What Compelled You To Go MGTOW?

[NoMoreParticipant 1233]

I had intermittent warnings through college and adult life. Various s~~~ tests and unfaithful girlfriends. None of it registered until I got married.

Suddenly, we needed a huge house, which we built. I would look at our savings and wonder how little we had, despite my income and frugal spending. Somehow, I managed to be labeled a POS despite hiring a maid, doing all yard work, paying all bills, and putting our family into a nice house. It was unending verbal and emotional abuse.

I filed for divorce and she asked if I was going to become,’one of those MGTOWS?’ I looked it up and realized I agreed with many of the points they made and had experienced similar situations.

What has cemented my belief in MGTOW, is the lawless and capricious nature of family court. For 16 months, I paid the mortgage on the house for her and our kid to have a stable home. I paid all the bills on the house as I hoped to take ownership after all was said and done. I endured her constant reniging on custody to fit her schedule. I offered her half of everything to settle the divorc.

We went to court and I learned a few things. If you are male and have a good job, they hate you. The judge sided with her on nearly everything she asked for. I gave her half of our money in the bank. I offered half the equity in the house plus half of the difference of an appraisal. The judge decided he would just take her word on how much she wanted and award it to her. The judge also sated that since I have such a high income, that the usual method for determining child support doesn’t apply. I am paying her more than the average yearly income in child support. She could not work for the next 14 years and still have middle class income.

This is why I go MGTOW. No matter how fair you treat her, the rules are set up to screw you. She teared up over how I didn’t go on a family vacation, but neglected to mention that my job does not allow me to take 10 days off over Christmas break on short notice.

If you play the game, you will lose.

A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

What men need to learn (in my opinion) is to learn to use the word “no” and to use it often. Women want a man that is in control and not a pushover. If you work your ass off trying to please her you are wasting time and energy. She wants to go on that Cruise? Unless you want to go anyway the answer is NO!! She wants a new car tell her to make the money to buy it herself plus pay for the insurance and all other associated costs. She wants the kitchen remodeled? Tell her it is fine the way it is. If you want happiness in your life it doesn’t hurt to make her happy. She is not happy unless you take charge and take control. That is what she wants. Almost anything else is s~~~ testing to see what she can get away with. If you fall for her s~~~ testing you will fail. If you are working and she is not then tell her to do the yard work. She will do it if she wants your attention. You can’t just ignore them either. Women are like children and dogs, they require a lot of attention. Give the attention but do it as a reward for something. If she makes your favorite meal give her attention. If you have to do the yardwork be too tired to give her attention. Frankly and briefly, take control, be in charge. If she wants drama take her to a movie. Give rewards for being a good wife and some type of punishment for not being one. Punishment can be ignoring her and reward can be getting that one little item she wants AFTER she has done something for you. I read on here about guys practically killing themselves trying to please their wives. STOP doing it!! I also read on here about women with a SO chasing after bad boys. That is because these guys just use women and then dump them. Women see these guys as a challenge, they think they can make decent guys out of them. But if they were to succeed in changing these guys the woman will dump them quickly. The amusing part is when those bad boys dump the women. The women are surprised and humiliated and sometimes they feel shame. So the trick is to be the bad boy that gets the vagina tingling. Good Luck.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Divorce.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

743 roadmaster wrote:

Divorce.

That advice is for the hardcore blue-pillers. It is for those who think pussy is the beginning and the end of all things and refuse to give it up. Not getting married in the first place, not having a LTR and avoiding (if at all possible) female co-workers and any other non-related females is the best advice.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[Fundamental_manParticipant 209]

Maraudrz1 wrote:

What men need to learn (in my opinion) is to learn to use the word “no” and to use it often. Women want a man that is in control and not a pushover. If you work your ass off trying to please her you are wasting time and energy. She wants to go on that Cruise? Unless you want to go anyway the answer is NO!! She wants a new car tell her to make the money to buy it herself plus pay for the insurance and all other associated costs. She wants the kitchen remodeled? Tell her it is fine the way it is. If you want happiness in your life it doesn’t hurt to make her happy. She is not happy unless you take charge and take control. That is what she wants. Almost anything else is s~~~ testing to see what she can get away with. If you fall for her s~~~ testing you will fail. If you are working and she is not then tell her to do the yard work. She will do it if she wants your attention. You can’t just ignore them either. Women are like children and dogs, they require a lot of attention. Give the attention but do it as a reward for something. If she makes your favorite meal give her attention. If you have to do the yardwork be too tired to give her attention. Frankly and briefly, take control, be in charge. If she wants drama take her to a movie. Give rewards for being a good wife and some type of punishment for not being one. Punishment can be ignoring her and reward can be getting that one little item she wants AFTER she has done something for you. I read on here about guys practically killing themselves trying to please their wives. STOP doing it!! I also read on here about women with a SO chasing after bad boys. That is because these guys just use women and then dump them. Women see these guys as a challenge, they think they can make decent guys out of them. But if they were to succeed in changing these guys the woman will dump them quickly. The amusing part is when those bad boys dump the women. The women are surprised and humiliated and sometimes they feel shame. So the trick is to be the bad boy that gets the vagina tingling. Good Luck.

Yep. Probably true, and definitely nuts…
It is like living with an eternal teenager that never grows up. They just seem to remain that way through life. Mood swings, aggression, drama, betrayal, back stabbing, greed, laziness, s~~~ testing and so on. No honest man should have to put up with that…

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I think the guy the made that VVitch movie made The Lighthouse. In theatres now. Just saw it. Oh my! Gentlemen, that is film blessing two of the year. First Ad Astra was gifted to us, but The Lighthouse is DIVINE. It will blind you with its beauty.

[AutoliteParticipant]

RayBandaku wrote:

What are your compelling reasons why you chose to go your own way?

Nearly thirty years ago I was blindsided in a really bad break-up. It opened my eyes. I figured that if a woman can just walk away so easily without any warning or discussion then marriage was definitely and permanently off the table.

That was my first step down the path to MGTOW monk mode that I am in today. Everything I’ve experienced, observed and learned in the past thirty years just reinforces my decision to go and remain MGTOW…

[Branched offParticipant 10926]

I think the big one is divorce. Until you stand in a divorce court and watch the efforts you made in the past and those you will in future being taken away, you seldom realise how bad it is. You struggled and scrimped and saved for your family’s future while she complained you did not give her enough. All the while you only denied her so that you could make the family secure against a rainy day and then the judge takes all that work and gives it to her to blow on nonsense like cars and holidays. I worked out that my ex wife (who never did a day of work from the day she married me) was paid £22 an hour for over 5 years (and this was in the early 2000s. She was paid £22/hour even in her sleep just for having been my wife. What did she actually do for me? She didn’t cook breakfast or lunch, she cooked me one poor quality meal a day and that on a weekly rotation, same meals every week for years. Oh and sex was limited to 3 times a week, no foreplay allowed. So how much could I have saved by going out for dinner every night and hiring cheap whores? If I had done it on the cheap back in those days I would have saved at least 22 hours in the day of her “pay” but if I had actually had the choice to spend it one whores and eating out, I would have said that was a total waste itself.

That was the big one. A relationship that followed where I played beta cuck to a beautiful woman who just wanted to make money by secretly shagging old men and denying it while having my devoted attention was enough to seal the deal. I was compelled to view women differently and to take care of myself first. I had women and more children after that but from that time, I was “playing strategically” and once I had won (got more children for little cost) I came to see that actually there was no longer anything a woman could do for me that I could not do for myself. They became redundant.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[AutoliteParticipant]

Branched off wrote:

I think the big one is divorce. Until you stand in a divorce court and watch the efforts you made in the past and those you will in future being taken away, you seldom realise how bad it is.

I was talking a few days ago with a guy I had just met. He brought up the subject of his current ongoing divorce so I gave him a sympathetic ear. He told me what it has cost him so far and it is nowhere near what she is demanding. Basically he is being financially eviscerated and he has no idea how he will ever earn what he is being expected to pay.

I asked him if he knew what his liabilities would be before he got married. He wouldn’t answer. This got me curious. Did he really not understand what he was getting into or was he just too embarrassed to admit that he didn’t think that ‘it would ever happen to him’?

If I had to guess I would say that it is unlikely that he was unaware of the risk. How could he possibly not know with divorce being so common? How can it be that today there are guys who really do not understand what a woman can do to them in a divorce???

[Branched offParticipant 10926]

Autolite wrote:

Branched off wrote:

I think the big one is divorce. Until you stand in a divorce court and watch the efforts you made in the past and those you will in future being taken away, you seldom realise how bad it is.

I was talking a few days ago with a guy I had just met. He brought up the subject of his current ongoing divorce so I gave him a sympathetic ear. He told me what it has cost him so far and it is nowhere near what she is demanding. Basically he is being financially eviscerated and he has no idea how he will ever earn what he is being expected to pay.
I asked him if he knew what his liabilities would be before he got married. He wouldn’t answer. This got me curious. Did he really not understand what he was getting into or was he just too embarrassed to admit that he didn’t think that ‘it would ever happen to him’?
If I had to guess I would say that it is unlikely that he was unaware of the risk. How could he possibly not know with divorce being so common? How can it be that today there are guys who really do not understand what a woman can do to them in a divorce???

What you are saying makes perfect sense autolite but men keep being dumb. I was too so I know its true. I think it probably comes form two fronts:

One is the one that will be hardest to cure -you trust her. It will take a huge cultural shift for men to stop viewing women as trustworthy and view them as more duplicitous than men (which up until the Victorians was generally how they were viewed throughout all history). My ex wife actually promised me that if I agreed to marry her she would never take a penny form me in divorce. I said “lets get a pre-nup” (not legal in the UK but “can be helpful” lawyers say -for what a lawyer’s words are worth). She said that if I asked her to do that I would not really love her and I had to trust her promise and I at 27 years of age I decided to “trust love” (cringe). I forget how she justified her change of heart but it happened.

The other is actual general ignorance -you know men get divorce raped but actually I did not think all men got divorce raped and I did not know the split was 50:50 (or in fact 65:35 as my local divorce court in a libtard town decided off its own bat to do and somehow it was allowed). They teach you about STDs and pregnancy at school but honestly I don’t see how even HIV with all the modern drugs would be as life destroying as a really bad divorce rape. They just don’t teach you about divorce rape and when you are a kid none of your friends are getting divorced, when you are a young man your blue pill friends are competing to get married first and be the most successful in blue pillness. When you are family man (or at least in your 30’s if you have somehow escaped women that long), then several of your friends start to get divorce raped but then its too late. I am not some ignorant hill billy. I was educated at a good private school (full of libtards) and at the british equivalent of an Ivy league university (full of libtards too), where I came top in my year on my course and I still had no idea how serious a signature on a marriage contract was.

One thing MGTOW and this site can do is educate young men. They need it.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[BachelorlifestyleParticipant 291]

When she looked me in my eyes and told me she was a attention whore! After all this time together the mask fell all the way off

Me first

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2727]

Like others have said, divorce is reason I went my own way. There is no stronger red pill.

Since I am a slow learner, I had to do it twice. My first divorce was ground-zero, shock and awe affair. Trouble is my blue-pill programming told me I just picked the wrong pumpkin.

Second divorce was to a proto-typical predatory female. Chameleon when dating, complete bitch who spent me dry when married.

My third was a co-habitation parasite. At that point the red pill was taking affect. I started to realize I had been fed lies about women and marriage. Thank gawd I found this site. Saved me from a third divorce. After 6 years, the third (my unicorn) showed me that AWALT.

Now I consider myself a MGHOW. I am single and master of my home and future. As I happily sit outside next to a roaring fire drinking bourbon and smoking a cigar, it is obvious why the gyno-culture doesn’t want you to know the truth about women because men would never get married!

I finally have peace and contentment.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

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