The Silliness of a Hypothetical War 'tween Mexico & USA

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  • #784211
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    Gravel Pit
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    Threads like these belong down here in the Political Corner (notice how its at the bottom left corner because politics are unimportant). Yet people keep posting political crap in Money and in Central…

    I wanted to flat line this notion of a war with Mexico which is so ludicrous. Some of the United Kingdom fellas or even Euro/Asia MGTOW may not understand so let me illustrate. I’m a credible source since I’m not Mexican or Democrat, yet I have lived in Texas for over 20 years, plus 7 years in New Mexico and 3 years in California.

    1. Mexico is to America, what Wales is to Britain. You could even substitute Scotland or Ireland. Sure, there was trouble in the past but a military campaign now is unthinkable and hysterically funny. It just wont happen because the people on both sides are blood brothers.

    2. Mexicans are not some new foreign invader who refuses to eat apple pie and go to baseball games. They’ve been with us for 200 years and have served with white men in all our wars, most notably: WW1 & WWII plus Korea, Vietnam and the middle east. These people are not akin to certain other demographical populations who barely started acquiescing in the 80’s. No. I say this as a conservative, Bush/Trump loving, ex-Marine yahoo, Mexicans are as American as Theodore Roosevelt. (this does not mean I support illegal immigration or amnesty)

    3. Yes, the Chewies (nickname) breed like rabbits but they’re Catholics and have been here since the beginning (remember the Alamo). Yes, Mexico is a hell hole because of corruption and the Mexican cartels and it needs reform and we need to ban them from sending all their illegal immigrants. But that doesn’t mean we haven’t been brothers with them for 200 years. They served in combat with us and helped build America for over 100 years, they are us.

    4. The % of people in North America who would support a war with Mexico is less than .00001. It’s absolutely crazy. Yes, there are unwaveringly anti-immigration people and even racists but that doesn’t mean war. We’re actually interbred with these people like it or not. Not one generation, not two, but 4 or 5 generations of melting pot style American fornication.

    It’s like saying, the UK should go to war with France or Iceland. LOL. You guys are silly. I can forgive it since you probably have never spent a day in Texas, or even America. But listen to me, the political strife with Mexico is just political. Those people are North Americans.

    Mexico is a tourism haven and brings in a lot of money from cruises and whatnot. The jungles and mountains are also rich with natural resources. In all honesty, Mexico should be a thriving 1st world, wealthy nation. We need to halt immigration and help our neighbor become secure, healthy, admirable and profitable…..not roll tanks into Mexico City and demolish their capital. Americans would never stand for that, red or blue, north or south.

    Thanks.

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    Anonymous
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    Bulls~~~. Mexico could only benefit from a U.S. invasion. Tourism? LoL, maybe 50 years ago, now tourists are murdered down there. I’d rather vacation in Beirut.

    As far as their capital, I agree we shouldn’t roll tanks into that sewer..

    #784217
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    Y_
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    Thank you and a really good summary all round.

    #784220
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    It'sallbs
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    Just build a secure border, you’ll always have some getting through but it would dramatically reduce numbers, and leave Mexico to it’s own problems.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #784223
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    Gravel Pit
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    I’m pro-wall. Cheers to the commenters. -peace

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    Anonymous
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    Just move the bombing range south, keep practicing bomb runs as usual, in two weeks Mexico will unconditionally surrender…

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    TheSpice
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    Mexico is like that family member that cannot be trusted. You share blood, but you must have some kind of barrier of they’re going to drag you down.

    Massive corruption will always hold Mexico down. I don’t know that it can be routed out. If you knock out their leaders, they will just be replaced by the same or worse. It’s cultural.

    Invading Mexico seems pointless, but keeping a strong border is a must.

    "I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
    "You know it's too late for that."

    #784258
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    It'sallbs
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    Massive corruption

    Well there is something you have in common with your brothers in Mexico – a country and government riddled with corruption.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #784267
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    Gravel Pit
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    There is always a bunch of corruption where there is power. Last I checked, London wasn’t exactly all tea & biscuits, more like falafels and chai.

    Remember that one guy on YouTube, the British dude who kept getting his channel taken down because of how much he absolutely hated Muslimes. I loved that guy, stand up bloke. This was when all them ragheads were raping English girls and knifing people…

    Mexicans aren’t really that bad. We’re not so furious with them to have a war, not even angry either, just upset that they can’t fix their own country so they just keep migrating into ours. But it could be worse, they could be Muslim and raping our women, bombing our churches.

    Ill take a Mexican invasion over a Muslim one any day. At the end of the day, we’re all being taxed without representation and sold out to immigrants by our leaders.

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    Faust For Science
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    1. Mexico is to America, what Wales is to Britain. You could even substitute Scotland or Ireland. Sure, there was trouble in the past but a military campaign now is unthinkable and hysterically funny. It just wont happen because the people on both sides are blood brothers.

    2. Mexicans are not some new foreign invader who refuses to eat apple pie and go to baseball games. They’ve been with us for 200 years and have served with white men in all our wars, most notably: WW1 & WWII plus Korea, Vietnam and the middle east. These people are not akin to certain other demographical populations who barely started acquiescing in the 80’s. No. I say this as a conservative, Bush/Trump loving, ex-Marine yahoo, Mexicans are as American as Theodore Roosevelt. (this does not mean I support illegal immigration or amnesty)

    3. Yes, the Chewies (nickname) breed like rabbits but they’re Catholics and have been here since the beginning (remember the Alamo). Yes, Mexico is a hell hole because of corruption and the Mexican cartels and it needs reform and we need to ban them from sending all their illegal immigrants. But that doesn’t mean we haven’t been brothers with them for 200 years. They served in combat with us and helped build America for over 100 years, they are us.

    4. The % of people in North America who would support a war with Mexico is less than .00001. It’s absolutely crazy. Yes, there are unwaveringly anti-immigration people and even racists but that doesn’t mean war. We’re actually interbred with these people like it or not. Not one generation, not two, but 4 or 5 generations of melting pot style American fornication.

    (5) It’s like saying, the UK should go to war with France or Iceland. LOL. You guys are silly. I can forgive it since you probably have never spent a day in Texas, or even America. But listen to me, the political strife with Mexico is just political. Those people are North Americans.

    (6) Mexico is a tourism haven and brings in a lot of money from cruises and whatnot. The jungles and mountains are also rich with natural resources. In all honesty, Mexico should be a thriving 1st world, wealthy nation. We need to halt immigration and help our neighbor become secure, healthy, admirable and profitable…..not roll tanks into Mexico City and demolish their capital. Americans would never stand for that, red or blue, north or south.

    (7) Thanks.

    Let us do this point by point.

    1. Mexico is a criminal haven that drives their unwanted peoples into the U.S. to use as a proxies to leach wealth from the U.S. into Mexico via money transfers. At the same time, many of these foreign invaders steal, harm, murder, rape against the American people. And because of catch and release policies, even if a foreign invader is arrested, the criminal is released and rarely sees trial for their crimes.

    The number of criminal invading mexicans drunk drivers whom have murdered U.S. citizens is in the tens of thousands.

    2. You mistake U.S. citizens of Mexican descent, with illegal mexican foreign invaders and the nation of Mexico. Except for first generation U.S. citizens of Mexican descent, most U.S. citizens of Mexican descent and legal Mexican immigrants want the illegal foreign invaders deported and Mexico to be reigned in.

    3. The U.S. and Mexico are not peaceful neighbors. An example of peaceful neighbors is U.S. and Canada. Over the two hundred years the U.S. and Mexico have had several border skirmishes and at least one major war.

    Currently, China is using the Mexico and the loopholes in NATFA to wage a proxy economic war with the U.S. through Mexico.

    4. No one has done a poll on the question of if the U.S. population wants the U.S. to go to war with Mexico. But, the moment something is done to reign in Mexico, those U.S. citizens that nationalists towards the U.S. greatly rejoice.

    5. The UK and France have been bitter enemies for centuries. Technically, the UK was fighting France up to World War II, due to France being occupied by the Germans during that war.

    By the way, I live in the U.S. and have seen first hand the problems illegal foreign invasion causes.

    6. So you believe because a few rich elitists enjoy the guarded tourism areas in Mexico means that those impoverished and harmed both in the U.S. and Mexico should tolerate the corrupt status quo. Bulls~~~.

    That is so willfully ignorant on you part that it is disgusting.

    That very fact you would make such a article as the above post either means you are an academic living in an social ivory tower bubble whom does not know what is really going on, or you have something to gain by the status quo and you are trying to convince both yourself and other people to maintain the status quo for your benefit.

    Unlike the UK, which you so compare the situation to, in the U.S. we still have somewhat of freedom of speech. So we can talk about invading foreign criminals and the policies of foreign nation without worry of arrest by the state on fraudulent hate crime charges.

    Anyone whom looks at the situation objectively can see that the U.S. and Mexico is heading headlong into a war with each other. The only question is if such a war is going to be over NATFA, illegal foreign invasion, or some form of nationalism from either the U.S. or Mexico.

    Look at the current election campaigns of those running for president in Mexico. The campaign issues by the candidates in presidential race in Mexico are basically “hate the U.S.” and “take from the U.S.”. Peace cannot be maintain with a foreign policy like that.

    The very change in demographics in the U.S., with many of those in power supporting this, where by those becoming the majority HATE the native (black, white, asian, etc) populations already living in the U.S., along with the native population being armed to the teeth and making it clear they will fight rather than surrender their weapons to the state, means that the future will likely someday see bloodshed at a level in North American that has not been seem in over a century.

    7. No thanks.

    #784274
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    It'sallbs
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    Last I checked, London wasn’t exactly all tea & biscuits

    We are probably the most corrupt country on earth.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #784275
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    It'sallbs
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    Unlike the UK, which you so compare the situation to, in the U.S. we still have somewhat of freedom of speech

    I agree with you 100% on that.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #784302
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    Gravel Pit
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    Let me start by saying, I voted for Trump bro, and will again. I’m pro-wall. Many people here in Texas voted for Ted Cruz or Hillary. Not me, I voted for Trump. That alone should speak volumes about me.

    Quote: Mexico is a criminal haven that drives their unwanted peoples into the U.S

    (No, Mexico is a poor but free country with many problems. Their poor seek employment in the USA. Most of them are innocent, hard working Christian-like people who merely want to feed their family and earn a living. A small portion of them are criminals, I understand that and am furious about it but I’m not advocating for a war with a peaceful nation).

    Quote: …catch and release policies, even if a foreign invader is arrested, the criminal is released

    (We deport people everyday. We imprison criminals or deport them. You also have to acknowledge that we just got done dealing with 8 years of Obama who is famous for his DACA crap, amnesty and foreign babies becoming citizens. Believe me I hate that. But that is our moronic politicians and no reason to declare war on a non-violent neighbor country.)

    Quote: You mistake U.S. citizens of Mexican descent, with illegal mexican foreign invaders and the nation of Mexico

    No, I’m not mixing them up. I see them daily on a micro level, all you see is headlines and macro level. I already said I’m anti-amnesty, pro-wall and anti-immigration. A war is not necessary and frankly, way over the top.

    Quote: U.S. and Mexico are not peaceful neighbors.
    (Yes they are. So what, that some ranchers sniped some illegal Mexicans swimming the Rio Grande? That is hardly a skirmish. We’re have a border and we enforce it, at least when Republicans are in charge. Also, I’m well aware that illegal workers fill my state. I’m against it. I’m against them cashing checks at 7-11 and Western Unioning the money to Mexico. I see that this is ruining my home Texas. I want them deported, not send F-22 jets to blow up Mexican bases.)

    Quote: China is using the Mexico and the loopholes in NATFA

    (Another reason I voted for Trump. Not that I’m terribly interested in trade right now, I’m more interested in flatlining war mongering idea of declaring war on Mexico which is crazy. Trade is trade is trade. Its constantly being bargained and changing. I like the American dollar and American businesses so that is why I voted for Trump. We could butt rape Mexico with sanctions and all sorts of trade walls. I’m all for that. I’m not for taking over their country or having a hot war.

    Quote: No one has done a poll on the question of if the U.S. population wants the U.S. to go to war with Mexico.

    (Seeing as I’ve lived here for 32 years I can safely say with 100% certainty, no one is for that, period. This is not even remotely supportable. In fact, if our military did start sending troops to the border planning on waging a war, you’d see as many Republicans protesting as Democrats. That is way over the top. We’re talking about trade solutions, immigration reform and border walls, not all out war with an inferior neighbor who has deep roots with us.

    Quote: The UK and France have been bitter enemies for centuries.

    (That was then, this is now. We’re no longer sailing ships around the world or fighting the Spanish for conquest of North America. This is the 21st century. It’s not much of a point seeing as Churchill respected the French enough to try and help them, or at least save his own people too. Texans and Union forces already conquered Mexico. We marched all the way their capital. We won. The war is over. Their country was handed back to the them and the Rio Grande was set as the border. There will be no further military campaign, period.)

    Quote: …few rich elitists enjoy the guarded tourism…

    (Have you ever been to Cancun or Cozumel? Have you ever walked up the Mayan temples? I have. I have swam in underwater Mexican caves and dined at cheap, dirt floor Mexican cantinas. I have given money to the kids and tipped the drivers. I am not rich. Millions of Americans visit Mexico every year for cheap. A 5 day cruise from Galveston to Cancun is like $400 lol. This is a peaceful part of the world despite all the psycho MSM propaganda. Little people thrive and are friendly to one another. It’s not all drug cartel execution in the desert. Its mostly good. I’m a Republican and I’m telling you this. The beef with Mexico is not that deep to entertain the idea of war. LOL)

    Quote: Anyone whom looks at the situation objectively can see that the U.S. and Mexico is heading headlong into a war with each other.

    (I’m sorry that is wrong. Anyone perhaps that doesn’t live here and watches MSM too much lol. That is not going to happen, period. Dude, I’m telling you that is crazy.)

    Quote: …(middle American white gun owners) being armed to the teeth and making it clear they will fight rather than surrender their weapons to the state,

    (The 2nd Amendment is set in stone, period. You can’t get rid of it, especially by force because the military are a bunch of red-pilled farm boys who are not going to march into Kansas and start unarming Americans. You’re living is some amped version of reality where Armageddon is coming or something. Dial back the Alex Jones channel and listen to an on-the-ground voice. We’re NOT heading into any sort of hot conflict with Mexico. We’re also NOT headed into any sort of abandoning of the Bill of Rights. Aint happening buddy.)

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    Vlad
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    Just move the bombing range south, keep practicing bomb runs as usual, in two weeks Mexico will unconditionally surrender…

    Dats horrible idea!

    Basically, all Maxico has to do, is recruit 50% of men into army, then surrender, demanding at least PoW treatment in strict accordance to international laws.

    Then, under current political system and all SJW, Mexicans had just to pull any remotely justifiable “victim” act, and all USA economy will collapse like card castle.

    Marriage is the tomb of love (c)Giacomo Casanova

    #784318
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    TheSpice
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    Well there is something you have in common with your brothers in Mexico – a country and government riddled with corruption.

    True enough. Their’s is clearly worse, but I suppose it’s a lot like comparing lung cancer with pancreatic cancer.

    "I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
    "You know it's too late for that."

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    Faust For Science
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    We’re talking about trade solutions, immigration reform and border walls, not all out war with an inferior neighbor who has deep roots with us.

    Mexico will not settle for any changes that stops the money coming to them over the border. And the current situation is destroying the U.S.

    There two dramatically oppose positions will likely lead to war.

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    Anonymous
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    Just move the bombing range south, keep practicing bomb runs as usual, in two weeks Mexico will unconditionally surrender…

    Dats horrible idea!

    Basically, all Maxico has to do, is recruit 50% of men into army, then surrender, demanding at least PoW treatment in strict accordance to international laws.

    Then, under current political system and all SJW, Mexicans had just to pull any remotely justifiable “victim” act, and all USA economy will collapse like card castle.

    We shall march all the SJW’s ahead of our infantry and use them as meat shields. Problem solved.

    Hey Faust, excellent post btw!

    #784336
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    Faust For Science
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    22525

    Hey Faust, excellent post btw!

    Thanks.

    Que A Team theme.

    #784340
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    Knarley Bob
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    The one thing that most people miss about “The Wall”, is that it would benefit Mexico also. If the drug trade was hampered, there would be less cartel violence south of the border. All the turf war violence would be diminished as there would be little or nothing to fight over. Why is Mexico such a hell hole? It’s from the Central American and South American drug runners going thru! It’s not Mexico’s fault that they are the front steps to the U.S. I think if there is to be a war, it should be a bit further south.

    OATHKEEPERS, not on our watch. MOLON LABE

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    743 roadmaster
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    Mexico is a hell of a lot of wasted potential.
    Corruption in all parts of government. Spanish for a language. Overpopulation making some areas so poverty stricken no exit is possible. All of which breeding grounds for gangs.
    What Mexico has is natural resources, for the most part hard working population.
    A willing billionaire could almost change the whole thing and make it into a productive brilliant country.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

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