Why do men still desire marriage?

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Most men are capable of doing a cost-benefit analysis. Most people know that 40% of marriages end in divorce. here are some of the key “costs” of divorce in cost-benefit.

-could lose more than 50% of assets depending on income
-child support
-alimony
-a portion of pension payments go to the ex-wife
-child custody and limited visitation
-physical abuse accusations which lead to jail time and criminal record.

There are lots of men aged 25-35 who want to get married in the future. WHY?

I know some of you guys were blue pill men before becoming MGTOW. please explain your past reasonings.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I can not figure it out myself. I have been extremely cautious about marriage since my preteen years. You would think men would learn from the destruction wrought by marriage on those around them.

Like the saying goes,

Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own.
— Aesop

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Because of social pressure to get married and have kids.

Because young men think NAWALT. Mine is different.

Because men are brainwashed by women in society.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[neverAgainParticipant 1662]

hormones, societal pressure, parental pressure, lack of experience

All good things come to an end.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Because men are brainwashed by women in society.

good point, men are brainwashed to be white knights and they think that their self worth is dependent on having a gf or wife.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Here’s my theory…

Men are socialized to want marriage, but not marriage itself; rather, the status it supposedly offers: it makes him a real man. Many men want to be considered a real man, and that status comes from women.

Getting married, providing children, and being a beta provider is exactly what women want. If you give them what they want, they give you the status of a real man. Further, society and the state fully support this.

Now, I’m sure many men seeking marriage have seen the destruction it can cause; however, they believe that not all women are like that. They intend to find a “good” woman to marry, who will respect him for his sacrifice, and they will live happily ever after in a loving marriage whereby he is a real man.

I don’t subscribe to the aforementioned theory in my own life, as I will never get married, but I believe many men do drink the kool aid of marriage. In a lot of cases, they may not even truly understand why they want marriage. They may say something like, “that’s what we’re supposed to do”.

In some cases, men will question marriage, but they will ultimately be shamed into it.

[PacifistParticipant 143]

Because critical thinking is the last thing schools and parents would teach and you’re fighting millions of years of evolution and thousands of years of societal pressure.

Parents have left TV in charge of raising the children and that certainly isn’t going to do it. Disney is yelled at for teaching every little girl she’s a princess but the other side is that ever little boy is taught to be a white knight. As you posted men as they grow learn to preform cost benefit analysis but society continues to push that they should ignore the elephant in the room.

It’s taken being raised or seeing single parent homes for men to realize how much this sucks. However the media and society continue to announce that the right girl is out there being oppressed by the bad men. You just need to find her, rescue her, and then you get your happy ending. Besides the other guys will call you gay if you refuse to worship pussy. Honestly this is probably the biggest one for many men.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Last time.i check women are that one who push for.Marriages while men just want to do what we do biological sex

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Many men, millennials and my generation especially have learned. I think it’s the hard line conservatives that still go after it or highly religious people. Any man in this day and age doesn’t think “Gee! I wanna get married!”

Doesn’t f~~~ing happen. It’s usually the woman who sends an ultimatum: get married or we’re over. Most men worship the pussy and they take the bait thinking they’ll get it. Then it’s too late. At this point, it’s willful ignorance and disregard for reality.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Men have been drip fed the marriage drug for many generations. It’s now in our chemical makeup.

You work hard for her and she give you ‘regular’ pussy and kids.

Nobody has owned up to men and said that only the ‘work hard for them’ part of the drug is now in the syringe.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

They don’t. It’s women who desire marriage and men do it to appease them thinking it’s gonna work at shutting her the f~~~ up. Especially when…….

Silverstone the Second wrote:

the woman sends an ultimatum: get married or we’re over.

^^ Right there, it’s already over – before it even began! “Get married or it’s over” is woman-speak for “I think can easily walk away from you, so it doesn’t matter what you do. I’m bluffing and hoping you’re dumb enough to bite”.

She doesn’t even desire “the marriage”. She wants the divorce. She knows she lives in a world that enables her to collect a payout for being a s~~~ty wife. So why wouldn’t she?

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Men have been running away from the altar since the beginning of time. The last wedding I attended in 2006, my good friend the groom flopped sweat so badly during his vows…. the best man had to run and get him a towel. A f~~~ing TOWEL. And all the women giggled and thought it was “cute”. Including the bride. They will have their 10 year anniversary this fall, and she will get her lifetime alimony. Wait for it.

During the course of their “marriage” she once said “don’t tell him” when I met her for a bit of sushi after work. I said “WHAT? this isn’t a date. Im not lying to my friend of 25 years” and she got very uncomfortable. Doesn’t look like a “marriage” at all. About 3 years ago, he wanted my help with changing all of his passwords and email accounts because he was sick of his wife nosing around in all of his s~~~.

If that’s a “marriage” they can keep it.

Why do men still desire marriage?

I really don’t believe they ever did – or ever would. Men do it out of a sense of “duty” because they are brainwashed to belief it’s “the right thing to do”. We are BOMBARDED with it. Commercials. TV. Film. Radio. Music. Magazines. F~~~ing social media. You would actually have to talk yourself OUT of desiring it.

…. like you need to talk yourself out of ordering a pizza when you see a commercial on TV.

It doesn’t take a genius to know women fail a cost/benefit analysis in marriages and relationships. And more men are waking up to that s~~~ than ever – with 70% of American men under 35 not marrying with the lowest rates recorded in a century.

Add that to the fact that women are now PROVING they fail a cost/benefit analysis, and a monkey can do the math.

Men don’t desire it. Women do.
The bridal industry is almost as big as the divorce industry.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 11]

What part of a 25% chance of a child not really being his, a 40% of being ass raped in family court, and losing everything he has does he not comprehend?

The White Knight/Beta issues are strong with him.

I’ve been skeptical of marriage since I was a teen. It seems like more men are wising up to the raw deal too.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

here’s a quote

Real men are capable of using cost-benefit analysis before making any major decisions.

This is arguably the most important trait a person can have. ever wonder why most CEOs are men?

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I used to want to get married. I’d attribute it to ignorance. You get drip fed your whole life that you go to school, get a career, find a good wholesome take home to mom kind of girl, get married, make babies…it just seemed like the way things were. However as I’ve aged, I realized how f~~~ing awful that plan is…

1. Go to school – not bad in itself, I’d have done it if women didn’t exist…but all the girls you meet are interested in riding the carousel until they hook an older, established guy. Strike one for the girls for being whores.

2. Get a career – again…not bad in itself, something you’d probably do anyhow even if women didn’t exist…but soon as I started making god money I noticed an obvious increase in female attention. Strike two for the girls for being gold diggers.

3. Find a good wholesome take home to mom kind of girl – There are none these days. Strike three for girls for waiting so long to want to settle down these days that by the time they are ready guys are starting to realize they are all just whores and gold diggers. At least the ones that want to settle down after they hit the wall are good for some comical relief.

4. Get married – 50% divorce rate. Winning for a man is a 50/50 split. Men almost never win. Earlier in life I wasn’t so focused on this…I didn’t have as many assets to worry about losing, and I didn’t know as many divorced men, but the older I get the more wealth I accumulate and the more divorced men that got royally f~~~ed over I meet.

5. Make babies – I know too many men that have gotten f~~~ed over on custody rights and spanked for ridiculous amounts of child support because its simply based off your income here and not what actually needs to be spent to raise a child. Although I want kids, I’m just not convinced its worth giving any woman this much legal power over me.

I guess its not so much that I really wanted a marriage…its just I wanted pussy + kids so marriage seemed like the answer. As I progressed through life I realized I can get the pussy without the marriage and if I’m willing to bite the bullet and have kids, I can do that without marriage as well…so wtf is the point of marriage? Its a ton of liability with very little benefit…no thanks. Guess women should have tried to hook me in my early 20s when I didn’t know any better rather than spend that time making it obvious what their true nature was. Oh well…their loss, not mine!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Blue Skies wrote:

There are lots of men aged 25-35 who want to get married in the future. WHY?

I suspect that what most of them actually want is for every female and mangina around them to shut the f~~~ up and stop all the constant nagging: “When are you going to get married? When are you going to put a ring on it? When are you going to make it official?”

Most of the rest are likely trapped with an Oops! pregnancy.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

sidecar wrote:

Most of the rest are likely trapped with an Oops! pregnancy.

biggest lie that women tell men

“It’s your baby”

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10911]

I don’t think a lot of men of today desire marriage because of the information that is readily available here and over the internet. I agree with Silverstone, the religious and the conservatives still have the blinders on. I got married in the ’90’s and I would’ve loved to have access to the information on this forum. Back then most men found out AFTER they get married which is too late.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[Anonymous 42]

Why do men still desire marriage?

I have a simple answer, when it comes to the grenade thing, a man bulls~~~ts himself “it won’t happen to me” then “BOOM” it happens to him!
When comes things “NOT” happening, avoidance is the only bet when odds are IT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU!!!!

[Anonymous 29]

Silverstone the Second wrote:

It’s usually the woman who sends an ultimatum: get married or we’re over.

And with that, it’s over before it even begins.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

I wonder how much of the desire to be married comes simply from fear of being lonely. Many men don’t think they could handle being alone. They see the alternative to marriage as a commitment to loneliness. Truth be told, it often can be if a man is not comfortable on his own. For an unconnected man, growing old alone is a very real possibility.
The problem is that being married now often gets you the same result by ending in divorce or, to paraphrase Robin Williams, leaving you stuck with someone who makes you feel alone.
I don’t fear being alone. It’s my normal and customary state, even in a crowd.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

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