THE DEATH OF THE PUA COMMUNITY and my take on it

[Branched offParticipant 10932]

The PUAs were selling common sense and bulls~~~. They were also suggesting a very silly life that put a great deal of energy into (sometimes) getting into the worst women’s pants. (If she will go home with a sleezy guy she just met and let him empty his b~~~~ into her she really is not worth speaking to in the first place, never mind courting.

PUAs really only gave value to the following people;
PUA gurus
Slags who get made a great deal of fuss of to “persuade” them to do a thing they actually like doing anyway (getting sexual attention from random knobs)

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22525]

Branched off wrote:

The PUAs were selling common sense and bulls~~~. They were also suggesting a very silly life that put a great deal of energy into (sometimes) getting into the worst women’s pants. (If she will go home with a sleezy guy she just met and let him empty his b~~~~ into her she really is not worth speaking to in the first place, never mind courting.
PUAs really only gave value to the following people;PUA gurusSlags who get made a great deal of fuss of to “persuade” them to do a thing they actually like doing anyway (getting sexual attention from random knobs)

Exactly right. Not only is pussy grossly overvalued, womens personalities are severely undervalued at the same time we are very critical of their persomality flaws.

What do you expect, a genuinely nice woman if she’s fukking chads she just met, or trying to secure a beta wallet for financial security? FFS everyone, wake the fukk up.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

What do you expect, a genuinely nice woman; is she’s fukking chads she just met (?) or trying to secure a beta wallet for financial security?

^Yup. Why is she being nice to me? A woman last summer invited me to her apartment which is where I went… two times last Summer I hung out with women who now I can see, they were wanting me to Chad them, not act normal as if I wanted an LTR… Both utterly ghosted me lol, no sex.

Lamentations of a confused Beta. lol

[Branched offParticipant 10932]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

womens personalities are severely undervalued at the same time we are very critical of their persomality flaws.

This is very perceptive. Pussy is overpriced and overmarketed and I think today it is sold for that fast hard sale that gouges the customer but the salesman does not care because she is fishing in a huge pool and there are always more potential customers than disgruntled ones.

However what this overvaluing and over commoditization of female sexuality actually does is undervalue women as individuals. Scary thought -an old school feminist could have written this! Mr Tinder Chad does not give a rats arse if she is pleasant, reliable, kind or intelligent, he only wants hot and easy.

Women want Mr Tinder Chad and are selling to him. By doing so they undervalue themselves which leads to cheapening themselves. The problem is the short term max immediate gain sale. And the reason for that is female nature but just as they constantly tell us to overcome our nature to become better men -which we do every day we do not rape any hot woman walking alone- so they would do well to look at their female ancestors’ ways of thought and seek to reform their inner greed for their own long term happiness.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Branched off wrote:

Women want Mr Tinder Chad and are selling to him. By doing so they undervalue themselves which leads to cheapening themselves. The problem is the short term max immediate gain sale. And the reason for that is female nature but just as they constantly tell us to overcome our nature to become better men -which we do every day we do not rape any hot woman walking alone- so they would do well to look at their female ancestors’ ways of thought and seek to reform their inner greed for their own long term happiness.

Dopamine. I quick hit of it. Had a bad day at work? Swipe right and see all the guys who will bang you. Bored? Swipe right. Got dumped? Swipe right. A quick hit of dopamine in her brain and everything feels better. She used to go shopping. Now she bangs some rando. Kidding, she goes shopping first and then bangs Chad. A quick hit of dopamine is way easier than self reflection and making yourself a better person to attract better people.

Order the good wine

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

This entire idea that the metric of success is a woman’s attention is the root problem.
If you just keep upping your MMV (My Market Value) on the criteria of what you would like to be; (hunting, cars, boats, travel, trivia, music, hobbies, health, skills and more), you will improve every day and all people you meet (bosses, friends, relatives) will notice.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[tripvanParticipant 193]

The problem with PUA culture is it’s still inherently blue pill at core.

I don’t know about you guys but PUA culture was my first peek outside of a completely blue pill existence. I was super sheltered, and whilst I knew there were guys out there doing something different it was just something to be afraid of. Whenever these types of dudes interacting with my gf just thinking about it made me hostile, scared, etc. PUA culture introduced me to the idea that I could be one of those dudes and not completely subdue my ‘passions’ felt for women – that a perspective lay out there beyond the norm – which something worthwhile to look for along a self-improvement bent.

It didn’t take too long following that path to realize a lot of it was wasted time and bulls~~~ like what’s already been mentioned in this thread. Self-confidence in a masculine red-pill mindset is the true key to be discovered. It opens a door to a treasure far greater than pussy on demand – a life worth living with yourself at the helm. Chasing women is a time-absorbing soul-destroying distraction from real life and serious PUA spending night after night out in the clubs are self-sacrificing their own valuable assets to discover the inner labial folds of these worthless creatures truly have lost things they will never get back – time, attention, and all the benefits of developing hobbies and skills as before mentioned by FrostByte. Unless they fall into an LTR with one of these succubi in which case they’ll additionally lose a lot more.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

tripvan wrote:

The problem with PUA culture is it’s still inherently blue pill at core.

Spot on, and for blue pill men interaction with women is ultimately going to cost you big time. Yes, using PUA techniques may get you more pussy than you would otherwise got, but it is also going to get you into bad situations that you would not had to encounter otherwise.

With chads women are f~~~ing them because they want to f~~~ them. They expect nothing in return and are happy to be treated like s~~~ because they know the score and it is all part of the excitement. Even if you are a Beta with the best PUA technique in the world women still know you are a Beta. This means sex is not for free, even if you think you are following all the same techniques as an Alpha you are not and ultimately there will be some price to pay for the sex.

If you are an Alpha then you are naturally an Alpha, it is not something that can be learned or faked. Women can spot an Alpha instantly and they know it is purely sex, they don’t even attempt to try and guilt you into a relationship or get you to pay for s~~~. As a Beta, even using PUA techniques at the end of the day you are only a wallet.

I fully admit to being a Beta and in real life situations I have virtually zero technique or success with women. I am however probably a good 7 out of ten looks wise and I am very good for my age in comparison to other guys my age. I had a lot of success on POF and Tinder as my real personality came across more in online chat and once I had a few women on the go I gave less and less of a s~~~. I would say I was banging 90% of these women on a first date and most of them would want to see me again.

Great you might think, but they were not treating me the same way they would treat an Alpha. For a start they would give me hassle if I cancelled on them or if they realised I was banging other women, Alphas don’t get this. But ultimately I knew the majority of these women saw me as a wallet to provide them with a better lifestyle, they thought if they landed me I could provide a way out of their current s~~~ lifestyle and provide a house, money etc.

No matter what you do, if you are a Beta you will never experience what it is like to be an alpha and have women literally chasing you for sex.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

For a start they would give me hassle if I cancelled on them or if they realised I was banging other women, Alphas don’t get this.

Because “Alphas” don’t put up with it.

Women don’t bitch at Chad because the instant they try, Chad dumps them and walks away, no fu​cks given.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

I was a pick up artist once.

Did 30 days in jail and had 80 hours of community service to do when I got out. It was nice of the judge to specify that I had a year to complete the 80 hours of community service.

But I did it all in ten days at eight hours a day. Like a boss, in my orange vest.

Picking up trash on the side of the freeway with a court community service team.

At one point it actually became art which is why I considered myself a pick up artist. I got so bored that I would pick things up in my perimeter broken down into categories first. Plastic, followed by paper then aluminum cans, then glass. Candy bar wrappers in alphabetical order. Like, Almond Joy, Kit Kat, M&Ms, Snickers then Twix.

Urine filled bottles we’re always last and into a separate bag.

That’s the only pick up artistry I have ever engaged in. During my blue pill era, I never actively picked up the kind of trash the PUA community seeks out though.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

thats the funniest comment of October dude. lmao

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

30 years ago I became single. I didn’t need the pua community to teach me to dress well. I used to go to clubs and get three phone numbers a night. Never ended up with a date. Dating sites work much better but ultimately suck.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

It’s better to be an escape artist than a pick up artist.

Success is not determined by how many women you fu​ck, but by how many women fail to fu​ck you.

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