What's the Correct MGTOW reply to this email?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Female behavior like this to a Red Pill Man, can be seen a mile away.

5900 miles away. It’s remarkable. It’s very dangerous because women KNOW attention from women is not something too many guys enjoy. Especially when they lay it ALL out like that. And if a guy is not careful, he will drop what he is doing to respond and bend everything to stupidly fall for the first chick that says something kind to him. Women know this. Last time she was in town we “hung out” for a few days. I drove her all around in a convertible. Showed her the town. Treated her like royalty. It was fun actually, but She barely had a pulse. Responded fine but initiated nothing. Not even a story telling or conversation.

That’s what I meant a while back when I said women are like those knife-sharpening wheels with a foot pedal.
A long as you work your butt off, make effort and pump your foot, you will see some action. You might even see SPARKS!

But release your foot and it just sits there staring at the wall probably thinking it needs a new coat of paint.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[….Participant 305]

Tell her you’ve been thinking of her too…and it’s given you a raging soft on.

[GrefParticipant 203]

I cannot wait to see this play out.

So what are you gonna do? Ignore her and just see how desperate she is? F~~~ her and then let her know how stupid she was for ignoring you in the past?

 

 

[url url=http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2d6337/i_was_divorce_raped_dont_be_me] I'm paying her 25% of my salary over the next eight years. I had to pay my lawyer, her lawyer, 50% of all my retirement funds and give her another few thousand dollars to make her go away. It cost me $20 to get married and will cost me over $220,000 to get divorced. [/url]

[YouWishParticipant 36]

I can’t argue with that one chance policy. I was stupid enough to marry a chick I dumped in high school, then got massacred by a psycho. Worst decision I ever made.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

@ Key Master…My answer is contained at the bottom of my own “Crazy Ex-Botch” story.

Here’s a “Crazy Ex-Botch” trying to recontact me a several few years ago..This Chica got married to a dude she was seeing behind my back in 1995 [HYPERGAMY…I was a poor guy just finishing Graduate school and could not keep up with her BMW lifestyle so she Bounced].  They married in 1996 and had three kids.  I started Smashing Women, bought a BMW and traveled a ShietTon.  Ha-Ha Bitch.

The story picks up here 15 years later.   I just became a lawyer a few years before this….Hell Yeah Fellow MGTOWers…I went Back to school AGAIN.  No longer a Poor Smuck.  I guess she saw the Law Graduation photos on my Facebook Page.

Frucking Facebook Privacy Settings!

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September 28, 2010

Dearest “Ninja James”! My Goodness fb is a tool for connections. I have been thinking about you and if it is okay thought I could send a short message via fb to send my warmest greeting. Lovingly, “Kelly Ann”

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October 1, 2010

Hi “Aelly”:  [NINJA COMMENTARY: A simulation of a nickname I had for her.  I was a Stupid F~~~Ass.]

Hope all is well with you and your family.

Take Care.

“Ninja”

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October 4, 2010

Hi “Ninja”

Things are not okay in my family.

Need some prayers for energy and protection for me and my children.

Would it be possible for you to say prayers or as you like send us positive thoughts our way here in Liechtenstein, Europe ( been here 7 years-have 3 children, XXXXX 9 my oldest daughter, and beautiful boy and girl 7 year old twins-blessed they are all incredibly lovely children inside and out.

If at all possible would love to hear your voice directly and talk with you via skype?. I am under the name XXXXXX and I am 6 hours ahead of eastern time /or 9 hours ahead ex. California.

Never had a chance to tell you that I wanted to apologize because I was not there for you when your Grandfather  passed away [NINJA Commentary: WTF???…Grand Pops Died in 1995…why you bring this Up Crazy Girl…trying to Tug on my Heart String???! DON’T BRING MY DEAD GRANDPAPY IN THIS!!!).  And I realized how special he was for you. And that by the way, I have worked through and have a very strong relationship with my sweet mother XXXX.

Wishing you all the joy and happiness you deserve! You are a good man and noble.Wanted you to know that from all my past relationships you are the only one I felt lasting real love from during our moments together.

greetings to your brother and mother.

I hope you are happy and well.

Loving greetings,

“Kelly Ann” P.S.S. I will also keep you in my prayers if that is okay.

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NO RESPONSE FROM ME….GHOST DOGGING!!  HA-HA.

Note the dates below….

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January 6, 2011

“Ninja”…Hello, how are you?

sending you my warmest regards and thanks for who you are and for who you have been for me.

“Kelly Ann”

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July 30, 2011

“Ninja”…Cannot stop thinking about you. You are in my thoughts and prayers. I love you.

“Kelly Ann”

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September 10, 2011

Dear “Ninja”, If it is okay, I just want to hear from you. See how you have been. perhaps you are in a relationship-respect it but would love to hear how you are?

“Kelly Ann”

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October 18, 2011

Dear “Ninja”, I do not want to chase you but I just am trying to communicate. When I reached out first to you it was some years ago as I have separated and divorced for almost 6 years now. And have been trying to heal and learn from my mistakes. As I mentioned before I have always felt a loving connection with you and have believed it was mutual throughout the years for whatever that may mean now-just a warm fuzzy feeling on my part as I think of our time together in XXXX-with the boys [NINJA COMMENTARY: These At-Risk Kids that me and Kelly Ann took under our wings to mentor] and your support for me while in China … I think of you as a good person. I am now really wondering how you feel and if it truly is and has been one sided or is it mutual?. I am clear I need to let it go because at this point perhaps it doesnt matter, but I needed to give a last communication to you in this regard. And hope it makes some sense to you as we both go on our ways in the journey of our lives. loving greetings,

“Kelly Ann”

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Moral of the Story:

GHOST DOG A HOE!

[jambearParticipant 282]

ROFL!

F~~~ing Legendary Ninja F~~~ing Legendary.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@ninja Awesome exchange! And well played.

Well I let a couple days go by and decided to do a hybrid of Vile Nord and Doc’s suggestion(s).

MY RESPONSE:

“???? What a lovely message! Although you’ve had plenty of opportunity over the last 15 years to say something so kind and generous in person…. why would you tell me this NOW? Is this your first time being drunk?”

Within 15 minutes, she wrote back a little miffed.

“Oh please. It’s not like I never told you that before”.

ME: “Well no you didn’t. But you did tell me “OK I’ll go see a movie with you. But NO FUNNY STUFF!!” That, I remember clearly. That doesn’t sound like “i love you, you’re so wonderful” to me.

Now she’s getting nervous and another reply rolled in within minutes. Keep in mind, she is 1/3rd around the world and across an ocean and 1/2 a continent. How curious that when she’s being called out that I would get consecutive & almost immediate replies, when previously it would be crickets chirping when I said a couple of lovely / neutral paragraphs. Chicks who respond faster and with more enthusiasm to negatives (rather than positives) really raise a red flag with me.

… and I continued rubbing her nose in it.

“What’s with you girls when you reach a certain age? You’re not the first girl I haven’t heard from in many years suddenly behaving like I’m a long-lost lover. You’re not even the 6th. Do you girls all-of-a-sudden wake up one day, go through a mental list of every guy who was ever nice to you, and have no recollection of how you treated the guy previously…… and then tell him how hot and wonderful he is …. as if HE doesn’t even remember?”

She didn’t know what to do with that, and sound of crickets chirping followed. Every minute that passes without a word back is her telling me how right I am. If I were wrong, she would have told me I’m crazy by now and belittled in some way – or at least tried to deny it. Called it perfectly.

And I thought women always had to have the last word.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

Ha-Ha!  You used the “Shame on You Bitch” approach (“SOY-B”)!   It definitely chases off and dumbfounds many an Ex-Botch who don’t expect to be Shut the Fruck Down!

I prefer the Ghost Dog a Hoe approach (G’DAHA) over the “SOY-B” approach only because G’DAHA doesn’t allow you to provide the Crazy Ex-Botch with any rebuttal fodder she can used against you in Facebook, Twitter, emails to related friends and family or LAW ENFORCEMENT.  For example, the Ex-Botch could use your rebuttal to stage a Criminal Stalking charge alhough she was the one who initiated contact).

G’DAHA is usually Fail=Safe.

 

 

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Love love love this, KeyMaster. You crushed it. The only question I have would be “Is she intelligent and self aware enough to even realize that you are right?”

Females are so good at self-delusion… I wouldn’t be surprised if she actually believed her own bulls~~~. But I would be surprised if you got a text from her in about a week saying “After much soul searching, I have come to the conclusion that you are absolutely right. I treated you and a hundred other good men like s~~~ because I was a greedy, selfish bitch who thought she could do better. Now that I am older and realize I did not and could not have done better, I regret my actions and have been trying to reach out as a last chance to several men who I thought might be willing to take me… and I understand why you would see this as crazy, because it was. I am sorry for having wasted your time and attention, both recently and in the past.”

Said no woman ever.

[VileNordParticipant 766]

@ keymaster
All ya gotta do now is send her a link to this thread!

+ =

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

[GrefParticipant 203]

Bravo Keymaster, bravo!

There is so much justice in this thread.

[url url=http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2d6337/i_was_divorce_raped_dont_be_me] I'm paying her 25% of my salary over the next eight years. I had to pay my lawyer, her lawyer, 50% of all my retirement funds and give her another few thousand dollars to make her go away. It cost me $20 to get married and will cost me over $220,000 to get divorced. [/url]

[Krab_AssParticipant 267]

How would I reply?  I wouldn’t.  Here is why:

1. She is probably trying to give me AIDS (or another less deadly form of dick-rot).
2. She sound bats~~~ crazy.
3. She obviously wants something.
4. She ‘aint worth my time.
5. She ‘aint worth my money.
6. Why would I consider encouraging that???  It smells of trouble, death, sadness and desperation.

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

to answer this e-mail…

Tis the season to say hello….

alrighty then, hello

I love you…..

of course you do

I think of you and still trust you are hot and wonderful

that’s a given, and that’s a given

What are you doing this holiday season?

I’m currently nutsdeep in 21 y/o college cheerleader, would you like pictures?

I think it’s about time or our annual catch up

well, so long as you think you can keep up

oh yeah and one more thing…. who are you?

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I started dating/chasing women when I was a teenager. ‘Had mixed results…a few successes here and there, but no real meaningful relationships. Every so often, one that I really like would friend-zone me. At about 21, I switched my major to premed and the next 12 years were just a blur of very hard work. I got friend zoned some more during those years. I remember 6 of them over about a 15 year period that I’d really liked and was really disappointed to end up friend-zoned.

Started in private practice at age 31, and one by one, each of them recontacted and showed some renewed interest. It was like a f’cking conga line, but nothing overt. Nothing near as honest as Docfender’s sample letter above. I knew what the interest was, but I pretended to not know. I stayed solidly in that friend zone lane so as to force them to come right and say it. I didn’t make them beg, but I made them stick their necks out and ask to get romantically involved.

Then, I dropped the ax. But as usual, I was polite so they couldn’t take offense at the tone. They had to take the message without the distraction of any hostility. The one who’d taken advantage of the situation the most over the years was the first. She friend zoned me from 1985 to 2003. That’s got to be some kind of record. She’d gained about 60 or 80 pounds and had used me as an emotional tampon for at least a half dozen loser boyfriends who’d come and gone over the years…

When I finally made her ask, it was on the phone. She didn’t have the guts to ask to my face. No matter.

I let her lay all her cards on the table and then responded by saying basically that our friendship being as old as it was… was just so important to me that I didn’t want to risk it on a romantic relationship… and pointed out that during all those years that we’d been friends, all these boyfriends and girlfriends had com and gone, but yet we were still friends… Isn’t it just wonderful that our friendship has survived better than any of these romantic relationships we tried with other people…?

Now obviously, that was the single biggest load of horse s~~~ I ever unloaded on anyone in my life. And deep down, she damn well knew it. (I basically friend-zoned her back). But what could she do? I was nice. Truth was, she waited too long, gained too much weight, and showed up too far down the conga line of others like her. But she’d never been straight with me, wasn’t being straight with me at the time, and so gave me no inspiration to be straight with her.

I probably could have nailed her once or twice just to add the notch. But as you all know, it just feels more satisfying somehow to say “no” and watch that wrecking ball do its work…

keymaster, I can’t say specifically what you should do. But what I can say is that you should consider all the possible options, and choose the one that you think will be most satisfying to you…based ONLY on that criteria, and NOTHING else.

What I mean by that is that you are morally and ethically unleashed here. To a stranger, you owe the benefit of the doubt and some measure of civility. But this girl is not a stranger. You know very well what she is. She has no more concern for you now than she did before. She does not love you, does not care about you, and is not contacting you out of any concern for any need that you have. She is at best trying to use you for some easy attention and validation. At worst (and at least as likely) she is trying to close the distance between herself and your wallet.

So, if you think it would be most satisfying to you to bait her, blow some smoke up her ass, convince her she has a shot, convince her to buy a ticket and fly to your city, stay in and pay for a hotel, and then meet her there, get her naked, turn her on as much as you possibly can… and then say “no”… You have a headache… You’re not sure… If just doesn’t FEEL right… or any of that other bulls~~~ we’ve heard spew from them. Then get up, get dressed and walk out.

Even then, you would not be immoral or unethical for having done so… given what it is you know you are dealing with here.

PS Every single one of them that I turned down…married the very next guy who showed any interest in them. Every single one. They all know the ability to use pussy to get what they want will not last forever, but none of them know exactly how long it will last. The first time they offer it and are turned down, they know. They know they’ve peaked. Carousel ride is over…time to sink fangs and hold on.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[RennieParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Gentleman… In another thread, an AFC brutally confessed he was married twice and fell for the “I need time to have sex” line. I gave him a welcome to MGTOW and a little tough love with a MGTOW twist: /forums/topic/i-lost-20k-just-to-become-the-oldest-cliche/ … which got me thinking…. I got this email from a chick (just this morning!) who once kept me at arms length. She’s been using the “saving it for marriage angle” since she was 16 when I first knew her. I never fell for it, but some other sucker did. He married her and quickly learned the juice was not worth the squeeze and they split after 4 months(!). She’s 33 now, rapidly approaching the wall, and I’m guessing her eggs are drying up and she’s looking for a wallet. I have not seen her since 2008, and she is 5900 miles away. I can’t decide if it’s more infuriating or amusing; to keep a guy at arms length – and then all of a sudden, they throw themselves at you. In all the years I have known her, she never said anything like this to me. But she DID say “OK I will go to a movie with you, but no funny stuff”. So be careful boys. Eventually all the women who didn’t want to date you, or go out with you, or dance with you…. they will be back and all over you like white on rice. Make sure you don’t fall for it. One chance. Per chick. Per lifetime. No exceptions. If it were you…. how would you reply? Would you reply at all? Would you milk it at least long enough for a blowjob … and when she’s done, you kick her cat across the lawn on the way out? This is not the first time I have heard from women / exes / someone else’s wife / single moms who eventually littered my email box trying to rekindle something that was never there. Women are getting DESPERATE. Are we really to believe there is NOT ONE suitable man for her in the whole country (or continent) she lives in that she would have to write a man across an ocean who she hasn’t seen (or spoken to) in 6 years?? MGTOW, baby. It’s working.

I’m somewhat concerned that will happen to me, I know which ones they will likely be and I have prepared my defenses.

Mine would likely involve feigning being taken, and that such girl would not appreciate me talking to other women, so please don’t contact me again. Hattie protocol. 😛

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

I’ve only had one ex contact me three years ago. I told her to keep searching , that we would never again be in another relations~~~. I wish I had been red pilled then I would have like to responded something like this:

“So when we broke up you told me I wasn’t right for you. What changed with you because I didn’t. Are you done riding the c~~~ carousel now and need a financially stable base. Sorry but if I wanted to entice women with my money and assets, I can do way better than you.”

But a great response KeyMaster! It gave me a decent chuckle.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

When I break up with a chick they never come back. Once I’m done with one, she knows it and would never darken my door again. Sometimes the other chick, you know, the one in that’s already in the bedroom, get’s p~~~y about it and it’s out with her too.

I’m not nice to girls I have no intention of screwing.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 42]

Keymaster wrote:

 

F~~~ing BOOOOO is right! Her f~~~ing cob webs are spraying me like spider-man! My answer to this lost piece of s~~~: Happy ST. VALLENTOW’S day, “Click” I hang up on her ass, cause I don’t give a s~~~…….

[Krab_AssParticipant 267]

@MG-Tower:  Once again dude – you have split my sides!   I laughed so hard I almost choked on my testicle!  Had a vasectomy so those little bastards are loose in my nut sack.

 

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

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