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It’s not just “feminism” that is the problem. Feminism, is simply a symptom, of the underlying condition, known as female nature. I remember my female siblings, having their “girl locker room talk” in front of me from the time i was a young boy. The way they viewed guys, the way they talked about them like they were disposable shelf items, and never humans, disgusted me even at age ten.
This was long before they, or me, knew anything about feminism, long before it started strangling schools and the workplace. It’s important to understand, feminism, is simply female nature unchecked and unanswered. There’s no use in simply addressing a symptom, without addressing the cause.
Women have been manipulating males for thousands of years, it’s engrafted, instilled in their evolutionary genetic traits. Erasing feminism, might restore yin & yang … but gents, we were put on this planet, with something that can’t be erased. It’s as if the creator of mankind, had no intent of us getting along for longer than needed for reproduction. So for me, MGTOW is free will, to walk away from female nature, and thus walking away from feminism.
Pride And Prejudice (1813 Novel) OPENING SENTENCE: “It is a truth universally acknowledged that a man of great fortune MUST BE IN WANT OF A WIFE.”
Once a Man UNDERSTANDS what he’s Dealing with (IE: female Nature), and how to Interpret Female Behavior/Actions then He can Choose at what level, and How He Wants to Interact with any Given Women.
It also helps to REALIZE that ALL Women Essentially are Bat S~~~ Crazy even though SOME can Hide it Better and for longer then Others.
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It’s not just “feminism” that is the problem. Feminism, is simply a symptom, of the underlying condition, known as female nature.
No. It is you whom does not understand. Feminism is manufactured by organizations to make women the worst they can be in an effort to tear down western civilization.
It’s not just “feminism” that is the problem. Feminism, is simply a symptom, of the underlying condition, known as female nature.
No. It is you whom does not understand. Feminism is manufactured by organizations to make women the worst they can be in an effort to tear down western civilization.
Throughout History, Men Managed Female Nature, and Built Empires !!
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What many men don’t understand………………………………………….
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Great reminder and total truth. Feminism just unchained and normalized female behavior.
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It’s not just “feminism” that is the problem. Feminism, is simply a symptom, of the underlying condition, known as female nature.
No. It is you whom does not understand. Feminism is manufactured by organizations to make women the worst they can be in an effort to tear down western civilization.
Hmmm, so what is Women at their best Faust?
He who is Brave is Free - Seneca
Feminism just unchained and normalized female behavior.
I am not sure you are commenting if you believe feminism is passive.
It depends on how you view the word, “unchained”. I am not sure. And I am not stating you believe this is a “passive” meaning word.
I believe feminism actively encourages that women give into the worst parts of their personalities.
Hmmm, so what is Women at their best Faust?
A good question.
A woman whom takes responsibility for their personal actions.
Given how corrupted women are today. You rarely see this in women and mostly in post-wall women whom are forced to take a good hard look at themselves. And even then, most post-wall women miss this revelation and they still blame others instead of accepting responsibility for their actions.
Hmmm, so what is Women at their best Faust?
A good question.A woman whom takes responsibility for their personal actions.
Given how corrupted women are today. You rarely see this in women and mostly in post-wall women whom are forced to take a good hard look at themselves. And even then, most post-wall women miss this revelation and they still blame others instead of accepting responsibility for their actions.
Hmmm, but respectively that seems like an impossible prospect for a woman. Responsibility requires rationality, ergo choosing the Superego over the id.
Men are more predisposed to rationality than women, as such take away Men holding Women responsible for their actions and you end up with Feminism, Debt, etc.
Responsibility implies holding off your impulses to prevent long term negative consequences. It is Higher thinking.
In fact it’s almost as if Women are biologically designed to S~~~ Test men until they find one who reigns in their impulses
He who is Brave is Free - Seneca
It’s not just “feminism” that is the problem. Feminism, is simply a symptom, of the underlying condition, known as female nature.
No. It is you whom does not understand. Feminism is manufactured by organizations to make women the worst they can be in an effort to tear down western civilization.
I think feminism is a little of both. Feminism caters to female nature BUT it has been extensively supported by Marxists and a lot of cross-pollination has occurred between Marxism, feminism and various Left-wing ideologies.
Feminism destroys families, and that is what socialists want: government replacing husbands as financial support for women. Note I said HUSBANDS and not MEN. Men still are financial support for women, via taxation. Making as many people dependent on government socialism may seem counterproductive to Big Money Globalists, but it is not, once you understand Crony Capitalism (as opposed to Market Capitalism). Crony capitalism controls government via campaign contributions, and the people are controlled via mass media.
The goal is a globalist oligarchy ruling over everyone, and the modern bread and circuses are socialism and mass media.
Nationalism, a healthy middle class, and intact families are in opposition to that goal.
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All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Feminism is a symptom of cultural marxism. Women’s nature may be inclined towards irrationality and hypergamy, but they fall for feminism because they are insecure and gullible. Can’t destroy a nation? Destroy it’s women thereby it’s families, it’s children, men and all else.
It’s not just “feminism” that is the problem. Feminism, is simply a symptom, of the underlying condition, known as female nature.
No. It is you whom does not understand. Feminism is manufactured by organizations to make women the worst they can be in an effort to tear down western civilization.
I wonder what organizations manufactured feminism in every ancient civilization and empire where it took place, such as in ancient rome, shortly before it collapsed. You can blame “organizations” if you like, but that’s excusing their behaviors, by saying “oh it’s not in their nature to be this way, they’ve just been misguided” … but thousands of years of history says otherwise.
It’s not just “feminism” that is the problem. Feminism, is simply a symptom, of the underlying condition, known as female nature.
No. It is you whom does not understand. Feminism is manufactured by organizations to make women the worst they can be in an effort to tear down western civilization.
I wonder what organizations manufactured feminism in every ancient civilization and empire where it took place, such as in ancient rome, shortly before it collapsed. You can blame “organizations” if you like, but that’s excusing their behaviors, by saying “oh it’s not in their nature to be this way, they’ve just been misguided” … but thousands of years of history says otherwise.
That is a good point, but history may also have an answer to your question. If you consider modern feminism, it is basically supported by technology and energy. The energy “genie” does for a woman the work of many men. For example, driving a car (horsepowers). Without hardship in life, people (especially women) become obsessed with trinkets and other eccentricities.
The Roman Seneca felt that true progress is an illusion, since advancements in invention promote deterioration by ministering to luxury and vice. Ministering to luxury and vice directly appeals to female nature. Feedback loops develop between invention and female nature, resulting in more effort going into appeasing females. Combine that with increased complexity (an issue covered in Jared Diamond’s book “Collapse”), and you have repeated civilizations collapsing.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
I believe women are inherintly selfish. Feminism has given them control.
Give a selfish c~~~ control and you have todays modern c~~~s.
"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher
This seems to be a recurring point of contention within the MGTOW community.
Us older guys, who actually lived during a time when feminism wasn’t the driving social force, before no fault divorce came into play as the easy get rich free scheme for women will say: “It wasn’t always like this. Women were not as bad as they are today. Many men enjoyed stable homelifes and marriages with supporting wives, and women kept their hypergamy under check. Women tried to be of value to a man.. until feminism took over.”
Immediately the young guys who were not even alive during this time period will come in to tell you how stupid you are, how it has always been like this, because women have always been the way they are now.
Ummm… ok. You don’t want to believe the men who are old enough to have seen it…
So why was marriage the norm, and the societies were based around this concept, and only now are men saying en mass “f~~~ this”?
Without feminism, most women were manageable. FEMINISM is what caused this problem.
Today is a strange day. In another thread we have a kid telling us how porn is the problem. Without porn, men wouldn’t get all worked up and desire women, and we would have no simps. Completely ignoring how men are programmed to desire women and porn is only a recent development in human history that can serve as a replacement or tamper to that desire.
Sometimes it helps to test your thesis with historical facts:
How were things before feminism? Did men hate marriage and opt out? Most men stayed happily married, hmmm maybe things were different and it is feminism.How were things before porn? Did men even desire women before porn? They did desire women and go to great lengths to obtain sex with them, hmmm maybe it isn’t porn that makes men desire women.
That’s a good argument.
I’d add to it that a possible explanation is that behavior depends not just on genetics (nature) but also on education; on top of that, it is influenced by the behavior of others around you.
Women are a lot like children. With proper education and a good environment, most will be likable, though not perfect. While some will behave badly no matter what you do.
But let them do anything they want with little to no punishment, while inflating their egos with false praise, and in no time the little angels will turn into a bunch of brats with no respect for anyone or anything.
A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)
Excellent point @Opt Out. Feminism is just the embodiment and legitimization of their inbred misandry. If even young girls think they are above the boys they know then the whole system is out of whack long before they reach college and shave one side of their head and dye their hair a color that only exists in tropical forests and laboratories, double in mass, and taste their first vagina.
The answer will always be the same. Give them nothing, because since your penis was just a nub they have hated you.
They hate you because they need men, but you don’t need them. A man can be a man without a woman, but a woman is just an empty overturned vessel without a man to fill it.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
Pride And Prejudice (1813 Novel) OPENING SENTENCE: “It is a truth universally acknowledged that a man of great fortune MUST BE IN WANT OF A WIFE.”
I remember that book in school – and the movie.
… except it’s not universally acknowledged. It’s only socially presumed. (That’s the “pride” part ). And then women are shocked when they learn the opposite is true.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-09-27/deep-thoughts-with-the-homeless-billionaire
He doesn’t even need to be a man of great fortune and it’s still presumed.
How many times have you had this kind of confrontation?••••
Feminism/feminists is invisible to me in my personal & professional life. Never tolerate any fragment of it. It’s just a symptom & byproduct of female nature that’s palpable everywhere.
The way they viewed guys, the way they talked about them like they were disposable shelf items, and never humans, disgusted me even at age ten.
Same observations here. It’s unimaginable, really, and I have listened to many female conversations through the walls. Today they are unashamed and don’t even have the tact to do it private. It’s broadcast on daytime TV talk shows and everywhere else.
But nature has a terrific way of restoring the balance.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.This seems to be a recurring point of contention within the MGTOW community.
Us older guys, who actually lived during a time when feminism wasn’t the driving social force, before no fault divorce came into play as the easy get rich free scheme for women will say: “It wasn’t always like this. Women were not as bad as they are today. Many men enjoyed stable homelifes and marriages with supporting wives, and women kept their hypergamy under check. Women tried to be of value to a man.. until feminism took over.”
Immediately the young guys who were not even alive during this time period will come in to tell you how stupid you are, how it has always been like this, because women have always been the way they are now.
Ummm… ok. You don’t want to believe the men who are old enough to have seen it…
So why was marriage the norm, and the societies were based around this concept, and only now are men saying en mass “f~~~ this”?
Without feminism, most women were manageable. FEMINISM is what caused this problem.
Today is a strange day. In another thread we have a kid telling us how porn is the problem. Without porn, men wouldn’t get all worked up and desire women, and we would have no simps. Completely ignoring how men are programmed to desire women and porn is only a recent development in human history that can serve as a replacement or tamper to that desire.
Sometimes it helps to test your thesis with historical facts:
How were things before feminism? Did men hate marriage and opt out? Most men stayed happily married, hmmm maybe things were different and it is feminism.How were things before porn? Did men even desire women before porn? They did desire women and go to great lengths to obtain sex with them, hmmm maybe it isn’t porn that makes men desire women.
Nope, female nature create feminism. If there are not feminism there will be girlism or egalitarian or something like that that promote female superiority in the guise of equality.
Feminism that you blame is just the product of female nature.Also the marriage contract is a new thing. It just become common in the 19 century.
http://www.livescience.com/37777-history-of-marriage.html
Feminism will just be a minor nuisance if there is no Gruzzz, the ultimate barbarian with nukes and guns robbing men when a women call upon him.
All women can join feminism and men will still happily marry them because they can walk away if the women don’t behave. With women marrying Gruzzz and fooling their men to sign a slave contract with Gruzzz, we have this problem.
Even without feminism, they will be tradconism and they will be appealing to Gruzzz to rob the men. Then you will be complaining about tradconism today.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
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