The gift of MGTOW

[Sparticus66Participant 508]

I was thinking this morning about times I had my heart broken by women in my late teens and early twenties. One question that kept hammering through my head was ‘how can she behave like that after all I’ve done’.
I have previously cursed the Internet but now realise that every young man that is f~~~ed over will now have a chance of finding his way to this site. It will save lives. One reason male suicide massively out numbers those of the female is not because they are more mentally ill. It’s because only men can be put through the s~~~ show of double standard mind – f~~~ery that women dish out. I see it as the duty of us older men (I’m 50 now) to be here for the young ones when they arrive beaten up. This place can restore their dignity and save their lives.

[Anonymous 1]

Because women live in the moment, give them affection and support for 5 years, they will not evaluate it, they live in the present time, either they need something from you or don’t. “But I did this and this for you” and they will answer “so what?”.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

MGTOW is the enlightening realization that cats must now take our place.

And cats can put up with their s~~~.

We are no longer obligated to crawl up women’s asses with favors and resources.

They have their cats now.

So we are free it be happy.

Thanks to God and Allah for creating cats!

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[SuperBeeParticipant 65]

Personally I don’t think we can fight our nature and live
without women at all, neither using them as sexual objects only.
(at least the straight of us…lol)
MGTOW is great in teaching us (by exchanging advise,stories etc. among us)
on how to deal with the other sex in a manner not to get manipulated.
Not worship them.
Not giving heart and soul in a realtionship.
Protect our weaknesses.

Life turns on a dime

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Buller100Participant 2189]

SuperBee wrote:

Personally I don’t think we can fight our nature and live
without women at all, neither using them as sexual objects only.
(at least the straight of us…lol)
MGTOW is great in teaching us (by exchanging advise,stories etc. among us)
on how to deal with the other sex in a manner not to get manipulated.
Not worship them.
Not giving heart and soul in a realtionship.
Protect our weaknesses.

I think men can use women as sexual objects only, or even have one as a friend but not a sexual partner as a friend , I have a couple it’s quite funny to listen to their expectations of men and bulls~~~ now and then.

If a man avoids marriage and the exploitation , he is fine most guys enjoy sex etc.

Women are like exotic pets, they will bite you like a cobra but a cobra is an amazing animal…

I would never ever live full time with a women, but oil change dating or having a couple as friends , one puts me up in North of England when I visit.

Her partner has a terrible life, but that’s not my issue..

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

SuperBee wrote:

Personally I don’t think we can fight our nature and live
without women at all, neither using them as sexual objects only.
(at least the straight of us…lol)
MGTOW is great in teaching us (by exchanging advise,stories etc. among us)
on how to deal with the other sex in a manner not to get manipulated.
Not worship them.
Not giving heart and soul in a realtionship.
Protect our weaknesses.

That has been happening since the 1980’s.

In the late 70′ the divorce wave began and the suffering from men having to pay for alimony has more and more become a “known fact” in society.

Even in 7th grade in 1981, I heard male schoolboy colleagues say that marriage and family is not for them…

Back then, I was still a NAWALT believer although I had already been through hell with abusive women in my childhood.

But I saw this thing coming. Girls became ever more entitled and were expecting a dream husband, while on the hand you would see them running around with the scumbags of the school.

Yes, a few men will still mate and have children. But the other part that stays out of the game is becoming critical for the sustainability of this culture.

Feminism is always at the end of a high civilization.

And MGTOW is the only answer to that.

The mental “Ark of Noah” for the thinking man.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Buller100 wrote:

Her partner has a terrible life, but that’s not my issue..

And seeing how many women “do it like that” makes it easy to stay away from them.

She is not the only one. I’ve seen too many of these and I just made “the AWALT decision”.

And it’s so funny when women think that they are smarter than me and think I don’t notice their flirting language when they see a new “cheating prospect” and flirt with him “over my shoulder”.

They were completely embarrassed when I told them that they would make “a nice pair” and that she doesn’t need me anymore…

You go, girl…

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Gargamel wrote:

SuperBee wrote:

Personally I don’t think we can fight our nature and live
without women at all, neither using them as sexual objects only.
(at least the straight of us…lol)
MGTOW is great in teaching us (by exchanging advise,stories etc. among us)
on how to deal with the other sex in a manner not to get manipulated.
Not worship them.
Not giving heart and soul in a realtionship.
Protect our weaknesses.

That has been happening since the 1980’s.

In the late 70′ the divorce wave began and the suffering from men having to pay for alimony has more and more become a “known fact” in society.

Even in 7th grade in 1981, I heard male schoolboy colleagues say that marriage and family is not for them…

Back then, I was still a NAWALT believer although I had already been through hell with abusive women in my childhood.

But I saw this thing coming. Girls became ever more entitled and were expecting a dream husband, while on the hand you would see them running around with the scumbags of the school.

Yes, a few men will still mate and have children. But the other part that stays out of the game is becoming critical for the sustainability of this culture.

Feminism is always at the end of a high civilization.

And MGTOW is the only answer to that.

The mental “Ark of Noah” for the thinking man.

It’s true that women in power and feminisation is the fall of civilisation.

But: This process can take a long time. Centuries in fact.
In the meantime we are in for hell on earth.

Monk

[SuperBeeParticipant 65]

Don’t mix up marriage with plain relationships.
2 different things.
I’m talking only about relationships.

Life turns on a dime

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

Any relationship with a woman is hazardous in so many ways. Especially these days with women having the ability to go get knocked up and get a guy on the hook for child support for kids that aren’t even his. There is simply no upside to a relationship with women – none whatsoever. You are looking at a life consumed with having to put up with her various neuroses, and society as a whole will expect you to sacrifice your own happiness to keep her happy.

Just think about that, your freedom, your happiness – who the f~~~ cares, your just a guy – man up and make this woman happy or else you are not a man. A woman would never accept that, well then why should any man accept it?

I often tell younger men that we all have one life to live. Make it a life that is more than just getting laid. Sex is not the be all and end all of life. It isn’t the only reason to live a life and I will wager that anyone who lives his/her life to get laid is a f~~~ing waste of good oxygen.

[AwakenedParticipant 35206]

Sparticus66 wrote:

I was thinking this morning about times I had my heart broken by women in my late teens and early twenties. One question that kept hammering through my head was ‘how can she behave like that after all I’ve done’.

It sucks even more for the brain washed blue pill tradcon that invested everything he had plus his whole future to start a family falsely believing he was fulfilling his role in the matrix. A broken and shattered life goes way beyond having your “heart broken by a women in my late teens or twenties”.
If this is the extent of damage that you have experienced, be grateful !!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[SuperBeeParticipant 65]

foghornleghorn wrote:

Any relationship with a woman is hazardous in so many ways. Especially these days with women having the ability to go get knocked up and get a guy on the hook for child support for kids that aren’t even his. There is simply no upside to a relationship with women – none whatsoever. You are looking at a life consumed with having to put up with her various neuroses, and society as a whole will expect you to sacrifice your own happiness to keep her happy.

Just think about that, your freedom, your happiness – who the f~~~ cares, your just a guy – man up and make this woman happy or else you are not a man. A woman would never accept that, well then why should any man accept it?

I often tell younger men that we all have one life to live. Make it a life that is more than just getting laid. Sex is not the be all and end all of life. It isn’t the only reason to live a life and I will wager that anyone who lives his/her life to get laid is a f~~~ing waste of good oxygen.

OK, so what do you suggest ?
Living as monks ?
(No irony,keyborads just can’t show expression)

Life turns on a dime

[Anonymous 3]

SuperBee wrote:

Personally I don’t think we can fight our nature and live without women at all, neither using them as sexual objects only.

Personally I think people need to live with a woman for 20 years (if she doesnt divorce rape you before) to be vaccinated against them.

Like any germ or disease, our immune system learns to fight and our body adapts.

Take my case: now I simply do not care about women, neither sexually or otherwise.

Men that needs sex from women will always be dependent on women, I grant you that. But one has to ask himself, what is it that he needs? Is it a hole to stick a dick? Then why are not fleshlights a convenient replacement?

These things are very personal, and we have to see it for ourselves. It is not something that we can tell another person and they will “click”. But I feel compelled to speak about my experience:

Men’s desire is not really sex. What we want is an emotional fulfillment, and that is why the “hole” has to come with a women attached.

Realizing what was my real need had two consequences:
First, I realized that I was feeling bad because I was not getting this emotional fulfillment. When a guy is married and does not have an emotional fulfillment from his wife, then what the hell is he married for? I guarantee you that her sex appeal droped to almost zero after this.

Second, I realized that nobody can satisfy that emotional fulfillment for you. Yes, you can get a temporary rush from a “new” women, but that will dry up really fast. The only reasonable solution is emotional self-reliance. Whenever we depend upon another one for our happiness, then we are consistently unhappy.

[Sparticus66Participant 508]

If only!
That was the younger me.
I’m divorced and having pay the mortgage, plus my own rent plus debts while she works part time as a result of drink and drug problem. And I have to fight to see my sons. Read my intro. The only reason I’m not entirely homeless is because my brother was good enough to buy a small place for me to rent. My credit rating is dead and always will be thanks to her spending

[SuperBeeParticipant 65]

Anonymous wrote:

…

Without disrespecting your opinion and your point of view…abandoning women from our lives isn’t the solution.At least for me.

Having the ability to understand women( ok…partially understand 🙂 ), how they think and how they react without us getting each time emotianally devastated and frustrated is the key to success.

Beeing the master who pulls the strings of the puppets.

I would be very happy to share my life with a woman,as long as it lasts,but having the maturity and the knowledge to say, everytime something gets wrong, “don’t be upset, don’t feel angry…thats the nature of women…close the chapter and move on”

You cant blame fire for burning your hand.
You know it will if you touch it.
But if you’re wise you can cook with it, warm up ,light and so on.

(Hope I listen to what I say 🙂 🙂 🙂 )

Life turns on a dime

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