What's the appeal in having kids?

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Fine ill give you one simple truth in this one alot of people have kids simply because they want someone to attend their funeral or be buried with/near the same with marriage. Alot of people are insecure about who would attend their funeral when they die but having kids is at least gonna have a few people remember them by something.

Assuming the kids do not grow old and disown them. However the solution in this is to really stop giving a s~~~ and start to live your life. Living life is the real way to actually get remembered by people instead of just slaving for a family in a marriage never getting to live life due to it.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[SimpleLifeParticipant 439]

Having kids can be a rewarding experience and give you a sense of accomplishment, IF they turn out good.

…and that depends on IF you have significant influence and control over the situation.

Given the way modern culture and laws are I’d say the deck is stacked against you, if you want to be a good parent. And I would not recommend anyone try it.

For example I’m very proud of my son, however it’s one of my goals to keep him from ever getting married and/or having kids because the way the world is it could end very badly for him.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

To each his own. Some people are mature enough to handle the responsibility of being a parent, and they have the financial resources to do so. I have no beef against them.

I do, however, have a problem with people who want to have a baby because “(s)he’s so cute!” These are the kind of people who think kids are some sort of accessory to their households. And some of them don’t have any sort of plan to raise their children to be good citizens or GET A JOB to pay for their expenses. A baby grows up to be an adult! Handle with care. Don’t dump the responsibility on someone else.

We’d live in a better world if everyone followed this motto:

YOUR CHILD, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

Because of the kind of society we live in, many of us MGTOWs will not experience fatherhood. There is a joy that comes from playing with kids and mentoring them. I think a substitute for fatherhood can be “unclehood.” You could babysit a sibling’s kids or become a Big Brother (for those that like kids but don’t want the full responsibility/cost of raising them). Something as simple as teaching a boy how to play baseball can be rewarding for a man.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Disney Dream Vacation Debt Nightmare and the Epcot death march in the hot sun. I had to push a wheel chair she was so fat. Get a visual on that

Damn, Stealthy. That image looks as bad as the Trail of Tears.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[TecumsehParticipant 98]

For a brief while I was a stepdad. It was VERY challenging, but I loved it and found it rewarding although the children weren’t “mine”. At the time, of course, I thought I’d be their stepdad forever, so I tried really hard to help them feel loved and to learn self-discipline and a love for education. It was really, really fun to see them progress. One of the older kids was already, perhaps “too far gone” and was unresponsive (but not hostile) to my parenting attempts. I could see in time, he would be more and more difficult. But the other kids were great. Saying goodbye to them was THE SINGLE HARDEST thing about ending my disasterous marriage, and still is.

I think one thing to keep in mind is, when you see annoying kids in the store, etc, they are like that because of their parents. If you happen to find a mate who shares your values (very difficult in this culture – THAT’s A BIG “IF” I KNOW), you can raise your kids anyway you want.

I’m NOT trying to talk you into wanting kids AT ALL. It’s just that the negatives of having kids are very well known and obvious and I thought I would share my experience including some POTENTIALLY good aspects of having kids. It’s not for everyone. At this point in my life, I have no strong desire to have kids but I would love to volunteer somewhere where I can help kids. Kids growing up in this culture are put at a disadvantage. A caring adult can make a huge difference in a child’s life. Anyway, I’m rambling, sorry.

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

Passing on your genetics and knowledge into flesh and bone that will do so proudly (if you raise the child to be proud of you and keep them away from these c~~~s and weaklings)

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

The appeal in having kids is if you can afford them and raise them well. If you do not have the economic means, dedication and planning then it will be the biggest waste of your time and something you’ll regret because the concept of the family is already being destroyed in the west so if you can’t control them then they will turn against you or end up as f~~~ ups wishing they weren’t born.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[SolidParticipant 7520]

Some people have kids to fulfil their narcissistic need of a “minime” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkmi_UTsjtE). They just feel like having a kid, they will make him/her pursue his parent dreams and accomplish that.

Just see how many fathers and mothers want that their kids “follow your father/mother footsteps”. They imagine kids as their young themselves where they would be able to fix everything that has gone wrong in their lives and make it right.

But there are several other explanations. Unhappy women usually want kids to bring some joy to the relationship and bring the couple back together, or avoid being dumped. Others don’t want to die alone, want someone there for when they are old.

Other people see is as a genetic propagation, just to reproduce so your genes will continue to exist.

Well, none of them are valid to me and I don’t want kids. But I know some people, into MGTOW, that think about having a child with a stranger and raise the kid alone. For the actual world condition, this is the wisest way to have children to my point of view

[SoldanoParticipant 108]

You guys are way too negative, asking what’s so great about having kids is kinda f~~~ed up it’s a natural function you don’t need a reason to have kids. You don’t need a reason to not havr
one either but that doesnt make having kids something terrible.

Kids are the best.
At one point in my life i wanted to give, not just think about me.

I got a baby and that’s the best thing that ever happened to me. Things are not perfect it takes a lot of work and can drive you on the edge but it’s the most beautiful thing.

Kids are kids. What is f~~~ed up is family dynamics mainly women being bitches about everything and sucking the joy our of your life, treating you as a commodity or a uber driver. But also an environment that makes raising a kid difficult and doesnt recognise the natural role family, mothers or grandparents, in education. They want women at work and grandads in expensive retirement homes.

Outsourcing your kids education is lame and shouldnt be considered normal. it is since capitalism decided that women were better off working. Because a mans salary once was taking into account raising a family. Now you need two jobs to survive and find some phillipina nanny to take care of your kids because a/ your wife wants to be independant and b/ she doesnt know s~~~ about parenting and is irresponsible

At the end of the day she works just because its cool and everything she earns doesnt even cover the nanny’s cost. So what happens ? Well you pay th nanny and she used her hard earned money for yoga classes and chanel makup while you need to stay at home with the kids. Oh and then she gets to bitch about your parenting skills despite the fact that she actually doesnt do s~~~.

Then you end up tye month with no money despite the fact that you earn what you thought was a decent salary. She wears chanel but complains you don’t earn enough to change the furniture and old carpets that cost a fraction of her shoe collection, and you end up picking up 3 used video games from the bargain bin for $8,99 and buy your clothes from target.

That right here is the problem.

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