The Greatest Story Never Told

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

The real deal with all of this for me is that it was in the past and should not be used to justify bulls~~~ in the present.

The real deal with all of this for me is that it was in the past, and the darkest period in human history should always be remembered lest it repeats itself.

WORST thing we can do is develop a case of amnesia and pretend “it never happened”.

My mother will tell you that Germans all blindly believed Hitler would win the war. Not winning was “unthinkable”. Even at the end. It wasn’t until 1948 that the truth started coming out and everyone started to hear about what REALLY happened. Even in 1946 after the war as over, there were RUMORS but nobody really knew…. and they were too preoccupied with where their next meal would come from.

To this day – and Im not kidding – when my mother sits down for a cup of tea, she looks around, takes a second and says “ACH! Haben wir es gut”. ( Boy, do we ever have it good )

When was the last time you heard a modern woman say that before a meal??

On Easter Sunday a few years ago, I cooked my mom a very nice dinner. She actually cried and told me about an Easter Sunday when she was a little girl, which was THE ONLY TIME she ever saw my Grandfather cry. He wasn’t even able to feed his family.

All they had in the house, was the salt in the salt shaker.

Before anyone starts to feud and bicker over whether or not WWII actually happened or exactly how many Jews died…. I would just thank my personal god that I can skip down the street and buy myself a bun for 20 cents.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

Keymaster wrote:

Before anyone starts to feud and bicker over whether or not WWII actually happened or exactly how many Jews died…. I would just thank my personal god that I can skip down the street and buy myself a bun for 20 cents.

Obviously WW2 happened- I wasn’t implying that it didnt. I have no doubt millions of people were tortured and killed on both sides.

It just seems there are many alternative historians that describe the jewish numbers as being greatly exaggerated relative to everyone else- such as your family Keymaster… No one but the jews seem to get any recognition- which in my opinion is the real injustice.

Sorry for bringing up such a divisive issue. I really wasn’t trying to debate WW2. I was more interested in the Zionist influence and why the Germans and many other countries dislike them so much. They have a history of destabilizing family and encouraging communism, feminism, etc. That’s the MGTOW-relevant part…

The rest is better saved for a WW2 forum lol.

Now I’m getting the f~~~ outta here before this thread turns into a f~~~-all. Like Keymaster says- We should all be grateful we can call up a hooker on backpage for $60… err something like that…

-Sovereign out

Not my property... Not my problem

[Anonymous 24]

Keymaster wrote:

Before anyone starts to feud and bicker over whether or not WWII actually happened or exactly how many Jews died…. I would just thank my personal god that I can skip down the street and buy myself a bun for 20 cents.

I think maybe you misread something, nobody said WW2 didn’t happen. And nobody is trying to say exactly how many Jews died. I won’t speak for others, but once again, I do not believe the “official” numbers, that’s all, should I be put in jail for this?

And once again, I care not to focus on all of the injustices of WW2, it is in the past, what I can do however is spotlight modern injustices, and in the West U.S./Israel is at the heart of them. Most chose to keep looking the other way though.

[Anonymous 24]

Keymaster wrote:

The real deal with all of this for me is that it was in the past, and the darkest period in human history should always be remembered lest it repeats itself.

It is repeating itself. Israel is doing it to Palestinians, and have been for a long time. And the U.S. has been laying waste to countries for dubious reasons at best.

Christians, Jews, and Palestinians giving you the story that is never told of the Israel/Palestine conflict.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Was only my intention to lend a little perspective which we all need from time to time. I worry, concern myself and focus on the wrong things sometimes, letting the wrong things bother me…… and all I need to do is remind myself of my Grandfather and the real hardships of those before me. We could all afford to do that more often. Peace, out, brothers.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

Sovereign writes: That’s a lot of smoke for them not to be creating fires.

The truth of the matter is, successful groups are often expelled from countries. Robert Mugabe chased out the white farmers from Zimbabwe to score political points, but it certainly didn’t help agriculture there.

The Romans (‘Pagans’) persecuted the Christians, until the Emperor decided it was politically advantageous to have a Christian Empire. Then the pagans were the ones persecuted by the Christians. Eventually, I suspect the secular States will persecute religious individuals; that certainly DID happen in the Soviet Union.

Sovereign: I guess my main point is, a lot of people were killed in German concentration camps — certainly many Jews, Roma, political prisoners, etc. Exact numbers will never be known. But the ESTIMATES by reputable academics are in a pretty narrow range, e.g. 4.9 to 5.8 MM Jews, for instance. The idea of ‘deniers’ is that it was NO Jews, or some insignificant number. The idea that these camps didn’t exist or kill lots of innocent people, is ludicrous based upon the facts. The history should be taught in a more balanced fashion, looking at total war dead from various countries and various groups, and in a wider context of persecutions throughout recorded history.

Religious tolerance has waxed and waned. The Catholic Church was largely responsible for the persecution of the Jews in Europe over the centuries. Since Catholicism dominated Europe, that is why they were persecuted in many countries. The reason why Jews entered banking is because HISTORICALLY (I realize, not TODAY), usury or charging interest, was not permitted in Christendom (Christian Europe); only JEWS could lend money charging interest. When loans came due, and Jews took people’s homes or property, they weren’t very popular… And so yet another reason to demonize them. All this moneylending actually served a vital purpose for economic growth.

But persecution of Jews in hardly unique. Look at the hundreds of thousands killed when India was partitioned in the late 1940’s; that conflict was between Hindus and Muslims. So massive religious persecution is nothing new. Especially religious minorities.

The harsh WWI reparations on Germany made for a weak Weimar Republic; it virtually set the stage for a tyrant like Hitler to come to power. The Depression created an economic climate where the citizens wanted an authoritarian government. Add Chamberlain’s Appeasement — the West was somewhat responsible for his rise to power.

Blaming Jews for deficit spending and fiat currency is ridiculous; debasing currency goes back to and even before the Roman Empire. The Jews then, were a conquered minority at this time.

Did the so-called Jewish bankers cause Japan to have a huge budget deficit?

Furthermore, the idea that all powerful or influential Jews are in some kind of alignment or cabal FOR fiat currency, is simply FALSE.

The former CHAIR of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, JEW, is an ADVOCATE of the Gold Standard, who predicts US HYPERINFLATION due to unsustainable entitlements. In his youth, he used to pal around with AYN RAND. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-27/greenspan-warns-crisis-imminent-he-urges-return-gold-standard Surely, a rather ironic statement considering his former role of the Fed Chairman recommending expanding or tightening the ‘money supply’.

But, ‘The Rothschilds’ and ‘Zionists’ haven’t shot him dead for getting out of line. In contrast, in the Middle Ages, the ‘reason’ to persecute Jews was that they killed Christian babies and drank their blood. I’m not making this s~~~ up.

[Anonymous 24]

Keymaster wrote:

Was only my intention to lend a little perspective which we all need from time to time. I worry, concern myself and focus on the wrong things sometimes, letting the wrong things bother me…… and all I need to do is remind myself of my Grandfather and the real hardships of those before me. We could all afford to do that more often. Peace, out, brothers.

I completely understand. I would be very defensive of this site descending into some sort of Holocaust denial website and would put my foot down upon that instantly. Though I do feel the numbers may be in question, and certainly putting someone in jail for wanting to talk about it and or investigate it is a joke. And really it does not even interest me, what interests me is attesting to modern day injustice in hope that less will suffer in the here and now.

[Anonymous 24]

And Frankone, I always half despise, half love your posts because you know so f~~~ing much, it is like a tough teacher that gives you TONS of homework, yet you still admire him. Half the s~~~ you post I know all about then the other half is just homework…Really what I am lacking in is WW2 knowledge. I spend way to much time on Israel/Palestine and the Mid East.

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[Anonymous 24]

I just started watching that documentary The Greatest Story Never Told…

Seems to be a propaganda film, kinda creepy, and even if I sat through the whole 6 hours, there is no way they are going to convince me there was a good reason to try to take the f~~~ing world.

It is weird though on IMBD it has a high rating and it seems split down the middle. Those on the positive side say there are a lot of facts in there, I just refuse to think that anything in there can justify what Hitler did so I did not get past the first 10 minutes or so.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

This is a complex subject, so let’s simplify it as much as possible: Jewish bankers could not do what they are doing without their Christian politician partners. Gangs often work together for mutual interest. Also, many banks are owned by non-jews (although, not the Fed).

Here’s another interesting bit to follow up on… the Vatican is a bank. Chew on that one for a while. The rabbit hole is deep. To those in power, those without power will always be expendable. That’s the way the game is setup, unfortunately.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

If there are no Jewish bankers and Zionist, there will be Chinese Communist Master, if there are no Chinese Communist, there will be Black Slave master selling their own kind into slavery, or White Fascism, or Hispanic Mafia.

Whomever in power will eventually be corrupt, no matter the race or religion.

What we need is smaller government and people to be actually responsible for themselves.

Why we need the government as the middle man for healthcare? We already see how Obamacare goes. How people in the past survive without government poking their nose in healthcare? They buy their own insurance. If insurance goes too costly? They try to stay healthy and make their own insurance by saving up their own money. They learn herbs and some knowledge on medicine so they can avoid giving money to doctors for minor sickness. If their saving is too little for the medical fees, they go around their communities for donation asking humbly instead feeling entitled to welfare. They take a loan to pay their medical bills. All without the government noses.

Why we need government as the middle man for education? Don’t you see how education brainwash and ruined mens from schools to college? And they will be debt slaves for college fees indoctrinated with social / gender studies.
How people in the past survive without government poking their noses in education? They self study, be an apprentice, pay for their own education. There are always private schools, and there are courses. In the end companies wanted people who can work.

Do we really need government as the middle man for infrastructure? In the past villagers combine their efforts to build bridges and clear roads instead of handling over their money to the government to build it for them. We can now choose how to spend out money, pooling it together to hire a private company to build roads if needed. We see in countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, the Chinese have no support from the government hence they pool their money to build schools for their communities. The government is pulling money from everyone to develop certain location.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[KillmandrillParticipant 497]

The Holocaust is real, no doubt. Why there are any discrepancies about how many people were killed, I wonder? The killing of the nazis, of jews, political opponents, unwanted ethnics, POWs, gays, and handicapped people be it mentally or physically or just unwanted people, was the best documented mass murders in history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

Everone killed in the concentration/extermination camps was documented, maybe there was data missing or has been destroyed before Germany has been defeated, hence the discrepancies?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

My grandmother, her sisters, my mother, my uncles, and other relatives lived in Silesia as ethnic Germans and had to flea the Russians that bombed their house and lost their tavern that was built next to a brickyard that had a large stack and was seen from far away and was often attacked by Russian planes.
I used to listen a lot to the stories my grandmother and my mother (she was 4 at end of WW2) told me, how and where they were living, about how they starved during and after their flight to Bavaria and so on. My grandfather was a Russian POW and I never have met him, since he never returned home to my grandmother and the stories I heard about him weren´t pleasant either, but I still would have liked to talk with him about what he has experienced.
I talked to other old men that have been in the war instead and listened to their stories.
I´m happy that I at least got some first hand informations about the war, so I don´t doubt what happened back then and horrible it was.
Most of the men here we´re fighting in the war or had another part in the Nazi machinery, the women were busy to feed the kids and keep their household running, which was a different story than today, my grandmother had to wash the clothes in the river, and work for farmers in exchange for food or the family would starve.
The concentration camps were kept secret from the public as good as it goes, I asked my grandmother if she knew what has happened, she did not know about it. Back then people where she lived had other worries or were distracted or occupied by the Nazi regime. All the camps were sort of erected in remote areas, so not much people recognized their existence or knew of what was happening there, but some must have known, but possibly kept their mouths shut not to end in the same camp.
It was just different times that most people nowadays can´t imagine anymore in it´s full magnitude.

We should never forget this part of history, to keep it from repeating… yet it does somehow.

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

Too much information/misinformation available today. Trying to figure out exact numbers or trying to find tangible evidence showing that Jews run the world is like trying to explain why a woman is insane by nature.

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

Mudwhistle: Pogroms against the Jews go back at least 700 years. Hell, the Jews were even blamed for the Black Plague. Did the supposed Jewish Masters orchestrate all these pogroms and the Jewish Holocaust against themselves, or did they only ascend to World Domination AFTER WWII wherein approximately 3/4 of the Jews in Nazi Europe had been exterminated? Think about that. It doesn’t make any sense.

Do the remaining ones become more powerful after you kill most of them, like in Highlander? OOPS, I shouldn’t have said that, now it will end up as the theme of some internet conspiracy theory and cross-linked to the Flat Earth Society.

Kilmandrill: Unfortunately, the history keeps repeating. The Nazi genocides (I say genocides, because it included Roma, homosexuals, and MANY other groups) were not the first genocides, nor the last.

I will say that most other genocides don’t get much attention — even more recent ones. I was good friends in college with a Cambodian, and he would tell me about the bloody Khmer Rouge. It killed off about a fourth of Cambodians in the 1970’s. Most people have never heard of it. Or the massive planned famines caused by Stalin in the Ukraine in the 1930’s.

Then there was the Rwandan genocide in the 90’s, with hundreds of thousands dead. And currently, the Yazidi genocide being executed by ISIL

Some of these lesser-known genocides are ‘the worst story never told’.

Of course, believing the historical evidence of these pogroms against Jews, does NOT mean one necessarily supports foreign aid to Israel. I’m against ALL entangling alliances, and of course, that one has proved especially costly in terms of putting the terrorist ‘bullseye’ on our foreheads and dragging us into multiple mideast wars. Incidentally, these (Iraq+Afghanistan) wars actually killed many, many times the entire number killed in both Intifadas on both sides.

Gnostic writes: What we need is smaller government and people to be actually responsible for themselves.

Yes, and as government has played an increasing role in some of these sectors, such as higher education, it has actually SKYROCKETED costs. I believe the public benefits from lower costs, when there is more competition. More competition means more hospitals, fewer rules and regulations, many of which are specifically designed to promote oligarchies and monopolies.

[UnicronParticipant 752]

The first couple of minutes of this video has some interesting info.

(Be warned though that it turns into Tradcon near the end)

Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

[KillmandrillParticipant 497]

FrankOne wrote:

Then there was the Rwandan genocide in the 90’s, with hundreds of thousands dead.

Just seen a documentary on this, the footage shown was pretty rough.
The Algerian war is another example that was mostly hidden to the public, lots of mass burials with corpses that have shown traces of torture.

As for Hitler I can´t listen to him for long, he was full blown drug addict with serious mental issues, he fed exactly those he was complaining about in the video above, BASF (then IG Farben), Krupp, Adler, Opel, Mercedes, AEG, IBM, Siemens and so on, all got their share and especially the banks backing them. But the folks did like his enthusiatic speeches and that he got all the jobless back to work, in killing others at the end. The only winner in a war are the banks.

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

DorkShit wrote:

It’s to bad that my grandfather is not alive. He fought in WWII. He was in the US army during the Normandy invasion and fought all the way to Berlin.

When I was young, I listened as he spoke about coming upon the concentration camps.

I listened to my grandfather. You watch something and pretend to know everything about something you know nothing about.

You were not there. All I know is I knew someone who was. What he knew is far different than your truth.

He saw what what he saw; and I don’t dispute what he saw and believe him. Many GI accounts and reports saw people starving and in bad shape.

However, I’m no fool easy to manipulate or sucker either. This was because Germany was losing and supplies were scarce. Where do you think they were going, to concentration camps or to troops on the eastern and western front?

Honest hypothetical question, do you think the Japanese internment camps would have had fed their prisoners well if America was basically routed for months on end? Probably not. And if Japan won the war do you think it would have been any different than what is said now of Hitler and the Jews?

Go see Schindler’s list, they are sending the workers to factories to work on the war effort (which many are sabotaging) now go see Memphis Belle. What exactly is the bomber attacking? Factories or German troops?

If you believe both of those movies, obviously Memphis Belle was bombing the he hell out of what was Jews in factories if we are to believe the basic concepts of those movies.

I don’t get involved with 9/11 was an inside job, or Holocaust denial. I don’t care about that, but I love history like any red blooded American who loves to hear WW2 stories. And critically thinking, it is obvious both events are used to shoe in bad American policies such as a police state and Israeli-first/f~~~-America foreign policy. So there IS something fishy going on even at face value without looking into details.

oh disclaimer, didn’t see the video, i’ve heard about it being in the chan subculture. Kind how people know about stormfront and the adl but never go there.

[UnicronParticipant 752]

The great thing about the internet is that you no longer have to rely on the official narrative for information.

Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

WWI was a moment in time. Should I obsess on the black and red ant colonies that had a big battle in my yard two decades ago? Or should I understand the principle of how nature works on this planet?

What happened in history is not as important as the takeaway, that is, that the history is always repeating itself. If you understand the law, that is, that those in power will never let go of power, then it doesn’t really matter what group it is. I have been to churches where it is constantly preached that the congregants should die for Christ, even if it means starving in some African village to spread the word of Jesus. Rhaegar Thorwald, the Church is sending our young beautiful white Christian boys and girls to Tanzania to make money for corporations, calling it “mission”, and making the young white children even PAY for the trip!

But actually, every church has a wall of pictures of black kids from Tanzania. Why just that one country? And tomorrow, some other country, but always consistent across all Christian denominations and all national borders? Because “The Christians” are making mad money off rare earth minerals in Tanzania, etc… Boer wars, whatever, etc… Providing water to Africa (read: SELLING water, or stealing U.S. tax dollars for it, calling it “humanitarian”), etc… Africa is a gold mine of resources.

“The Christians” could care f~~~-all about who among their own ranks dies in Africa or Asia. They want the indigenous people there to know English so the indigenous people can work for the Christian corporations making money.

So, you can’t say “The Jews” run the world anymore than you can say “The Christians” are raping Africa for money and destroying their own white race to do it. The people who are running the Fed are Jews, and the people who are raping Africa are Christians. But the lower ranks in either category are just as clueless as anyone.

So it’s really a class thing, not a race or culture thing. You will find the upper class across all races and nations the same, the middle class the same, and the lower class the same. It is as 1984 describes: the upper classes of the races and nations work together to enslave the lower classes of their own races and nations. It is a complex problem.

The question is, what are you going to do about it?

[UnicronParticipant 752]

Sandals wrote:

The question is, what are you going to do about it?

Nothing, I’m going let nature take its course. The way forward is Darwinism, It has been a dirty word for too long, Self-preservation is a man’s only duty.

Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred.

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