Were the moon landings faked

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

Anonymous wrote:

^^^^He deserved it, what those guys did was far from being cowards, nobody ever felt further from the comfort of home than those guys! NO ONE!

I agree 100%

[Anonymous 54]

Anonymous wrote:

Twist wrote:

Kennedy put a man on the moon, but it took Obama to put a man in the ladies’ room.

He also scrapped the space shuttle and ended our ability to launch men into space, now we bum a ride from the Russians.

Witch makes him the biggest peice of s~~~ in our history.

If you look at the history of great nations, there are two things preasnt. Great art and Exploration.

He gave away are greatness with this.
I makes me so mad I dont have words.

Instead of wanting to lead a Nation, showing their Daring, Bravery Boldness, to go where no Man has gone before..
Hed rather worry about where his weirdo wife gos to the bathroom..

Sure come take me away in the middle of the night.

NFG

[RennieParticipant]

No. The technology involved with the Apollo missions is real and it worked.

Even saw the Columbia(Apollo 11) command module myself and other pieces of the technology involved and have been to the KSC in Florida, where they have a very large exhibit on the Saturn V program.

The reason they didn’t go back, they just couldn’t justify the cost involved in going there and after a few missions, the public lost interest, so there was little point to continuing.

It’sallbs wrote:

The space shuttle was faked as well it has jet engines.

…And how do jet engines work outside earths atmosphere, Mr Heisenberg?

The space shuttle does not have jet engines either, it only has 3 main rocket engines and RCS thrusters. The main engines are not used beyond the initial launch.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I think it was faked. If they really landed on the moon, then why don’t they go there again?

I heard that NASA has been having trouble scrapping together the money for gas…

[WPLParticipant 2390]

Rennie wrote:

No. The technology involved with the Apollo missions is real and it worked.

Even saw the Columbia(Apollo 11) command module myself and other pieces of the technology involved and have been to the KSC in Florida, where they have a very large exhibit on the Saturn V program.

The reason they didn’t go back, is the massive cost involved in going there and after a few missions, the public lost interest, so there was little point to continuing.

It’sallbs wrote:

The space shuttle was faked as well it has jet engines.

…And how do jet engines work outside earths atmosphere, Mr Heisenberg?

I know that you were referring to the

Rennie wrote:

No. The technology involved with the Apollo missions is real and it worked.

Even saw the Columbia(Apollo 11) command module myself and other pieces of the technology involved and have been to the KSC in Florida, where they have a very large exhibit on the Saturn V program.

The reason they didn’t go back, is the massive cost involved in going there and after a few missions, the public lost interest, so there was little point to continuing.

It’sallbs wrote:

The space shuttle was faked as well it has jet engines.

…And how do jet engines work outside earths atmosphere, Mr Heisenberg?

I know that you were talking primarily about the Saturn rockets and the Apollo hardware, but on a related note, it’s a shame that the Space Shuttle was never really able to deliver on the promise of “affordable” space travel. One estimate I read was that the total cost for each “uneventful” launch and recovery was around $1 billion US (excludes the cost of other aspects of the mission). I hope that we will someday design and build a replacement for the Shuttle that will be more affordable — there is still much to learn out there.

[RennieParticipant]

WPL wrote:

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I know that you were talking primarily about the Saturn rockets and the Apollo hardware, but on a related note, it’s a shame that the Space Shuttle was never really able to deliver on the promise of “affordable” space travel. One estimate I read was that the total cost for each “uneventful” launch and recovery was around $1 billion US (excludes the cost of other aspects of the mission). I hope that we will someday design and build a replacement for the Shuttle that will be more affordable — there is still much to learn out there.

I was about to add, that the Space Shuttle was never intended to go to the moon, it doesn’t have the endurance to do so, nor the equipment to actually land there. Once they get up there in earths orbit, they’ve consumed most of the fuel they brought with them.

The Apollo missions ended, not just because of the costs involved and loss of public interest, but NASAs budget was cut and they no longer had the massive funding required to continue. It is estimated that a Saturn V launch alone cost around $1.2 billion dollars.

[Anonymous 42]

Rennie wrote:

The reason they didn’t go back, they just couldn’t justify the cost involved in going there and after a few missions, the public lost interest, so there was little point to continuing.

The last missions where they drove the rover to take samples were archeological expeditions to answer allot of the questions that arose from the questions that arose from going there in the first place.

My father saw allot of the components from briefings at work, I remember saying the oxygen valves opened and closed in the blink of an eye, he also said we’re beating the Russians through miniaturization in our electronics, he said they had to build bigger rockets just to get the electronics into space!

He started in SAC on a B-36 radar tail gunner, he was an electronics wizard, worked in electronics then got a job at Bendix Corp Aerospace Division assembling and troubleshooting inertia guidance systems, gyros, accelerometers, white room stuff, he said some of the guys would lift their hoodie and shake their hair in front of the scrubbers that would set off alarms, he said some of the equipment was so tiny and fragile that a common piece of dust in the right place would do as much damage as a boulder dropped on a car. He built his own color TV from a kit in 1965, brought home miniature sealed bearings he put on our slot car wheels (remember those?), some of the bearings were so small the head of a pen wouldn’t fit through the race, He met Wernher Von Braun too, the father of the Saturn 5.

Hey Rennie, I recommend the Space Center for anyone that has a doubt, now a private company has delivered a load to the space station and your smart phone has enough computing power to outperform the ground and space based computer systems from the Apollo missions, and still have enough power to run the Soviet Cosmodrome!

Space race never happened? I must have imagined the whole thing?

[Anonymous 3]

There is interest now. Lots of people signed up for Musk’s trip to Mars idea.

I myself would gladly leave this planet.

I don’t think anyone that signed up will actually go though. They want to send young men and women, probably in their early 20s, so as to colonize. Anyone that signed up is probably going to age out.

[Anonymous 54]

MG. Your Dad is an impressive Man.And Werner Van Braun didnt hang out with any dummbys!!! Wow!

[RennieParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Hey Rennie, I recommend the Space Center for anyone that has a doubt, now a private company has delivered a load to the space station and your smart phone has enough computing power to outperform the ground and space based computer systems from the Apollo missions, and still have enough power to run the Soviet Cosmodrome!

Also the Smithsonian in D.C has quite a bit of stuff from the Apollo missions.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

MG. Your Dad is an impressive Man.And Werner Van Braun didnt hang out with any dummbys!!! Wow!

He is an awesome man, like all men he’s an amazing man! I learned how to read schematics from him, another thing I learned was the engineers on the Saturn 5 wanted all the soldered connections only half way around the posts, never wrapped all the way around a post, they wanted any given connection to break free during extreme vibration testing, that way they wouldn’t get an intermittent failure during a mission having a ring of solder and wire break free from the post, nothing was left to chance, millions of parts had to function flawlessly, like the oxygen tank on Apollo 13 that was never refitted for a higher voltage, a change that took place later, one little error and a mission becomes a disaster.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

There’s also an opinion, that the Moon landings were real, but because the footage sucked or was bad for one reason or another – they decided to fake it in a studio

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Russky2Participant 3086]

I believe that U.S.A went to the moon. But I wonder how much power and energy they would require to proper a rocket that has to be thick enough to get through Van Allen belt without BBQing the spacemen inside. But at the same time, the first MAN in space was Russian, so somehow he made it back alive too!

MGTOW AKBAR

[ThanasiParticipant 428]

Russky2 wrote:

I believe that U.S.A went to the moon. But I wonder how much power and energy they would require to proper a rocket that has to be thick enough to get through Van Allen belt without BBQing the spacemen inside. But at the same time, the first MAN in space was Russian, so somehow he made it back alive too!

Exactly! Finally someone with a brain! Rarely have I heard anyone mention this fact. Space is dangerous, akin to putting yourself in a microwave oven, set the timer on and turn on, and then sit there for the one-year journey to Mars.

[ThanasiParticipant 428]

Anonymous wrote:

There is interest now. Lots of people signed up for Musk’s trip to Mars idea.

I myself would gladly leave this planet.

I don’t think anyone that signed up will actually go though. They want to send young men and women, probably in their early 20s, so as to colonize. Anyone that signed up is probably going to age out.

Better them than me.

[Anonymous 54]

MG. Ive been to the Smithonians Space Musium. There just arent words for it!!!

[MagusParticipant 424]

mgtower: It was not Obama that closed the shuttle program. It was Bush. Obama remained silent and let that POS finally die.

worldPowerLabs: Though you can get cost estimates from almost anywhere the widely agreed upon cost of each SS flight is closer to 500 million.

My opinion about the SS: A bunch of American girl scouts wanted to prove they did not need the German engineering that got us to the moon. They back stabbed Von Braun and Rudolph claiming they were Nazis and yada yada yada. They successfully got rid of Rudolph and almost got rid of Von Braun despite the promises the USA had made to these scientists. Once in power these politicians and their PC correct engineers continued to f~~~ things up developing s~~~ like the space shuttle. Fortunately we now have private companies taking over where our politically correct government has failed entirely. These private companies are finally advancing space exploration and the science that was dropped after the German engineers were pushed aside.

[bladeParticipant]

F~~~ this thread was intresting from everyone of you bro’s .

F~~~ tower your dad was a legend . Wonder what he thought of roswell and area 51 .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[WPLParticipant 2390]

Anonymous wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

MG. Your Dad is an impressive Man.And Werner Van Braun didnt hang out with any dummbys!!! Wow!

He is an awesome man, like all men he’s an amazing man! I learned how to read schematics from him, another thing I learned was the engineers on the Saturn 5 wanted all the soldered connections only half way around the posts, never wrapped all the way around a post, they wanted any given connection to break free during extreme vibration testing, that way they wouldn’t get an intermittent failure during a mission having a ring of solder and wire break free from the post, nothing was left to chance, millions of parts had to function flawlessly, like the oxygen tank on Apollo 13 that was never refitted for a higher voltage, a change that took place later, one little error and a mission becomes a disaster.

Even now, I occasionally refer to NASA papers on issues of quality and reliability that came out of research done during the Apollo era (it’s hard for my managers to argue with me when my opinions are backed up by NASA findings…). Men like your dad propelled (pun intended) great progress in electronics miniaturization and reliability. I’m an electronics engineer now but waaaaay back in high school, I worked as an “electro-mechanical assembler” for high-reliability equipment. We were taught to solder to MIL- and IPC- specifications, and the little picture book we had to memorize showed wires terminating at turret posts in the way you described. (Incidentally, we never ONCE had to demonstrate practical skills like soldering or troubleshooting as part of earning a degree… I guess the academic types figured that we’d all have techs working for us!)

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Anonymous wrote:

The last missions where they drove the rover to take samples were archeological expeditions to answer allot of the questions that arose from the questions that arose from going there in the first place.

My father saw allot of the components from briefings at work, I remember saying the oxygen valves opened and closed in the blink of an eye, he also said we’re beating the Russians through miniaturization in our electronics, he said they had to build bigger rockets just to get the electronics into space!

He started in SAC on a B-36 radar tail gunner, he was an electronics wizard, worked in electronics then got a job at Bendix Corp Aerospace Division assembling and troubleshooting inertia guidance systems, gyros, accelerometers, white room stuff, he said some of the guys would lift their hoodie and shake their hair in front of the scrubbers that would set off alarms, he said some of the equipment was so tiny and fragile that a common piece of dust in the right place would do as much damage as a boulder dropped on a car. He built his own color TV from a kit in 1965, brought home miniature sealed bearings he put on our slot car wheels (remember those?), some of the bearings were so small the head of a pen wouldn’t fit through the race, He met Wernher Von Braun too, the father of the Saturn 5.

Hey Rennie, I recommend the Space Center for anyone that has a doubt, now a private company has delivered a load to the space station and your smart phone has enough computing power to outperform the ground and space based computer systems from the Apollo missions, and still have enough power to run the Soviet Cosmodrome!

Eh? What questions? How the moon formed?

Also, did he get to meet Neil and Buzz or other Apollo astronauts?

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