The seductiive power of hate

[Anonymous 12]

*deep silence and hair standing in my neck*

thank you.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

PistolPete wrote:

God bless you.

God bless you Pete! Your wisdom is invaluable. I can’t imagine what it would be like to live like that. I was pretty close to living that life. If I hadn’t gotten adopted, I’m afraid I would have lived a very similar life. God pulled me out that mess. I give him all the glory.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[joetechParticipant]

I’ve studied history extensively, especially World War 2, having been born and raised in the post war years. I’ve heard the stories first hand from survivors. When the Nuremberg laws were passed, the Jews said that suddenly all the protections were removed and citizens were given free reign to do whatever they pleased to Jews. Look at the night of broken glass. I can see men in this same predicament in today’s society. The Nazis were a hate group and when they took power they lead an entire nation to its destruction. Nations are like individuals, and a group like that can and will lead to the destruction of the individual. Gang members get shot in the streets all the time. Suicide bombers sacrifice themselves for the cause while the leaders rest in relative safety enjoying the fruits of the labors of others. Hate is a prison and one has to accept the world in which we live and take necessary actions in order to protect one’s self. Pete, you took those actions, like the Jews who fled Nazi Germany in time to escape the fate that awaited them. I’ve struggled with anger many times and it’s good to come here and read posts like yours and get things off my chest. Inner peace starts with accepting each new day as an opportunity to find and live that dream within us. Never stop dreaming, never stop believing in yourself. Peace brother.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

When I was a teenager and young man I spent several years as a member of a organization (which I will leave nameless) that actively promoted hatred and revenge. It was central to their philosophy.

You were a feminst?

Seriously great post. Hate only hates the hater.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

You were a feminist?

No but is is interesting that the women “hangers on” were actually more vicious than the men when it came to actual violence. Didn’t understand that then…I do now…Thank heaven for MGTOW!

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

This should go into Top Gun.

Thank you for your contribution.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

That’s a tough one to read and takes a lot of courage to post.
Good topic and very relevant.
Even the smallest amount of hate can set you backwards. I found a pick of my ex behind and some photos I had on the wall. I was gonna draw all over it with a sharpie just to vent some anger. I thought how stupid of me, she wan’t worth even that small amount of effort and I nonchalantly tossed it out. That was when I knew I was free. When I just really, really did not care.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Anger is an emotion, and a very powerful one at that, so it’s worth keeping in the back of your mind at all times that when you’re very angry, you’re NOT THINKING RATIONALLY. When you’re in a fit of rage, I think it’s best not to act at all or make any decisions until it’s past. You may find the things you were tempted to do under the influence of your rage start to look like really bad ideas when you’re calm and rational again.

Had I done some of the things I considered doing in fits of rage, I wouldn’t be here to type this 🙂

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Gnostic wrote:

This should go into Top Gun.

That is a humbling prospect and I have no idea what the criteria is to make it into the Top Gun.
I share Gnostic’s sentiment but not as a matter of personal vanity, or need for self aggrandizement. One reason I was hesitant about writing a formal introduction was because I held a certain anxiety regarding how my tenure as a member and later officer in a genuinely vile hate group would be treated by the members. I’ve had very bad experiences in the past hence my reticence to discuss it.

If this post makes it into the Top Gun it is not due to anything I wrote, rather it would be due to what my fellow MGTOW brothers DIDN’T write. No ridicule, no judgments, no condemnations, no making light of it. Everyone was supportive and I think connected in a substantive way, treating the topic with thoughtfulness and reflection. Truly amazing and gratifying. If the post belongs in the Top gun it is due to their responses–it is a fine reflection upon the character and integrity of my brothers. It took 30+ years but I have definitely traded up in whom I call comrade and brother.

Thank you

[Y_Participant 4591]

PP – you have my utmost respect and friendship.
It takes a real man to say what you have said.

The past will always be there, but it cannot affect you anymore and that is what counts.

Thanks for being here on this site – it would be very different without you here.

PS – You are not alone my brother. There are things I do not want to remember but I have made peace with myself. It is part of being human and like it or not – the strength you have today comes from the forge of such hardships.

Be at Peace.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Thank you Yumbo for linking this. I’ve been a little preoccupied and haven’t been able to read all of the posts these past few days. I am very happy I did not miss this one.

Pete, I am a man full of conflict and hate. All of it stems from a desire for revenge. I planted a hateseed in my own heart a long time ago and it has only grown into weeds.

Your story has been inspirational, and, watching the friendship develop between you and Yumbo makes me a little less ‘hatey’.

May the peace of Christ be with you always Pete.

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

I think a lot of men struggle with feelings of hate, anger, desire for revenge, but as Spetsnaz said, holding to hate and desire for revenge is like drinking poison and waiting for other person to die …

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[J.R. “Bob” DobbsParticipant 521]

Like love, hate is an overused and abused word. You can “hate” lima beans, you can “hate” the Red Sox/Yankees, or you can “hate” Hillary Clinton. Obviously all aren’t the same thing.

The kind of hate I believe PistolPete is talking about is the kind of hate that seeks revenge. A friend of mine from a recovery group once said “Hate is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die.” I’ve heard this kind of hate causes cancer. I have found the best antidote to hate is forgiveness. Forgiveness is letting go of that need for revenge and trusting God to make things right in His way and His time.

The Lord’s Prayer makes a point of it:

“Forgive us our debts (trespasses) and we forgive our debtors (those who trespass against us).”

Hate comes from being aggrieved, from being wronged. Someone has violated us by word, deed, or attitude. It can apply to an individual or an entire class of people/nation. When we are violated, the person/people who did the violating incurs a moral debt, against God as well as us. The entire concept of justice is based on keeping the moral books balanced.

The reality is however, that we incur our own debts to others and to God as well. In the Christian tradition, the Lord’s Prayer reminds us of this fact and also reminds us that God Himself through Jesus forgives us of our debts, so we need to do likewise.

Forgiveness is the cancelling of a debt someone else owes us. Nothing more.

>> Forgiveness is not forgetting, despite the old adage
>> Forgiveness is not excusing what was done to us.
>> Forgiveness is not trust.
>> Forgiveness is not “back to business as usual.”
>> Forgiveness is not a “good feeling” about someone.

On a final note, here’s the original Serenity Prayer. My experience is most people stop after the first paragraph, because the rest isn’t P.C. anymore, but the non-P.C. part is naturally the most powerful:

God, give me grace to accept with serenity
the things that cannot be changed,
Courage to change the things
which should be changed,
and the Wisdom to distinguish
the one from the other.

Living one day at a time,
Enjoying one moment at a time,
Accepting hardship as a pathway to peace,
Taking, as Jesus did,
This sinful world as it is,
Not as I would have it,
Trusting that You will make all things right,
If I surrender to Your will,
So that I may be reasonably happy in this life,
And supremely happy with You forever in the next.

Amen.

–C.N.M.

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