW excellent analogy Keymaster!

    As i stated in another post i am indeed a longtime lurker and i regret it. Should have signed up a long time ago. Thank you for explaining the healthy ratio to me, it really helps me. I have never thought of that. It felt like being trapped in an endless loop. So my idea was to use the knowledge from this site as a tool while focusing on a better life.

    I guess there is no “escape” because laws and threats constantly change about time hence i need to keep an eye on that.

    Talking about women is a way to clear one’s past and free the mind. But why not call it a day, cut women out of one’s life and focus on other things?

    This site is one of the few places left where men CAN talk about women honestly and directly. Go anywhere else, and any little criticism of women is met with a wave of recrimination and outrage. The freedom here is liberating.

    Also, it’s not so easy to simply “cut women out of one’s life.” Most of us still need to deal with women on a daily basis. So we talk and strategize and figure out work-arounds. Women talk about us, and we talk about them. Welcome to the gender wars.

    Point taken! It is true this is one of the very few places where you can tell how it is.

    Of course it is one of the most important things to create these fixes to actually help men in their daily lives. Guess i sound like a broken record, but in a nutshell my intention was like “okay, i learned enough to dodge female bullets for now and try to figure out how to improve my life”.

    #290795
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    John
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    Because they have all those jiggley,wiggley parts that
    are oh so much fun and safe if you rent them by the hour

    I love pussy as the next guy. One female monster is enough to cure that itch for a life time. I’d rather f~~~ my fleshlight which is an awesome product BTW.

    #290800
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    Sidecar
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    Just wondering why we still talk that much about women.

    You might as well ask why Denali Park has so many warning signs about bears. The park rangers talk to you about bears. The same with the outfitters. All the brochures have warnings about bears. So do the maps. Bear bears bears. It’s like they have nothing better to do than warn you that the bears will eat you if they can.

    But, well, they will.

    So don’t feed the bears. Or buy them free drinks at a bar.

    #290805
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    Anonymous
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    […] Of course it is one of the most important things to create these fixes to actually help men in their daily lives. Guess i sound like a broken record, but in a nutshell my intention was like “okay, i learned enough to dodge female bullets for now and try to figure out how to improve my life”.

    Everyone has their own ideas about how MGTOW should work. MRAs say that MGTOW should be about self-improvement. PUAs say that MGTOW should be about teaching pumping and dumping.

    See this thread for an example: /forums/topic/another-rant-from-return-of-kings/#post-289321

    But in their infinite wisdom Keymaster and the other owners/mods of MGTOW.com are content to simply let men talk among themselves about whatever they want. So we end up with a little bit of everything here. Some people talk about how to “go monk” and avoid women altogether, some talk about how to put up with women and work around them, some talk about how they continue to date women. Some posters don’t talk about women at all; they discuss investment strategies or talk about health or weight-lifting or diet or self-improvement ideas. And so on.

    Instead of trying to get everyone to speak only about subjects that you prefer, you should just figure out what YOU want from the site and then just read that material and ignore the rest.

    #290820
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    Anonymous
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    I used to have my own polarity – either you are thinking of women or you just go f~~~ ’em and go your own way.

    However, the reality is women and their user-friendly environment aka society is unfair to men. The ocean we live in is filled to the brim with estrogen and the tides are ever increasing- some violent.

    MGTOW and men pointing out female nature is a pillar that I feel helps me being swept by the waves and turning into a mangina. All over again.

    And to not talk about women would be like religious people telling atheist to just not talk about religion. The flaws are there. It is our duty to point them out.

    There is no greater satisfaction to see the results of one’s hard work. MGTOW is an active resistance to the waves trying to pull you in.

    When we stop talking about women we fail to call out and criticize their ways. MGTOW may be going our own way but you need a machette to create your way in the wild shrubs and tall grass. We are a flood light that is constant focused ‘out there’ so we can be safe at home.

    Living for ourself. Doing what we enjoy.

    #290836
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    The road
    the road
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    3125

    We must always talk about them on this forum. This is how we continue to help men who are just waking up.

    If everyone here wasn’t continuing on in this manner on this forum, then when I showed up for the first time last year, I might not have gotten the idea and I might have left it behind. I was like Neo, searching to figure out what the Matrix was.

    #MANOUT

    #290838
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    Xlrsnbrg
    xlrsnbrg
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    Speaking for myself, why not spending a little more time after venting and healing to actually improve one’s life and live one’s dreams instead of pondering about women’s crazy s~~~?

    Just because people discuss women here a lot does not mean they are not focusing on themselves. I doubt most members have a fixation on talking about women; it’s usually either venting off, or sharing info.

    The latter is important, because the information on this website can save your life.

    But I understand what you mean. I’ve gone my own way a long time ago, and I no longer need any red pills. I rarely feel the need to read these topics. Quite the opposite, I find it upsetting to read about all the crap that’s going on in society. Therefore I sometimes take breaks of weeks or even months not visiting the forum.

    But there is always some special entitled snowflake I eventually meet who p~~~es me off and I find myself here again.

    A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

    #290840
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    The Missing Man
    The Missing Man
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    In all respect I’ve been lurking and have been waiting for this type of question to be asked, I would of asked it myself but knowing my record with threads on the internet I would of been flamed into oblivion. I spend most of my time watching threads on the MGTOW website than I do the rooshv forum and the redpill reddit.

    I see no reason to go on talking about women despite what they have done. I feel that in addition to not seeing marriage worth the trouble, I see that talking about every single thing a women does to screw us over isn’t worth the trouble to talk about. I say this because I know nothing we will do will change the situation in our favor, it will always be some armistice between the so called “MEN” and the so called “Women”.

    I don’t see the whole, meaning I don’t judge a single women based on the actions of a many women. To me every women is NAWALT until proven otherwise, I know I will take flak for this, but then again I’m not really part of MGTOW or any facet of the manosphere, I’m just an observer with a heavy lean towards Redpill ideas.

    I could on but I want to see where this first post takes me.

    #290853
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    Joetech
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    Men and women will always talk about each other. Some of us will go through life and avoid the opposite sex altogether. Some of us will fall in love(oh yes you will) and a lucky few of us will find the kind of women who hate this s~~~ as much as we do. So, glean what you need from this site and leave the rest for others. We all have different needs. This is like the Fred Meyer of counseling services for men. I intend to market my book here, and it’s just an adventure fiction novel. I’m glad this site exists and I wish I had discovered it long ago. Well, you don’t look for a doctor until you need one. This site is preventive medicine for many of us.

    "Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

    #290859
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    K
    Hitman
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    MGTOW is about going your own way. .
    The women who have used the laws and courtrooms to f~~~ some of us over need to be discussed. .in order to help other men.

    #290860
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    Prefer Peace to Piece
    Prefer Peace to Piece
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    10809

    I talk about women because I have to work with them constantly personally and professionally and I am up to my eyeb~~~~ in crazy. It helps to vent. It also helps to see what other guys are doing to protect themselves.
    I would hate to be alone in this world of insane chicks.

    #290865
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    I see that talking about every single thing a women does to screw us over isn’t worth the trouble to talk about.

    It is worth it, because it – quite literally – saves lives futures, freedoms and fortunes.

    Even if it’s just ONE.

    We must always talk about them on this forum. This is how we continue to help men who are just waking up.

    I repeat myself when I don’t need to — for this ^^ reason alone.

    To me every women is NAWALT until proven otherwise

    So does the overwhelming blue-pill majority.
    When men take take attitude, she WILL prove otherwise.

    I don’t see the whole, meaning I don’t judge a single women based on the actions of a many women.

    That’s reasonable – AND recommended!

    You hear women talk about “men” even when they are in a relationship with only one man. They concern themselves with “men” (universally) like in women’s magazines when it says “10 ways to please your man”… but not a single one of those bits of female “advice” ever includes:

    ASK HIM WHAT HE LIKES, AND WHEN HE ANSWERS — >>> DO IT.
    That would be sensible advice for women, instead of the s~~~ they tell each other.

    EXAMPLE:

    This video used to be called “how feminism ruined my dating life” – until she changed it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlGnmcBfM7o

    For too many years and throughout her entire dating life, she acted and behaved in the way women tell each other to act and behave, and doing what she always heard / was taught and told.

    • “You always hear X about men …”
    • “I thought…..”
    • “I was told…..”
    • “We always hear…..”
    • “I always competed with men in relationships because I thought…..”

    None of it took place in her immediate reality, and she found out much too late that it was all bulls~~~. If they understood this, they could throw the bulls~~~ magazines ( and crap other women tell them ) away. She was preoccupied with “what she thought men like” instead of asking HIM what HE likes, and when he answers — >> DO IT.

    I am very big endorser of treating women according to her own behavior and have said it many times. My treatment of her doesn’t depend on ME, it depends on her. If she is a bitch, she will be treated like a bitch. If she is an angel, she will be treated like an angel.

    Women on the other hand will tell you they want a man who “knows how to treat a woman” and who “knows how to treat a lady”. They are expecting NOT to be treated according to their OWN behavior. They will even tell each other to act like a bitch, while expecting to be treated WELL in return. Complete garbage.

    They want to be treated like women/ladies as if they are NOT individuals.

    Fascinating isn’t it.

    I could on but I want to see where this first post takes me.

    How about just a “welcome to the forums”, and we’re happy to have you. Thanks for finally chiming in!

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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