The gift of MGTOW

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  • #339267
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    Anonymous
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    If only!
    That was the younger me.
    I’m divorced and having pay the mortgage, plus my own rent plus debts while she works part time as a result of drink and drug problem. And I have to fight to see my sons. Read my intro. The only reason I’m not entirely homeless is because my brother was good enough to buy a small place for me to rent. My credit rating is dead and always will be thanks to her spending

    That is my point. If this does not immunize a man against women, than what does?

    Young guys are slaves to the instincts, like bulls walking into the slaughter-house after the cows. And they will be slaughtered. Their soul, their happiness, their honor, their sense of worth. Everything will be delivered to the alter of feminility like a bloody human sacrifice.

    And for what? What is it that we gain?

    I only gained the knowledge that I now have.

    Sparticus66, I really like your avatar picture. The Spitfire is one of the most iconic aircraft’s in history.

    #339277
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    Anonymous
    3

    Without disrespecting your opinion and your point of view…abandoning women from our lives isn’t the solution.At least for me.

    There is no need to be that careful. This is not any site, this is MGTOW! You can very well say your true opinion and call s~~~ where you see it!

    My take is that you cannot abandon women, unless you go to live in a desert island or a all-male monastery (if any exist anymore). You have to deal with mothers and daughters and coworkers and waitress and every other kind of women that populates society.

    But let one of those into your life? I leave it to the uninitiated, to the poor fools that ignore the perils they are walking into.

    Having the ability to understand women( ok…partially understand ), how they think and how they react without us getting each time emotianally devastated and frustrated is the key to success.

    Beeing the master who pulls the strings of the puppets.

    Who is the master, the one biologically inclined, raised and trained, socially prepared to manipulate you, or you that read some sites and books?

    Let me put this in another way:

    Master

    Pokemon

    #339293
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    If only!
    That was the younger me.
    I’m divorced and having pay the mortgage, plus my own rent plus debts while she works part time as a result of drink and drug problem. And I have to fight to see my sons. Read my intro. The only reason I’m not entirely homeless is because my brother was good enough to buy a small place for me to rent. My credit rating is dead and always will be thanks to her spending

    And now this is your story that serves as a warning to young men not to make the same mistakes.

    In the days before the internet women had an easy time f~~~ing men over in a divorce. They just told their entire hive that “he is a loser” and his side of the story would not make in the local gossip news. He would even get more pressure from the outside world.

    Because women are the prime gossip communicators. They have maximum control over the bulls~~~ that “is said” around the city. Men with problems couldn’t get any help because everybody was polarized by his woman.

    But now the internet has come along and it finally busts their corrupt way of “local mass manipulation”. Men can now say: “See I’m not the only one YOU are trying to publicly turn into a loser, better watch your step, people don’t believe you anymore…”

    Sharing our stories with other men will make us all stronger.

    And the hamster lurkers will also see that “their victim” is not alone anymore. And that HER story, her yelling and her bad behavior might end up on Youtube. Then it’s the end of the stress free dating game for cupcake.

    Local women that had f~~~ed over their husbands in a bloody divorce sometimes couldn’t get a new man because her reputation was shot.

    I was often hit on by “divorced” women that were looking for a new wallet. And just knowing that she lives from alimony was so “non erotic” to me that I never pursued any of them. I scared them away. Even if there was pressure in my b~~~~ and even if I found them attractive.

    I don’t sleep with the enemy.

    I said to them things like: “The right hand rule does not only apply to the magnetic field”…

    Better if women think that you are a fool and leave you alone than if they try to catch your attention by making you the center of her gossip.

    Anyway, MGTOW will change all that.

    For me is was now the confirmation that I was doing the right thing in all these years and that improves my mood even further.

    Every thought that I found “controversial” and kept to myself is now “open source”. And I like that.

    Because of this MGTOW forum I now get the answers that I were missing.

    The fact that women cannot love was felt inside of me for over 45 years. But now I have confirmation that my feelings were true.

    I am absolutely sure that our knowledge is beneficial to all males on this planet.

    We are the “Service Manual” for all men that need to know the traps of life.

    You tell a young boy not to put his hand on the oven and you should also tell him to learn how to deal with gold diggers, because that is what all women are.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #339302
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    Fermat
    Fermat
    Participant
    3478

    OK, so what do you suggest ?
    Living as monks ?

    I’m in monk mode and never going back. The plantation does not miss me, and I do not miss them.

    I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

    #339314
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    Anonymous
    3

    I would be very happy to share my life with a woman,as long as it lasts,but having the maturity and the knowledge to say, everytime something gets wrong, “don’t be upset, don’t feel angry…thats the nature of women…close the chapter and move on”

    There is the expression “pump and dump” for a reason. MGTOW that chose to continue to have sex do not share a life, then only have sex and proceed to “dump” at the slightest hint of anything else.

    Women do not “share”, they get under your skin to “own” you.
    In the field of emotional manipulation men are like a small innocent child (like my second picture), while women are the masters (my first picture).
    A man needs to be born with a gift for manipulation, learn a lot of strategies with like minded professionals, and be somewhat of a sociopath to play in the same level. Because ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT.

    Take care my friend, it is not normal fire you play with.

    #339345
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    Anonymous
    0

    Thanks to God and Allah for creating cats!

    Made me laugh. Thanx Gargamel.
    Here is a real life example of “Monk Mode”
    My stats from a year ago were blood pressure (142/95), cholesterol (+12 on good day), and blood sugar (14.3)
    I started trying to be “Monk” eleven months ago.
    Visited my doctor for bi-annual checkup and guess what
    BP = 118/78, cholesterol = 6.9, and sugar between 7 and eight.
    I attribute some of the improvement to drugs and some to exercise but overall improvement to staying away from women.
    And yes, I still have to interact with women in my family and those in everyday life but I don’t have to buy into their manipulative and hypergamous ways. You young guys have a harder time with not having sex but remember it is just a small part of who you are. Do not neglect your self or submerge yourself in her, thereby losing your identity. That what she wants. It is her nature.

    #339349
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    Anonymous
    0

    OK, so what do you suggest ?
    Living as monks ?

    I’m in monk mode and never going back. The plantation does not miss me, and I do not miss them.

    Well said, Fermat.
    As for the occasional loneliness; that’s what scotch is for.

    #339366
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Here is another MGTOW blessing:

    The busting of the myth that you can risk marriage to a wealthy woman:

    I wrote that post in a topic that deals with Mariah Carey wanting a “settlement” with her billionaire “ex”
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    In my over 18 years out in sales and service, I have observed the following:

    Even if you marry a woman with money, her dreams will always be bigger than her income.

    Even if she makes 100 k a year, then she will spend 130 k. And you have to put in these 30 k from your income.

    I have seen so many double earners in high positions that were in debt so deep that it scared me.
    And I could always see where the spending went. The TV set and the antenna were only on the cheap end of things.

    These places looked like showrooms and I had to be very careful not to tip something over or make any scratches.

    And sometimes I would see the man sitting on his 25 k sofa and taking deep breaths when I said that the new LNB required for the whole house system will cost 200 Euros including mounting and measuring…

    These people sometimes were so “on the edge” in debt that I never envied them. Their big Audis and S-Class Mercedes’es rather rolled on debt than on wheels.

    I saw what a disgrace a 6-figure high income wife can be.

    For anything that she makes, she will spend more and you’ll end up in debt.

    Sometimes – years later I would drive past that house and see it all dark. And a sign on the door “for sale”…
    Or I would see 2 different cars with different license plates in front of that house, meaning that the house was sold.
    Then I was expecting a call “Can you tell us how we can watch TV here…?”

    Some expensive houses were real marriage killers.

    Everybody had tried to live there and “afford” it – and then they broke up.

    Here is what it all comes down to:

    Now you don’t need to wonder why women will not take a man that makes less than they do.

    That is what statistics say.

    They always leech off of a man. That seems to be their basic instinct. And if they can’t leech, then they will not want that man.

    Not for marriage and not for any relationship.

    For us men not even a good earner woman will be attractive. Because that will change the moment you put a ring on her.

    Or the moment you have been living with her for too long.

    Her pay goes down and her dreams go up. And then even a 7-figure income will be gone to the last penny.

    That is why ultra-rich people have the same problems than we do.

    Women are never satisfied. And they are not strong either. They need all that materialistic crap to cover their weaknesses.

    Strong means: “Bullying”

    Independent means: “High expectations and high maintenance…”

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #339374
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    I attribute some of the improvement to drugs and some to exercise but overall improvement to staying away from women.
    And yes, I still have to interact with women in my family and those in everyday life but I don’t have to buy into their manipulative and hypergamous ways. You young guys have a harder time with not having sex but remember it is just a small part of who you are. Do not neglect your self or submerge yourself in her, thereby losing your identity. That what she wants. It is her nature.

    Every word of yours is gold. Women mess up your hormone system in a negative way until everything gets out of line.

    And I don’t mean the hormones that do their dance when you fall in love.

    With their nagging and bitching they drive up your adrenaline and then the body starts to burn calories for nothing.
    And you have that feeling of exhaustion after a woman encounter…

    Ever notice that after a conflict you become hungry? No matter how much you had eaten before.

    Why do people in dysfunctional families get fat easier?

    Continuous “overstimulation” of the brain can also have toxic effects on your brain function.

    And then, everything gets out of line. Same as in a chemical poisoning.

    Chronic stress induced by women make all of your body chemicals take a roller-coaster ride. And this will hurt your brain.

    Mechanically and irreversibly.

    And you get your MGTOW relief by seeing that these monsters are now having cats to terrorize.

    We are finally free.

    “Women jail” time is up.

    Cats for the “household dragons”

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #339380
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    FrostByte
    FrostByte
    Participant
    19005

    Don’t mix up marriage with plain relationships.
    2 different things.
    I’m talking only about relationships.

    It’s up to you find the place where you can be the most comfortable with the least amount of risk. MGTOW means your way, and no one here can tell you what that is. I socialize with woman all the time, but I always go home alone, sleep alone and live alone. On occasion I get laid when I feel the safety factor is high enough, but that is about 5% of actual opportunities I have to get laid. I say no a lot and I don’t keep any single woman in the friend zone, because that is where the danger is. They always want to move closer and get angry when they can’t, so I ghost those girls. It’s all about management. How well you manage yourself and them. If you can’t manage and you cave easily to pressure then ghost is your best option.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

    #339381
    +1

    Anonymous
    11

    Without disrespecting your opinion and your point of view…abandoning women from our lives isn’t the solution.At least for me.

    Having the ability to understand women( ok…partially understand ? ), how they think and how they react without us getting each time emotianally devastated and frustrated is the key to success.

    Beeing the master who pulls the strings of the puppets.

    I would be very happy to share my life with a woman,as long as it lasts,but having the maturity and the knowledge to say, everytime something gets wrong, “don’t be upset, don’t feel angry…thats the nature of women…close the chapter and move on”

    You cant blame fire for burning your hand.
    You know it will if you touch it.
    But if you’re wise you can cook with it, warm up ,light and so on.

    (Hope I listen to what I say ? ? ? )

    I think your user-name and avatar are the only things preventing men from drawing down on you.

    #339383
    +5
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Take care my friend, it is not normal fire you play with.

    Women have everything in common with nuclear accidents:

    You have to cool them with your money 24/7 or risk a meltdown.

    Once they meltdown, the contamination will f~~~ up your life and health forever.

    They leave fallout. You become the outcast and loser of the town.

    Women sparkle and shine, so does Cesium 137…

    You don’t see or feel the radiation but it kills you.

    Yes, it is not normal fire you are playing with.

    The spectators on that bridge in Prypjat who watched the Chernobyl reactor core burn directly died a few days later.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #339607
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    Anonymous
    3

    after all I’ve done’.

    Briffault’s law is the answer.

    #339720
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    Faxmodem
    Faxmodem
    Participant
    1415

    The gift of MGTOW is FREEDOM from the BS of Women. Its the gift that keeps on giving to freedom of men.

    Us men didn't start the battle of the sexes, but we're clearly going to win it via the simple tactic of just leaving the battlefield in contempt."

    #339737
    +1
    Varun
    Varun
    Participant
    2981

    Any relationship with a woman is hazardous in so many ways. Especially these days with women having the ability to go get knocked up and get a guy on the hook for child support for kids that aren’t even his. There is simply no upside to a relationship with women – none whatsoever. You are looking at a life consumed with having to put up with her various neuroses, and society as a whole will expect you to sacrifice your own happiness to keep her happy.

    Just think about that, your freedom, your happiness – who the f~~~ cares, your just a guy – man up and make this woman happy or else you are not a man. A woman would never accept that, well then why should any man accept it?

    I often tell younger men that we all have one life to live. Make it a life that is more than just getting laid. Sex is not the be all and end all of life. It isn’t the only reason to live a life and I will wager that anyone who lives his/her life to get laid is a f~~~ing waste of good oxygen.

    OK, so what do you suggest ?
    Living as monks ?
    (No irony,keyborads just can’t show expression)

    I think that abandoning women should be an option that isn’t shamed or laughed upon.

    Yeah, many people might no subscribe to it, but it should always be an option.

    The gynocentric world never made us believe that we can live Without women. I beg to differ.

    Yeah, it would be a hard time to live without sex, I know….depression….shorter lifespan…blah blah whatever they keep on saying.

    Bu in comparison, the risks involved with relating to women far outweighs these shortcomings.

    So what if I’ll live fifteen years shorter? At least I’ll be more happier this way.

    Challenging stuff has always been a passion for strong men.
    What’s a better challenge than to challenge one’s own natural instincts to mate and provide?

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

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