What makes a mother give up her son?

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

As an adopted child I often wondered, what makes a mother give up her son? What logic made her decide it was better to give away her child than struggle to bring him up? I guess I should be happy that I wasn’t aborted, but it always nags at me that I wasn’t good enough to keep. Was I so disposable right from the get go? did she ratioalise that I would be better off with a more stable family? I thought a mother’s love for her child was the most powerful love, but is that a lie as well, if it became a hinderance to her own future success? I thought they were supposed to be the caring Nuturing sex, but is that only when it suits them?

It's Time to get Wise

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

People make too much of an assumption that a planned pregnancy has any more weight than an unplanned one, a “natural child” vs adopted.

People teach that there is a difference, and that one means more than the other, when in reality, they both mean nothing, or the same.

It’s mainly because women like rubbing the fact that they are pregnant in other women’s faces. They are the main ones saying “HAHA you can’t have kids naturally, I’m better than you!”, causing this sort of thinking to begin with- that adoption or being adopted is somehow less in measure than not.

Point is, it doesn’t matter.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Anonymous 54]

I am not adopted, but had an abusive violent mother.
I look at it like this.

Sometimes in nature an offspring is abandonded. A cat that wont feed one of its kittens.A mother bird will push one baby bird out of the nest.

Part of the balance of nature.

Be the bird that survives anyways!!!!!

Make it a strength you posses.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Greg Honda wrote:

I thought a mother’s love for her child was the most powerful love, but is that a lie as well, if it became a hinderance to her own future success? I thought they were supposed to be the caring Nuturing sex, but is that only when it suits them?

In all these years that was the reason I saw. Babies come at an unwanted moment in a woman’s life and this shatters her career plans. But one more heavy aspect is the pressure of her parents not wanting to have a “non marital child” as their grandchild.

Most of the times, women want to keep their babies and then the pride and the fear for loss of “family reputation” make the parents put pressure on her to “get rid of the problem”.

This is what I saw way more often than women deciding for themselves to abandon a child.

So the stakes are high that your mother gave you up under pressure from her parents.

Like “If you keep that xxxx and our family will live in shame, then we’ll kick you out of the house”. Or they threaten the woman with all kinds of repercussions if she keeps her baby.

This is what I saw in over 40 years and 1000’s of customers. And many of these old families were “very strict”, religious and absolutely intolerant towards any “unwanted baby” that doesn’t have a father and “a real name”.

So your mother might not be the problem.

I’ve seen girls cry over their parents’ orders and threats.

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[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Well said, Sage.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Thank you for your replies. @ Gargamel In that case I despise the families. Did they so fear censure from the church or neighbours that they would discard their own blood? They keep their dirty secrets hidden away and then parade around the village as upstanding citizems? I spit on them.

It's Time to get Wise

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

Women are hard wired to care for offspring and have this as their primary role in life, so if this rule gets overwritten, there has to be something seriously wrong either in her psyhe or in her environment for her to evaluate that child is better off without her.

Ultimately i think that if they give up their child they somehow hamster that they are making this for childs good. But this is just my theory.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

My friend, I don’t know.

But there are as many “good” reasons as there are bad reasons.

I know there is no good answer.

I know this doesn’t help. You could spend a lot of money and track her down but you may not like the answer, but it might give you closure.

It is a tough thing, there are so many ifs or maybes.

Yours is truly a tough situation.

Thank you for sharing.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 42]

Greg Honda wrote:

I guess I should be happy that I wasn’t aborted, but it always nags at me that I wasn’t good enough to keep.

Hey Greg, it doesn’t matter why, you’re your own person and anything that happened outside your control should be put out of your mind, contemplating the “why” this person did this, or that person did that, is an exorcise in futility and a waste of thought.

This philosophy is the one train of thought that got me over chicks and to not tolerate their s~~~ tests. I was never one to beg a woman to be un-f~~~ed-up, I just swallowed the pill that they were f~~~ed up and I walked away without looking back.

Jesus man, you’re a human being, no less value than any other, think of yourself as #1 and always be looking forward with optimism and not backwards with pessimism or resentment, just let it be, its a matter of letting ghosts sleep so they don’t haunt you.

[Anonymous 54]

Well Said Gargamel.

[Anonymous 54]

The fact of the matter is that you may never know.
Just say I dont know and leave it at that. It is in fact the reality.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Greg Honda wrote:

Thank you for your replies. @ Gargamel In that case I despise the families. Did they so fear censure from the church or neighbours that they would discard their own blood? They keep their dirty secrets hidden away and then parade around the village as upstanding citizems? I spit on them.

I’ve seen families in small villages that were highly dependent on the validation of the village hive. And this happend most often in “deep black” catholic social circles.

But Greg, you had it good.

Life’s been good to you so far… (Quoting Joe Walsh)

If you had been given to a chidren’s home then your story would have turned out way worse. And that happened even to children that still had their parents.

Sometimes the government took these kids away over almost nothing.

I was one of them but still lucky. It hit me in 1976, one year after the reformation of the children’s homes, forbidding extreme violence:

Part of this thread is how women with power over children f~~~ed them up completely:

/forums/topic/the-women-that-kill-abuse-and-torture-and-how-they-abuse-power/

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[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

My ‘Real’ mum left me when I was 2 and my sister was only 7 months. We were mostly looked after by my grandparents, while Dad worked. He married a year later and I’ve always regarded her as my mum.
My real mum was a club singer in the UK during the 60’s. She decided to persue this and left my dad and her children and moved to the US. My sister and I were oblivious to this until our late teens. I spoke to her on the phone for 30 minutes when I was 19 and not once did she ask a single thing about me or my sister. I found my answer, pure selfishness and vowed to never meet her. My sister visited once, never again and didn’t speak too much about it. She did mention an abandoned night out with mum’s friends, as my sister was ordered to not say she was her daughter. Apparently the 17 years she had been in the US she never mentioned she had children. We didn’t really matter.
Greg. You can’t rationalize these types of decisions as though you were at fault in any way. You were a victim of circumstance, whatever that may have been.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

[experiencedParticipant]

Gargamel wrote:

Greg Honda wrote:

I thought a mother’s love for her child was the most powerful love, but is that a lie as well, if it became a hinderance to her own future success? I thought they were supposed to be the caring Nuturing sex, but is that only when it suits them?

In all these years that was the reason I saw. Babies come at an unwanted moment in a woman’s life and this shatters her career plans. But one more heavy aspect is the pressure of her parents not wanting to have a “non marital child” as their grandchild.

Most of the times, women want to keep their babies and then the pride and the fear for loss of “family reputation” make the parents put pressure on her to “get rid of the problem”.

This is what I saw way more often than women deciding for themselves to abandon a child.

So the stakes are high that your mother gave you up under pressure from her parents.

Like “If you keep that xxxx and our family will live in shame, then we’ll kick you out of the house”. Or they threaten the woman with all kinds of repercussions if she keeps her baby.

This is what I saw in over 40 years and 1000’s of customers. And many of these old families were “very strict”, religious and absolutely intolerant towards any “unwanted baby” that doesn’t have a father and “a real name”.

So your mother might not be the problem.

I’ve seen girls cry over their parents’ orders and threats.

The REAL reason here is that the older mom does not want to share resources with the new child.
Old women are more shrewd at accountanting than anyone would guess.
They want to be hailed as “Mother Queen Martyr’ when it’s a closed equation and the laudatories go to praising themselves.
They will take something that others correctly view as a blessing, and play it out as more sufferin’ as well.
When they paint their version oil portrait view verbally, it’s wise to search it out regarding what benefits whom and what has been intentionally omitted to benefit guess who.

Take heart in the fact that it’s not you who had a role in the decision. With women, it’s only about THEMSELVES.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 54]

@666. I have met many singers who have left their Husbands and children behind to “chase the dream”. It still stuns me to think about it

Im sorry Man Im really sorry.

Im glad you had your StepMother!

[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

Anonymous wrote:

@666. I have met many singers who have left their Husbands and children behind to “chase the dream”. It still stuns me to think about it

Im sorry Man Im really sorry.

Im glad you had your StepMother!

Thanks OS. I believe I was far better off to be honest. Who’d want that as a Mother. I’m lucky I suppose that I had no memory of her as a toddler growing up.
It’s different for people in Greg’s position when you don’t know why at all. You often hear women say they did something because it was best for the kids. I’ve never believed this. They did what was best for them and shamefully used their kids to justify their bad decision.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Greg Honda wrote:

I guess I should be happy that I wasn’t aborted, but it always nags at me that I wasn’t good enough to keep. Was I so disposable right from the get go?

Stop worrying, Greg.

You were good enough for your step-parents to keep you. If you would have been “not good enough” then your step-parents wouldn’t have wanted you.

They kept you because they wanted you.

They took you in voluntarily.

And that means a lot.

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[Anonymous 54]

Bestieboy666 wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

@666. I have met many singers who have left their Husbands and children behind to “chase the dream”. It still stuns me to think about it

Im sorry Man Im really sorry.

Im glad you had your StepMother!

Thanks OS. I believe I was far better off to be honest. Who’d want that as a Mother. I’m lucky I suppose that I had no memory of her as a toddler growing up.
It’s different for people in Greg’s position when you don’t know why at all. You often hear women say they did something because it was best for the kids. I’ve never believed this. They did what was best for them and shamefully used their kids to justify their bad decision.

Brother this is a moment for me. Ive played demo sessions were the client was one of these women.To say my heart wasnt in it would be an understatement. It would bother me more than I could ever express.

And now to speak to a Man who was one of these children left behind….

You deserved better.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Gargamel wrote:

Greg Honda wrote:

I guess I should be happy that I wasn’t aborted, but it always nags at me that I wasn’t good enough to keep. Was I so disposable right from the get go?

Stop worrying, Greg.

You were good enough for your step-parents to keep you. If you would have been “not good enough” then your step-parents wouldn’t have wanted you.

They kept you because they wanted you.

They took you in voluntarily.

And that means a lot.

I agree with this.

Greg, forgot about that woman, your parents now are your true parents.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Anonymous 54]

Family doesnt have to be blood.

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