The moment men knew the marriage is over.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/moment-men-knew-marriages-were-over_5602d785e4b08820d91b22f6?ref=yfp

Some of these reasons are unbelievable,I mean number 4 had me staring at sheetrock.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Anonymous 18]

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Some of these reasons are unbelievable,I mean number 4 had me staring at sheetrock.

And she still ended up as his ex-wife.

Oh number 6 wanted to raise another man’s child his wife got knocked up with. She left his ass.

Men do get really wound up around pussy.

Sadly I could just feel my anger and helplessness in both scenarios. It’s men who suffer from learned helplessness. Damned if you act out on the anger on a cheating whore and Damned if you leave the whore. Divorce.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Numbers 4, 5 and 10 just floored me.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

The Moth Attracted to the Flame wrote:

Numbers 4, 5 and 10 just floored me.

Lol!!!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

the moment she called 911

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[RoyDalParticipant]

The one where he realized he was happy when he was driving alone. I’ve had that exact thing happen. It was a bolt from the blue at the time.

It is to their credit that they stuck it out as long as they did. I am not nearly as tolerant of being tortured as some of those men were. Maybe it is because kids were involved, or maybe it was just force of habit.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[I_Walk_AloneParticipant 580]

Number 3 though. Many of us have had that epiphany!

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

Some of those are just insane… divorce is a weapon of fear against men.

The marriage is over, the second you, as a man, sign the marriage contract.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

WTF?

4 and 8 is too much to believe, man…

You were OK with CHEATING?

F~~~ that… There are men who indeed like to be trampled by their wemin…

S~~~, that is just f~~~ed up.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

I knew it the night of our wedding.
Of course, the invisible hand came many times since then to offer me the blue and red pills and I always chose the blue pill, until last year, but that night stuck in my mind. Of course, I’m still married, but I know it will come. I just try to delay it as much as I can so I don’t loose my kids.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Isn’t it wierd there is always ONE “moment” where a guy knows “she’s done”?
Its’ either she’s all there, or she’s done.

I have had that click in my head too – many times. . It’s a split second where you lost her and without talking about it, she’s never coming back – not even long enough to listen to you. I find that absolutely remarkable…. and I don’t even have that CAPACITY. Even when a woman has made me angry enough to scream, Im INVESTED. I’m not just gonna be “gone” and mentally separate myself – from that moment on – with absolute permanency. I don’t even know how women are capable of the s~~~ that’s on that list. Even more amazing….. the way a woman can detatch herself like that and still sleep in your bed (for months or even years) is unbelievable.

She will be “totally gone” in spirit…. but still LIVE with you and put on a show. How f~~~ing creepy is that?

If you’re gone…. GO!!!!! for f~~~ sake.
• Don’t recommend “marriage counseling”.
• Don’t ask “I really need to know where this relationship is going”
…… when you have already made up your mind it’s going in the trash.

Stop pretending to be a wife (while you’re f~~~ing someone else) – and GET OUT. When a man screws around at least he’s still INVESTED. He’s still paying the bills. He can even still love his wife!! (men have that capacity). A cheating man is gonna pay if a baby comes out of it. He’s gonna pay alimony. A woman flips on a dime, goes stone cold on a whim and then wants a monthly check. It’s insane. She tells EVERYONE about her plan except the guy she pretended to “love” and was in a relationship with. Even the KIDS know first what mommy’s gonna do.

Trust and stick with your manstincts. They are never wrong.

*******

A personal example about a significant EX:

When a particular song came on, I got silly and started singing it & changing the lryics which made her p~~~ herself with laughter. She BEGGED me to do it. But I never did it when she asked….. only when she wasn’t expecting it. It was our “inside joke” nobody else knew. Guaranteed she would laugh hysterically every time – as predictable as a light switch. One day, the song is on and start doing it. Blank stare. She was looking at me like “who the f~~~ is this guy” and not saying anything. Like the last 3 years didn’t happen and she had amnesia. Not even a smile or “oh come on stop that”. She was gone. I knew right there, she f~~~ed someone else while she was out of town for a few weeks.. And I was right.

JUST like a lightbulb that way. You can’t fix it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

Do we have #3 in here with us perhaps? Sounds like he would fit right in…
Like I told my ex gf a while before I broke up; “If I ever leave you it would not be for another girl but rather to get solitude”. Freedom is bigger than sex.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

We sure have, brother…

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[MemberParticipant 323]

Marry someone with a personality disorder……..every other month (or sometimes every other week) they threaten to end the marriage or accuse YOU of trying to end the marriage over something trivial. It hurts bad the first time but less and less as time goes on. Just as quickly as they try to vacate you from their lives they come swooping back in to tell you they love you again and the cycle repeats. There are so many moments like that you feel that’s its over and they hit the reset button like nothing happened. Puts your whole life in a constant state of turmoil waiting for the next outburst. Somewhat easy to get away from unless you have kids. Then you are truly screwed because to see your kids you have to deal with them over and over never knowing what you will get next.

[I_Walk_AloneParticipant 580]

Scandinavian wrote:

Do we have #3 in here with us perhaps? Sounds like he would fit right in…Like I told my ex gf a while before I broke up; “If I ever leave you it would not be for another girl but rather to get solitude”. Freedom is bigger than sex.

“Have you got someone else?”

“Yeah. Me.”

[NeoSe7enParticipant 112]

I would be #1 and #10. Yes, I attended a couples/marriage councilor BY MYSELF (slight red flag–gee wiz..). Never attended, never asked, zero interest I finally realized it was a losing battle..
Not worth it, guys.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

I_Walk_Alone wrote:

Freedom is bigger than sex.
“Have you got someone else?”

“Yeah. Me.”

Great summary of MGTOW, thanks guys.

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

4. & 10.

That’s pretty much My story as well. After My Wife cheated, I was an idiot and took Her back for a short while, however this nagging thought (which I later am glad I followed), told me she was still cheating, I couldn’t kick this thought, day in and day out, could not get it out of My Head:

“she’s still cheating, she’ll still cheating, she’ll still cheating”.

all day every f~~~ing day for weeks. despite the verbal and physical abuse She did to me, I did take her back for a short period. Then I went with My Gut and was able to hack Her Email and Phone (thanks to a buddy of mine) and found sexual photographs of her and her lover, as well as a sex tape of them both(after she said she left him and wanted to start fresh with me)….Yeah, that’s when I knew it was officially over.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

[DrAK74Participant 77]

number three and ten. I saw my marriage explode the moment I demanded to see our financials and she balked. Like a bolt of lightning I knew she was being sneaky, most likely giving money to the hobo that would replace me next door. I know then that she no longer wanted me around because she revealed her true nature, a sneaking, lying, manipulative creature who was keeping me around for resources only…..not love, not commitment, just because she wanted a cash machine…..I was gone less than a day later, and I’ve never been happier!

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I was stupid twice.

The first time I knew it was over when she asked me to leave. I knew that I had been released from my marriage vows made in love before me, my family and god. I gave her 2 weeks to cool down and think about it. She spent the two weeks laughing and mocking me with how happy she would be.

The night I left she stayed away. I packed the car alone with my clothes and books and moved.

I never looked back. I was released from a hellish marriage with constant fighting to a woman with severe clinical depression that I would have stayed with till death because that was the vow I made.

She begged me to come back for 3 years until I remarried.

The second time we were very happy until my son was born then a terrible psychotic post partum depression gripped her. Within 6 months she began to think that I was the cause and started to make plans to leave me.

This time I was far more wise and saw the signs.

One of the final signs was that she wanted to go to marriage counseling. I had been to such counseling with my first wife and knew it to be the last stop before divorce.

Soon after that I went to work, she kissed me good by and I came home to an empty house. She ran with our son to her fathers house 7 hours away.

Since I knew it was coming any day I was prepared and called my attorney, the one from my first divorce immediately. Due to her severe post partum depression she couldn’t care for our son. I took her to court ex-parte (emergency) and her attorney screwed up and said that while she couldn’t care for our child she would hire a nanny that could so she should get custody.

The judge laughed her attorney out of court and I raised my son alone from 9 months till 36 months when she got better. Then, with my whole hearted agreement we shared custody 50/50.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

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