Utah – Porn a “public health crisis”?

[experiencedParticipant]

@ soldier medic’s:

“dropping kids out of her like a clown car”

This

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 11]

mgtow_85 wrote:

if you’re still not married by that age, you’re blamed for not trying hard enough.

Keep spinning that cylinder and playing Russian Roulette. You’ll eventually get really lucky. They are ostracized for failure at age 31. What a crock of s~~~.

I’ll never forget the day back when I was a teen these Mormons came to excommunicate my Mother. We were both laughing at them like Hyenas as they read the excommunication order.

Porn is not the reason I never married. Women are the reason I never married. Even as a young blue piller, I could see men around me dropping left and right.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Interesting article.

A few points come to mind-

1. Men turn to porn because women don’t make themselves lovable or desirable. What man in his right mind would want to be around some bitch who spends all of his money, complains constantly and is never happy? Men are simply choosing the best option for them.
2. Women have a great scam going via marriage. They want to keep the scam going. By outlawing porn, women mistakingly think that more men will want to marry them.
3. Like it or not, women exercise considerable legal and political power because of the damned manginas kissing their feet. This foolishness demonstrates their power.
4. I simply ignore them while ordering another fleshlight

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

So if you aren’t married by 31 you are essential shunned. Nice.

Not Mormon, but in general I’m thinking about telling people I’m a widower.

http://janariess.religionnews.com/2015/09/16/more-mormon-men-are-leaving-the-lds-church-say-researchers-but-especially-in-utah/

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

Well, with the internet, how the hell is utah going to ban porn?

Its ridiculous, you cant ban the internet.

And it says a lot about women that men prefer to masturbate to a movie than to have sex with a woman.

[Anonymous 42]

Zuberi Tau wrote:

Actually its the state were cosplaying your favorite anime character could get you murdered by the police.

Tau, dude, live target practice is done in every state! Stay alive and don’t be the live target!

Anonymous wrote:

Hold tight, cause the shaming is only starting, and it is going to come from EVERY direction.

Shame showers? What better way to wash off feminism?

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

@mgtower

You just invented a new word for the mgtow lexicon.

Shame Showers

+1000

You rock my MAN!!!

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[SpacemonkeyParticipant 1481]

Porn was illegal in the UK for years. Sure you could get girly mags but hardcore porn was prohibited and it was actually quite strictly enforced. I remember coming back from Amsterdam in the late 80s and getting stopped by customs and having my porn stash confiscated, however they did not bring charges. ( Its a good job they didn’t find the LSD sewn into the cuff of my jacket! )

Anyway, once the internet became established they were p~~~ing into the wind on that one and so it would be if Utah attempted to ban porn. I’ve been to countries in the Middle East, Muslim countries where really quite innocuous sites have been bared, but all you need if a VPN server and away you go.

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

[Anonymous 3]

It’s worth repeating I think, but society really, really hates men.

It will attack all things male. Any hobby, men will be ridiculed for. Until women want to invade it, then women are praised for it, even though they were busy insulting and mocking it immediately before.

Society is absolutely obsessed with destroying men. It might as well be in bold letters at the top of the “Social Contract.”

Society, which is women and manginas, are collectively having a fit that MGTOW exists and hasn’t gone away yet. I hope MGTOW gets bigger and stronger.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22558]

FrankOne wrote:

men that went out to spread Mormonism to new converts for 2 years on their dime. . .

I wonder how many men use this as the opportunity to leave the plantation and not come back. They may do this in pairs, but it likely two can run better than one.

Anonymous wrote:

Society is absolutely obsessed with destroying men. It might as well be in bold letters at the top of the “Social Contract.”

They demand we be forced to live by a contract we never agreed too, and they already broke. Such hypocrisy demands rebellion.

[guiParticipant 825]

Even if they could ban porn what would stop red pill men from using their own imagination? Or moving to another state?
Marriage is so bad that even without porn many would still not marry. I knew I wouldn’t

Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

China is able to block websites at the top. Then they don’t even show up in search results. The call it the “great firewall” or something like that. It can be done.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 3]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

China is able to block websites at the top. Then they don’t even show up in search results. The call it the “great firewall” or something like that. It can be done.

Yeah, but they don’t just ban porn, they pretty much ban everything. It’s more they allow certain things through. They have their own Amazon and Google as a result.

For decades TV was the only media platform, and so the elites could easily control and brainwash the populace. When the internet came about, it was mostly us nerds and geeks, intellectuals that met and shared ideas. Eventually businesses followed suit, and then the media platforms like facebook took off and mainstreamed it.

We have stuff like MGTOW.com and a few other small sites still, because the internet was open, is still a bit open.

But the second the government clamps down—and in the US it has kill switches and can shut down the internet whenever it wants at a national level—that freedom goes. And the past 20 some odd years of advancement and intellectual freedom will be dashed. Many of us were indeed living an MGTOW lifestyle, but it’s been easier now that we know each other exist. That would be gone.

It was said the printing press was the greatest invention for freedom in the past. Anonymous brochures could be printed out, books giving knowledge that could be shared. Governments would clamp down and used to famously ban books, in fact Germany I think still has some bans on Mein Kampf and probably the International Jew. After the internet came about, it was an even greater tool, but I know governments want to control it, because these psychopaths always want to control everything.

[Anonymous 5]

Good post Cipher,

For me I have hated my unique attraction to women. I have hated how I just like there beauty. But it’s just that once it falls to conversation I just can’t help but roll my eye’s than again- all am saying towards “porn” this has always been my skeleton in the basement. I HATE my need to see t~~~ after 1 month of not seeing any/virtually/physically. This dumbass saying:

“Whereas pornography use is linked to lessening desire in young men to marry, dissatisfaction in marriage, and infidelity.”

Is idiot – this is far from what the issue what “porn” actually dose to a male mind. I know there other topics/forums better for what am getting at. But may I say that there is a spark of “magic” given for when you conquer that which I suffer from: the “biological norm” to wanna f~~~ a lady. In reality maybe am alittle to deep into this. Porn ultimately for me takes away my drive to live but also makes me blissfully passive. A double edged blade. Do I belive porn should outlawed? No. Do I hate porn for it’s convenient nature and how it makes me feel? No. But none the less I know when something is not good and what I need to do to cut it out.

[FrankOneParticipant 1427]

FrankOne wrote:
men that went out to spread Mormonism to new converts for 2 years on their dime. . .

Faust wrote: I wonder how many men use this as the opportunity to leave the plantation and not come back. They may do this in pairs, but it likely two can run better than one.

The strategy of the LDS Corporation, to deal with independence, has been to lower the age of service for Missionaries. If they leave the plantation, they are shunned, sometimes even disowned by their parents.

They do it (Missionary work) in pairs so that one can snitch on the other. They sing songs from young childhood about the glory of being a missionary. Males are expected to do it; for females it’s optional.

If you ever meet these Missionaries, I suggest interacting with them — ask probing questions. You’ll find most just follow a script, and know little about their own faith and even less about the history of Joseph Smith. But do offer them some food — they typically work outrageous hours and have little money.

Mormons conduct ‘worthiness interviews’ to make sure members are chaste. Then they conduct ‘tithing settlements’ to make sure, at the end of each year, you’ve paid up your full 10% to the Corporation and thus, are eligible for Dead Dunking at the Temple (the so-called ‘Temple Recommend’). Most of this money goes towards business investments, very little to charity.

On porn: I don’t see it having any huge impact on me personally. I had a high sex drive in my 20’s, and would sometimes use porn, sometimes not. It’s not like if it was unavailable, I would have done a lot more dating… I see nothing wrong with porn.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Anonymous wrote:

mgtow_85 wrote:

if you’re still not married by that age, you’re blamed for not trying hard enough.

Keep spinning that cylinder and playing Russian Roulette. You’ll eventually get really lucky. They are ostracized for failure at age 31. What a crock of s~~~.

I’ll never forget the day back when I was a teen these Mormons came to excommunicate my Mother. We were both laughing at them like Hyenas as they read the excommunication order.

Porn is not the reason I never married. Women are the reason I never married. Even as a young blue piller, I could see men around me dropping left and right.

By the time you’re 25, thanks to a quote from Brigham Young, “if you’re not married by 25, you’re a menace to society”, people begin giving you the weird looks as to why you’re not married yet. Lack of decent income or health may be an excuse. Hell, how many people by then could afford to let their wives stay home for good and buy them new minivans every two years whenever the style changes to something new they want? They might accept that a guy working full-time at $1300 a month or a guy with health disorders incapable of supporting a family might not be able to take that challenge, but then they treat him like he’s retarded or like he’s a 5 year old and people give him a wide berth anyway. Women who are still single? Oh, it’s not their fault. Men just aren’t willing to “grow up and follow the Priesthood” so we’ll prepare a lesson in Sunday School that will chide single men and tell them to “follow the prophet” and “hold onto the iron rod” and “rescue those women” by following the “commandment of marriage”.
So basically, it’s the fault of MEN as to why women are still single. Nothing is a woman’s fault. Not even when she makes a list of 1,001 expectations as to what her husband should look like and what he’s willing to do for her. You ask a woman to trim that list, you’re asking her to settle for LESS, and we can’t have that, can we? Men should just strengthen their resolve and try to be everything that a woman wants because “God counts the tears of a woman.”
And if you’re 31 and still single, you are looked at as an abomination and no different than if you were homosexual, or the child of a same-sex couple. Single men are not even allowed to hold any leadership positions in the Mormon Church, so guys get married if they want to become so much as a Scoutmaster.
As you guys can tell, I am a member of this church, but in name only. I’m pretty much inactive these days and doing my own thing because I refuse to believe in a version of Jesus Christ who automatically hates single men and people of same-sex attraction. I believe Christ loved and accepted people for who they are, not that he’s an automatic Bogeyman to smite those that are on the “unacceptable” list of the Church. And in many cases, you make it on that list not only by staying single, but for having a can of Dr. Pepper while paying out a check for NINE PERCENT tithing to Mormon HQ.

[MIKETOWParticipant 757]

Anonymous wrote:

Isn’t Utah one of those states with life in prison for pot?
Great skiing, but don’t get caught smoking a joint!

Surprisingly, no. Less than an oz is a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail. I know that still blows, but not as bad as some other states.

http://norml.org/laws/item/utah-penalties-2

[QcummerParticipant 652]

Soo….anyone dated any Amish chicks?

[FrankOneParticipant 1427]

Qcummer wrote: Soo….anyone dated any Amish chicks?

I tried once but she would only do two Mennonite.

Those bonnets are hot and they sure do know how to make nice apple pies.

Interestingly, many sects of Amish actually have a ‘bed date’ — or bundling — where the couple get together in bed, unsupervised! Sometimes, even on a first date! It depends on the sect. Strange but true.

Also, the subject of this topic should be Porn: A Pubic health Crisis.

mgtow_85: Did you also know, that the Mormons used to teach that you had to have multiple wives to reach the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom? You know, like the Executive Suite?

“The only men who become Gods, even the sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy” – Bringem Young — so you better go multi-wife if you want your own Planet in the afterlife.

Brigand said so. I guess Warren Jeffs gets his own planet, probably near the star Kolob. Oh, if I could hie to Kolob…

If you have your own planet, can you charge whatever you want for rents?

And don’t forget to tithe on GROSS not NET income, cheapskate! Haha 9%! Or it’s no dead-dunking for you! Have you ever been to the handshake factory?

Actually, my all-time-favorite is how the Prophet got a revelation that blacks, after all, SHOULD have the Priesthood. Spencer W. Kimball, Prophet, Seer, and Revelator, got a rev-u-lation in 1978. It had nothing to do with social norms changing, of course 🙂 Classic. That, and how Lamanites, upon conversion, would become ‘white and delightsome’. Sickening racists.

[OldBillParticipant]

I’ve been posting about the looming wave of new “fugitive slave laws” ever since joining this site. Utah’s porn ban is just another example of what I’ve been posting about. While the proposed ban itself is nonsense, unenforceable, and undoubtedly little more than pandering to both Mormon and female voters, the thinking behind it should give us all pause.

In Utah men are leaving their Blue Pill faith and eschewing marriage in numbers that their church and women can no longer ignore. Slaves, their labor, and their assets are escaping the plantation and something must be done. Accordingly, the government of Utah, which is a theocracy is all but name, has responded. Porn is an easy to blame and even more easily targeted, so a proposed ban on porn is the quickest way to be seen as doing something.

Even if passed, the ban can’t work and won’t pass constitutional muster. The ban isn’t the real problem here, however, it’s the issues and thinking behind the ban.

Whether they identify as MGTOWs or not, whether they’ve heard of the MGTOW movement or not, more and more men are opting to go their own way and avoid living in thralldom to women. Women are going to become more and more frantic as more and more men, their labor, and their assets are removed from female control. As more and more of we “slaves” escape, women will demand that their allies in government pass more and more “fugitive slave acts”.

We’re beginning to see the first groundswell of those new laws. Paternity testing is increasingly under legal assault. Common law marriage statutes are being enforced again, reintroduced where they had lapsed, and made stricter where they haven’t. Palimony statutes are being introduced and made stricter too. Hidden bachelor taxes already exist and overt bachelor taxes are being seriously discussed. The drums are beating, the pitchforks are waving, the torches are lit, and the hounds are baying.

We are targets, brothers. Our labor, assets, and very lives are increasingly coveted by those in power. The more they try to grasp, however, the more of us will break free.

Stay strong and keep your wits about you. We will prevail.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Author]

Posts