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her girlfriends were assessing me like some accessory
It took me the better part of 35 years to figure out that women have “organizational charts” with at least two positions on them:
1) Best Friend – they need a girlfriend to bitch to/at, get p~~~y with, etc etc. at all times. This position is never left vacant.
2) Boyfriend – they need a boyfriend to show off, get validation from, etc. etc. This position is rarely left vacant, but if it is, the position will be filled in very short order.
*Who* is in these positions is less important than that *someone* is in the position at all times. Guys – we’re resources – we’re numbers on a spreadsheet. The thing that p~~~es me off the most, is that i wasted such a long time coming to this realization. I bought in to the all the “women are angels” bulls~~~ for so long!
If someone just sat me down when i was 10 years old & said “MattNYC – Women are going to use you for a lot of things. That’s just in their nature. Here’s what they bring to the table. Now you know.” Life would’ve been so much easier. Ah well, now i know.
For me it was always getting rejected for sex. It happened during my marriage and it happened before I was married. I can still hear the famous words, “You act like you never get laid.” echoing in my memory. While I was married I was going to “forgot” to get her a Valentine’s Day gift and then recite the “You act like you never get Valentines Day gifts.” but I declined though because at that point in the marriage, my testicles hadn’t dropped yet.
It doesn’t happen anymore now because I am no longer married and I don’t live with anyone. Bonus points for not having to give a f~~~ about Valentine’s Day either.Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
I married a single mom, the boy was 2 years old at the wedding. When the reception was over and it came time for the happy couple to leave for the honeymoon, while the guest threw rice, bubbles, or whatever….it was her, holding her son, with me trailing behind…like the pack mule. I saw it clearly for what it was, but convinced myself I was too sensitive, and she hadn’t realized what she had done. Plus, any discussion where you remotely imply that she needs to chose between her kid and you will never end well.
Ok. Then do it.

Anonymous0I have stories about a woman, but too recent and painful to share. I do have one about family. I remember how my mother and grandmother used me and my brothers to keep my father in line and from escaping through divorce. We were nothing but pawns. She would beat my father and deny him sex. After many months of this dad ran off and i have a half sister now. He didn’t want to lose us and his whole life. So he really stayed for many reasons. Its accurate to say in my life growing up, the experiences I had with women all lead me to conclude that they are the same. Just a different face and approach, but at its core selfishness. Don’t get me wrong, many men are like this too, but a woman gets away with so much and there is little to no accountability. Some of the red flags were she pretend to listen to us, but just did whatever she wanted unless it somehow made her position stronger. She tried to make us love her more and hate him more. It was awful to say the least. I don’t mean much to her as a son, let alone a human being. She Occasionally says she wishes I was born a daughter. She would be happier.
I’ll just leave this here:
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
In my only ‘proper’ relationship, a long distance one at that, she all of a sudden began to get so ‘busy’ with her college work (high school for US) that we ended up barely speaking and not seeing each other in person for a good few weeks or maybe even a month. When I finally asked what the hell was up she asked me to get the coach journey over to her city where she promptly broke up with me in the station.
I remember that night really well also because the coach trip home was delayed for hours due to a blizzard despite me just wanting to go home away from there.
Some good news from that story however is that on hearing I’d been broken up with, once I got back into my city my brother decided for us and a few other friends to go get drunk in the gay district. Listening to cheesy pop music and getting drunk really makes you forget about them quick!
I ended up spending all my money however and had to run back home through the same blizzard 🙂
"You can suffer from a life experience, or you can learn, move on and thrive."I’m going through a situation right now. I’m a cpa. I’ve been in public 15 years. I’ve never liked the hours and stress. I have a job now that is only 40 hours but pays a lot less. There is constant pressure from her to get a better job regardless of the impact on my happiness or health.
There are also periodic threats or discussions of divorce. I’ve told her the grass won’t be greener for her, being almost 40 single mom. I figure the simple job and reduced income will reduce court ordered payments $700 a month.
If potentially 1/3 goes to taxes, 1/3 goes to the ex and 1/3 goes to you, why strain yourself to earn a slightly above average income?
I noticed it the very first day. However, I was hoping she would grow up (she was very young) and learn to appreciate me.
Every time I would notice it – I’d rub it in her face with: “See – you’re only care about yourself.” It didn’t help. It just made her hate me moreproud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
If potentially 1/3 goes to taxes, 1/3 goes to the ex and 1/3 goes to you, why strain yourself to earn a slightly above average income
Please don’t kill yourself for some woman. Do what makes you happy.
My ex was a school-book example of the Red-pill knowledge regarding women. As I look back, I was a better man than she was a woman. Started of well and fine…in the beginning she was really the nicest and most understanding person I’ve ever met. But as it turned out, it was all a really good act, an act that became easier and easier to spot as the months and years passed on. She did not work of course, why would she, when I earned all the money working double shifts almost every single day.
Aside from the red flags already mentioned, it all took a turn for the worse when I:
1. Told her to find a job
2. Being more restrictive with my own money
3. Said “no” to get a dog
4. Said “no” to get a child
5. Wanted to spend more time with my friends and familyShortly after this she ended up cheating on me with some random bloke she met on a night out.
When looking back on this 4-year period of my life, I smile…this was female psychology on its finest, and I was able to see it firsthand with my own eyes. How better to learn the dangers of interacting with women, than to experience it, step by step yourself. Today I am a happy MGTOW-man, living life to the fullest, and never looking back on what was before. I became the man I always wanted to be, because I started to live for myself and not for a women who regard you as little more than a thing to be used….like a car…or a chair. 🙂
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal - Aristotle (384 - 322 BC)

Anonymous42There not simply flags anymore, the landscape has turned entirely RED!

– more recently, a chick stopped talking to me on my birthday because according to friends, she saw on my tablet that I had visited MGTOW.
Yeah, I tell all of my lady friends that I’m MGTOW and that I visit the website. Great time saver.
A lot of them don’t care. Drives the feminists insane.Proof that MGTOW is gaining traction if more and more people know about it. When I bring it up, most never heard of it.

Anonymous6It was when she said “starting a family will bring us closer together”

What’s remarkable to me is the change. There is nothing subtle about it, Her expression and eyes go dead, and you didn’t even do anything – or need to have a fight.
Exactly! The first time I saw/felt it it was like a stranger came into the room. The cold, resentful look in the eyes, the annoyed expression. I knew that it was over with no words needed. I had broken some rule, deviated from the script. Now I was nothing. After that I could always tell when I was being replaced, and I used it to escape. No, I’m not going to fight for you, or with you. No, I’m not going to cry and ask you to marry me. No, I’m not going to go crazy and screw up my life. You have decided I am not right for the part, so just f~~~ing go away, with any of your s~~~, cause it’s going into the dumpster along with the photographs.
Fortunately, I never moved in with them or signed away any rights or fathered any kids. I realize I had it easier than most, and I don’t claim this to have been careful planning in any way, just instinct and dumb luck.
Now when it is time to play the game, mine is the empty chair at the table."I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin
While I was married I was going to “forgot” to get her a Valentine’s Day gift and then recite the “You act like you never get Valentines Day gifts.”
Reminds of one of the testimonies from married men. One night, his wife denied him affection and said “why does it always have to be about sex? Can’t you just be content to hold me for a while?”
So he took the following day off from work and surprised her with a shopping trip. Her eyes lit up. They went to Nordstrom (or some very upscale shopping center) and he told her to try on anything she fancied. Really rubbing it in…… he said : “SURE!!! Take the shoes too. Why decide? Take BOTH pairs.”
When it was time to pay at the register, he said “OK you can put everything back now…… why does it have to be about actually BUYING it? Can’t you just be content to HOLD IT for a while????”
Epic.
No, I’m not going to fight for you, or with you. No, I’m not going to cry and ask you to marry me. No, I’m not going to go crazy and screw up my life. You have decided I am not right for the part, so just f~~~ing go away, with any of your s~~~, cause it’s going into the dumpster along with the photographs.
I have some pretty spectacular photographs with landmarks of the world. If I had a girlfriend at the time, I always made sure an extra photo was taken with just me in it. It was as if I always knew women are temporary pleasures ….. and it was only just a matter of time.
Once, a girlfriend came home after work and she s~~~ tested me with a scenario where a man in a limousine pulled up to her and propositioned her. She told me she said she had a boyfriend, and he persisted “Ok but are you HAPPY?” like a Mr.Big type character.
She waited for my reaction. I was very enthusiastic and asked “So what HAPPENED? Wy didn’t you get in and take him up on it??”
Not the response she was expecting.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.One of my ex’s was a real selfish c~~~, it’s was always about her, what she wanted to do, her f~~~ed up family, her drama at work, and of course her friends, who were using her. So I decided I had enough of this, so being a smart-ass as I am, I pulled out a Al Bundy and said:
“What was that you say, How was my day, you ask? Fine and Dandy, Please go on.
She was p~~~ed, and I made a horrible situation into a funny one, it shut her up for couple of hours.
My other ex, cheated on me, because of money,she loves money, this came from the horses mouth. But before that, for about 2 days a week, and for 6 to 7 months straight we f~~~ed, during this time(She told me I was a 9 out of 10, when it came to f~~~ing, unless she was lying, but her multiple organisms weren’t lying) and I DID NOT SPEND ONE SINGLE DIME ON HER ASS. Her current boyfriend, has to spend money on trips, for him to get pussy. Expensive. So who was the real winner here?
All during my blue pill years.Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
I have two very recent ones…
1 I recently had to pay for uber rides to and from the Harley dealer to drop my bike off for service because she was unwilling to follow me in one of the cars I provide the family and2. Just last night we had a particularly mediocre love making session. At the end she said we were “roommates with benefits”. It’s true. I pay the bills and for that she puts out weekly.
It was not my exes it was my mother that made me realize it.
Society live's as if we have reached the pinnacle of human potential. Technological Advancement and Innovation, intellectualism, critical thinking is substituted for useless innovations, nasty narcissistic games, tyrannical laws that destroy the very foundation of family, and the world as we know it.
My last ex started getting distant and I noticed her spending more time texting on her phone. I had a gut feeling she was lining up a new relations~~~.
One day I happened to look at her and she was looking back at me. She had a sneer on her face, like she was disgusted at the site of me.
I knew it was over when I saw that. Oh well, she was too expensive anyway.
I think the first time I realized how little I meant to one of my exes was about a week after we broke up. She moved in with another dude…obviously she had that dude on the line when we were still seeing each other.
That’s the part freaky part. It’s natural to “fall out of love”. But now you have a history and you’re invested, so other things take over…… and even though you’re not as GaGa over her as you once were, you bonded on some level.
She did not. And then it’s like she never did.
And THEN…. YEARS later…… out of the blue…. she tells you she still loves you. It’s whacked, I tell you.
And then this happened lol. About six months after a break up that seemed pretty mutual, I wasn’t really interested because she was way too manipulative and I think she was losing interest because I wasn’t allowing myself to be manipulated, she blew up my phone one day trying desperately to start a conversation. I didn’t bite. About a month later a mutual friend couldn’t wait to tell me how the other dude got arrested for drug possession, possessing an unregistered firearm, soliciting a prostitute, and was probably going to lose his job depending upon what actually stuck in court as his job required a clean record. When she tried to reach out to me, it wasn’t because she really missed me, or she cared, it was because the “upgrade” turned out to not exactly be an upgrade and she was desperate to not be single. Even if I got back with her it would have just been her using me just so she wasn’t alone while she was on the prowl for the next piece of meat…I still would have meant nothing to her.
It’s easy to be cruel to someone when you control the playing field. It takes character to not be that way. Many modern women tend to be severely lacking in the character area so thank feminism for that gift.
Its what makes the wall so satisfying. After they enjoy 10-15 years of controlling the field early in life, suddenly they realize they don’t control the field anymore. Its just funny how they can run their mouths all they want about how they don’t need a man, but once they hit the wall, if they are single and unwed they go completely bats~~~ crazy, where as men don’t typically run their mouths about how we don’t need women, we just go off and do our own things because we really don’t need them. Ask a 35 year old never been wed guy if he wants married and he’d probably laugh in your face…ask the same to a 35 year old never been wed woman…well you don’t even have to ask them you can sense the desperation a mile away.
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